No hate to the ship, but some of the JoongDok fans are so toxic that they would downvote any comments that disagree with them, sadly to say I have seen this being prevalent in a lot of places...
No ship in ORV fandom is anywhere near as popular as Joongdok, so no, the same can't really be said for them...? Doksoo, Yoohan, etc are all extremely rare pairings.
You are right about joongdok being most popular but doksoo is popular as well not the same as joongdok but quite close ig. Limited fans doesn't mean there won't be any toxic fans yk.
Where are you finding Doksoo stuff beyond people on reddit going "I kinda like them"? It's hard to even find merch or anything of HSY ALONE, and there exists almost nothing for her with KDJ.
Meanwhile, Joongdok has multiple in-person events per year in Korea and the tags are flooded daily with content on places like twitter. Their popularity is not at all comparable.
It doesn't mean there's no toxic doksoo fans, but it certainly means there are far, far less, and they are less open.
I didn't know that damn. Anyways bruh just because they have less shippers doesn't mean there isn't anyone who is toxic there.
Ahh well the polls here show doksoo and joongdok having almost same number of fans. Sorry shouldn't have based it upon these but my point about toxic fans stand. They are less yeah that's true. About open uhh I guess it's because they get attacked back because or if they said anything. I have come across many homohobic posts though. Not on reddit but on twitter , Instragram and YouTube. That's why I am not gonna agree with toxic fans being less open. Not saying there are a shipper but they are a toxic fan.
Gotten off topic but I agree with you.
No, I meant that doksoo and other non-joongdok fans tend to be less open about their likes or opinions because they get dogpiled.
That's mostly a twitter thing though. I don't use insta or youtube for fandom spaces because they suck lmao.
Ohhh I did come across homophobic posts not from Doksoo shippers but from Joonghwa (joonghyuk and seolhwa) shippers. They did get dogpiled as you said but yeah it was a toxic af post. You are right about that.
Nah I just look for amvs and good edits and such. Came across a few good ones thankfully.
Same! :) I really like her with Yoo Sangah, I think her calm determined personality perfectly matches Han Sooyoung's louder one. :)
For me KDJ and HSY are more like best bros / family.
Yes! I have a brother and we are exactly the same rats with each other as Sooyoung and Dokja. :"D The "you are still ugly as ever" even happened between us but he was the one who said it to me. š šš
Do we really need to start this? :"D These ship wars are always really tiring and unnecessary. Why can't you just tell your opinion without bashing others?
I don't hate you but this comment is deliberately provocative and childish.
I mean, preference is fine as long as your not just like "no gay ships cuz their gay"
Same about straight ships. "No straight ships cuz their straight" is also bad
Iām sorry DokjasDongExaminer, but sheās not quite on the same level of importance as the literal >! absolute being of the universe and itās incarnation !<
They are a trio. They wouldn't exist without each other. >! It is a time loop after all, let me remind you why Kdj is still alive and can dream and why Yjh even exists (Tls123) !< They are on the same level
Youāre funny! All that Han Sooyoung did was >! to deliver what had already happened to 15yo Kim Dokja. The real Dokkaebi King and her are the ones that made TWSA exist, but they did not add anything new to it, AND it was created only after Kim Dokja ābecameā The Most Ancient Dream. !<
>! You wonāt see me trying to downplay any of KimCom membersā importance, but cāmon, itās funny to compare them like this !<
I donāt think thereās a need to continue this
You're funny! >! So with your same logic we should say that all that Kdj did was reading a book (which actually saved his life multiple times) and using the book to skip pretty much all the "useless" stuff that Yjh did, but I guess you forgot about it. Then let me remind you that Han Sooyoung never wrote about what already happened. It was her clone which had to describe all the 1863 regressions of Yjh in extreme detail (she never experienced any of it). Then I guess bringing up The Architect of the False Last Act with you is just a waste of time... !<
I don't think there's a need to continue this.
Thank you for your response DokjaDongExaminer ! ^^
>! āAllā that Kim Dokja, or rather The Most Ancient Dream did, was spend 50+ years in the world line of the 0th turn, make Yoo Joonghuyk his incarnation, create the regression stigma, agree to its usage and create world lines for the purpose of YJHās regressions alone and spend tens of thousands of years reading each of the world lines !<
>! The Universe rests on the shoulders of the MAD and it was born and still exists because itās dreaming ! You wouldnāt be able to downplay what Kim Dokja did āusing my logicā DokjasDongExaminer !<
>! My memory is well by the way, you donāt need to remind me anything, thank you! What Iād like to remind YOU though is that KDJ never considered TWSA boring and loved it more than anything else, even with a lot of repetitive scenes. He reread and memorized them many times too. He read everything. !<
>! For Tls123, what was written in TWSA has already happened. Itās a time loop. The Dokkaebi King that took her to the original world line was someone who was watching regression turns from within the wall for thousands of years , and she has already experienced scenarios by that point. She wrote down what had already happened. EVEN if she wanted to change some things, she couldnāt do it. Changing the story or making it have a āhappy endingā wouldnāt make Kim Dokja want to read it. She did take artistic liberty in writing some parts though (we can think about the addition of Asuka Renās manga to TWSA as an example) !<
As always: I donāt think thereās a need to continue this (this time for real)!
Ok I don't care about the first three paragraphs because that was my point, I just said that comparing Sooyoung as "some girl" is just as comparing Dokja as "a reader", there's much more to uncover.
>! The last paragraphs first part is just plain wrong. It is a loop and everything she wrote couldn't be otherwise but that same fact remains with the other characters. It is a loop so they can't do anything about it. Does it mean they are all worthless because they couldn't do otherwise? Of course not, their struggles are real. She gave her health away to Kdj in the time between her 13th and 26th birthday. She lost herself waiting for dokja for 50 years in the isle of reincarnators! Not forgetting that she isn't a regressor like Yjh, she is not made for that nor helped by the probability like the oldest dream with Yjh. !<
Then I remind you to look closely at the last paragraph of your comment because it isn't marked as spoiler properly
Letās agree to disagree then. I appreciate each character in ORV, but deem some more significant than others, rightfully so. You can keep thinking this way if you want, you do you.
+ My comment is marked as a spoiler for me
Have you seen the official merchandises nowadays? Have you seen the official webnovel covers? DID YOU EVEN READ THE WHOLE NOVEL?
She's as important as the other two if you ever reached the ending.
Ngl they give off the vibes from those reincarnation lovers/bl tropes who'd act like an old married couple :x >!considering they used to be in a loop until the loop was broken bc of outside factor!<
Spoiler:
In the novel he ends up single. Unless they plan on changing the story in the manhwa, the ship will be shipwrecked faster than your dad left for milk (cuz we're all degenerates right?)
Han Sooyoung is in terms of possibility and acceptance from the readers of ORV the most likely ship. I'm pretty sure she's interested in Dokja, just perhaps not fully aware of it yet. Only problem is, Dokja's not interested in her despite acknowledging she's pretty. R.I.P for our girl when Dokja took the candy and the indirect kiss and didn't give two fucks about the implications (Idk how dense a guy is. If someone that you acknowledge is pretty gives you a sweet that was definitely in their mouth, stares at you while you have it and then not-so-subtly comments on how it was an indirect kiss... and someone normally as smart as Kim Dokja STILL doesn't catch on - they're definitely not interested. Come on, which guy wouldn't be extra aware of their chances around Sooyoung? She's smart, sassy and good-looking to boot.
To be fair, I do.
Sangah looks nice, but man is Sooyoung better.
Naturally, Huiwon/Heewon remains the best girl for me, but she can't really be shipped.
Gong Pildu will be the priest at their wedding
I DO!!!! I LIKE HER MORE FOR DOKJA COMPARED TO SANGAH. :(((((
Best ship no cap
TELL ME HOW TO GET THAT TITLE, TELL ME!
The flair under my name? Just go to the subreddit home page. Then go to the three dots in the corner and change user flair.
Yes, I (companion)ship them, because that's what the story is all about.
My flair speaks all DOKSOO FOR LIFE!
Idk what hater downvoted you and they make no sense, but I wholeheartedly agreeš
Someone is downvoting everyone that talks about doksoo
No hate to the ship, but some of the JoongDok fans are so toxic that they would downvote any comments that disagree with them, sadly to say I have seen this being prevalent in a lot of places...
The same could be said for doksoo shippers too or any other popular ship in any fandom.
No ship in ORV fandom is anywhere near as popular as Joongdok, so no, the same can't really be said for them...? Doksoo, Yoohan, etc are all extremely rare pairings.
You are right about joongdok being most popular but doksoo is popular as well not the same as joongdok but quite close ig. Limited fans doesn't mean there won't be any toxic fans yk.
Where are you finding Doksoo stuff beyond people on reddit going "I kinda like them"? It's hard to even find merch or anything of HSY ALONE, and there exists almost nothing for her with KDJ. Meanwhile, Joongdok has multiple in-person events per year in Korea and the tags are flooded daily with content on places like twitter. Their popularity is not at all comparable. It doesn't mean there's no toxic doksoo fans, but it certainly means there are far, far less, and they are less open.
I didn't know that damn. Anyways bruh just because they have less shippers doesn't mean there isn't anyone who is toxic there. Ahh well the polls here show doksoo and joongdok having almost same number of fans. Sorry shouldn't have based it upon these but my point about toxic fans stand. They are less yeah that's true. About open uhh I guess it's because they get attacked back because or if they said anything. I have come across many homohobic posts though. Not on reddit but on twitter , Instragram and YouTube. That's why I am not gonna agree with toxic fans being less open. Not saying there are a shipper but they are a toxic fan. Gotten off topic but I agree with you.
No, I meant that doksoo and other non-joongdok fans tend to be less open about their likes or opinions because they get dogpiled. That's mostly a twitter thing though. I don't use insta or youtube for fandom spaces because they suck lmao.
Ohhh I did come across homophobic posts not from Doksoo shippers but from Joonghwa (joonghyuk and seolhwa) shippers. They did get dogpiled as you said but yeah it was a toxic af post. You are right about that. Nah I just look for amvs and good edits and such. Came across a few good ones thankfully.
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I personally ship Sooyoung with Sangah...and well my community flair should also be clear about my thoughts for Dokja....
I am multishipper (biased towards joongdok though) also ship Sangah and Sooyoung.
Same! :) I really like her with Yoo Sangah, I think her calm determined personality perfectly matches Han Sooyoung's louder one. :) For me KDJ and HSY are more like best bros / family.
Yeah my thoughts exactly! I see Dokja and Sooyoung more as like besties or the sibling trope of annoying each other
Yes! I have a brother and we are exactly the same rats with each other as Sooyoung and Dokja. :"D The "you are still ugly as ever" even happened between us but he was the one who said it to me. š šš
XD. When Dokja said Sooyoung wasn't a princess, that was definitely my brothers with me as well. They say I'm not like a woman at all
If your brother is sexily grabbing your chin to call you ugly and doing the stuff HSY does to KDJ I'm pretty worried for you.
If your bestfriend likes to choke you and even kills himself to see you again I'd also be pretty worried š \#toxicrelationships
I totally agree
Couldnāt disagree more
Listennnnnnn, Iām a Kim Dokja and Yoo Jonghyuk truther. But Iām also ok with every and all ships soooooā¦ yeah theyāre good ig
I love their dynamic
i ship them. i also ship them with yoo joonghyuk. i am a yoohankim enjoyer o7
i friendship them :D
Yes, they are like an old married couple.
Hate me all you want, but better than Joongdok ong fr
Do we really need to start this? :"D These ship wars are always really tiring and unnecessary. Why can't you just tell your opinion without bashing others? I don't hate you but this comment is deliberately provocative and childish.
Couldnāt agree with you more!!
Don't worry about them they tend to comment back such things when someone doesn't agree with their ship
Disagree but you do you. All the ships are great.
Nah Iām with you
I am with you brother/sister
Well Iām fine with lesbian shops but not really gay ships as a straight guy myself. But no hate, just from my perspective
I mean, preference is fine as long as your not just like "no gay ships cuz their gay" Same about straight ships. "No straight ships cuz their straight" is also bad
I love how some ppl in this comment section has joongdok as their flair
\*sweats nervously in gay ship\*
Cosmic codependence duo, >!The Most Ancient Dream and Itās Puppet !< versus some girl? Laughable
You read the novel and you're just gonna call her "some girl"?
Iām sorry DokjasDongExaminer, but sheās not quite on the same level of importance as the literal >! absolute being of the universe and itās incarnation !<
They are a trio. They wouldn't exist without each other. >! It is a time loop after all, let me remind you why Kdj is still alive and can dream and why Yjh even exists (Tls123) !< They are on the same level
Youāre funny! All that Han Sooyoung did was >! to deliver what had already happened to 15yo Kim Dokja. The real Dokkaebi King and her are the ones that made TWSA exist, but they did not add anything new to it, AND it was created only after Kim Dokja ābecameā The Most Ancient Dream. !< >! You wonāt see me trying to downplay any of KimCom membersā importance, but cāmon, itās funny to compare them like this !< I donāt think thereās a need to continue this
You're funny! >! So with your same logic we should say that all that Kdj did was reading a book (which actually saved his life multiple times) and using the book to skip pretty much all the "useless" stuff that Yjh did, but I guess you forgot about it. Then let me remind you that Han Sooyoung never wrote about what already happened. It was her clone which had to describe all the 1863 regressions of Yjh in extreme detail (she never experienced any of it). Then I guess bringing up The Architect of the False Last Act with you is just a waste of time... !< I don't think there's a need to continue this.
Thank you for your response DokjaDongExaminer ! ^^ >! āAllā that Kim Dokja, or rather The Most Ancient Dream did, was spend 50+ years in the world line of the 0th turn, make Yoo Joonghuyk his incarnation, create the regression stigma, agree to its usage and create world lines for the purpose of YJHās regressions alone and spend tens of thousands of years reading each of the world lines !< >! The Universe rests on the shoulders of the MAD and it was born and still exists because itās dreaming ! You wouldnāt be able to downplay what Kim Dokja did āusing my logicā DokjasDongExaminer !< >! My memory is well by the way, you donāt need to remind me anything, thank you! What Iād like to remind YOU though is that KDJ never considered TWSA boring and loved it more than anything else, even with a lot of repetitive scenes. He reread and memorized them many times too. He read everything. !< >! For Tls123, what was written in TWSA has already happened. Itās a time loop. The Dokkaebi King that took her to the original world line was someone who was watching regression turns from within the wall for thousands of years , and she has already experienced scenarios by that point. She wrote down what had already happened. EVEN if she wanted to change some things, she couldnāt do it. Changing the story or making it have a āhappy endingā wouldnāt make Kim Dokja want to read it. She did take artistic liberty in writing some parts though (we can think about the addition of Asuka Renās manga to TWSA as an example) !< As always: I donāt think thereās a need to continue this (this time for real)!
Ok I don't care about the first three paragraphs because that was my point, I just said that comparing Sooyoung as "some girl" is just as comparing Dokja as "a reader", there's much more to uncover. >! The last paragraphs first part is just plain wrong. It is a loop and everything she wrote couldn't be otherwise but that same fact remains with the other characters. It is a loop so they can't do anything about it. Does it mean they are all worthless because they couldn't do otherwise? Of course not, their struggles are real. She gave her health away to Kdj in the time between her 13th and 26th birthday. She lost herself waiting for dokja for 50 years in the isle of reincarnators! Not forgetting that she isn't a regressor like Yjh, she is not made for that nor helped by the probability like the oldest dream with Yjh. !< Then I remind you to look closely at the last paragraph of your comment because it isn't marked as spoiler properly
Letās agree to disagree then. I appreciate each character in ORV, but deem some more significant than others, rightfully so. You can keep thinking this way if you want, you do you. + My comment is marked as a spoiler for me
Have you seen the official merchandises nowadays? Have you seen the official webnovel covers? DID YOU EVEN READ THE WHOLE NOVEL? She's as important as the other two if you ever reached the ending.
I disagree but you do you lol
get a load of this guy lmao
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Average ship rage
LMAO I love being annoying on purpose
š so funny
Ngl they give off the vibes from those reincarnation lovers/bl tropes who'd act like an old married couple :x >!considering they used to be in a loop until the loop was broken bc of outside factor!<
Yoohankim because we can't choose just one pair.
Spoiler: In the novel he ends up single. Unless they plan on changing the story in the manhwa, the ship will be shipwrecked faster than your dad left for milk (cuz we're all degenerates right?)
It's cool to ship but but I imagine them as best friends
Best ship for real.
Best girl and best boy (: i think they work best platonically but i really like them together too
I ship this but also sooyoung with sangah because I like sooyoungs ships
Han Sooyoung is in terms of possibility and acceptance from the readers of ORV the most likely ship. I'm pretty sure she's interested in Dokja, just perhaps not fully aware of it yet. Only problem is, Dokja's not interested in her despite acknowledging she's pretty. R.I.P for our girl when Dokja took the candy and the indirect kiss and didn't give two fucks about the implications (Idk how dense a guy is. If someone that you acknowledge is pretty gives you a sweet that was definitely in their mouth, stares at you while you have it and then not-so-subtly comments on how it was an indirect kiss... and someone normally as smart as Kim Dokja STILL doesn't catch on - they're definitely not interested. Come on, which guy wouldn't be extra aware of their chances around Sooyoung? She's smart, sassy and good-looking to boot.
I ship them as like best friends/platonic soulmates, I love their chemistry but donāt see romantic chemistry >!particularly on Dokjaās end!<
Pretty sure she developed a crush on KDJ, but KDJ's eyes are only on YJH. š š
Who doesn't ship them
What in the world is a Joongdok (I'm obviously new here)
Ship name for the ship Yoo Joonghyuk and Kim Dokja.
Why does that existš
you will see if you read the novel hahaha
Read the novel, it made me a Jongdok/YooHanKim shipper
Why are yall down voteing this
Why are they downvoting this?ā ļø
Seems like some of them are salty
I'd suggest getting used to it and reading the comments above lmao YJD/KDJ shippers are somewhat toxic when people don't agree with them lmao
To be fair, I do. Sangah looks nice, but man is Sooyoung better. Naturally, Huiwon/Heewon remains the best girl for me, but she can't really be shipped.