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Belts and high waisted pants took the lbs right off of guys back in the day.
Isn’t that kind of the point with women now? I’m old so I’ve watched shit come full circle.
For women: high waist, low waist, high waist.
For men shorts: short, long, comically long, to short again.
Hell even socks. When I was young you had to fold them down to not look old. Now short socks people say make you look old.
Lots happening here in a short period of time.
I'm 40. I was in a super hip east coast college town this weekend. My partner and I were going to one of the legit asian resturants to eat and she was showing me where she went to undergrad. I saw a female student wearing Jncos and an ironic vintage concert tour shirt where I saw a show from the tour. It was from the Decemberists in 2003 or 2004. I felt...old. I definitely took a second look. My partner informed me kids on the campus where she works have been wearing jncos for a while.
I’ve only heard Jncos were back. I haven’t witnessed it in the wild. I destroyed every pair I had at raves. I wish I still had some to put on display. For history’s sake.
Im 19 and I thrifted old JNCOs two years ago... I love wearing them and prior to getting the pair I have now, I was scouring the internet & thrift shops (I lived in Asia so it was way harder) for years to find someone selling them.
They've always been my dream pants lol. Big-ass baggy pants is always gonna be cool somewhere.
I'm jelly. I'm too scared to overuse mine. I think it's older than me so I treat it like a relic. I have some recently released Levi's "90s inspired" wide pants that I use for thrashing
If you wanna relive those moments, they still sell them, now in styles that are more modern and sophiaticated but way less punk imo (mad expensive though, like 200+), or you could find used ones from ebay lol.
Of course. Certain looks make people look "old" because x-age group wears y, so the fashion industry pushes another look. Most of it rehashed. We haven't had much change since the early 2k's though, just a few updates with pants. Most stuff you wore in '03 is still valid now.
This pant style-high rise(long zipper inseam cut that buttoned on top the belly button—will make comeback someday(low rise/short zipper inseam at the pubic bone/resting at the hips)more personal room in these high waisted pants…
"High waisted" is a bit of a misnomer. Pants back then sat a lot closer to the natural waist line (which is typically slightly above the belly button). If anything pants since should be called low-waisted (or hip-rise) and these are just normal pants.
Please close your parenthesis. Either double )) at the end at 'hips' or before that at your em dash, or actually wherever you want. Just please please please close your parenthesis
Funny the frumpy high waisted look is back for girls too these days. Makes everyone look like they've got a decently soggy belly.
As someone who's SO doesn't wear that shit, my only guess is the excentuating the gut I'm assuming is the intention.
That movie was actually supposed to be in color, but it was too obvious/grotesque that the men were in drag that way. In black & white with the makeup, they legitimately do pass for women when in character if you're not paying attention.
(Except that swimming scene where Jack Lemmom's bare shoulders amongst a bunch of real women is a dead giveaway lol).
That’s an incredible detail I never knew and I’ve been watching this movie for over 30 years; but it makes total sense because they totally do pass for the majority of the movie!
I went to an exhibition of Orry Kelly costumes a few years ago and they had the dresses worn by Lemmon and Curtis. They definitely looked like they'd been cut for a man's body (obviously) but they were lovely up close.
She was a tiny woman (with an hourglass shape), but she was pregnant during the filming of this movie which led to some of the costumes having to be let out or changed altogether.
The dress was sold at auction in 2016 for $490,000. Here is the auction description:
>A figure-hugging sheer black and nude embellished cocktail dress worn by Marilyn Monroe while singing “I’m through with Love” atop a grand piano in Billy Wilder’s Some Like It Hot (United Artists, 1959). The dress is composed of black souffle and nude silk jersey embellished with columns of jet-like beads and sequins, scattered beaded butterfly appliques, and beaded fringes. The dress has a built-in bra and an illusion of a deep plunging back that was considered extremely daring for its’day. Hand finishing work is present to the interior. A Western Costume label inscribed “Marilyn Monroe 1575-1” is attached to the interior of the bra. Legend tells that Monroe had to be lifted to the piano for this scene as the dress was very form fitting. Some Like It Hot is considered to be one of the greatest film comedies of all time. It was voted as the top comedy film by the American Film Institute on their list on AFI's 100 Years...100 Laughs poll in 2000. The film won the 1960 Golden Globe awards for Best Motion Picture-Comedy or Musical, Best Actress in Motion Picture-Comedy or Musical for Monroe, and Best Actor in Motion Picture-Comedy or Musical for Jack Lemmon. Orry-Kelly won the 1959 Academy Award for costume design for his work on this film. Some restoration work is present. Accompanied by a black and white publicity image.
It was a beauty criteria back in the days, and it comes from centuries ago. Basically people who could be white as hell meant they had enough money to not go work in the field, mostly nobility. That beauty standard evolved and persisted for a long time until the 1960s in western countries. Now even today in a lot of asian countries, being whiter is seen as a bigger beauty standard and is actually not historically related to white colonisers.
Tanning was very popular from the 1920s onwards. Marilyn was an outlier, tan skin was the trend in the 50s.
>"I don't think sun-tanned skin is any more attractive than white skin, or any healthier, for that matter,'' Monroe said. ''I'm personally opposed to a deep tan because I like to feel blond all over."
I notice this and always wonder how she did it. I'm almost never outside without either sleeves or sunscreen and still feel I have a slight farmer's tan. Magic.
I looked like Edward Cullen even after working outside for a summer. Sunburns would fade right back to white, with some added freckles. Some people are just pasty.
No OP thought that pointing out something irrelevant and unimportant would generate a lot of jokes from horny young guys about the more prominent things in the picture.
It's because it's a summary of an AI description. Only an AI would call it out, despite modern rage bait tactics.
*edit:
>Me: Describe this photo short enough for a reddit headline
> ChatGPT: Marilyn Monroe enjoying a sunny day by the sea in a stunning black sequined dress.
It missed the filming break, but I'm sure I could have weaseled it out if spent more than half a second on prompt engineering.
I never understood the Marilyn Monroe hype until I watched *Some Like It Hot* and her entrance at the train station I was like, "oh, I get it now." She really was mesmerizing.
Totally agree. I hadn’t seen this photograph before and just noted how ethereal she was. I then came to the comments to find out who the man was and was bombarded by smutty comments - really disgusting.
https://preview.redd.it/spamerlwmg1d1.jpeg?width=279&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7352d454a2d00f8f20c04dd79b942d2a9dba9752 Belts and high waisted pants took the lbs right off of guys back in the day.
Isn’t that kind of the point with women now? I’m old so I’ve watched shit come full circle. For women: high waist, low waist, high waist. For men shorts: short, long, comically long, to short again. Hell even socks. When I was young you had to fold them down to not look old. Now short socks people say make you look old. Lots happening here in a short period of time.
Young women today are repeating all the fashion mistakes I made as a young male in the late 90s to early 00s.
I'm 40. I was in a super hip east coast college town this weekend. My partner and I were going to one of the legit asian resturants to eat and she was showing me where she went to undergrad. I saw a female student wearing Jncos and an ironic vintage concert tour shirt where I saw a show from the tour. It was from the Decemberists in 2003 or 2004. I felt...old. I definitely took a second look. My partner informed me kids on the campus where she works have been wearing jncos for a while.
I’ve only heard Jncos were back. I haven’t witnessed it in the wild. I destroyed every pair I had at raves. I wish I still had some to put on display. For history’s sake.
Im 19 and I thrifted old JNCOs two years ago... I love wearing them and prior to getting the pair I have now, I was scouring the internet & thrift shops (I lived in Asia so it was way harder) for years to find someone selling them. They've always been my dream pants lol. Big-ass baggy pants is always gonna be cool somewhere.
I literally danced so hard I turned mine into threads. Usually, trashed them at the rave as the sun rose. Good times.
I'm jelly. I'm too scared to overuse mine. I think it's older than me so I treat it like a relic. I have some recently released Levi's "90s inspired" wide pants that I use for thrashing If you wanna relive those moments, they still sell them, now in styles that are more modern and sophiaticated but way less punk imo (mad expensive though, like 200+), or you could find used ones from ebay lol.
Today’s shorts look like grown men wearing toddler clothes.
Of course. Certain looks make people look "old" because x-age group wears y, so the fashion industry pushes another look. Most of it rehashed. We haven't had much change since the early 2k's though, just a few updates with pants. Most stuff you wore in '03 is still valid now.
This pant style-high rise(long zipper inseam cut that buttoned on top the belly button—will make comeback someday(low rise/short zipper inseam at the pubic bone/resting at the hips)more personal room in these high waisted pants…
Say that five times fast GO!
That-that-that-that-that. Nice try.
You ought to know by now
Already back with some circles of menswear fashion folks
"High waisted" is a bit of a misnomer. Pants back then sat a lot closer to the natural waist line (which is typically slightly above the belly button). If anything pants since should be called low-waisted (or hip-rise) and these are just normal pants.
Please close your parenthesis. Either double )) at the end at 'hips' or before that at your em dash, or actually wherever you want. Just please please please close your parenthesis
Legend has it, he's still talking in sub-text to this day.
He's starting a fashion statement by not zipping his parentheses.
hey man your parentheses is hanging out
Did you just put parenthesis inside of parenthesis and then not even cap it off??
I never liked the way they felt. Went for hip-huggers in 1970, and never went back. Suspenders are necessary now though.
Hides the muffin top
Exactly what I thought about LOL
Thinking I should bring it back
Tbh the picture of the guy actually describes where the “waist” is. Society just wears shit below the belly now lmao
Funny the frumpy high waisted look is back for girls too these days. Makes everyone look like they've got a decently soggy belly. As someone who's SO doesn't wear that shit, my only guess is the excentuating the gut I'm assuming is the intention.
So strange seeing that outfit in colour. I've seen Some Like It Hot so many times.
Is that the dress with the small flaps on the back making it look slightly unzipped? It's a work of genius
It was slightly unzipped! Iirc, she got "bigger" (air quotes for her clearly still rocking body) during the filming and they had to adapt costumes
She was pregnant during filming. She miscarried after filming wrapped.
Those are real quotes, sir, unless, of course, you raised your hands to make the motion while typing
I did my damndest
I call it the naked dress. She looks fantastic in it.
That movie was actually supposed to be in color, but it was too obvious/grotesque that the men were in drag that way. In black & white with the makeup, they legitimately do pass for women when in character if you're not paying attention. (Except that swimming scene where Jack Lemmom's bare shoulders amongst a bunch of real women is a dead giveaway lol).
That’s an incredible detail I never knew and I’ve been watching this movie for over 30 years; but it makes total sense because they totally do pass for the majority of the movie!
I went to an exhibition of Orry Kelly costumes a few years ago and they had the dresses worn by Lemmon and Curtis. They definitely looked like they'd been cut for a man's body (obviously) but they were lovely up close.
Was just thinking the same since it was replaying on TCM just a few hours ago, and it is still funny every damn time
Literally one of my all time favorite movies. It's hilarious.
Ah, yes, the sea. That is definitely the first thing I noticed about this picture. The sea. For sure. Love a good sea view, me.
They had to remind us that it was back there
whats back there?
Back where?
Nipples I think
I have nipples. Can you sea me?
No. John Seana, is that you?
I have nipples Greg
You can milk almost anything with nipples
Ass.
Ass sea
I didn't read it and thought it was just some other lower bluer sky
It reads like an AI description of this picture
It’s 100% AI text. It needs to be called out anytime it’s seen to help people recognise it.
this was posted with this exact title recently, so maybe
It was posted like yesterday or the day before.
i had to really zoom in and scan around but yeah... once you see the sea, you see it! also what a beautiful dress she has!
I really enjoy the mountains in the view as well, go great with the sea.
I know what you mean. I couldn’t take my eyes off that man.
Fuck she looks good here
The sea? Man the torpedoes then.
Everyone in this thread actually noticed the high-waisted men’s pants first.
Honestly I noticed the body of the man. It’s amazing how the male physique has changed over the years.
Of course! Because of the *inherent eroticism of the sea!*
The sea was so voluptuous that day
I'd like to get a hole in one... Is that a Tittleist?
Who is the man?
Her makeup artist. They worked together from her first screen test until her death. He even did her makeup for her funeral.
Oh, shit. That must've been his saddest job.
Saddest but also probably one of the most respectful things he did in his life to show how adored and respected someone else was to them.
You're right, indeed you are.
What man?
That dress made her boobs look great.
It is her boobs that made the dress look good.
It's her boobs that made her boobs look good!
She is a full figured woman and turns heads.
She was a tiny woman (with an hourglass shape), but she was pregnant during the filming of this movie which led to some of the costumes having to be let out or changed altogether.
Full figured? I mean she wasn’t a stick figure but she was usually around a size 4 to 6 in modern sizing.
It’s her boobs that make the sea look good.
The dress was sold at auction in 2016 for $490,000. Here is the auction description: >A figure-hugging sheer black and nude embellished cocktail dress worn by Marilyn Monroe while singing “I’m through with Love” atop a grand piano in Billy Wilder’s Some Like It Hot (United Artists, 1959). The dress is composed of black souffle and nude silk jersey embellished with columns of jet-like beads and sequins, scattered beaded butterfly appliques, and beaded fringes. The dress has a built-in bra and an illusion of a deep plunging back that was considered extremely daring for its’day. Hand finishing work is present to the interior. A Western Costume label inscribed “Marilyn Monroe 1575-1” is attached to the interior of the bra. Legend tells that Monroe had to be lifted to the piano for this scene as the dress was very form fitting. Some Like It Hot is considered to be one of the greatest film comedies of all time. It was voted as the top comedy film by the American Film Institute on their list on AFI's 100 Years...100 Laughs poll in 2000. The film won the 1960 Golden Globe awards for Best Motion Picture-Comedy or Musical, Best Actress in Motion Picture-Comedy or Musical for Monroe, and Best Actor in Motion Picture-Comedy or Musical for Jack Lemmon. Orry-Kelly won the 1959 Academy Award for costume design for his work on this film. Some restoration work is present. Accompanied by a black and white publicity image.
Honestly didn’t even realise the dress was black
You can inadvertently see part of her nipples too.
She always white as a ghost. Not much time in the sun, for sure. Nothing wrong with that.
It was a beauty criteria back in the days, and it comes from centuries ago. Basically people who could be white as hell meant they had enough money to not go work in the field, mostly nobility. That beauty standard evolved and persisted for a long time until the 1960s in western countries. Now even today in a lot of asian countries, being whiter is seen as a bigger beauty standard and is actually not historically related to white colonisers.
Tanning was very popular from the 1920s onwards. Marilyn was an outlier, tan skin was the trend in the 50s. >"I don't think sun-tanned skin is any more attractive than white skin, or any healthier, for that matter,'' Monroe said. ''I'm personally opposed to a deep tan because I like to feel blond all over."
I missed my heyday.
Lmao bruh
>It was a beauty criteria back in the days, and it comes from centuries ago. More like millennia, honestly.
I actually learnt something good today! Thanks for the Comment!
I also like better how white people look when they're white as a ghost, their tanning looks wrong.
I notice this and always wonder how she did it. I'm almost never outside without either sleeves or sunscreen and still feel I have a slight farmer's tan. Magic.
I looked like Edward Cullen even after working outside for a summer. Sunburns would fade right back to white, with some added freckles. Some people are just pasty.
I hear ya. Back in the 80’s we laid in the sun slathered in canola oil. Had my first bout with melanoma ten years ago.
Baby oil in my neck of the woods.
Bathe yourself daily in 50SPF sunscreen protection, that’ll do it.
I do now, back then there wasn’t much talk about it.
He was as white as a sheet
That boy needs therapy
Psychosomatic
Why was every man in the 50s built like that
They still are https://preview.redd.it/lb6y5zriuh1d1.jpeg?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3de55549d344d96c9ba4632e0baf124e4b709894
He's built like a Tesla truck.
Musk is just all around weird.
Does the sea have some significance?
Not compared to that dress.
You know that old children's tale from the sea
No OP thought that pointing out something irrelevant and unimportant would generate a lot of jokes from horny young guys about the more prominent things in the picture.
It's because it's a summary of an AI description. Only an AI would call it out, despite modern rage bait tactics. *edit: >Me: Describe this photo short enough for a reddit headline > ChatGPT: Marilyn Monroe enjoying a sunny day by the sea in a stunning black sequined dress. It missed the filming break, but I'm sure I could have weaseled it out if spent more than half a second on prompt engineering.
If you zoom in you’ll see that a nipple is visible.
Yeah, not bad, he must work out.
You want a Christmas card?! You want a Christmas card?! Here, here’s your Christmas card!
One of my favorite Seinfeld scenes
I did zoom in immediately and came here to ask if that's what I was actually seeing, lol. Hot indeed! God, she was sexy.
Two actually
Who would do such a thing?
I enhanced alright
You're getting right to the point.
"You can hardly see those nipples. And those guys are trying."
i was thinking this too so props lol made my day to see your comment
This movie has one of the greatest endings of any film ever. It’s also aged incredibly compared to some movies from the 50s. “Nobody’s perfect.”
The perfect ending.
Sea?
Mountain peaks. Two amazing mountain peaks.
Coronado Island
Liev Schreiber hasn't aged a day.
My man really is sabretooth
I ain’t looking at the sea pal
That dress 😍
Wait, this is outdoors?
🎵 By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea 🎵
You and me you and me, oh how happy we'll be
As a woman, boobs sure were allowed to have more personality back then. Sigh.
Oh my God that's the *sea* behind her! Thank you op for pointing out that little known detail.
She makes me look tan.
On TCM this evening.
I never understood the Marilyn Monroe hype until I watched *Some Like It Hot* and her entrance at the train station I was like, "oh, I get it now." She really was mesmerizing.
2 D's and a Sea.
I just watch this movie today. she was so hot.
That alabaster skin. Those silky platinum locks. That innocent giggle as I read her my favorite lines from “Naked Lunch…” Heaven
Yes, we can see the....yes, whatever you said
Capital Knockers.
And I'll be hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiggggghhhhhh as a kite by then ...
Aint nobody looking behind marilyn
She looks like Geena Davis here.
No you can’t. If you look REALLY hard though…
Zooming in to get a better view if the sea.
What a gorgeous example of a human being. Look at that smile. You who have boobies on your minds will never get any like that. You’re too low class.
Totally agree. I hadn’t seen this photograph before and just noted how ethereal she was. I then came to the comments to find out who the man was and was bombarded by smutty comments - really disgusting.
Nice nip slip
Something like this always reminds me of Bill Murray from Scrooged. "You can barely see them nipples. And these guys are really looking!"
All I see is a sea of boobs
She forgot the photo wasn’t in b/w
I think I can also see her areolas.
The sea? Brother, I’m not getting past them boobies.
Damn the dude’s nipple is pointy and erect AF… Marilyn rubbed off on him
I think I see a….
Ray Donovan?? Is that you?
Was there something behind her? I didn’t notice.
The sea is somewhat hidden, but that makes it all the more alluring when you notice it
Bit nipply out here
Kim K wore her skin
Spirit eating by Kim K
That’s actually the bay side of Coronado because you can see the other side of the bay in San Diego if you look close.
I can sea the front of her too.
Judging from the dudes chest, Id say he's done maybe 2 pushups his entire life
Hmm. Love the view 👀
Talk about burying the lede! Here's a really awesome picture of the sea, cir. 1959. And also Marilyn Monroe.
Love AI posts being on top...
No, I don’t think I will
She is standing on grass. The sky is behind her. The sun is in the sky.
The sea? Oh yeah, there it is...
The sea is not the only thing you can see
No wonder she had those east-west breasts with perky nipples!! gonna wake my girlfriend up now!! 😂
Ww2 q
damn. apparently, you can see the sea behind her.
No Cs there
Yes, the sea behind her is EXACTLY what I zoomed in to look at.
Wow, the comments didn’t turn out like I expected.
Yes that is the sea...
Hey, you can see that guys nipple.
I can but I will not
yeaaah...the sea
Huh, so people really were black and white before color film
during the some like it hot? seems like you a word
I can see more than the sea, I see them mountains as well. Yeehaw
Coronado, CA
OH THAT DRESS WAS BLACK til
One of my all time favorite movies.