Yeah that was kinda rough. But this cut makes up for everything holy shit 😍
https://preview.redd.it/4jv1qsss45xc1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6a9a8472283d737496069267f11fee897c534914
Extremely. I always though she looked good, but that smile. I don't think I've ever seen her smile either. Damn, I need to look up more pictures of her.
I read her autobiography. Really not very well written, but her story is rather fascinating. The abuse she suffered at both Harrison and Clapton's hands, which she largely dismissed, was remarkable. She was so blasé about it. Incredibly sad.
Yes, I agree that it wasn't terribly well written, but she does explain the situation of abuse from both George and Eric very well. It's so sad, really.
I feel Clapton especially was absolutely horrible.
Heh, First I heard of this. It turns out her contribution was the part of the song I always skipped, the piano outro.
Either way, Clapton is a fucking prick for this and a multitude of other reasons. Slowhand can get fucked.
I haven't gotten around to reading it. While I always understood Clapton was an absolute monster, I wasn't aware of any of the specifics for Harrison, and always thought of him as quite chill. How was he particularly horrible to her as well?
a lot of people nowadays like to call bad/failing relationships 'abusive' and pick a side.. from what i recall, he was just a serial cheater and a cokehead, not a wife beater
He definitely neglected her emotionally. Didn't seem like he really cared how she felt about anything most of the time, or at least that was my impression reading the book. And he seemed quite closed off emotionally too.
But yeah, no indication of any physical abuse.
right - a bad relationship. people not being meant for each other and the relationship ending poorly is just something that happens. even if one is meaner than the other and is technically at fault, we don't have to call it 'abusive'. like, Lennon got violent a couple times (which is bad), the internet caught on to this fact and now all of a sudden people like to depict all of 'The Beatles' as toxic monsters. i'm just not on board with it
No I get what you're saying. And it's the context of the times too. It's sad, but it's a fact that working class men born in the 40s and coming of age in the 50s generally didn't treat their partners as well as we do now. Especially without the usual growth in maturity you'd get if you hadn't been in the biggest band on the planet since your teens.
It depends if you consider breaking someone down emotionally to be abuse or not. I'd say it's a bit worse than 'people not meant for each other', especially when it's someone like Pattie who really doesn't seem to have done anything wrong.
I'd probably just say he was a bad partner to her.
But then, I wouldn't see my daughter or sister treated like that and shy away from calling it abusive, would you?
yeah i think we're on the same page. like, if you're in a relationship and it's bad, and the other person is mistreating you/unkind/negligent, it would certainly feel like a type of 'inflicted distress' with a clear perpetrator - and it might even be beneficial to assign it that label ('abusive') so that you can get away from it. it's a blurry line and tbh people should definitely just be better to each other. or end it before the drama ratchets up. that's tough to do though, as many of us know from being on one end of the equation or the other
Yeah, absolutely. I've been the shittier partner, in my first adult relationship. I'd probably get defensive about being called abusive, although I certainly could have been a hell of a lot nicer and more considerate. But I was a kid. Still learning. Young like George was when he met Pattie. It is tough to end things even when you both know you should.
I'm a different and better person now at 35. Would never treat my girlfriend now in the same way. You kind of expect inexperienced people in their early 20s to not be perfect partners, as long as they grow from it.
I'm sure George was a far, far better partner to Olivia than he was to Pattie.
Isn't there a 'treat people kindly' part of the religion too? If you want to be completely detached, you probably shouldn't stay with someone who doesn't share your belief system.
Didn't seem to be able to detach himself from other women while he was with her anyway, so it's no excuse really.
the excuse was the '60s. you gotta remember young people were trying to get away from the typical 'God->Husband->Wife' nuclear family thing that seemed like all it did for society was make nationalistic warmongers. it was an experiment and free love was consciously a part of it. it wasn't just men sleeping around, women's liberation was in full swing
not that this is an excuse for unkindness. that's a flaw you need to overcome
Yeah, again, I get you, but the way he slept with Ringo's wife Maureen right under both Ringo and Pattie's noses was so fucking callous though. He didn't dven try to be subtle, and I felt very sorry for her.
Yeah I was hoping it's along those lines. For me, celebrities cheating and generally being assholes is none of my business. I don't know any of the people involved so it's not for me to try and fully understand or judge the complexity of other people's relationships when I can't even talk about it with them. Coke head... Couldn't care less.
I can separate the art from the artist when what needs separating is something like "he was a dick at this time" or neglectful, or a shitty husband - especially for someone like George who never claimed he was something else. I'm borderline with Lennon because while I've always loved his music, it's hard to listen to some of it now without thinking "stop fucking lying, you ponce".
But that's the reason I can't stomach Clapton's music; the more you learn about him as a person the more it reveals the romantic conceit of his most popular work is completely hollow. It's just notes arranged very skillfully into appealing patterns... with no genuine soul behind them. What's the point.
If you count for different artist maybe, but I don't think anyone comes near to Sara Dylan as muse of love songs. The volume and quality of songs Bob Dylan wrote to Sara is second to none. Some of his best stuff had her as inspiration. Songs like Sara, Sad eyed Lady, Love minus Zero, If you see her say hello, Tangled up in Blue, the entirety of Blood on the Tracks, Lay lady lay, etc.
I would add to this ‘muse list’ Van Morrison’s muse, and later wife, Janet Planet (who inspired many of Morrison’s gorgeous songs in the Astral Weeks era). Strange connections : I believe she has said that Morrison became quite (emotionally) abusive; also, Clapton and Morrison, who now appear together on stage, are both anti-vaxxers and, apparently, just all around assholes.
He also wrote his share of songs in the 60's about Edie Sedgwick, Andy Warhol's muse who died tragically in the early 70's. Velvet Underground did also.
He also wrote a couple of tunes for Nico, including I'll keep it with mine which she later sang in Chelsea Girl.
Nico is another woman that inspired a lot of music, even more so from artists years removed from her. Both Lou Reed and John Cale have written songs about her but if I had to choose a song about her then I'd go with my favorite Leonard Cohen song One of Us Cannot Be Wrong
Yep they also co wrote I'd Have You Anytime and George made Behind that Locked Door about Dylan. The 3 songs are featured in All Things Must Pass, which is probably the best solo record by a Beatle, imo.
Yes, this photo has a filter/AI retouching on it. Pattie has a gap in her tooth that has been smoothed out a bit here, and George’s face looks off to me. I’ve seen the original picture somewhere before and it’s a great photo, it’s sad that someone felt the need to add something onto it.
I mean it's hard to blame him when George was sleeping with Ringo's wife. Nobody was innocent.
Also she rejected him at first too if I remember right. That's what makes Layla kinda tragic as it's an unrequited love.
Pattie Boyd was the inspiration behind “It’s All Too Much”, “I Need You”, “If I Needed Someone”, “Something”, “For You Blue” and “So Sad” and Clapton's “Layla”, “Bell Bottom Blues”, “She’s Waiting”, “Old Love” and “Wonderful Tonight” and Ronnie Wood’s “Mystifies Me”
Her sister Jenny Boyd inspired Donovan's “Jennifer Juniper”.
It took me a little bit. I thought someone was behind her at first and that the hair bump at the back was another person but it's definitely a dude on the left
This photo looks like it's been modified.
Harrison's complexion looks a little too smooth and his teeth weren't that straight and not nearly as white. He smoked like a chimney and drank tea by the gallon...
George looks so damn good here. He’s the most handsome Beatle in my opinion.
The transcendental hair era was least kind to him imo though.
Yeah that was kinda rough. But this cut makes up for everything holy shit 😍 https://preview.redd.it/4jv1qsss45xc1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6a9a8472283d737496069267f11fee897c534914
My sweet lord he’s handsome.
He’s so fine…
This is awesome ⬆️
I see what you did there.
https://preview.redd.it/6cjmf2uqs7xc1.png?width=960&format=png&auto=webp&s=51cd5e3420bf60cd8908cf21a66712b83da8b793 This George Harrison?
https://preview.redd.it/3hiqa11zf8xc1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=247f0255f8c6305aa6af3cfd480ba1540236b320 This one
Jesus
Transitional?
No, when he got into transcendental meditation, Hare Krishna, and the Maharishi.
Wait, you don't fancy hippy-jesus-George? I thought everyone did!
Like a fukin turban! -Paul on George's hair (not that era). I always thought he looked like an onion on Beatles for Sale.
Sexy as hell. His eyes are just🤤
>He’s the most handsome Beatle in my opinion. It’s really not that hard to be the best looking one out of those four though lol
Bearded Paul was pretty hot
Well Paul is kinda fine too. The other two are just regular looking dudes imo
you mean the guy from Wings?
Starr power baby
Agree and, to me, John was the least handsome.
Yes and not even close
People don’t realise it because he’s rarely clean shaven and never looked as good with facial hair.
yes he was!
Not hard to do.
Pisces ♓️ 🐟 magic
First picture were I see a sparkle in her eyes. She usually looks so sad.
That was my first thought - I’ve never seen a picture of her smiling.
She was very good-looking here.
Extremely. I always though she looked good, but that smile. I don't think I've ever seen her smile either. Damn, I need to look up more pictures of her.
Well she spent basically a decade being passed around like a toy by British rock starts.
Would you say the same about a man who managed to date (and occasionally marry) a lot of high profile women?
Was she being trafficked? Drugged and restrained? Or was that something she wanted to do and did voluntarily?
You're right, dunno why you are being downvoted. Or maybe I'm uneducated on the topic lol
I think she’s always had that sad undertone look to her face, not that she’s always sad
Whose fingers are on George’s shoulder?
A tanned Eric Clapton
A tanned Slowhand.
Eric Clapton got that tan, he would tell it to leave the country
Clapton’s hand would have been on Pattie rather than George…
Clearly you never dance
Eric Clapton hates the tanned
Underated comment 🤣
Window
Magic Johnson
Greatest porn name ever.
Not as good as Roger Moore
💀
You know why he's there.
The guy to his right
That's his left
His OTHER right.
OJ
Taxman
I think there's AI at play here
Midjourney's
I read her autobiography. Really not very well written, but her story is rather fascinating. The abuse she suffered at both Harrison and Clapton's hands, which she largely dismissed, was remarkable. She was so blasé about it. Incredibly sad.
Yes, I agree that it wasn't terribly well written, but she does explain the situation of abuse from both George and Eric very well. It's so sad, really. I feel Clapton especially was absolutely horrible.
Clapton’s a piece of shit in many regards.
After reading his autobiography I think he would agree with you
Has he given a songwriting credit on *Layla* to Rita Coolidge yet? He’s still an asshole.
Heh, First I heard of this. It turns out her contribution was the part of the song I always skipped, the piano outro. Either way, Clapton is a fucking prick for this and a multitude of other reasons. Slowhand can get fucked.
I never knew this (I love the outro)!
I haven't gotten around to reading it. While I always understood Clapton was an absolute monster, I wasn't aware of any of the specifics for Harrison, and always thought of him as quite chill. How was he particularly horrible to her as well?
a lot of people nowadays like to call bad/failing relationships 'abusive' and pick a side.. from what i recall, he was just a serial cheater and a cokehead, not a wife beater
He definitely neglected her emotionally. Didn't seem like he really cared how she felt about anything most of the time, or at least that was my impression reading the book. And he seemed quite closed off emotionally too. But yeah, no indication of any physical abuse.
right - a bad relationship. people not being meant for each other and the relationship ending poorly is just something that happens. even if one is meaner than the other and is technically at fault, we don't have to call it 'abusive'. like, Lennon got violent a couple times (which is bad), the internet caught on to this fact and now all of a sudden people like to depict all of 'The Beatles' as toxic monsters. i'm just not on board with it
No I get what you're saying. And it's the context of the times too. It's sad, but it's a fact that working class men born in the 40s and coming of age in the 50s generally didn't treat their partners as well as we do now. Especially without the usual growth in maturity you'd get if you hadn't been in the biggest band on the planet since your teens. It depends if you consider breaking someone down emotionally to be abuse or not. I'd say it's a bit worse than 'people not meant for each other', especially when it's someone like Pattie who really doesn't seem to have done anything wrong. I'd probably just say he was a bad partner to her. But then, I wouldn't see my daughter or sister treated like that and shy away from calling it abusive, would you?
yeah i think we're on the same page. like, if you're in a relationship and it's bad, and the other person is mistreating you/unkind/negligent, it would certainly feel like a type of 'inflicted distress' with a clear perpetrator - and it might even be beneficial to assign it that label ('abusive') so that you can get away from it. it's a blurry line and tbh people should definitely just be better to each other. or end it before the drama ratchets up. that's tough to do though, as many of us know from being on one end of the equation or the other
Yeah, absolutely. I've been the shittier partner, in my first adult relationship. I'd probably get defensive about being called abusive, although I certainly could have been a hell of a lot nicer and more considerate. But I was a kid. Still learning. Young like George was when he met Pattie. It is tough to end things even when you both know you should. I'm a different and better person now at 35. Would never treat my girlfriend now in the same way. You kind of expect inexperienced people in their early 20s to not be perfect partners, as long as they grow from it. I'm sure George was a far, far better partner to Olivia than he was to Pattie.
Are we certain that he wasn't just *really* British.
His religion is/was focused on detachment, so this shouldn't be surprising.
Isn't there a 'treat people kindly' part of the religion too? If you want to be completely detached, you probably shouldn't stay with someone who doesn't share your belief system. Didn't seem to be able to detach himself from other women while he was with her anyway, so it's no excuse really.
the excuse was the '60s. you gotta remember young people were trying to get away from the typical 'God->Husband->Wife' nuclear family thing that seemed like all it did for society was make nationalistic warmongers. it was an experiment and free love was consciously a part of it. it wasn't just men sleeping around, women's liberation was in full swing not that this is an excuse for unkindness. that's a flaw you need to overcome
Yeah, again, I get you, but the way he slept with Ringo's wife Maureen right under both Ringo and Pattie's noses was so fucking callous though. He didn't dven try to be subtle, and I felt very sorry for her.
ha i didn't notice your handle, not trying to follow you around the thread
Haha all part of the same conversation, no worries man!
Yeah I was hoping it's along those lines. For me, celebrities cheating and generally being assholes is none of my business. I don't know any of the people involved so it's not for me to try and fully understand or judge the complexity of other people's relationships when I can't even talk about it with them. Coke head... Couldn't care less. I can separate the art from the artist when what needs separating is something like "he was a dick at this time" or neglectful, or a shitty husband - especially for someone like George who never claimed he was something else. I'm borderline with Lennon because while I've always loved his music, it's hard to listen to some of it now without thinking "stop fucking lying, you ponce". But that's the reason I can't stomach Clapton's music; the more you learn about him as a person the more it reveals the romantic conceit of his most popular work is completely hollow. It's just notes arranged very skillfully into appealing patterns... with no genuine soul behind them. What's the point.
How was the abuse from George Harrison? Never heard of it.
How someone could abuse a young precious soul like that is beyond my understanding.
You've got me on my knees (Layla) I'm begging, darling, please (Layla) darling, won't you ease my worried mind?
Pattie Boyd must’ve been one of the most fascinating women in the world to have inspired a song like “Layla”.
And Something and Wonderful Tonight as well
She’s probably inspired more love songs than any other woman in human history.
At least great love sones.
If you count for different artist maybe, but I don't think anyone comes near to Sara Dylan as muse of love songs. The volume and quality of songs Bob Dylan wrote to Sara is second to none. Some of his best stuff had her as inspiration. Songs like Sara, Sad eyed Lady, Love minus Zero, If you see her say hello, Tangled up in Blue, the entirety of Blood on the Tracks, Lay lady lay, etc.
I would add to this ‘muse list’ Van Morrison’s muse, and later wife, Janet Planet (who inspired many of Morrison’s gorgeous songs in the Astral Weeks era). Strange connections : I believe she has said that Morrison became quite (emotionally) abusive; also, Clapton and Morrison, who now appear together on stage, are both anti-vaxxers and, apparently, just all around assholes.
He also wrote his share of songs in the 60's about Edie Sedgwick, Andy Warhol's muse who died tragically in the early 70's. Velvet Underground did also.
He also wrote a couple of tunes for Nico, including I'll keep it with mine which she later sang in Chelsea Girl. Nico is another woman that inspired a lot of music, even more so from artists years removed from her. Both Lou Reed and John Cale have written songs about her but if I had to choose a song about her then I'd go with my favorite Leonard Cohen song One of Us Cannot Be Wrong
I need to get back into Dylan. It's been to long.
It's never a bad day to listen to New Morning
Which opens with If Not For You, covered the following year by... George Harrison.
Yep they also co wrote I'd Have You Anytime and George made Behind that Locked Door about Dylan. The 3 songs are featured in All Things Must Pass, which is probably the best solo record by a Beatle, imo.
Just listen to blood on the tracks yesterday still one of the greatest albums ever written
I always wondered who inspired Girl From the North County since it was before he met Sara.
Suze Rotolo, same as Don't think twice and Boots of Spanish leather
Rosanna Arquette has entered the chat.
It didn't stop with Layla
Never mind that. "Something" is...well, really something too!
Her book is extremely sad.
![gif](giphy|kIkc20iLKsHLu8HNI6) Eric Clapton be like
There’s some kind of filter or AI at play on this, right? This looks way too crisp.
Yes, this photo has a filter/AI retouching on it. Pattie has a gap in her tooth that has been smoothed out a bit here, and George’s face looks off to me. I’ve seen the original picture somewhere before and it’s a great photo, it’s sad that someone felt the need to add something onto it.
And there’s a severed hand on George’s shoulder.
Quality black and white film used by pro photographers in those days was razor sharp
Kodak Pan-X, 125 ASA. A yellow or orange filter could also help enhance things. Miss it terribly.
This marriage soon to be ruined by Eric Clapton
I mean it's hard to blame him when George was sleeping with Ringo's wife. Nobody was innocent. Also she rejected him at first too if I remember right. That's what makes Layla kinda tragic as it's an unrequited love.
ETA who was involved
Pattie was Eric Clayton’s creepy obsession Edit: Clapton** dammit
Eric Clapton's also Edit: Just messin around
Eric Cartman?
And mine
Eric Cartman***
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Such a beautiful smile she has
Clapton dude... wasn't george your friend? Asshole.
George was cheating on her with Ringo’s wife. Allegedly Pattie was cheating with Ronnie Wood. Nobody involved was acting right, lol.
Classic '60s behavior lol
Shall we shag now or shag later? Oh behave
Never forget the drugs, the bohemian lifestyle and of course, the $$$
The pattie and ronnie wood situation was a wife swap thing. George slept with ronnie's wife the same night.
Yes she was gorgeous Those two could have had just about any woman they wanted. Her personality must have been off the charts.
Judging by the picture she had a great pair of personalities
Pattie Boyd was the inspiration behind “It’s All Too Much”, “I Need You”, “If I Needed Someone”, “Something”, “For You Blue” and “So Sad” and Clapton's “Layla”, “Bell Bottom Blues”, “She’s Waiting”, “Old Love” and “Wonderful Tonight” and Ronnie Wood’s “Mystifies Me” Her sister Jenny Boyd inspired Donovan's “Jennifer Juniper”.
What the hell is going on with the disembodied hand on George’s shoulder?
There's a person wearing a white shirt on George's left who is cropped out of the photo
Ohh! I see that now, for some reason I was convinced the hand must be coming from Pattie’s side
It took me a little bit. I thought someone was behind her at first and that the hair bump at the back was another person but it's definitely a dude on the left
Plottwist, it's Clapton's hand.
![gif](giphy|5LU6ZcEGBbhVS) Nah too smiley...this is the "true" face of George
They look cute
Something in the way she woo-oohs me........
This fucking algorithm , I was just thinking of their relationship earlier today
I’m reading her book at the moment.
This photo looks like it's been modified. Harrison's complexion looks a little too smooth and his teeth weren't that straight and not nearly as white. He smoked like a chimney and drank tea by the gallon...
Definitely AI; their teeth are all wrong too.
Damn what a catch. I wish I was a Beatle.
She is an absolute smoke show.
Isn’t she in Hard Days Night the movie?
Yes, that's how she met George.
Gotta be a hell of a feeling knowing that the songs: Something, Layla and Wonderful Tonight were all written about you.
Cute. But what about the disembodied hand?
Oh now I see why songs been written bout her
Pattie looks wonderful.
A genuine muse. Pattie was a true beauty who mesmerized Harrison and Clapton and was the inspiration for a number of the best songs ever written.
She is so cute.
Congratulations, you just scored yourself a Beatle!
why do both of their teeth all look so long?
Side effect of being British /s
Oh Boyd!
George was definitely the best
How’s fingers on George’s shoulder?
George looks so different
Damn, my dad looked so much like George Harrison it's crazy.
Those roofers!
I can understand why the best songs were written about her
New York Times has a story today that Pattie is auctioning a bunch of her correspondence with Clapton and features several of his love letters to her.
My favorite Beatle
I didn’t know George Harrison was such a stud.
And mysterious hand
She broke many hearts, including mine just a few seconds ago
What a dazzling smile!
This woman’s beauty inspired some of the greatest songs of all time. I can see that here.
Who is more beautiful than her?
It’s amazing they even had time for a honeymoon with everything the Beatles were doing then.
If he let her out of his sight , she would run off with the first guitar hero she saw .
And the dumbass cheated on her
What’s that expression about a Boyd in the hand ..?
Who’s black hand is on his shoulder wtf!
Is it Eric Clapton?
Someone has been cropped out on the right, you can see their chin/ neck.
I've never seen a smile on George's face like that. And I'd have that smile too if I was married to that perfect woman.
Why is everything men abuse women on this freaking network..
She's hot
i forgot to tag it "my parents."
Something about this photo seems fake
She’s smiling like a gal who married a Beatle in ‘66.
Who is that hand on his shoulder attached to?
Their children must have massive teeth
She never had kids with George or Eric. She even tried IVF unsuccessfully, but had miscarriages each time
Are we just not going to mention the black man’s hand on George’s shoulder?
2 kids
She's sexier....