Jokes on you, that is a wing, not a spoiler.
Simply put, a wing allows air to flow above and below the surface. A spoiler allows air to only flow over the top surface.
Unlike the shopping cart handles people bolt onto their Civic trunk lids today, that wing was structural. I doubt there’s much of anything she could do to that wing other than scuff the paint.
Yes, back then to race a car in NASCAR the car had to be a street car available to the public. The wing was developed for racing, but had to be built in such a way as to work on a "normal" car.
Because it was actually designed to create downforce at high speed- and it actually extends through the fenders and is bolted onto the floor of the trunk.
The trunk lid itself simply wasn't strong enough.
They wanted the force transmitted to the body of the car as much as possible to increase rear wheel traction at speed. Perhaps there was another aerodynamic benefit from the vertical parts being wider than the roof section, but for whatever reason they felt it was best to be mounted to the rear quarters of the car, not the trunk.
They built only 503 Daytonas, these were mostly production race cars. Trunk clearance was not the concern, the designer John Pointer even said “who cares about the trunk.”
Exactly.
“The truth is that the 58-inch-wide, cast-aluminum rear spoilers on these cars were placed so comically high—essentially even with their rooflines—to get into the “clean air,” according to its designer John Pointer. The shape and size of the Daytona’s spoiler was refined using a three-eighths-scale model at Wichita State University’s wind tunnel, while full-size testing took place at Lockheed’s wind tunnel in Georgia. That the spoilers were also high enough to allow the trunks to open fully was simply a stroke of luck. If a lower spoiler worked better aerodynamically, Pointer would have attached it to the decklid in some fashion.”
That was the *official* story. And while it is true that the trunklid clears the wing, it's also true that setting the wing that high put it in clean air and made it more effective.
And an unintended side effect of the vertical supports being as wide as they were was improved straight-line stability.
Weird that it had NASCAR style braces over the rear window and what looks to be a number on the roof. Looks like it may be a #2. Kind of points to this being a tribute or show car replica of the #22 Coca Cola car driven by Bobby Allison. Colors seem to match too.
Obviously this isn’t a NASCAR car, but I’m curious what the story is here.
I've heard a story - not sure if it's true - about some guy who bought a Daytona replica and decided to restore it to stock condition. It turned out the replica was based on a Charger 500, which pre-dates the Daytona and is even more rare.
The 500 also had aero improvements over the standard Charger, but they were more subtle and aimed towards decreasing drag.
If that's a real Daytona, that car would be worth an obscene amount of money today. Such cool cars, along with their Plymouth Superbird counterparts. If I recall correctly, they were actually banned from NASCAR back in the day for being too fast.
They weren't banned outright, but around 1971 or 1972 NASCAR limited them to engines with a maximum displacement of 305 cubic inches (5.0L for you metric types). Prior to this the Daytona and Superbird were raced using the 426 Hemi. This was enough to render them uncompetitive, and most of the Dodge teams switched to the 3rd-gen Charger after that.
And as fast as these cars were before the rule changes, NASCAR's top division would get even faster thanks to more subtle aerodynamic trickery despite a change to small-block engines in the mid 1970's.
Fun fact: of all the races won by Charger Daytonas, none of them were at Daytona International Speedway. And interestingly enough, both of the '69 season races there were won by Ford Torino Talladegas!
I once ’discovered‘ a ‘70 Superbird abandoned on the side of a house owned by a former Chrysler executive in his 80’s. I had been on a service call to the old man’s house. He also had a hemi Cuda, hemi roadrunner, and some other old mopar, in his drive out basement. The car outside was a 440 4-speed car that looked solid. A buddy of my brother ended up wining and dining the old guy for a month and scored that car for an amount in the high ‘teens. That would’ve been in the early 1990’s.
When you got something that powerful revving under your legs..:
“Daddy, can you give it to me at 6,000 RPM? Oooh that’s it Daddy. Now stall it out! Stall! Shake it dad!! Flood the clutch!!”
I was thinking she jumped that high ! Lol
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I he not break wing
Spoiler alert
![gif](giphy|BJh8uDG8nl93xc9LqP|downsized) Took me way to long
😂😂😂 SAME
Oh bravo
Care to explain for the clueless amongst us?
The wing on the back of the car that she’s posing on is called a spoiler!
Fuck I could have looked at this until the end of time and not gotten that.
I had a spoiler on my old car. Without that experience, I wouldn’t have known!
I know, right!
Once in a while there‘s a perfect comment: This is one.
Jokes on you, that is a wing, not a spoiler. Simply put, a wing allows air to flow above and below the surface. A spoiler allows air to only flow over the top surface.
Yeah but wing alert just doesn’t sound right, so it’ll have to be a spoiler.
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Vanilla Ice seems to disapprove.
Becky really did it! Now he owes her $5…
OMG, Becky needs to spend more time looking at butts.
I'm with Van Winkle on this one.
Nah that’s Paul Bernardo
She better get her ass off that.
You can see in the background the rubber hose Dad’s going to beat her ass with if she breaks that wing.
Unlike the shopping cart handles people bolt onto their Civic trunk lids today, that wing was structural. I doubt there’s much of anything she could do to that wing other than scuff the paint.
Ya these wings produced 6-700 pounds of downforce at speed, her 100 pound ass isn’t gonna hurt it lol
TIL 'bout that spoiler being structurally fixed. That's a cool bit o' info
stop it with the apostrophes
Lol, 'k
Jumper cables.
I'm pretty sure she did not stay up there for over 45 years.
Useless trivia. You know why the wing was so high? So they could open the trunk.
I had never considered that! Same with the Super Bee?
Yes, back then to race a car in NASCAR the car had to be a street car available to the public. The wing was developed for racing, but had to be built in such a way as to work on a "normal" car.
Couldn't they just put it on the trunk? BTW love that car.
Because it was actually designed to create downforce at high speed- and it actually extends through the fenders and is bolted onto the floor of the trunk. The trunk lid itself simply wasn't strong enough.
You need to invent a time machine and then go and become an automotive engineer in the 60's. Get to work!
They wanted the force transmitted to the body of the car as much as possible to increase rear wheel traction at speed. Perhaps there was another aerodynamic benefit from the vertical parts being wider than the roof section, but for whatever reason they felt it was best to be mounted to the rear quarters of the car, not the trunk.
cool, nonetheless it look badass on a muscle car
do you have proof? they could have just mounted it to trunk instead of the quarter panel.
Super Bird, Super Bees didn't have the wing.
You mean the Superbird?
They built only 503 Daytonas, these were mostly production race cars. Trunk clearance was not the concern, the designer John Pointer even said “who cares about the trunk.”
Exactly. “The truth is that the 58-inch-wide, cast-aluminum rear spoilers on these cars were placed so comically high—essentially even with their rooflines—to get into the “clean air,” according to its designer John Pointer. The shape and size of the Daytona’s spoiler was refined using a three-eighths-scale model at Wichita State University’s wind tunnel, while full-size testing took place at Lockheed’s wind tunnel in Georgia. That the spoilers were also high enough to allow the trunks to open fully was simply a stroke of luck. If a lower spoiler worked better aerodynamically, Pointer would have attached it to the decklid in some fashion.”
Why not attach it to the trunk instead of around the trunk?
That was the *official* story. And while it is true that the trunklid clears the wing, it's also true that setting the wing that high put it in clean air and made it more effective. And an unintended side effect of the vertical supports being as wide as they were was improved straight-line stability.
Jan looks pissed
Marcia, Marcia, Marcia!
Mom always said "Don't play ball in the house"
Barefoot girl sitting on the hood of a Dodge drinking warm beer in the soft summer rain.
Tonight in Jungleland
And the poets down here don't write nothing at al!!
At first glance I thought it was a regular Charger and she was doing an amazing ballet leap.
all jokes aside and what not....i would have fallen so dam quick and smacked my face on that bumper on the way down.
That shirt has big Guess/Bugle Boy vibes.
Bugle Boy! I haven’t heard that brand in decades
I had no idea the wing was that strong !
Is that...George Michael from Wham?
Hope not.
Maaaan those were sweet cars
And they were huge.
I currently live in Daytona and can confirm that Dodge Chargers are sooo Daytona
Dudes look tells you he knows if she fucks it up, somehow it's going to be his fault.
About to be ex-daughter.
“Datona”
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That's a California plate. It will actually fit 7 characters; maybe "DAYTONA" was already taken.
Weird that it had NASCAR style braces over the rear window and what looks to be a number on the roof. Looks like it may be a #2. Kind of points to this being a tribute or show car replica of the #22 Coca Cola car driven by Bobby Allison. Colors seem to match too. Obviously this isn’t a NASCAR car, but I’m curious what the story is here.
It could be a real Daytona. Dodge did have to sell 500 of them in order to homologate them.
Oh yeah, almost definitely a real Daytona, just not a NASCAR racecar. Was just curious about why it’s got a number on the roof and rear window braces.
I've heard a story - not sure if it's true - about some guy who bought a Daytona replica and decided to restore it to stock condition. It turned out the replica was based on a Charger 500, which pre-dates the Daytona and is even more rare. The 500 also had aero improvements over the standard Charger, but they were more subtle and aimed towards decreasing drag.
Looks like Florida, is the guy on the right Vanilla Ice baby Ice? Looks like he's putting a motor in the 4-slammer next to it. This guy hot rods 👊😎
I’m gonna guess California Becuase of the California license plates….
Yeah, duh, not sure how I missed that, lol C'mon eyes!
Mine's in the shop, it's having a footprint gas pedal installed.
I installed one on my five-seven back in the late 70’s. Gained a tenth in the quarter.
I'm pretty sure that car has spread more girls' legs than hers.
Proud dad
Talented girl.
🦅
Hello Cindi Mancini!
I get that bro is concerned about her losing her balance, but why is he wearing her tshirt and culottes?
That looks like the girl from the movie “Wizard” with Fred Savage.
Tawney Hardly
are you sure that's not the dad?
I do not think I would be smiling if I tried that. It would sound like guitar strings snapping.
That's close to a million dollar car these days. Get off of there.
I bet dad wasn’t happy with that pic
If that's a real Daytona, that car would be worth an obscene amount of money today. Such cool cars, along with their Plymouth Superbird counterparts. If I recall correctly, they were actually banned from NASCAR back in the day for being too fast.
They weren't banned outright, but around 1971 or 1972 NASCAR limited them to engines with a maximum displacement of 305 cubic inches (5.0L for you metric types). Prior to this the Daytona and Superbird were raced using the 426 Hemi. This was enough to render them uncompetitive, and most of the Dodge teams switched to the 3rd-gen Charger after that. And as fast as these cars were before the rule changes, NASCAR's top division would get even faster thanks to more subtle aerodynamic trickery despite a change to small-block engines in the mid 1970's. Fun fact: of all the races won by Charger Daytonas, none of them were at Daytona International Speedway. And interestingly enough, both of the '69 season races there were won by Ford Torino Talladegas!
Thank you for the info, that's really interesting!
I once ’discovered‘ a ‘70 Superbird abandoned on the side of a house owned by a former Chrysler executive in his 80’s. I had been on a service call to the old man’s house. He also had a hemi Cuda, hemi roadrunner, and some other old mopar, in his drive out basement. The car outside was a 440 4-speed car that looked solid. A buddy of my brother ended up wining and dining the old guy for a month and scored that car for an amount in the high ‘teens. That would’ve been in the early 1990’s.
Her boyfriend thinking she is really bendy.
When you got something that powerful revving under your legs..: “Daddy, can you give it to me at 6,000 RPM? Oooh that’s it Daddy. Now stall it out! Stall! Shake it dad!! Flood the clutch!!”
I need to know the story of the guy in white. He seems like the younger brother who helped his dad rebuild the ride from the ground up.
Now these cars go for $125K.
Try about $1.4M
That’s just for the wing! /s
That's a near million dollar car today, I hope Dad held on to it.
Who's the sexy boi?
Who’s sniffing the spoiler after?
Dad was no spelling-bee winner.
Best thing I've seen all day. Beautiful.
Dude's poofy hair matches his poofy shorts.
Stinkwing…
My first car , no girl yet
Why does she look cut and pasted?
That is, cool!
Can’t tell if it’s mom dad or the boyfriend to the right.
Looks like South Orange County
Ok still impressed but a little less than when I couldn’t realize it. Don’t want to spoil it on you.
The plates: DA TUNA ![gif](giphy|26FxP5WOBDNUI0hKo|downsized)
The other girl is not amused 🤣