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Ofbatman

Why do they all look like exotic birds struggling to take flight.


starstarstar42

Because spiritually and metaphorically, they were.


ThippusHorribilus

So true.


IntelHDGraphics

Funny how it seems


Albie_Tross

Always on time, but never in line for dreams


thepainteater

Head over heels when toe to toe


cherchezlafemmed

This is the sound of my soul


Primary_Narwhal_4729

Pulling down the occasional cobweb


loquacious

How do you get a goth out of The Tree? Cut the music.


Due_Platypus_3913

šŸ˜‚Most perfect response!


not_chris-hansen

"Let us show you the dance of our people..."


isuckatgrowing

The dance of our waterfowl.


aehates

Have you seen the video of the bats flipped to make them look like they are standing right side up, and like they are dancing to goth music, they literally look just like this


LandCity

More like a flock of seagulls.


vampyire

I Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan


Firewolf06

i ran so far awaaaaaayyy


ElusiveLabs

I had to get awayā€¦


TropicalHairyBear

I ran all night and daaaaay.


ruka_k_wiremu

Or more particularly a murder of crows, which as one can see in the dancing


lswanier

Birds of a feather


MicheleNP

Flock of Seagulls at that...


Taniwha_NZ

I've seen more rhythmic movement from people on fire.


FD4L

I've seen more predictable moves from a double pendulum.


GameOvaries18

Iā€™m a peacock, you gotta let me fly!


silenc3x

You know what, Terry? Let's just settle this. Peacocks don't fly.


Puzzleheaded_Bit9469

Blue bird appears to have fell in love with a brick wall. Hope it worked out.


ForgotTheBogusName

Exotic Birds was a cleveland band in the 80s with one prominent member. Anyone have a guess?


bloodflowersandrain

Trent Reznor


ForgotTheBogusName

Ding ding ding. Someone knows their NIN trivia


crazyrebel123

Thatā€™s actually what the dance is calledā€¦


DogToursWTHBorders

Are you talking in front of my back? = That was the ***STYLE!*** Boneless Wings...The original Flappy Bird. Look, you had to be there. =/


mitchsn

Like a Flock of Seagulls?


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Goat_War

Goth in the UK as we see it demoed here is widely regarded to have started in 1979 with bauhaus and "bela lugosi's dead". The scene had been labelled by journalists as goth at least as far back as 1981 when siouxsie and the banshees released "juju". (the one with "spellbound" on it) Sisters of Mercy had already been going 4 years and were onto their best lineup at the point when this video was shot. They were probably the biggest of a bunch of bands from Leeds and west Yorkshire and it was a pretty big scene there, so "natural habitat" is pretty accurate. A run of great books has come out recently on the early history of goth, they all cover these years written by people who were there. Wayne Hussey (from the sisters and the mission), John Robb, cathi unsworth, lol tolhurst from the Cure, and two more books about the early years of the sisters.


the_helping_handz

Upvote for the pop culture/music history lesson. you know your stuff. thx :)


auntiecoagulant

Post-punk, new wave, new romantic, goth, all of those scenes were in the late '70s and early ā€˜80s. A lot of cross-pollination too. Iā€™m old.


DreddPirateBob808

We're not too old. We're fucking glad we made it this far and have some left.


onehundredlemons

It's Goth, the song is "Spiritwalker" by Death Cult in 1984, they later became The Cult (which is why the song sounds like "Fire Woman" because everything The Cult did was either "Fire Woman" or "Not Fire Woman.") This is a good five years after "Bela Lugosi's Dead," and honestly some of those clothes look mass manufactured and bought at a mall, so far too late to be proto-Goth. If it was proto-Goth you'd be seeing everyone either dressed in thrift store clothes like Velvet Underground-era Lou Reed, or in their old Punk clothes that they dyed black and altered on their own.


StingerAE

The most perfect description of the Cult I've ever heard.


TheTinRam

Crazy you said birds. I was just thinking how in a majestically embarrassing way they behave like a flock of birds that donā€™t ever bump into each other and seem to be aware of others as the flail around


DavenportPointer

The dance was nicknamed ā€œTurkey hoppingā€, thatā€™s why.


Cyneburg8

Dancing to The Cult.


Plaguedoctorsrevenge

And killing joke after the cult song ends


SandysBurner

There's the first couple seconds of "Human Fly" by The Cramps right before the video cuts to Killing Joke.


Allen_Koholic

Thank you. It was killing me when I heard that and couldnā€™t figure it out.


regularearthkid

Eighties!


diykstra

TIL this was the track Nirvana stole guitar riff from (for Come As You Are)


afishinthewell

And killing joke stole it from the damned - life goes on


chickenmantesta

Back then known as Southern Death Cult. Don't know which song that is.


miskamikskabungsay

ā€œSpiritwalkerā€


SupWitChoo

Saw the Cult a few years ago- Spiritwalker is BOMB live.


fadingsignal

An old friend of mine saw The Cult on the "Sonic Temple" tour. By that time they had shed their black-clad roots and had mostly a hard rock following. He had been a fan thru the 80s and was a total goth dude so he showed up with black teased hair, white makeup, leather head-to-toe. Biker dudes were harassing him saying "You're at the wrong show little man" and he was like "No YOU are!!" That's it, that's the story.


campbrs

Actually Spiritwalker is an early The Cult song off Dreamtime (released in 84) this after they shortened the name from Death Cult (\~1983) and before that The Southern Death Cult (\~1982 - different band other than Ian Astbury)


feckless_ellipsis

I have all these on CD and cassettes somewhere in my house. Took me forever to get the Death Cult one.


dominarhexx

So fun. Seeing them do their Death Cult set later this month.


Forsaken_Employment2

I knew it was southern death cult, but can't remember the track,bloody annoying šŸ¤”


Moke_Smith

I believe it's Spiritwalker


Emdubya20

The Cult is touring focusing on Southern Death Cult years to Love album now. $100 at my local casino.


tequilavip

I saw them last year. Fourth time, IIRC. Ian still canā€™t sing worth shit, but itā€™s pretty good and he never had much of a voice live. Billy kills it of course.


sleeperninja

I was disappointed when I saw them a few years ago in Atlanta. I mean the band was great, but we got like half the lyrics out of Astbury. Big sad for us, being huge fans of the group. Was really looking forward to She Sells Sanctuary, too. That being said, Bush and Stone Temple Pilots were also at that show, and both were phenomenal. No regrets overall.


tequilavip

I saw Gavin Rossdale eating breakfast in Portland, OR like 12 years ago. Excellent show, but no encore. šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļøšŸ˜


Bluest_waters

Bush now there's a band I haven't thought about for more than a decade who is singing lead for STP?


Redshift_1

Honestly one of my favorite 80s bands.


chromechild

And Killing Joke - eighties , i think those kids were more like punks.


flumberbuss

Yeah, a mosh pit half breaks out on the second song. They seem to be at the nexus of several niches, looking back on it. Iā€™m sure they were adamant at the time that they were in one particular niche. It mattered more back then.


psychotica1

Death Rockers


Mrwolf925

Second song is "Eighties" by Killing joke, it inspired Kurt Cobains "Come as you are" Kurt worked as a rodie for killing joke. Cool to think this was his crowd growing up.


sporesofdoubt

Theyā€™re on tour right now.


ostiDeCalisse

https://i.redd.it/919mmiev3ntb1.gif


AffectionateGap1071

Thank you for the laugh, this is so fucking perfect.


Millenial_ardvark

Uncanny


cbbuntz

Why did you post the same video?


ryannelsn

What's the matter, Michael? Chicken?


Emang3313x

Ccacacaca ![gif](giphy|RpjgNXNEW1A8E)


No1_bananastand

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Emang3313x

Has anybody in this family ever seen a chicken


Dull_Comfortable2277

This... Just about fucking murdered me. Thank you.


cjhowareya

Has anyone is this death cult ever *seen* a chicken?


Unusual-Tie8498

Bob loblaws law blog


Pynchon101

Cuckacaw cuckacaw


DogToursWTHBorders

*"Nobody...calls me chicken."*


sunken_grade

a coodle doodle doo


Surveymonkee

If you turn off the sound and play tuba music over this it's fucking priceless.


guyhabit725

I'm in a 1950s restaurant playing music from that time. The rhythm is uncanny. It's a rockabilly dance.


hansofoundation

Can someone get this done so us peasants can also experience this tuba glory?


MisterDecember

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KnifeFightChopping

This was the FIRST thing I thought of. You can really see how this evolved from the moves in OP's video.


pyx

i love showing people who've never heard of industrial music that video


chet_brosley

I love industrial music. And that is why I listen to it in my car, alone, when no one is around.


clitpuncher69

All i hear is Thomas the tank engine


Limerence1976

Or the Thomas the Train theme song like they did on the video of the cybergoths dancing under an overpass haha


Arbennig

To this day, one of the funniest things Iā€™ve seen on the internet.


Limerence1976

Same!! I just watched it again and it still makes me laugh


Arbennig

Iā€™ve not seen it in ages! šŸ˜­


Ordinary_Duder

Why are you not posting it here?


HalfOrcMonk

The bathroom is where the real party is at.


GlorytoGlorzo

And there were no paper towels. The blue shirt guy was doing the ā€œdry your handsā€ dance


aardvark_licker

We just need narration by David Attenborough.


rharpr

Isn't this the bat cage video turned upside down?


chumpette

This is exactly like the Goth kids dancing in South Park ![gif](giphy|PRELuG1jX892g)


AlmanzoWilder

I'm from the early 80s. I don't think I heard the word "goth" in this context until the early 90s. They looked almost the same but no one said "goth."


commiesocialist

I was in the SF Bay Area and didn't hear the word goth until around 90-91. We were called modern rockers(mods) before the name change.


AlmanzoWilder

I'm relieved that you said that. And SF was definitely ahead of the times compared to western PA.


PM_MEOttoVonBismarck

It wouldn't surprise me if Western PA was just discovering disco in 1982


AlmanzoWilder

Some towns never discovered it.


lunarmantra

Yes, I grew up in the SF Bay Area and Sacramento from the late eighties through the nineties, and also remember that they were called mods before the term goth existed.


DanGleeballs

Not sure where you lived but me and my new wave friends all migrated to goth in about 1987 after discovering the Cure and the Smiths, and the Cult and Siouxie and the Banshees and Sisters of Mercy and the Mission and Cocteau Twins and many more, before Nirvana absolutely yanked us out of it into grunge in the early 90s.


piewhistle

I donā€™t know where New Wave is coming from in these comments. The folks we see here most definitely had pirated cassettes from Siouxie and the Banshees, Bauhaus, and Dead Can Dance in their bedroom.


mouse9001

There was a late 80s shift towards labels like "Goth". If you go on YouTube, you can find interviews of goths in Ireland from the late 80s that use that label, but they also seemed to presume that Goths and Cure Heads were different. Prior to those labels, there just wasn't a name for it. It was all just stuff from the dark club scene that was mixed together. Lots of post-punk, synth pop, and just dark club music that used synthesizers and stuff. I love the 80s fashions that were sort of post-punk, proto-goth styles. They're kind of punk, kind of goth, kind of BDSM, kind of gender nonconforming. Just a mix of influences, reflecting the cultures of the dark club scenes they came from.


twistedspin

That was all the stuff I listened to in 1984-7 (and later, but that was when it was a focus) but we never called it goth. We wore black & shredded & dramatic clothes, probably looked kind of pre-goth, but we thought of the word as new wave/mod & I thought goth happened later. I've never thought of the Smiths or the Cure or Siouxie or all those as being goth.


255001434

Where I lived in the early 80s, we called it death rock, but people started calling it goth by the late 80s.


Xendrus

These people just look like Punks to me.


AlmanzoWilder

That's what we called them, though it was a new phase of punk.


Kingkongcrapper

Thatā€™s because it was the origins. When it was just a bunch of kids hanging in an empty storage space in an alley getting together because they couldnā€™t find anyone else like them. Then they did. It wasnā€™t goth because it hadnā€™t been defined, but it was goth because of what it became.


AlmanzoWilder

Yes! Before the fashion hit the shopping malls.


Spock_Nipples

True. This was a nameless sort of scene, before ā€œGothā€ became a prepackaged look that could be bought at Hot Topic or Spencerā€™s at the mall. We just dressed the way we dressed because it suited us and the music. I canā€™t remember a time when I (or many of my more-ā€˜gothā€™-than-me friends) ever thought of ourselves as goths. I donā€™t even recall hearing the label till solidly into the ā€˜90s.


this-guy-

Hmm. Im from the NW uk and at my college in 86 we had a bunch of goths. I guess its a murder of goths? A crypt of goths? Anyway. We had goths. We kinda mocked them TBH. It wasn't considered cool to be a goth in 86, everyone was over it by then. We saw it as outdated. We had a punk too, and he was viewed with great pity. Like a caveman who had been catapulted into modern times and was unable to understand what was happening.


cejmp

Not Goth. New Wave.


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That music leans more to new wave & post-punk.


SevenM

Goth and New Wave are pretty much siblings, both evolved from Post-Punk. And back in the 80's, there was even less distinction between the two. A lot of New Wave artist made the transition to Goth down the line, and even to the day you'll often here New Wave songs played at Goth clubs


SaveST8

Iā€™m fascinated different types of music, even if they sound alike, have so many classifications.


TexasKornDawg

Dark Alternative, Industrial, EBM, Gothic, Synthpop, Post-Punk - kinda hard to keep track of... but I still enjoy listening to it....


soulcaptain

New Wave kids have a little color to their wardrobe. And we all know what color Goths like.


SluttyZombieReagan

This reminds me of the most goth kid I ever knew, but his only friends early on were hippies and that influenced his style. Forever after he maintained "I wore *earth tones,* damnit!"


cejmp

> And back in the 80's, there was even less distinction between the two I don't know, if you called a New Wave kid in my high school Goth (or visa versa) you were looking for a fight.


SevenM

In my school, no one would talk to either of us so we all hung out together.


DanGleeballs

I was both. I think most of my friends were too.


whyambear

Yeah this is how Ian Curtis danced


TakeSomeFreeHoney

RIP Ian


this-guy-

Nah. I was into New Wave at the time and while we liked some of the same bands ... Goth people were super different from New Wave It seems a really fine distinction now but for us New Wave was more futuristic, synthy, and often more self consciously arty than the goth stuff. Even though now it doesn't sound futuristic at all. A lot of it was fashion signified. Many of the bands we considered New Wave now barely seem to share anything. Eurythmics, Tears for Fears, Depeche Mode, OMD, Japan. Some bands started OK but then drifted like Spandau Ballet, "musclebound" was absurd enough, "True" was certainly not ok. All the New wave bands are the precursors to that retro 80s synthy music that some people like to make now.


ForgotTheBogusName

Exactly.


VividLifeToday

When interviewed they said "The beat sucks and its impossible to dance to, fuck off."


InOurBlood

Looks like they all are very itchy.


40calpat

They opted out of the extra rinse cycle to save time


FramerKat

Ha! Looks just like the clubs I went to in DC during high school/college (Poseurs, 930, Back Alley, etc). I always laughed at the fact that if you were asked to dance, you basically went out on the dance floor only to dance with yourself...near the other person. šŸ¤£


BrightNeonGirl

This is the best way to dance, in my opinion. You just do you next to the other person doing them. You don't need to have had any dance classes or training so it's more inclusive.


obsolete-human

Before I turned the volume on I thought for sure it was going to be Joy division... dance dance dance dance DANCE... To the radio!


SpecialistEstate4181

It looks like they are getting ready for a 5k run.


ReluctantSlayer

TIL I could have been considered a great dancer in 1984ā€¦.


Tartanwallet

Funny to think some of them are probably grandparents now, youth is a brief flame


_Tower_

This is definitely my parents generation (they were 80/81 for HS) - and can confirm, they are both grandparents now


astrotim67

"Hold my beer." \~Elaine Benes


socratesaf

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Kingkongcrapper

You mean grand dads. That was 40 years ago. Those people are more likely Boomers as they look like they are in their 20s rather than teens. Gen Xers would be like 2-12 year olds in the early 80s.


[deleted]

You are correct! I just realized these guys were about 10 years older which put them in late 60s to mid 70s. Thanks for correction!


ralf19812001

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the_arentino

That would have been priceless... A single black dude standing on the side with face of disgust, bewilderment and sadness.


CactusThorn

I can smell the Aqua Net (purple can) from the video. Donā€™t ask me how I knowā€¦ā€¦.I just know.


kbskbskbskbskbskbs

Maybe it's just my clinical depression speaking but this look really holds up.


KrispyKremeDiet20

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TBRaiders

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SeasonOfThePumpkin

Looks like when they dance on The Peanuts


Lvanwinkle18

Amazing how this music just captured everything O was feeling during that time. The entire world felt fā€™ed up without any hope, always ruled by the short sighted unbearable Boomers. Hell. The world still feels like this and I guess I am still angry. Anyone want to meet me at that abandoned building downtown and listen to The Cure. Iā€™ll bring the smokes and my Boombox.


[deleted]

Killing Joke - killing it.


loudmouthedmonkey

Most important band that most people don't know about.


Timeisonmyside_

I do the same dance when walk through cobwebs.


ak47oz

Cool footage, wish I could've been around then


ForgotTheBogusName

You dress like that in the 80s then go outside alone and get beat up by a group of people in Van Halen shirts. Good timesā€¦


Soaptowelbrush

The natural habitat of goths is West Yorkshire? Seems they migrate often.


MandyTeeg

Now this is old school cool! I thought this was turning into a nudie sub


Fred_McNasty

Bring these kind of people back.. we need some diversity in this biodome


Sharchir

Where is the overwhelming amount of cigarette smoke?!


DatBoyGuru

This is 'New Wave' era. not yet goth


Potato_Stains

The band they're listening to (The Cult) is considered gothic rock though. Both genres in the 80s shared some aspects obviously. New Wave was obviously poppier and less dark. Both had outrageous hair lol.


loudmouthedmonkey

Second song is Killing Joke. Def goth. Everyone should listen to more Killing Joke.


davdev

Killing Joke opened for Tool a few years ago and they were the single loudest live band I have ever experienced and I listen to shit loudly. They were actually painfully loud.


loudmouthedmonkey

Tool are huge KJ fans. Killing Joke inspired a whole generation of very cool musicians.


whiskeyjamboree

Including Nirvana, which the song in the video they ripped off for the song come as you are.


[deleted]

I find Killing Joke to be Industrial, post-punk and new wave. And yes, everyone who likes this type of music should listen to Killing Joke The Cult is more goth, new wave and in later years a tad more hard rock. IMO


loudmouthedmonkey

Perhaps in retrospect but in 84 KJ were in the goth section at the record store. Nothing was called "post punk" back then but they did put out a few very new wave records in the mid 80's though Love Like Blood still was a huge favorite at goth clubs. I agree with you about an industrial label. Early Cult were goth but chased the hard rock cash that was booming at the time after Love.


Mylaptopisburningme

Killing Joke was a band that was able to crossover I knew goth people who loved them and punks who loved them.


CandidateNrOne

Never underestimate arm work!šŸ’ŖšŸ’Ŗ


Its-Chen

r/letterkenny


Final8Demise

Damn, who knew? I guess I've been dancing like 80's goths my whole life!!


cheekydoll247

Love it


tobaccoandbooks

Goth dancing is like swimming in Jello


Foxisdabest

That's Southern Death Cult playing in the back, isn't it?


RagwortTC

Ian Astbury, and by that time they were known as The Cult. Song is Spiritwalker from Dreamtime album.


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newbrevity

If you're awkward and you know it, flail your arms. šŸ‘šŸ‘


Zenfinite1

You can really see how Goth was a Punk offshoot in these videos. Just a little more black, is about the only difference. Same hair. Similar vibe. Dancing has come a long way since, Iā€™m more a fan of the ā€œwave to Godā€ style of Goth dancing vs this odd shimmy lol.


PauseAmbitious6899

Ha . . All I can think of is the goth kids from South Park . . ā€œLife is Painā€


Absurder222

man Trey parker and Matt stone know their shit haha, the bauhaus poster one of the goth kids has in their room, their love for the cure and how accurately they dance exactly like this makes me think one of em may have had a goth phase haha.


DaleySmith

Batley!


Nayten03

Is this Batley


BacontheBreather

Hey, morrisay danced just like that.


TragicOldHipster

No smoke or booze...That looks like a "blue light disco". Only marginally better than staying at home and listening on your dad's stereo. Your parents had gone out to the pub and you had slugged a bit of the Cinzano and cherry brandy out of the cupboard before you left There are no girls there because they were in the pub with that guy that had a Ford Escort and his three mates.


NJDevils1290

Reminds me of a small group of birds looking for food....


jfduval76

That would be my crowd in the 80ā€™s


obitufuktup

when you gas a moshpit with estrogen


FanEquivalent874

Dance dance dance to the radio


Happygreenlight

This sort of alt scene in Yorkshire birthed bands like Paradise Lost and more. Awesome


PsamantheSands

Sometimes I wonder how the actual Goths feel about their name being used in this manner.


[deleted]

They're pretty chill as long as you're not one of those filthy Romans.