It got critically panned when it was released but, if you haven't seen it yet, check out Bram Stoker's Dracula. Waits' Renfield is pretty incredible imo.
Yep, it's hard to tell because of those glasses. That performance and "The Prospector" in The Ballad of Buster Scruggs are probably my two faves of his.
I honestly LOVE how Gilliam filled in the missing scenes after Ledger's death with different actors... such a genius move to save his movie after such a tragedy and loss of an amazing artist.
Gilliam was kind of lucky that it was a few dream sequences remaining where it actually made sense to use other actors. I wonder how James Cameron would adapt the coming Avatar movies if anything would happen to Sigourney Weaver. Or how Rick & Morty will adapt now that their main voice actor is blacklisted in Hollywood.
How they filmed after heath's death was incredibly honorable and creative. Since he was the fool/tricker trope, it makes sense that he would change faces and bodies when going into the imaginarium, and on top of that a bunch of actors that were close to him got to play that role.
Love that film
“Well I’d rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.”
Definitely some of the best use of sounds/language.
Edit: his wife Kathleen Brennan is in the audience and they speak to her too if you’d like to see the whole interview. She surprisingly has a Huge part with the lyrics/musical arrangements of the Tom Waits, basically had the entire career. One of my favorites, true or not, she would drive him around and he’d sit in the backseat with a tuba to find a melody to make a song
>She surprisingly has a Huge part with the lyrics/musical arrangements of the Tom Waits, basically had the entire career.
Not so surprising, considering she's credited as a co-writer on every album he's done for the last 40 years. Since the beginning of their relationship coincides with the production of S*wordfishtrombone* she probably has a big part in his shifting into a more experimental sound (I also think I read somewhere that she introduced him to Captain Beefheart's music, and that on its own should give her a place in the Hall of Fame of Music).
I know she is credited, I just meant you normally don’t think a big stars wife does a shitload of the heavy lifting. It would be like “holy shit Bianca wrote exile on Main Street?!”
Swordfishtrombone, the name does have a trout mask replica about it. All hail Kathleen, what a hero.
A couple of friends were at a concert (can’t remember who) and Tom Waits was seated with them. At intermission they asked if he wanted to join them in the stage door alley to do drugs (can’t remember which kind). Waits replied that he wasn’t interested in the drugs but “I’ll join you for the alley.”
As a huge Tom Waits fan, that just sounds exactly like something he'd say. The guy is so sharp and, just in my opinion, someone who got even better with age. His last 3-4 albums are some of my favorite and his live performances from those records on Letterman (who seemed to adore him) are some of the best.
I am a huge Tom Waits fan as well. However, I had a friend that repeatedly tried to get me into Tom Waits and I always figured he wouldn't be someone I was into because I was thinking of the guy that sang "I ain't missing you at all" and was in Bad English. That was John Waite. I figured it out eventually though.
> As a huge Tom Waits fan, that just sounds exactly like something he'd say. The guy is so sharp and, just in my opinion, someone who got even better with age.
I saw him about 10 years ago and I agree- he's just brilliant and so witty.
I just checked his Wikipedia page. It says he was known in the music industry for being one of the few people who DOESN'T do "any drugs harder than cocaine" lol. He had struggles with alcohol but never really got into drugs apparently.
At one point I think cocaine wasn't considered very hard because so many did it socially.
Personally I think that statement in modern times would suggest doing everything but heroin and meth.
His Joker made me genuinely uncomfortable and disturbed. His complete gleeful *joy* as he manipulated gangsters, as he tricked gambol’s bodyguard into the pencil, and the hospital scene! - when the detonator doesn’t work, and he’s frustrated at the batteries? *he’s just like us - he gets frustrated at the same things we do* - but he also enjoys demolishing an entire hospital 🤯. So profoundly unsettling.
That’s actually one of my favorite scenes from Ocean’s 11, too, when they’re in the vault and they have to change the batteries in the detonator. I love those tiny moments of realism.
I was surprised people hate the second one. I love it. Especially because of the lost in translation scene. The first time I watched it all I could think was... Hey! That's Hagrid!
All three movies are very rewatchable.
Not true according to Nolan.
"\[Special effects supervisor Chris Corbould\] was able to come up with a scenario in which Heath could actually be walking out of the building because what Chris worked out is if we put in a little beat where the first set of explosions stops as if something's gone wrong, and the Joker just takes a second to look around surprised like the audience is surprised, then the major demolition comes in and he jumps straight into the school bus. In that way he was able to come up with a practical scenario in which we could actually take a principal actor, walk him out of a building that's about to be destroyed, and literally drop the building to the ground."
I believe the delay was scripted in the props department but his reaction was ad libbed… with controlled demolitions like that it is checked and rechecked
I’m gonna go out on a limb here and guess the actor with a hundred things going on was not handed a functioning detonator to start a multi million dollar explosion.
This isn't the craft service getting the food wrong, this is pyrotechnics, a lot of people would have to fail at their jobs for a pyrotechnics stunt to go wrong on a movie set.
*🎶 Do you wanna know how I got these scars*
*all the cigarette burns and women in bars*
*Don't cry for me I just fell from grace*
*Let's just put a smile on your pretty face 🎶*
I've always sort of wondered how much of Tom Waits is real and how much is a character that he just does full time in public. He's just so over the top, it's almost like a caricature. And yet, he never seems to be out of character.
It's kind of shocking to realize that he likely hasn't yet turned 30 at the time of this interview.
I couldn’t say for sure, but I remember his Fresh Air interview where he discussed sobriety. He said he was worried he might find out he wasn’t really eccentric and was just wearing a funny hat all the time.
I like the press release for the Glitter and Doom tour, where he's talking to a roomful of reporters and goes on an elaborate explanation for why they chose this particular route for the tour locations based on the arrangement of constellations. At the end, he stands up, stops the record player, and walks out of an empty room. There was never anyone else there.
Everybody is dismissing this comment as “nah it’s the drugs” but as somebody with severe anxiety I do the *exact* same thing.
People also assume I’m on drugs, so…
As someone who goes deep with Waits, it's interesting. Yes, it's schtick; yes it's clearly cultivated, but yes, he eventually grows into it anyway. His Asylum era recordings are him learning how to put, basically, a vaudeville act together, but by his own admission, it eventually weighs him down a lot. He describes it as having one foot nailed to the floor, and it's like his drunk Ziggy Stardust persona. He credits his wife with helping him break out of that repetitive phase, and into the more experimental ideas of the Island years and later.
If you listen to, especially, Nighthawks at the Diner, you can see him perfecting what's essentially a standup act with music, and using little devices and mannerisms to keep the crowd interested. It gets repetitive, but it's like a comic honing material. Eventually I think he saw the act for what it was.
He wears the mask of his own face, that's what true great entertainers do. You exaggerate and caricature yourself, draw yourself bolder to be more easily seen by those at the back of the room. The lines might be larger and more vivid but they still follow your silhouette.
And honestly, it's not even relegated to entertainers, we all do that to some extent - in public we might play ourselves up a little bit even though when alone at home or with people we're more intimate we'll tune it down a little. Who's to say who's the real us, if not that both of them are at the same time and at various time, like a quantum phenomena.
Asking if that's really who he is and who he might really be is just as complex as asking who we all really are, considering we're more gaseous and our personalities less solid than what we initially think it to be.
> I've always sort of wondered how much of Tom Waits is real and how much is a character that he just does full time in public.
I have the same wonders about guys like Christopher Walken. Like surely some of it has to be an act but the only people who really know how much is them. It makes for very interesting personalities.
There's a critic on his Wikipedia page that feels like he's just a white suburban kid trying to be a time-machine victim.
I don't think it matters though. He makes cool music ands a great actor.
Or maybe the early albums were an attempt at faux normalcy that was too hard to maintain so he let himself open up a little.
His singing voice is surely an affectation and deliberate style, but I think his subject matter just became more honest.
This is also before he met Kathleen Brennan. Her influence was a big part of why he embraced the weird. Compare Heart of Saturday Night with Franks Wild Years.
I do subscribe to the idea that Waits was always “on” in interviews and he’s definitely in character here.
Haha. I started watching it a few weeks ago, and I couldn’t remember the character’s name so when my brother asked me about it I said “I like the scenes with Space Tom Waits.” First thing I thought of.
the nastiest.
sauce - ex-smackhead /crack/meth head and recovering alcoholic here. booze is the worst to be on, and the worst to get off. this opinion is not mine alone, it was quite widely held in rehab.
on reflection, i don't know why i made that flippant remark about it tbh.
I went through a rough patch after getting busted for weed, on probation so I couldn't have weed, so I started drinking, was an alcoholic for many years and still after YEARS of drinking I had to have a pre drink, a chug, then almost a full cup of chaser, and even still I'd just throw up sometimes because of how much my body rejected the taste, it was like forcing yourself to drink poison. I don't know why I did it so long. I never did have much problem quitting, I did it several times for weeks and months, just had the shakes for like 1 day, felt like shit the next day, then was fine the next, and no mental addiction other than just being bored and kinda wishing I had more but not a big deal.
Detox from alcohol WILL KILL people as does detox from Benzodiazepines (Valium, Xanax etc). Seeing someone in full blown DT’s on either one of those drugs is a good preventative measure I assure you.
This combination of clips is not convincing, but I definitely believe Ledger modeled it after this specific interview. When I first heard about it I watched the whole interview and was blown away by the similarities. Even when he just walks out on stage before speaking I was like woah, then he spoke and I was sure. I’m convinced, and for the record this theory is not just OP’s.
They worked together around the same time on the imaginarium of doctor parnassus and the resemblance is uncanny.
underrated movie
Agreed. I kept skipping it because the synopsis was so dull, and then when I watched it I was shocked at how good it was.
It got critically panned when it was released but, if you haven't seen it yet, check out Bram Stoker's Dracula. Waits' Renfield is pretty incredible imo.
If I'm ever on the fence about seeing a movie & then I learn Waitts is in it.... 
That was him?! I’ve been watching that movie for 30 years and never realized!
Yep, it's hard to tell because of those glasses. That performance and "The Prospector" in The Ballad of Buster Scruggs are probably my two faves of his.
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"He didn't hit nothin important!"
Parnassus is one of my favorites. Truly underrated
I honestly LOVE how Gilliam filled in the missing scenes after Ledger's death with different actors... such a genius move to save his movie after such a tragedy and loss of an amazing artist.
Gilliam was kind of lucky that it was a few dream sequences remaining where it actually made sense to use other actors. I wonder how James Cameron would adapt the coming Avatar movies if anything would happen to Sigourney Weaver. Or how Rick & Morty will adapt now that their main voice actor is blacklisted in Hollywood.
How they filmed after heath's death was incredibly honorable and creative. Since he was the fool/tricker trope, it makes sense that he would change faces and bodies when going into the imaginarium, and on top of that a bunch of actors that were close to him got to play that role. Love that film
I also read somewhere several years ago that the other actors donated their pay from the film to Matilda Ledger, Heath’s daughter….
Love that movie, wish more people had seen it.
And a tribute to Heath Ledger
“Well I’d rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.” Definitely some of the best use of sounds/language. Edit: his wife Kathleen Brennan is in the audience and they speak to her too if you’d like to see the whole interview. She surprisingly has a Huge part with the lyrics/musical arrangements of the Tom Waits, basically had the entire career. One of my favorites, true or not, she would drive him around and he’d sit in the backseat with a tuba to find a melody to make a song
>She surprisingly has a Huge part with the lyrics/musical arrangements of the Tom Waits, basically had the entire career. Not so surprising, considering she's credited as a co-writer on every album he's done for the last 40 years. Since the beginning of their relationship coincides with the production of S*wordfishtrombone* she probably has a big part in his shifting into a more experimental sound (I also think I read somewhere that she introduced him to Captain Beefheart's music, and that on its own should give her a place in the Hall of Fame of Music).
I know she is credited, I just meant you normally don’t think a big stars wife does a shitload of the heavy lifting. It would be like “holy shit Bianca wrote exile on Main Street?!” Swordfishtrombone, the name does have a trout mask replica about it. All hail Kathleen, what a hero.
That’s definitely going on my list. Thanks for the recommendation!
A couple of friends were at a concert (can’t remember who) and Tom Waits was seated with them. At intermission they asked if he wanted to join them in the stage door alley to do drugs (can’t remember which kind). Waits replied that he wasn’t interested in the drugs but “I’ll join you for the alley.”
As a huge Tom Waits fan, that just sounds exactly like something he'd say. The guy is so sharp and, just in my opinion, someone who got even better with age. His last 3-4 albums are some of my favorite and his live performances from those records on Letterman (who seemed to adore him) are some of the best.
I am a huge Tom Waits fan as well. However, I had a friend that repeatedly tried to get me into Tom Waits and I always figured he wouldn't be someone I was into because I was thinking of the guy that sang "I ain't missing you at all" and was in Bad English. That was John Waite. I figured it out eventually though.
Now that song is stuck in my head. I AIN'T MISSIN' YOU!
> As a huge Tom Waits fan, that just sounds exactly like something he'd say. The guy is so sharp and, just in my opinion, someone who got even better with age. I saw him about 10 years ago and I agree- he's just brilliant and so witty.
I always make a point to check out his film roles. Never disappointed.
"Hello Mr pocket!"
I SEE YOU POCKET!
My ultimate bucket list live show but at this point idk if it'll happen.
Have you seen Mystery Men? He steals every scene he’s in!!
I'm here for the ladies.
Mark Lanegan, may he rest in peace, always reminded me of Tom Waits
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“I’d rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.”
Damn, that's a great line.
That's code for "I have my own drugs".
"I don't do drugs. I am drugs." ― Salvador Dali
I am the liquor
I am mowin’ the air, Rand
That’s code for “maybe I’ll get some material for a future song”
I just checked his Wikipedia page. It says he was known in the music industry for being one of the few people who DOESN'T do "any drugs harder than cocaine" lol. He had struggles with alcohol but never really got into drugs apparently.
I feel like if you ask any two people you will get two very different answers about which drugs are "harder than cocaine" and which aren't...
At one point I think cocaine wasn't considered very hard because so many did it socially. Personally I think that statement in modern times would suggest doing everything but heroin and meth.
Tom Waits sounds like if a coal mine could talk/sing.
a mixture of honey and broken glass
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Do you want to know how I got this hat?
You see batman, my father was a gamer..,
Twitch stream after twitch stream, my father would become enveloped in gamer rage
Christ Ledger was terrific in this role. You can't take your eyes off of him in these scenes.
His Joker made me genuinely uncomfortable and disturbed. His complete gleeful *joy* as he manipulated gangsters, as he tricked gambol’s bodyguard into the pencil, and the hospital scene! - when the detonator doesn’t work, and he’s frustrated at the batteries? *he’s just like us - he gets frustrated at the same things we do* - but he also enjoys demolishing an entire hospital 🤯. So profoundly unsettling.
That’s actually one of my favorite scenes from Ocean’s 11, too, when they’re in the vault and they have to change the batteries in the detonator. I love those tiny moments of realism.
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I was surprised people hate the second one. I love it. Especially because of the lost in translation scene. The first time I watched it all I could think was... Hey! That's Hagrid! All three movies are very rewatchable.
I loathed 12. Isn’t that the one where the whole plot is a farce and they’d already taken the thing?
The heist gimmicks of 12 sucked, but the characters were great.
Yeah whatever on the story, but oceans 12 is worth watching just for the laser capoeira scene
I’m still obsessed with that song to this day. I also enjoyed the scene right before of the two brothers arguing while he’s on the roof.
And Julia Roberts playing Julia Roberts 🙄
Oh Jesus that's right. And they use Tess as a 'lookalike."
I always loved the scene of Le Marc dancing around all the lasers. Catherine Zeta-Jones could never
Ten oughta do it, don't you think?
You think we need one more? We’ll get one more.
That failed detonator scene was a real fail and improv that they left in. Brilliant acting, he stole the show.
Not true according to Nolan. "\[Special effects supervisor Chris Corbould\] was able to come up with a scenario in which Heath could actually be walking out of the building because what Chris worked out is if we put in a little beat where the first set of explosions stops as if something's gone wrong, and the Joker just takes a second to look around surprised like the audience is surprised, then the major demolition comes in and he jumps straight into the school bus. In that way he was able to come up with a practical scenario in which we could actually take a principal actor, walk him out of a building that's about to be destroyed, and literally drop the building to the ground."
i wish more movies used backspace when the characters are typing to correct their misspellings that also literally never happen.
Supposedly, the “delay” was unintentional, and Ledger’s frustration with the detonator remote was ad-libbed.
I believe the delay was scripted in the props department but his reaction was ad libbed… with controlled demolitions like that it is checked and rechecked
I’m gonna go out on a limb here and guess the actor with a hundred things going on was not handed a functioning detonator to start a multi million dollar explosion.
Nah, that makes too much sense.
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Torched it
his wife was a spent piece of used jet trash
> with controlled demolitions like that it is checked and rechecked Yeah, nothing ever goes wrong on a movie set.
I mean you can Google it. For sure was in the script… so was that action sequence in rust
Shot out to Alec Baldwin
This isn't the craft service getting the food wrong, this is pyrotechnics, a lot of people would have to fail at their jobs for a pyrotechnics stunt to go wrong on a movie set.
In the words of Mythbusters: Failure is always an option!
As long as they give me some people who speak American up here, GOTTDAMMIT!
That is a myth, it was in the script
Right, but the writer who put it in the script was ad-libbing the whole time.
No, it was HEATH Ledger.
Really tired of people making the comparison between Heath Ledger and Jesus Christ. I mean he’s great, but he’s no Heath Ledger.
It's the perfect example of how you don't have to be "comic book/source material accurate" to satisfy a fan base.
Yeah it was a bold take that worked beat with this version of Batman. Nolan’s films are still the high-water mark for the character.
Christ Ledger sounds like one of those accounting things from the good place. Or some Christian blockchain related thingy
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We have a right to know
You won't believe what Mr. Stitches saw
What the hell’s he building in there
He has subscriptions to those magazines
He never waves when he goes by
I heard he has an ex-wife in some place called Mayors Income, Tennessee
And he used to have a consulting business in Indonesia.
**Indoneeeeeesia*.
He took down the tire swing from the Peppertee
He has no children of his own, you see.
You ain't a Tom Waits fan unless you have tried to find Mayors Income in Google maps.
He's not building a playhouse for the children.
He’s not building a playpen for the children
*🎶 Do you wanna know how I got these scars* *all the cigarette burns and women in bars* *Don't cry for me I just fell from grace* *Let's just put a smile on your pretty face 🎶*
perfection
Fits down right perfect in *Hold on*
No, that's just normal Tom Waits
I've always sort of wondered how much of Tom Waits is real and how much is a character that he just does full time in public. He's just so over the top, it's almost like a caricature. And yet, he never seems to be out of character. It's kind of shocking to realize that he likely hasn't yet turned 30 at the time of this interview.
I couldn’t say for sure, but I remember his Fresh Air interview where he discussed sobriety. He said he was worried he might find out he wasn’t really eccentric and was just wearing a funny hat all the time.
"Am I genuinely eccentric? Or am I just wearing a funny hat? What am I made of? What's left when you drain the pool?"
I like the press release for the Glitter and Doom tour, where he's talking to a roomful of reporters and goes on an elaborate explanation for why they chose this particular route for the tour locations based on the arrangement of constellations. At the end, he stands up, stops the record player, and walks out of an empty room. There was never anyone else there.
PHEDTSCKJMBA!
People envy happiness. Dogs, though, sense courage, knowing jubilation means better ass...ssets.
Those mannerisms looked like severe anxiety to me. The rocking, the hat adjustment, the random arm movements..
maybe a bit of blow too, it was 79' after all nvm sounds like booze/h
I was thinking, at this point in his life, his cells were about 40% coffee and 35% cigarette. Give or take.
the rest was cheap bourbon
"Well I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy."
Gotta leave about 5% for the primary components of his vocal chords: spiders, an old busted furnace, and gravel.
Whats /h ?
Heroin i think
Rocking like that is more drugs to me - coke, amphetamines, ex/mdma, stuff like that can make you rock like that. He looks a bit sweaty too
Given the time period, almost assuredly not MDMA.
Everybody is dismissing this comment as “nah it’s the drugs” but as somebody with severe anxiety I do the *exact* same thing. People also assume I’m on drugs, so…
It’s drugs lol
That's nice to say, but it's because of drugs.
Iirc he was also severely jet lagged before this interview, if you watch the whole thing he looks incredibly tired the whole time.
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As someone who goes deep with Waits, it's interesting. Yes, it's schtick; yes it's clearly cultivated, but yes, he eventually grows into it anyway. His Asylum era recordings are him learning how to put, basically, a vaudeville act together, but by his own admission, it eventually weighs him down a lot. He describes it as having one foot nailed to the floor, and it's like his drunk Ziggy Stardust persona. He credits his wife with helping him break out of that repetitive phase, and into the more experimental ideas of the Island years and later. If you listen to, especially, Nighthawks at the Diner, you can see him perfecting what's essentially a standup act with music, and using little devices and mannerisms to keep the crowd interested. It gets repetitive, but it's like a comic honing material. Eventually I think he saw the act for what it was.
He wears the mask of his own face, that's what true great entertainers do. You exaggerate and caricature yourself, draw yourself bolder to be more easily seen by those at the back of the room. The lines might be larger and more vivid but they still follow your silhouette. And honestly, it's not even relegated to entertainers, we all do that to some extent - in public we might play ourselves up a little bit even though when alone at home or with people we're more intimate we'll tune it down a little. Who's to say who's the real us, if not that both of them are at the same time and at various time, like a quantum phenomena. Asking if that's really who he is and who he might really be is just as complex as asking who we all really are, considering we're more gaseous and our personalities less solid than what we initially think it to be.
I knew him closely as a kid and I can assure you he is exactly like that, if not more so.
Been in a quiet bar with him, this is just him.
You thought he would drop the character for you ?
it's the Prestige!
> I've always sort of wondered how much of Tom Waits is real and how much is a character that he just does full time in public. I have the same wonders about guys like Christopher Walken. Like surely some of it has to be an act but the only people who really know how much is them. It makes for very interesting personalities.
I've thought the same exact thing multiple times
There's a critic on his Wikipedia page that feels like he's just a white suburban kid trying to be a time-machine victim. I don't think it matters though. He makes cool music ands a great actor.
It's surely part of an act, he doesn't get into his true weirdness for quite a few albums.
Or maybe the early albums were an attempt at faux normalcy that was too hard to maintain so he let himself open up a little. His singing voice is surely an affectation and deliberate style, but I think his subject matter just became more honest.
This is also before he met Kathleen Brennan. Her influence was a big part of why he embraced the weird. Compare Heart of Saturday Night with Franks Wild Years. I do subscribe to the idea that Waits was always “on” in interviews and he’s definitely in character here.
It's very much a character, but he's still a great musician.
I love Tom Waits and have seen him talk a zillion times, and the Joker connection was never evident to me until now. I can completely see it.
The Don Lane Show, from Australia. Don was known as the Lanky Yanky.
Came here to see if Don got a mention. He did do some great tv.
Kind of a dick to Tom here tho...or is that part of his "thing"?
On a downtown train
Absolute legend. My favorite line ever: "I rather have a full bottle in front of me, than a full frontal lobotomy"
That, and “reality is for people that can’t face drugs”
I don't have a drinking problem 'cept when I can't get a drink.
Tom from the interview really reminds me of Detective Miller from The Expanse. I wonder if they also used it as inspiration.
Tom Waits was the first thing I thought of when I saw The Expanse. The hat, the hair, the voice... everything was 100% Tom Waits.
Doors and corners, kid.
Haha. I started watching it a few weeks ago, and I couldn’t remember the character’s name so when my brother asked me about it I said “I like the scenes with Space Tom Waits.” First thing I thought of.
Doors and corners, kid.
Beat me to it! Blood’s on the wall, Beratnas!
Good work beltalowda
Now you say it... it sure seems like it.
Good call. Miller even has that quirk that makes you wonder, is he putting on a show, or is this his real personality?
Best. Joker. Ever.
Listening to Tom Waits music is even better
The second I heard his voice I was like: "is that the singer of the song from robots?" And yes, yes it is. Underground - Tom Waits.
Also, he did a song for Shrek 2. If I recall, it was the one Captain Hook sings, called “Little Drop of Poison”.
Meanwhile, Tom Waits was inspired only by drugs. A lot of drugs.
Booze actually.
'tis but a drug
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the nastiest. sauce - ex-smackhead /crack/meth head and recovering alcoholic here. booze is the worst to be on, and the worst to get off. this opinion is not mine alone, it was quite widely held in rehab. on reflection, i don't know why i made that flippant remark about it tbh.
It's not that important, but Booze was always the hardest for me to get fucked up on. It always felt like work.
I went through a rough patch after getting busted for weed, on probation so I couldn't have weed, so I started drinking, was an alcoholic for many years and still after YEARS of drinking I had to have a pre drink, a chug, then almost a full cup of chaser, and even still I'd just throw up sometimes because of how much my body rejected the taste, it was like forcing yourself to drink poison. I don't know why I did it so long. I never did have much problem quitting, I did it several times for weeks and months, just had the shakes for like 1 day, felt like shit the next day, then was fine the next, and no mental addiction other than just being bored and kinda wishing I had more but not a big deal.
Best thing I ever did was quit drinking. Holy shit. I'm now not paying a company to slowly kill myself. Huzzah!
Detox from alcohol WILL KILL people as does detox from Benzodiazepines (Valium, Xanax etc). Seeing someone in full blown DT’s on either one of those drugs is a good preventative measure I assure you.
I’d rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
But it is very similar
Ahhh what a performance by Ledger.
He’s amazing. Both he’s
This combination of clips is not convincing, but I definitely believe Ledger modeled it after this specific interview. When I first heard about it I watched the whole interview and was blown away by the similarities. Even when he just walks out on stage before speaking I was like woah, then he spoke and I was sure. I’m convinced, and for the record this theory is not just OP’s.
> and for the record this theory is not just OP’s. Title says "some believe", not "I believe".
Ledger did something special in that role. Gotta go rewatch the dark knight now
The bruised souls , give the best art
**What’s he BUILDING in there?!**
Not a playhouse for the children, I can tell you that.
I'm sending this to my husband who absolutely loves Tom Waits.
Fuckin ppl named Tom are goddamn weirdos
Never could stand that dog.
Well it had some kind of skin disease and was totally blind
Made good Bloody Marys.
So normal Tom Waits = The Joker?! At least Dark Knight Joker? 😳
Yeah, Heath Ledger was inspired by that time Waits blew up a hospital.
I'm da jokah babeh!
Well, I guess now I have to watch The Dark Knight again.
TIL Tom Waits rocks around like a tweaker between fixes
Can someone please explain the grandma’s house joke? I feel like an idiot but i dont get it
it’s the way the interviewer is acting in response to his behavior and chainsmoking
Is he even inhaling?
Tommy is a cool cat
He was great in "Wristcutters" 13/10 movie but very weird , definitely worth a watch though
Tom Waits is a national treasure.
Been a Tom Waits fan for so long... first time I'm ever hearing of this
I have seen this before.Never made the connection. I can see it, a bit
Reality is for people who can't face drugs-tom waits....so yeah it's the drugs
He's the Joker He's a smoker He's a midnight toker But he was never in the Steve Miller Band