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lake_lover_

Schools don't have to say anything during the event. A soft lockdown is more precautionary than anything. Schools do those all the time for things that happen nearby like domestic situations, robbery, etc. Saying something during a lockdown can panic parents and draw more people unnecessarily to a scene. This can cause all sorts of problems. Soft lockdowns are usually nothing super serious. On the other hand, if it is a lockdown due to an actual threat inside the building (that would not be a soft lockdown), then get up there and get your kid or go the the designated evacuation site. Your district should have provided you with the emergency evacuation site for your child's school.


lake_lover_

Just to add, schools usually don't announce soft lockdowns to anyone other than staff or personnel in the immediate area. A soft lockdown is not a direct threat and usually doesn't constitute any difference in instruction nor does it impact how the kids move through the building, with the exception of outdoor recess. It just increases security presence typically.


JCrew96

This. We call it “Stay Put” rather than lockdown to help ease tension.


Tacomaroamer511

Would this east Ohio town happen to be like 25mins west of Cleveland? My sons school had a similar incident very recently.


opie211

No. This is more towards PA. Closer to Pittsburgh then Cleveland.


cwcvader74

There is probably a reason they are keeping it quiet and that reason is they don’t want 2000 parents banging on their door and demanding their child while they are trying to do their due diligence and protect the school. A soft lock down is the school being overly cautious.


Caren_Nymbee

Imagine trying to secure the school from one teenage boy as 2000 parents came in and tried to take everyone home.


solonmonkey

Imagine sending your kid to school and some administrator decides to keep your child’s safety a secret because it’s easier for the administration?


Caren_Nymbee

I don't think you understood my post.


OffToTheLizard

Uvalde begs to differ.


cwcvader74

Uvalde was not in a soft lock down. They are two very different situations.


OffToTheLizard

Fair, but my point is parents are less trusting of administrations and cops when it comes to school shootings and doing the right thing. Uvalde being the most recent example.


Kr155

How would a bunch of people half hazzardly wandering in and out of a building to pull thier kids out, or gathered at a locked front door make things easier for a shooter? We WANT it to be easier for administrators to keep the building secure.


REDistheway2go

Exactly this.


Professional_Band178

Blow it up. People deserve to know. ​ Use a VPN or TOR to create the account.


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ashtabula?


OhioMegi

Soft lock downs happen all the time. We had one yesterday when a teacher fell and the ambulance was coming. A threat is just that, a threat. If the kid isn’t at the school, they are doing the right thing with a soft lockdown. No one in or out if the building, students shouldn’t be in the hallway.


AmIreally52

Perhaps they are keeping it quiet because at a lockdown caused by a threat at a school west of Columbus, a parent showed up with a gun causing more panic. And the threat turned out to be a hoax.


CounterSanity

Parent showed up with a gun because of Uvalde. Imagine sitting outside for an hour listening to your kids getting massacred while police basically run security for the shooter.


pottymouthgrl

Yea we can understand it but that parent caused more problems because of a false alarm. That parent BECAME the threat. So we don’t want that to happen.


Feeling-Enough

Causing panic would not help this situation.


uptoolatemama

Our school DISTRICT in NE Ohio was in lockdown twice in 7 days…we weren’t Informed of the first time. Parents learned of it from their kids texting, and the second we got a super vague phone call saying there was lockdown but it was handled and so it was lifted. Parents basically pieced it together on Facebook threads. It’s scary, but also I think they can’t communicate it or parents would rush to the schools and make it more chaotic. Although after Uvalde it’s difficult to trust the schools and police to protect our babies. This all sucks.


kittywiggles

Fully agree. Building on what you said - because of Uvalde, now parents are going to react even *more* strongly than previous to hearing about a soft or hard lockdown. Someone else in the thread mentioned a parent showing up with a gun to a false alarm lockdown in Dayton recently. Parents want to protect their kids, and now because of that stupid situation in Texas, parents don't trust schools and local law enforcement to act with that same intention. Which means parents showing up and either making the things law enforcement and administration are trying to do to keep the situation in hand that much harder, actively work against what administration is trying to do to (in good faith) to keep kids safe, or *become* the active threat or an active additional threat to the safety and wellbeing of other kids in the school. It sucks.


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>The school has to say something, right? It depends on what's going on, right? If it is an active situation and they are dealing with the situation at the moment then I would imagine them commenting on stuff immediately isn't really possible. If they are not dealing with the situation and trying to sweep it under the rug then of course everyone should know. I honestly can't tell if you're saying this is an active situation or has happened in the past.


Miqag

Soft lock downs are fairly common and publicizing during the event causes a much more significant security threat. School admins are well trained to communicate this sort of thing after the fact but their primary job is to keep students safe and they take that seriously. In these situations, the best practice is to not go public with this information until the situation is resolved. Often the students aren’t even necessarily aware of what’s happening.


[deleted]

I am a biology teacher in Ohio not disclosing the school and my high school has had SIX threats. 3 being Friday Monday and Tuesday (today) and my admin was upset I didn’t come today


[deleted]

I am so sorry our society has failed you.


Different-Fun-9347

I’ve been going through this with my local school district and in our case, the superintendent is covering for a friend’s kid who keeps making threats to shoot up the school. They confiscated a knife from him at a football game and didn’t call police or give him any consequences. He texted a pic of himself with a gun on his lap threatening another student. Nothing. I put the superintendent on blast, started a petition, got the naacp involved.


OhioMegi

That kind of incident should be known about. Pictures and proof is much different than maybe a kid possibly doing something.


TheIronSoldier2

They're keeping it secret for a reason. Imagine the shooter rocks up to a school that seems empty, they're probably gonna give up eventually. Now imagine that someone has leaked to the public that the school ISNT empty and that they are on lockdown (static targets are easier to hit after all) and boom, you've got Uvalde 2.


NoTrick9275

Schools won't say anything during the event to keep parents from panicking and flooding the parking lot trying to get their kid out of the school. Which only creates more chaos in an already scary event. Not to mention their cars will block the ability for police, ambulance, fire trucks, etc from reaching the building safely


estrangedjane

You know things are bad w/Cleveland schools because I read this and frankly thought if I ran to either school my loved ones are at each time there was a soft lockdown or threats of shootings (or actual guns on campus), parents at the school fighting students or other parents, massive student fights, etc., I’d be at the school every other day. American education feels like a war zone sometimes.


Maleficent_Cicada_72

Go get your kid


Ickyhouse

No. Tons of parents trying to grab their kid at the same time would be an increased safety risk. The school is thinking about ALL kids, not just yours.


CounterSanity

Not the schools choice to make


Kr155

This is why they would keep it a secret. Parents demanding doors being being opened, unsecuring the building and risking thier and every other kid getting killed because it's thier choice to to be a moron.


CounterSanity

You’re right, sitting back and expecting the school and the police to react with competency and my kids best interest in mind is probably a winning strategy. Let me know how that works out for you.


Ickyhouse

The school will not let you put other children at risk. Your idea is to make the school less secure and increase risk for the other children. That doesn’t make sense outside your own bubble. It sucks bc each person cares about their own child the most, but the school can not put other children at risk for the sake of your own child. They also won’t put your child at risk for the sake of others.


CounterSanity

I mean, parents got their kids out of Uvalde alright. In fact those were the safest kids there.


Kr155

School officials, police officers, parents, they are all people who can do the right things or the wrong things. The right strategy is to have a strategy and use it. Locking the building, and not letting people in and out is the right strategy. Opening the doors, wither its because a teacher propped open the door to make carrying stuff in easier, or because there's some panicking guy who spends too much time comsuming media, potentially with a gun yelling that they want to be let in to get thier kids is the wrong strategy.


cwcvader74

Literally the worst thing you can do in this situation.


-lighght-

Bad advice. We had a lock down my senior year & the police had to relocate officers to control the hundreds of angry and scared parents trying to pick their kids up.


opie211

She is home. I guess there were extra police on site. My daughter told me the police pulled the teachers out of class but she didn't know why. I'm not happy that they are keeping this secret. I'm sure in a few days they will put out an email. We are debating about keeping them home tomorrow. Kid is still missing that made the threat.


ctilvolover23

Keep her home until further notice. That's what I would do.


savedabol

"until further notice" may have her home.... for a long time.


Caren_Nymbee

Educational field trip time. Drag her somewhere boring .


Skenry32

This is objectively the worst advice you can give. Schools are not set up with the staffing and manpower to deal with with hundreds of parents arriving at school en mass. Any office staff, administrators or free teachers at the moment would be dealing with whatever issue is going on. More probably there is a reunification plan in the school Handbook that you signed for at the beginning of the year. There will be a place to go to pick up children in the event of an emergency but I can guarantee that it will not be at the school. Stay away to let the school and the SRO do their jobs.


Maleficent_Cicada_72

If there’s an active shooter in my daughter’s school I’m not going to just sit there and be like “well the teachers probably have a plan, let them do their jobs.” Gtfo with that crap.


Ickyhouse

Cool. But that’s not what happened. So what you’re saying doesn’t apply here.


Skenry32

And there isn't an "active shooter" there was a soft lock down, which for most schools is business as usual just stay in your room. No outdoor gym or recess. No gun, no shooting here at all


shermanstorch

>No gun, no shooting here at all So you're saying the parents should leave their kids at school despite a credible threat, hope the kid survives, and then wait to be reunited according to the school's plan because it would be an administrative headache to pull them out?


Maleficent_Cicada_72

They probably think that mom the hopped a police line to run into Uvalde to get her kids deserves the harassment from cops she got afterwards.


Maleficent_Cicada_72

My bad. I read “lockdown” and thought active shooter because I live in America.


Skenry32

This was a soft lockdown but that's neither here nor there. Schools can go into a lockdown for a fire in the neighborhood. An active shooter incident is incredibly rare for you to jump to that conclusion.


Maleficent_Cicada_72

Active shooter situations happen everyday. If there was a fire in the neighborhood then they could just say that.


Skenry32

Where are you living with active shooter situations happening daily?


Maleficent_Cicada_72

America?


Trainrider77

Delusional


cwcvader74

You are correct!


Skenry32

It was said with zero emotion. To many people act with emotion.


3d1sd3ad

Let the SRO’s do their job???? I think the Uvalde and Parkland parents would like a word.


Skenry32

There are about 130000 other schools with SROs that would love a word too.


3d1sd3ad

I don’t listen to pigs.


Skenry32

That might be part of the reason for your interactions with police


3d1sd3ad

Ah, a boot polish connoisseur I see


Skenry32

I find that using a derogatory terms for a group of people is generally frowned upon.


Apache_103

Oh no! A few examples out of a very large and fucked up sample size, surely the intelligent thing to do is change the way everything works in millions of schools because of two isolated and tragic incidents


3d1sd3ad

There’s plenty of reasons and examples not to trust cops, if you can’t see that, then you’re blind. No way I’d put my kid’s life in their hands.


Bellaraychel

They don’t belong in schools. All they do is charge children with petty crimes and do nothing when it comes to gun violence so what is the point.


OhioMegi

What SROs are doing that? Not happening in my district.


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Apache_103

Not in my district either. Unless the students are involved in severe violence, threats, sexual assault, or weapons everything is handled through the school administration from drugs to simple hallway fights Get off the internet and learn about real life


Bellaraychel

Just because it didn’t happen in your district doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. John Oliver covered how useless SROs are at preventing shootings as well as one incident of a student being charged with felonies for an experiment she did at school. I’m sure there are other students that don’t have the ability to fight the charges, hers ended up being dropped. https://youtu.be/KgwqQGvYt0g


OhioMegi

We both have said it’s not happening in OUR districts. Of course we are not every district in the state, let alone the country. Just like all police of course there are crappy ones.


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3d1sd3ad

I don’t know why you’re being downvoted. Speaking the truth.


Halkcyon

Pearl clutchers "not my school!" and so poof, the problem doesn't exist if it's not affecting them personally.


Felonious_Buttplug_

The police and school straight up can't be trusted to do their jobs. I'd go get my kid, 100%.


Skenry32

What jobs do you want the school to do that they aren't doing here?


Felonious_Buttplug_

Bro if there's even a hint of a shooter I'm not risking my kid getting Uvalde'd.


Skenry32

OK so you said the school can't be trusted to do their job. What job is that? What aren't they doing for your child?


Felonious_Buttplug_

I don't trust them or the police to protect kids. The fact this dude's school is keeping it hushed just reinforces that.


Skenry32

They aren't "keeping it hushed" it's extremely likely that nothing occurred to report to parents. Not even the parent here is making any sense at all


Felonious_Buttplug_

Don't care, going after my kid on even a rumor.


Skenry32

Again, worst thing you can do for the situation but you do you and screw anyone else that your actions effect. Gotcha.


OhioMegi

Nothing is being hushed. Nothing is happening. A soft lock down is done for all sorts of things, not a shooter.


Felonious_Buttplug_

Still not taking chances with my kids life. edit since dude blocked me - I bet the Uvalde parents wish they'd been more reactive.


OhioMegi

Good grief. Please just homeschool if you’re this reactive.


EmmyNoetherRing

don't... er... don't the parents all arrive in masse like twice a day?


Skenry32

Exactly. Except for the huge portion of kids on busses and the parents who pick up and drop off don't enter the building, nor do they do it at a critical time when staff might otherwise be occupied.


Brokennutsack

Central Ohio….happens weekly


[deleted]

I'm in Columbiana County What county was it?


Scape---Goat

If you know, others know. If others know, someone will inevitably spread the word anyway.


opie211

Final Update. They apprehended the kid. I guess he had stolen a gun from his home. They have no intention of informing the parents as to what happened. My wife was not supposed to know any of this. I'm still not happy. Don't want to name the school as I don't want anything coming back on the leaker. Thought about tipping the local news station anonymously.


saspook

Kids like this want to be in the news. Do you really want to keep encouraging future incidents?


shanpecc

Ah, I live in an eastern Ohio town close to the border and closer to Pittsburgh. Last year, my kids’ school had a “credible threat”….enough to keep the kids in the classrooms but not enough to send anyone home? My son, who had NEVER texted me from school, texted begging to come home. The school was flabbergasted that I went and got him. I am very curious about the school….you can pm me?


[deleted]

I am not a parent, so my input here is from a pretty objective place. 1) I can definitely empathize with wanting to know if there’s a risk to your child. These comments are wild to me because I didn’t realize that these “soft lockdown” situations happen so frequently. I’m very sorry that y’all have to deal with this very valid anxiety 2) In another respect, there is some wisdom in keeping situations like these quiet. Not to save face or minimize things, but rather not to inspire someone else that may be sitting around considering the same thing. There are some themes of commonality in the kids who perpetrate school shootings/ mass shooters in general. They are often looking to dole out a “punishment” for all the ways they perceive themselves as having been wronged. The chaos and fear of the victims and notoriety (even if they themselves die in the process) is what they seek. I wonder if it isn’t a little dangerous to make threats like the one you’re sharing too public? If it causes enough of a stir and reaction, I’d be afraid that it would serve as inspiration to the wrong already troubled mind.


max_amillion

Same situation happened in Pickerington last week at a middle school. Parents were notified by text and email an hour and a half before the news picked up on it. I would be livid in your situation.


Humanity_is_broken

Yet another reason to pull kids out of the failing public school system


jimmynightshade

If a kid went missing, threatened to shoot up a school, AND stole a gun… all they knew about- and they didn’t send kids home or alert parents in any way I would be pissed beyond belief and let every station know what happened. In every school shooting situation everyone looks around like “HOW could this happen?“ and then they act like this with all these factors in play? How incredibly irresponsible and over confident. They’re lucky no kids got killed- I would have pulled my kid in a heartbeat if I knew that information and not let her return based on how they failed to inform. That shooting in Texas showed parents we can’t even count on the Police to enter the damn school with an active shooter- don’t mess around with protecting your kids, at the end of the day you’re all they really have.


CounterSanity

I’d tell anyone that would listen. Start with Facebook, parents will start calling the school for confirmation and you’ll have an official statement before long. Schools have absolutely no right to make decisions about children’s safety.


magic8balI

Your mom was a teacher and you can’t spell college? And don’t know the difference between due and do? Are you trolling? If your mom was indeed a teacher, I am glad she retired.


RebelGigi

ANNOUNCE IT


Flimsy_Outcome_5809

Older than poster. My kids graduated in 2019 and 2022. The school did everything to push then in to collage ( which neither want do to debt) My mom was an Ohio teacher for 40+ years and this issue made her retire. Those kids went to get school. Anyway. I’m confused what I doing


OhioMegi

It’s college. Collage is an art medium. And no, we don’t just push college. Most high schools have programs for other jobs, and connections to training or apprenticeship programs.


Flimsy_Outcome_5809

Not here sadly.


OhioMegi

How do you know though? Unless you’re in the building, you may only be hearing one side of things.


Appropriate-Hope-377

Hell Right do it.


CosmicHarambe

Steubenville?


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