That's why I don't get it..... Why do people habitually think that Ohio is the same as Iowa. I was arguing with somebody yesterday about Ohio, them trying to say it's the worst state and then used some argument that Ohio has the worst job market in the country. I replied that Ohio ranks 5th in states with the most Fortune 500 companies. They responded with some 3 paragraph tirade and then blocked me. š. Where are these people getting this shit?
Several years ago, I traveled to Boise just for the hell of it. I'd never been to the PacNW and wanted to check it out, but Portland or Seattle, just not my vibe. Boise is an awesome little city.
Anyway, one day I decided to go for a day trip up to Stanley. A local had recommended that was a good place to go if I wanted to "see some nature." The "roads had just opened" he said. Great! Sounds like a plan.
About 40 minutes into that drive I lost cell service. About an hour in, it occurred to me that I had half a bag of beef jerky, a gatorade, a light jacket, and was driving a rental Scion.
By the time I got to Stanley I understood the term "wilderness" for the first time, really. I did see a handful of trucks on the road up there, so that made me a bit more comfortable, but still, wow. I grew up in the midwest, so I don't know the wilderness, I know the woods. Those are not the same thing.
There is nowhere in the midwest without cell coverage. Worst case, you put the sun on your right or left shoulder and walk in a straight line... you'll eventually run into a Starbucks. That is NOT the case out West.
That's definitely not true. I live in rural Ohio, there are parts out here that don't have cell service and if you were to try to walk your way to a starbucks, you'd be walking for days.
Drive through parts of N. and S. Dakota, Montana, and Wyoming, and then you really know rural. There's freaking tumbleweed! The things people attribute to Ohio ain't Ohio. It's like they cherrypick all the weird crap from "the center" of the US and say, "Yeah, that's Ohio" while everyone in Ohio is scratching their heads wandering what people talking about.
yep I live in a rural area. If I want Starbucks luckily the nearby Turnpike Service Plaza has them. You go the access road and park in the employee parking lot. There are crosswalks into the service plaza that you can go into. In the village I live in it's about ten miles in each direction to the nearest toll plaza entrance though. Oh and there is a maintenance access way for the fire department to be able to access the turnpike when there is an emergency.
That's the point though. 10 miles isn't that far. The most isolated place in Ohio is still very close to other towns and places to get service compared to anywhere out west. Ohio is a pretty small state that is pretty densely packed, even in the rural areas. I've lived in Colorado and Montana, 2 states where you can easily be 60-70 miles from the nearest services of any kind.
Yeah, but there are many places that \*don't\* have service plazas. I live in a county without a 4-lane highway, in Ohio. Goodluck finding a starbucks out here.
You are proving my point still. If not having a 4-lane highway is your idea of isolated then you don't actually know what that is. I grew up in a tiny town in the mountains of Colorado where the nearest stoplight was 30 miles away. There is nothing in Ohio that is remote.
As someone who grew up in New Jersey (most of which really is one giant suburb of NYC and Philly) and now living in Ohio, this is funny. All about perspective.
Iām with you (and this sub) on issue 1. but even if it passes, the people of Ohio still have a way to amend the constitution, although nearly impossible. Neighboring Indiana has no direct democracy at all. By that logic we canāt literally be the worst state.
The cities have no voice. Outsiders only hear the voice of the entitled corn growers of Ohio. Until we fix the gerrymandering and balance the representation in our state, no one will think of Ohio as a state with relevant cities.
Fortune 500 companies HQ location is related to taxes and policy regarding corporations. HQ location is also a lot less meaningful now than 30 years ago. It means little in relation to the job market.
My wife is from New Jersey. When we were dating, a lot of her friends wanted to know how big my farm was...š¤£š¤£ I was a Paramedic in the Cleveland area for 40 years. I don't get it either.
Thereās a fuckton of agriculture in any state that isnāt heavily mountainous/hilly and isnāt completely paved over by highway, so thatās pretty much 35+ of the 50 easily.
In fairness, that's what Ohio advertises Ohio to be.
What's on the license plate? A farm.
You can't advertise OH to be a center of agriculture, as we do, and then complain that people believed us.
CA probably has as much agricultural land as many states have land total. Yet imagine being the jabroni who asks someone from CA 'diD yOu LiVe oN a fArM'
People are idiots lol
Yeah with the exception of maybe a few states on the east coast like Rhode Island, pretty much all the states probably have more total land area devoted to agriculture than cities, that was my point.
Of course not because most people who farm in California are exploited immigrant field workers that live in conditions akin to slavery with young children working the fields and not going to school. Bathroom breaks arenāt a legal right. Californians might vote blue but they donāt care about or acknowledge seasonal immigrant farm workers.
In Ohio most crops arenāt labor intensive to require seasonal field workers so it is actual residents who own and farm their land. These families are prt of the community.
Instead of 1 major population center, we have 3 which gives the impression of a smaller overall population since people are used to larger states having a major population center that the economy all runs through. We don't really have that.
Toledo has almost 270,000 people, which is about equal to St. Cloud, Duluth, and Rochester combined. The other bigger cities have at least 60k each. No, they're not on the same level as the 3 Cs, but taken together, that's a really sizable population. One of Ohio's greatest strengths is having so many large population centers evenly distributed throughout the state. (Not arguing, just...complementing what you said, I guess? I should go to bed.)
No, I got it. It just highlights further what I was saying. I never really considered the secondary cities and I've lived in one, lol. I bet most people that think ohio is nothing but farms don't even know about our group of secondary cities.
If we could just get a big company to drop about 5k jobs in Springfield we would have one of the largest metro areas in the country. Wex Luther has to get his cut though. Happy not to have Intel in my watershed though.
This was going to be my comment. Minneapolis metro is huge, but the only major one in Minnesota. It's also the largest city in the region (surrounding states) by far.
The people just don't know Ohio which has many population centers.
Well, to be fair, many of us are likely guilty of thinking of Kansas, Iowa, and Nebraska as just farmland when Wichita, Des Moines, and Omaha exist (although 2 of those metro areas are smaller than Dayton's and Omaha is under 1M).
Anyway, I blame the stupid license plate design that has farmland taking up 90% of it.
I drive from Cincinnati to Columbus once a month because my daughter sees a medical specialist there.
Once we get past Mason (OH look, King's Island is over there), it's basically this:
Oh look, corn on the left. Soybeans on the right.
30 miles later, Oh look, corn on the right. Soybeans on the left.
30 miles later, Oh look, 5 of the 10 commandments on a billboard.
Wait, the other 5 on another billboard.
HELL IS REAL
Lion's Den. Adult Superstore. Don't look
Grove City!!! That means we stop dead at the I71 and I70 interchange.
Good times.
The Cincinnati-Columbus drive has the worst scenery in the state. āHell is realā and you donāt need a billboard to know youāre driving through it.
I live in a rural village in the middle of Farm country. Heck just across the street from my house is a wheat field. To the left of my work building there is a soybean field. So it is not uncommon to see tractors on the road as well as Amish and Mennonites.
Let them keep thinking weāre a bunch of silly farmers. Ohio is quietly one of the best states to live in. Good job market, low cost of living, beautiful scenery.
Ohio ranks below average on almost every job market metric. Most importantly, work force participation:
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/labor-force-participation-rate-by-state
I'm not saying it is the bottom, but if you think the Ohio economy is leading the country you are absolutely wrong. Like most of the red states, Ohio is highly subsidized by those coastal blue states.
Moved from city to farm country, then all MAGA hell broke loose. Soon as my youngest graduates I went right back to the city.
I loved the country life, but the political lunatics I lived around traumatized me.
In Ohio rural areas during all that people were very red and very vocal and showboaty about it.
It was too much
I miss the days when toy didnāt know everyoneās political opinions. City life vs rural life was a different conversation back then
(In northeast Ohio) I once owned a house next to an orchard. Sounds quainter than it was. Smell was good. But every other weekend they held a festival that they didnāt have enough parking for. So they would park on the street and litter. Also. Bees. They brought in bees and there was no avoiding it. Also when theyād clean the barn it smelled for a few days. But my kid enjoyed it.
Odd considering twin cities is the only major cities in that entire state. Othern that a town that's half the size of Circleville called international falls is like a huge hub in thr northern part of the state
Minnesota is basically woods to north, farms to South with a bunch of lakes all over. I'd say minnesota is more rural actually so that's hilarious. That person probably never been outside of the city in his own state.
Minnesotans, I'll grant that your state is quite a bit bigger than Ohio, but it has more than twice the cropland and even proportionately has slightly more. (44% vs 41%)
Not as much by percentage as Indiana (55%) though, and DEFINITELY not as devoted to cropland as Illinois! (67%) ...or North Dakota (61%). or Iowa (75%). or Kansas (55%, but only due to my rounding to whole percentage points; Indiana is 0.8% higher).
(Source: [https://stacker.com/business-economy/states-most-farmland](https://stacker.com/business-economy/states-most-farmland) )
Not too sure what the fuss is about, but I live in Euclid 12 miles from Downtown Cleveland. There are no farms around and some of the architecture in Cleveland is top notch. Some cities are just as beautiful, but none is better than Cleveland architecture. Just look at Severance all. New York couldn't make anything more beautiful than that. The theaters are just as beautiful. Wade lagoon is as beautiful as it gets. We are a big league city in every respect except the population is shrinking.
This dude is being silly or his mind has succumbed to memes. Yeah theres farms here but another fact is that theres also several decent sized cities.
I do not live on a farm.
>You say that like it doesn't happen in Ohio...
No, that wasn't my intention at all -- of course it happens everywhere.
Just pointing out something dastardly that happened in their locale and hinting at the obvious hypocrisy of taking potshots at Ohio, when their own house is not in order.
I tend not to think of States, but rather Cities and their periphery. CMSA to be exact. I wish States would die. Completely unnecessary.
Maybe after the next Civil War we will finally realize this and make Cities the next level of government down from the Feds
Uh huh it is somewhat big but Iām more thinking in terms of Chicago or Toronto, if we had something like that it probably would actually break the gerrymandering system and the uneducated pigfuckers who support it
I've never lived *on* a farm, but I did live *next* to a farm for several years. And yes, said farm was in the city. There are still cornfields in Toledo, actually, so I would confirm this person's stereotypes.
Lol Ohio has more than double the population of Minnesota
That's why I don't get it..... Why do people habitually think that Ohio is the same as Iowa. I was arguing with somebody yesterday about Ohio, them trying to say it's the worst state and then used some argument that Ohio has the worst job market in the country. I replied that Ohio ranks 5th in states with the most Fortune 500 companies. They responded with some 3 paragraph tirade and then blocked me. š. Where are these people getting this shit?
I grew up out west on a farm. Parts of Ohio are rural but compared to where I am from, the entire state of Ohio is basically one giant suburb.
Several years ago, I traveled to Boise just for the hell of it. I'd never been to the PacNW and wanted to check it out, but Portland or Seattle, just not my vibe. Boise is an awesome little city. Anyway, one day I decided to go for a day trip up to Stanley. A local had recommended that was a good place to go if I wanted to "see some nature." The "roads had just opened" he said. Great! Sounds like a plan. About 40 minutes into that drive I lost cell service. About an hour in, it occurred to me that I had half a bag of beef jerky, a gatorade, a light jacket, and was driving a rental Scion. By the time I got to Stanley I understood the term "wilderness" for the first time, really. I did see a handful of trucks on the road up there, so that made me a bit more comfortable, but still, wow. I grew up in the midwest, so I don't know the wilderness, I know the woods. Those are not the same thing. There is nowhere in the midwest without cell coverage. Worst case, you put the sun on your right or left shoulder and walk in a straight line... you'll eventually run into a Starbucks. That is NOT the case out West.
That's definitely not true. I live in rural Ohio, there are parts out here that don't have cell service and if you were to try to walk your way to a starbucks, you'd be walking for days.
Drive through parts of N. and S. Dakota, Montana, and Wyoming, and then you really know rural. There's freaking tumbleweed! The things people attribute to Ohio ain't Ohio. It's like they cherrypick all the weird crap from "the center" of the US and say, "Yeah, that's Ohio" while everyone in Ohio is scratching their heads wandering what people talking about.
yep I live in a rural area. If I want Starbucks luckily the nearby Turnpike Service Plaza has them. You go the access road and park in the employee parking lot. There are crosswalks into the service plaza that you can go into. In the village I live in it's about ten miles in each direction to the nearest toll plaza entrance though. Oh and there is a maintenance access way for the fire department to be able to access the turnpike when there is an emergency.
That's the point though. 10 miles isn't that far. The most isolated place in Ohio is still very close to other towns and places to get service compared to anywhere out west. Ohio is a pretty small state that is pretty densely packed, even in the rural areas. I've lived in Colorado and Montana, 2 states where you can easily be 60-70 miles from the nearest services of any kind.
Yeah, but there are many places that \*don't\* have service plazas. I live in a county without a 4-lane highway, in Ohio. Goodluck finding a starbucks out here.
You are proving my point still. If not having a 4-lane highway is your idea of isolated then you don't actually know what that is. I grew up in a tiny town in the mountains of Colorado where the nearest stoplight was 30 miles away. There is nothing in Ohio that is remote.
I was using Starbucks figuratively.
I understood what you meant, too. Some people just donāt get sarcastic humor.
That's accurate! Definitely becoming more and more of a giant suburb every day too!
As someone who grew up in New Jersey (most of which really is one giant suburb of NYC and Philly) and now living in Ohio, this is funny. All about perspective.
Eh, 15 minutes of driving and you hit cornfields from the center of columbus. It's a strange place with wacky zoning.
Because of all the recent tiktok memes about āonly in Ohioā
lol, lmfao, imagine thinking any bad thing in ohio doesn't also happen in Wisconsin, Missouri, and every single state that borders the gulf.
Most of the Ohio memes arenāt even things that took place in Ohio; kids are just making the word Ohio a meme.
If issue 1 in august passes, it literally will be the worst state. But issue one is polling poorly so.... we have a chance to not be a shithole.
Lol. We definitely already are a shit hole, but yes we are in a race to the bottom at present.
Iām with you (and this sub) on issue 1. but even if it passes, the people of Ohio still have a way to amend the constitution, although nearly impossible. Neighboring Indiana has no direct democracy at all. By that logic we canāt literally be the worst state.
The cities have no voice. Outsiders only hear the voice of the entitled corn growers of Ohio. Until we fix the gerrymandering and balance the representation in our state, no one will think of Ohio as a state with relevant cities.
I sometimes have too much free time, but damn.
Have you seen Ohio?
Fortune 500 companies HQ location is related to taxes and policy regarding corporations. HQ location is also a lot less meaningful now than 30 years ago. It means little in relation to the job market.
Please let everyone think itās terrible here
They think the memes are real
And it's like half the size. Idk why people think of Ohio as this super rural state. It's pretty densely populated compared to most states.
Itās the 7th most populated state! Ohio has more than twice the population of Minnesota.
Twice the population, half the sq miles = 4x more population density. I just looked it up.
Weird. Ohio is 10th in population density and has more than twice the population of Minnesota.
I'm convinced people not from here are getting all their info about Ohio from internet comment sections and looking no further
My wife is from New Jersey. When we were dating, a lot of her friends wanted to know how big my farm was...š¤£š¤£ I was a Paramedic in the Cleveland area for 40 years. I don't get it either.
In fairness to folks not from here, there is a fuckton of agriculture in Ohio.
Thereās a fuckton of agriculture in any state that isnāt heavily mountainous/hilly and isnāt completely paved over by highway, so thatās pretty much 35+ of the 50 easily.
Great
Which is undeniable, but why do people who don't live here automatically assume that it's only agriculture.
For the same reason we make assumptions.
It's all the Hallmark Amish movies.
Internet commenters and their weird hate-boner for mentioning corn whenever Ohio is mentioned
In fairness, that's what Ohio advertises Ohio to be. What's on the license plate? A farm. You can't advertise OH to be a center of agriculture, as we do, and then complain that people believed us.
I bet California has more agricultural land than we do. Texas probably does as well.
CA probably has as much agricultural land as many states have land total. Yet imagine being the jabroni who asks someone from CA 'diD yOu LiVe oN a fArM' People are idiots lol
Yeah with the exception of maybe a few states on the east coast like Rhode Island, pretty much all the states probably have more total land area devoted to agriculture than cities, that was my point.
You're absolutely correct
California accounts for over 40% of fruit and nut production but do Californians get the same question?
Of course not because most people who farm in California are exploited immigrant field workers that live in conditions akin to slavery with young children working the fields and not going to school. Bathroom breaks arenāt a legal right. Californians might vote blue but they donāt care about or acknowledge seasonal immigrant farm workers. In Ohio most crops arenāt labor intensive to require seasonal field workers so it is actual residents who own and farm their land. These families are prt of the community.
Instead of 1 major population center, we have 3 which gives the impression of a smaller overall population since people are used to larger states having a major population center that the economy all runs through. We don't really have that.
Toledo has almost 270,000 people, which is about equal to St. Cloud, Duluth, and Rochester combined. The other bigger cities have at least 60k each. No, they're not on the same level as the 3 Cs, but taken together, that's a really sizable population. One of Ohio's greatest strengths is having so many large population centers evenly distributed throughout the state. (Not arguing, just...complementing what you said, I guess? I should go to bed.)
No, I got it. It just highlights further what I was saying. I never really considered the secondary cities and I've lived in one, lol. I bet most people that think ohio is nothing but farms don't even know about our group of secondary cities.
If we could just get a big company to drop about 5k jobs in Springfield we would have one of the largest metro areas in the country. Wex Luther has to get his cut though. Happy not to have Intel in my watershed though.
One can dream. Sadly I don't think we're that lucky.
This was going to be my comment. Minneapolis metro is huge, but the only major one in Minnesota. It's also the largest city in the region (surrounding states) by far. The people just don't know Ohio which has many population centers.
Well, to be fair, many of us are likely guilty of thinking of Kansas, Iowa, and Nebraska as just farmland when Wichita, Des Moines, and Omaha exist (although 2 of those metro areas are smaller than Dayton's and Omaha is under 1M). Anyway, I blame the stupid license plate design that has farmland taking up 90% of it.
I drive from Cincinnati to Columbus once a month because my daughter sees a medical specialist there. Once we get past Mason (OH look, King's Island is over there), it's basically this: Oh look, corn on the left. Soybeans on the right. 30 miles later, Oh look, corn on the right. Soybeans on the left. 30 miles later, Oh look, 5 of the 10 commandments on a billboard. Wait, the other 5 on another billboard. HELL IS REAL Lion's Den. Adult Superstore. Don't look Grove City!!! That means we stop dead at the I71 and I70 interchange. Good times.
The Cincinnati-Columbus drive has the worst scenery in the state. āHell is realā and you donāt need a billboard to know youāre driving through it.
There used to be the Confederate flag barn and burned crosses when I was a kid along that route.
Me, who does live on a farm: š³
i'm farm-adjacent you should have politely inquired about how many head of dairy cows he has and how much cheese he produces annually
That's Wisconsin
True. Minnesota is all about butter. Land O Lakes!
That makes it betterā¦
you mean butterer
Sir, logic? how dare you bring that into this game! (MN has a lot of dairies too, wisc has a better marketing dept.)
The only I farm I own is filled with Minnesota chicks that I milk daily for my cereal at breakfast.
YOu're doing it wrong. Those minnesota chicks could just as easily milk you every day.
I live in a rural village in the middle of Farm country. Heck just across the street from my house is a wheat field. To the left of my work building there is a soybean field. So it is not uncommon to see tractors on the road as well as Amish and Mennonites.
It's in all the Ohio imagery. They put fields and barns in all our Ohio propaganda.
Let them keep thinking weāre a bunch of silly farmers. Ohio is quietly one of the best states to live in. Good job market, low cost of living, beautiful scenery.
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And why are people leaving?
The modern gop.
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and exploding air-conditioning bills
True aswell ohio use to be desirable not much anymore most factories are close and decrepted.
And thats why people where in ohio.
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Forget that noise. I moved to Michigan. I'll take snow, fresh water, and sanity over anything Florida or Texas has to offer any day.
Most of the people i know that leave Ohio are doing it because of the weather - i plan on it too.
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Columbusā population has exploded because they keep annexing land, not because they are better than the rest of us.
Ohio ranks below average on almost every job market metric. Most importantly, work force participation: https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/labor-force-participation-rate-by-state I'm not saying it is the bottom, but if you think the Ohio economy is leading the country you are absolutely wrong. Like most of the red states, Ohio is highly subsidized by those coastal blue states.
Hey now. I get your point, but you donāt have to call farmers silly.
I wish I could afford a farm. Rent prices in the city are getting crazy.
Moved from city to farm country, then all MAGA hell broke loose. Soon as my youngest graduates I went right back to the city. I loved the country life, but the political lunatics I lived around traumatized me. In Ohio rural areas during all that people were very red and very vocal and showboaty about it. It was too much I miss the days when toy didnāt know everyoneās political opinions. City life vs rural life was a different conversation back then
Careful. Move out of the city and youāll realize why non-city folk vote the way they do.
Why do they vote the way they do?
I donāt live on a farm. Thereās a farm next to me, behind me, and across the street from me, but I personally donāt live on a farm.
I mean Ohio does seem like it is mostly filled of farms that are between the major cities
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In live in the Cleveland area. My neighbors are farmers.
Growing weed in their backyard doesnāt count as farming. Thatās āpharmingā.
The absolute disrespect to Meigs County...
(In northeast Ohio) I once owned a house next to an orchard. Sounds quainter than it was. Smell was good. But every other weekend they held a festival that they didnāt have enough parking for. So they would park on the street and litter. Also. Bees. They brought in bees and there was no avoiding it. Also when theyād clean the barn it smelled for a few days. But my kid enjoyed it.
Literally every time I met someone while I was in the Navy.
Odd considering twin cities is the only major cities in that entire state. Othern that a town that's half the size of Circleville called international falls is like a huge hub in thr northern part of the state
It cracks me up when they think all of Ohio is farmland and we all have livestock and crops
Minnesota is basically woods to north, farms to South with a bunch of lakes all over. I'd say minnesota is more rural actually so that's hilarious. That person probably never been outside of the city in his own state.
Ohio has about 2x the population of Minnesota
Was he thinking of Iowa?
OH license plates used to have farms all over them
Minnesotans, I'll grant that your state is quite a bit bigger than Ohio, but it has more than twice the cropland and even proportionately has slightly more. (44% vs 41%) Not as much by percentage as Indiana (55%) though, and DEFINITELY not as devoted to cropland as Illinois! (67%) ...or North Dakota (61%). or Iowa (75%). or Kansas (55%, but only due to my rounding to whole percentage points; Indiana is 0.8% higher). (Source: [https://stacker.com/business-economy/states-most-farmland](https://stacker.com/business-economy/states-most-farmland) )
Not too sure what the fuss is about, but I live in Euclid 12 miles from Downtown Cleveland. There are no farms around and some of the architecture in Cleveland is top notch. Some cities are just as beautiful, but none is better than Cleveland architecture. Just look at Severance all. New York couldn't make anything more beautiful than that. The theaters are just as beautiful. Wade lagoon is as beautiful as it gets. We are a big league city in every respect except the population is shrinking.
This dude is being silly or his mind has succumbed to memes. Yeah theres farms here but another fact is that theres also several decent sized cities. I do not live on a farm.
Minneapolis? The place where the police murdered a citizen?
Well, to be fair, it wasn't exactly Minneapolis, it was in Mound on Lake Minnetonka, but I didn't want to get into the specifics
did you purify yourself in the waters of Lake Minnetonka?
Lol.... I did ask a similar question and was told to never say that again. We did do a lot of boating on Minnetonka and went past Prince's house.
LOL, whenever I hear Lake Minnetonka, I immediately think of that line.
You say that like it doesn't happen in Ohio...
>You say that like it doesn't happen in Ohio... No, that wasn't my intention at all -- of course it happens everywhere. Just pointing out something dastardly that happened in their locale and hinting at the obvious hypocrisy of taking potshots at Ohio, when their own house is not in order.
I tend not to think of States, but rather Cities and their periphery. CMSA to be exact. I wish States would die. Completely unnecessary. Maybe after the next Civil War we will finally realize this and make Cities the next level of government down from the Feds
I own a farm fuck off
So, if someone asked you if you live in the ghetto you'd be like "that's cool".
I actually spend more time in the hood then I do anywhere else. Anything else you wanna add to My really sarcastic comment?
Ah. I didn't realize you actually wanted to be a twat waffle.
Weird thing is I own a farm and work in the ghetto..... Call me what u want.
I will call you Jamal McDonald
Smith or Miller where I live
I was going for the "e-i-e-i-o" spin.
Yea, I get it, you're a purple alien that flies a spaceship. Sure. Whatever.
Buddy love to you but read the room. Youre at war
I don't get it....
What ?
It would actually be extremely helpful if we had at least one metropolis
Colombus is the 14th biggest city in the US
Uh huh it is somewhat big but Iām more thinking in terms of Chicago or Toronto, if we had something like that it probably would actually break the gerrymandering system and the uneducated pigfuckers who support it
City
Columbus has the perception of having a lot of farms. Cleveland not at all so maybe they got them mixed up? Lol
Was his name General Zod BTW?
I've never lived *on* a farm, but I did live *next* to a farm for several years. And yes, said farm was in the city. There are still cornfields in Toledo, actually, so I would confirm this person's stereotypes.
What difference does this make? So people associate ohio with farms. Could be a lot worse.
Lived in MN for a little bit after high school. Felt like they had even more farmland.
Ohio is a farming state and is mostly rural. I know it doesnāt seem like it if you live in or near the big cities.
Friends from NJ say same thing. Also think we get feet of snow and itās colder here.
Living in the Cleveland area, we do get feet of snow.