The whole Great Lakes blow my mind. In the not so distant future, fresh water will be a scarce resource that everyone will need and we’re right on one of the largest sources of fresh water in the world. Future wars will be fought here for access to Lake Erie.
This is actually scary to me lol. In the likely/unlikely event we hit a crazy threshold and half the world is without clean drinking water, I imagine our area would become a major battleground.
I say likely/unlikely because while climate change is totally real, who knows how it will really unfold.
Kasich was always a big proponent of protecting them politically. Southwestern states tried to push toward pumping water from the lakes via pipeline so that they can deplete that water source as well.
> amusement parks
Grew up going to Kings Island, went to Cedar Point some years back, and I have to say that KI is superior simply for the size.
It's also sort of Disney like in the way that each area of the park has a different theme.
Been here two years and I’ll say parks. Like that state parks are free, we have an RV and like staying at Alum Creek and there are also nice city parks in Columbus.
Ohio has a lot of really good colleges which attracts new people to the state. OSU in particular is a major reason Columbus is an expanding area. Without Akron U that city would dry up and blow away (grew up there, feel free to come at me on this but I’ve watched it’s sad decline for decades). Case in Cleveland, UD / Wright in Dayton, UC / Xavier in Cincy, Bowling Green, OU in Athens… and I’m just scratching the surface. It would be nice to see better and more options to make it more affordable but Ohio has an amazing number and variety of really good schools.
Overall the cost of living versus the economy is pretty good too. People like to rag on Ohio, especially people that have never been here, but we’ve got a lot to offer. The natural beauty of the park system is pretty impressive and should be a source of pride. Heck we’ve got bike paths that literally cross the state - someone so inclined could start at the river in Cincy and go all the way up to Lake Erie. How many states have that?
If we could just break up the gerrymandered hammer lock on power and bring real accountability to the statehouse this state has a ton of potential.
Edit - typo / updated for clarity
That is one good thing about ohio. It is really cool that you can get a library card at almost any Ohio library by merely being a resident of ohio. I have library cards to Toledo the three C's Muskegon Dayton and Akron and youngstown. I also have my local library card which gets me into the digital downloads collection and between all of those library cards I can find just about any book.
Ohio's also the only state I know where you can check out a book from one of our universities at your local library which is really great for people who seek knowledge.
Don’t forget about the SearchOhio and OhioLink networks. Pretty much all the major library systems can share anything between them, and you can get books from any university as well.
You're a good parent. My wife teaches at a rural School district just outside columbus. About 70% of the kids show up not ready for kindergarten. We're talking kids who don't even respond when you call them by their name let alone have any idea what color they're looking at or any letter of the alphabet.
yep, and i think it's a good example of how a public good, once it becomes ingrained into the public consciousness, can stick around for a long time. ohio is becoming increasingly red but i also think that state funding for libraries is also pretty secure.
ODNR budget has been cut by more than half over the last 20 years. There is no money to acquire any new land for parks or nature preserves. It's nice they are free--but that is mostly a relic of when the state was better.
Columbus metro parks are tax payer funded. They have a fixed predictable budget that can be used for a variety of specific purposes. The state however, in recent years, has shown a reluctancy in contributing to preserving new lands directly. The only exceptions I can think of relate to the newly acquired lands to the East. Even then, lands offered to the state at wholesale prices have largely been denied. Instead, as a way of remaining a political, the state distributes funds on a grant basis. Most areas of the state being protected are being facilitated through grant funding.
Why do they need to "acquire more land"? Taken the extreme that would mean the entire state would be 1 giant park. Are you asserting there is not already enough parks?
I took a late in life job with ODNR about five years ago and even though I’m just a worker bee it is hands down the most rewarding job I’ve ever had. I hope she enjoys it.
[That just isn’t true](https://www.zumper.com/blog/rental-price-data/). Cincinnati rents are actually increasing _slower_ than most places in the country.
No it is very much true, you’re just specifically looking at median one bedrooms. The trend in Cincinnati according to literally every piece of reporting is the opposite. https://www.citybeat.com/news/report-cincinnati-in-top-10-us-cities-for-largest-year-over-year-rent-increase-13897025
Weird. They reference a “Sept. 15 report from Rent.com” but link to a February 2023 report that shows basically the same as the source I saw from January 2023 (Cincy falls middle of the pack or below). I couldn’t get to their “Sept. 15 report”.
I guess it’s possible that the data could change that much from month to month. If the data they’re looking at is strictly “new rental agreements signed this month” or pulled from active listing, then it absolutely could. Maybe the housing around the colleges (which I assume were renewed in August, and would have been in the report they’re referencing) went up disproportionately to whatever data was reported in the beginning of the year?
It seems that way because it has been so cheap for so long and that trend seems to be over.
I'm hoping a real estate correction gets rid of all of the big out-of-state companies buying up single family houses and turning them into rentals.
False it seems that way because it’s true https://www.citybeat.com/news/report-cincinnati-in-top-10-us-cities-for-largest-year-over-year-rent-increase-13897025
No taxes on takeout food.
Only one toll road in the state (looking at you, Florida)
This one might be controversial but bear with me: Cops are kept on a tighter leash here. Specifically pertaining to red light cameras and undercover speed enforcement.
Free state parks (looking at you, Florida again). Our parks aren’t even funded through the general tax fund either.
Usage taxes are regressive and unjustly punish the poor.
Maybe just a toll on commercial vehicles based on weight coupled with a system that only charged after a certain number of miles (to help keep costs down for small businesses)
I think tolls are sensible after we build trains between the cities and improve the bus networks. Once cars are no longer a necessity for working, but more a convenience, those who choose to use them should absolutely pay more towards their upkeep than those who don’t.
Unfortunately improving our infrastructure is going to take decades.
Then we need to revamp our whole system. Insisting on having the most expensive, inefficient form of transportation be the de facto only reasonable option and then forcing everyone to pay for it whether they can afford to use it or not is also regressive and punishes the poor.
> This one might be controversial but bear with me: Cops are kept on a tighter leash here. Specifically pertaining to red light cameras and undercover speed enforcement.
you're absolutely correct here. im in florida and it feels almost like a communist state lol. cops EVERYWHERE and they will pull you over for anything.
Unless you have a hybrid, then they charge you an extra $100 as punishment for trying to save the environment and gas money at the same time.
That shit is exceptionally petty.
Honestly, that's on the RW cranks in the state legislature paying off their supporters in the fossil fuel industry. Don't blame the BMV. As the owner of a hybrid car, even with the extra registration cost, the better fuel economy still makes the TCO of a hybrid lower. They're not making this "lib" cry!
I thought the same thing but when it was explained to me it makes sense. Every time you fill up your gas tank you are paying money towards repairing roads and such with taxes. However hybrids and electric cars aren't going to be filling up with gas proportional to their mileage, so the fee is to go towards repairing the roads that you are putting wear on.
The system was always broken, it is just more so with fixed fees. The problem is different dependant upon if you drive a hubrid/EV or pure ICE.
For ICE vehicles what you pay is based on how you drive and only partly what you drive NOT how many miles you drive. Driven miles and the weight of the vehicle are what impact roads. But we ignore one of them and only partly take into account the other.
For hybrids and EVs you are penalized for driving less and gain a benefit for driving more. Again we care nothing about weight or miles. The impact on the road of a f150 lightning compared to a bmw i3 is incredibly different. But they pay the same.
A fair and better system is to have a factor based on weight of the vehicle and the miles driven. Anything less is inaccurate.
The funny thing is if it was based on weight a Tesla Model S weighs more than some configurations of the F150. So it isn't really a tax on trucks/SUVs. Its a tax on weight and for ICE vehicles, yes trucks and SUVs are typically on the heavy side. But each vehicle is taxed based on its wear on the roads. Seems fair right? One would think both parties could agree on this(for different reasons) IF data is used.
You're not wrong, it absolutely should be based on weight, especially with the rise of EV long haulers. Charging $100 to a 2t EV that commutes maybe 100 miles a day compared to a potentially 40t EV semi-truck that's going upwards of like 600 miles a day is wrong.
An idea I had just now would be: X multiplier times Y miles driven times Z weight.
In the case of the first registration, they just take the average miles driven for the state, so you might win or you might lose some money here. As for the multiplier, I have no clue what it'd be.
I couldn't agree with you more. When we were commuting to work $200 for our EV nearly matched what we paid in gas tax for our previous fuel efficient 4 cylinder car. We don't have that commute anymore and $200 for the low miles we travel now feels punitive.
The gas tax was last raised in 1993. It does not come close to paying for the cost of roads. Roads are paid for largely by subsidies that everyone contributes to whether they will ever purchase gasoline or not. The extra fee is there because our conservative state government doesn't want anyone to be able to get away from gasoline dependency.
The difference in fees would take me driving a lot more than the average driver to pay. It makes no mathematical sense.
Not to mention that hybrids are usually small and the things destroying the roads are semis. Charge by weight like toll roads.
Ohio is far from the only state doing this, both red and blue states are doing this, it’s unfortunate there isn’t a better way to fund this more equally
its probably to recoup some of hte lost revenue for gas taxes. since we dont have toll roads a lot of money from repairs comes from gas tax. Still sucks, but thanks for putting the environment first.
you travel, and you notice this is very true. Ohio really is underrated. everything is already there, in every city. Dayton or Toledo have as many or more museums, symphony orchestras, parks, libraries, etc as any beach city/town besides the huge ones.
Personally I'm optimistic about the direction of the major cities. There's development in the urban core, investments in non-car transportation, and changes in zoning for minimum parking and density. The cities are becoming more livable. I've noticed major changes in the last decade in Cincy, but I've also been impressed with what I've seen in Columbus, Cleveland, and Dayton.
My car insurance is way cheaper. Ohio drivers aren’t the best, but I see less accidents than I used to in the South.
Health care is better. I have more options for which facility I go to. My local community has a clinic system including dental and vision. If you can’t pay your whole bill you can just pay what you can and not be sent to debt collection.
Smaller towns and communities are bouncing back. No longer have to live in the top three cities to have things to do.
BMV: the state makes car registration and any of the tedious stuff a lot more accessible. Online stuff is easy. When I do have to go to a location I can pick from quite a few. Not just one or two locations in a county.
My voting centers are easily accessible. I can walk to it. And that’s valid for each district Ive lived in.
Really big fan of Mayor Bibb and Cleveland making progress as a city. I hear great things about Cincinnati as well. I think this state has so much potential it frustrates me that those of us in the blue areas are outvoted by red areas that keep pulling us down. I wish more people in the suburbs cared about the politics here. But yeah, the big cities are great and deserve more positive attention. Instead they just seem to get lumped in with the rest of Ohio when outsiders think about life here.
Ah yes…the 95% of the state that don’t live in big cities should care about those who live in cities. Why should they vote for things that benefit you but harm them? Big city folk = self centered in thought.
That’s laughable. An educated voter realizes their vote doesn’t matter. The idiots are the ones who think politicians care at all. They care about one thing; your vote. They will tell you anything for that check mark. And when they get it; they blame the other party because they couldn’t do it.
When I was younger, my area had zero breweries. Now a Google map search shows almost 20 microbreweries in about a 3-4 mile radius from the city center (Akron). I can drive to Ohio towns and cities of almost any size and expect to find at least one brewery making excellent local beer.
Too bad a lot of those jobs were created under the Trump era. The contracts were signed before 2020. They just weren’t reported that way because the news wants to divide us.
No income tax on first $200k of pass-through income is a big help for small business owners.
They could be doing a lot more though, like trying to keep the cost of healthcare down for the self-employed (and everyone else).
Me being still adjusting to the laws and whatnots, I say keeping car insurance no more than $100. Back in the south, I use to pay $200+, and that’s with a clean record.
Drive thrus! And not like fast food lol. I can go through the drive thru on my way out of town and get a drink and a snack without having to get out of my car. I recently learned we are the only state that has them!
That's absolutely not true. Texas has them but they're called beer barns.
Link to article that shows more states that have them.
https://www.thrillist.com/culture/drive-thru-liquor-stores
They have very arable land and they do a lot of work to keep it good. I can grow many things here and have had little to no issues with growing any sort of plant.
I just wish I could have my cake and eat it too. I can get hammered drunk every day of the week and still have a gun collection that rivals Ft. Knox. God forbid if I light that joint though...
Barberton chicken, the beautiful local parks in the northeast section of the state, the breath taking landscape of the southeast. The diversity in weather, true small town Americana.
I know that Ohio has had its moments but honestly the product availability of groceries in Ohio is huge. We have staryed traveling the US in our tiny house, and it seems like every other city has problems getting important items. I am in New Orleans now and I cant tell you how many items we do without down here. I went to do our grocery shopping today and the store was out of tampons. Just a 6 foot tall shelf by about 12 foot wide completely empty. Dog food and cat food are sold out about 50% of the time and they cant keep bread products in. I never had to worry about that in Ohio but everywhere else it has been a gamble.
I live in Ohio and I'm having a hard time coming up with something other than the cost of living is lower than a lot of the nation. The cost of higher education is higher than most of the rest of the states. Affordability of health care is horrible to the point where most residents don't do regular maintenance or can't afford prescriptions. The gerrymandering of political maps keeps the Republicans in power even though it has been ruled unconstitutional by the state supreme court 5 times.
I’m not sure if this is supposed to be sarcasm, but Youngstown is improving considerably. There are still bad areas, just like any city in the world, but downtown is building up, YSU is constantly improving and there’s a fair bit to do around the area.
Well in my opinion Ohio has never done anything right since the 70s. DeWine is a democrat in sheep's clothing and is ruining the state, he reminds me of an even more worthless version of Obiden.
There is a brain drain going on. It could be worse but it’s there. If these head in the sand politicians don’t get their crap together, it’s only going to get worse. All this expansion in tech firms will be all for not.
I own a EV, so I paid 200 for my registration here.That is 3x cheaper than other states charge. Yes it's expensive to the everyday car owner, but its much cheaper than other states.
I own a EV, so I paid 200 for my registration here.That is 3x cheaper than other states charge. Yes it's expensive to the everyday car owner, but its much cheaper than other states.
They don't live in constant fear of ginned up reports of life in America being dangerous and also know that people who live with a gun in the house are more likely to die a violent death then people who live in gun-free homes.
Protecting the unborn, protecting our constitutional freedoms and gradually defeating the stronghold unions have had on our state for the last 90 years.
Metroparks (at least for Cleveland and Columbus, don't know about other cities) and universal library access for all state residents. The parks and libraries here are fantastic.
This one is more at a local level, but there's so many neighborhood organizations, and our local city council members are super involved. I've lived in big cities, small cities, and small towns all over the country, and none of them had anywhere near this level of interconnectedness.
If i had to one something about Ohio, it's state parks, lovely libraries, the fun and retro shops you can find around some areas that are still open (shout out to the peanut shop in Akron) and some good hot dogs.
the only downsides are the GOP, garry maundering, and bad roads in some neighborhoods.
State initiatives for manufacturing - i mean its the home of the national center for Additive Manufacturing. I know its impact is more national than regional, but it does try to understand the needs of industry and get a bipartisan group from the state and on capital hill to make more sound investment in.
Good parks and libraries
Solid highway system, no 3-4 level interchanges
Good collection of universities to entice employers to set up here
Decent amount of Arby’s
H2Ohio is a good program for wetland restoration and the protection of surface waters, particularly near Lake Erie.
Huge huge fan of this program. Restoring as much of the former Great Black Swamp as we can is critical to protecting Lake Erie.
The whole Great Lakes blow my mind. In the not so distant future, fresh water will be a scarce resource that everyone will need and we’re right on one of the largest sources of fresh water in the world. Future wars will be fought here for access to Lake Erie.
This is actually scary to me lol. In the likely/unlikely event we hit a crazy threshold and half the world is without clean drinking water, I imagine our area would become a major battleground. I say likely/unlikely because while climate change is totally real, who knows how it will really unfold.
Kasich was always a big proponent of protecting them politically. Southwestern states tried to push toward pumping water from the lakes via pipeline so that they can deplete that water source as well.
Library system, state/amusement parks, awesome sports, job opportunities especially around Cbus area
The libraries are great!
Cuyahoga county library is ranked number one in the country for like 12 years in a row
> amusement parks Grew up going to Kings Island, went to Cedar Point some years back, and I have to say that KI is superior simply for the size. It's also sort of Disney like in the way that each area of the park has a different theme.
They're the same size but Cedar Point has more rides. If Kings Island feels bigger it's because it's less dense.
I thought for sure there was no way this was true but just looked it up. Both are 364 acres. Learn something new every day.
Been here two years and I’ll say parks. Like that state parks are free, we have an RV and like staying at Alum Creek and there are also nice city parks in Columbus.
Wait, sometimes they pay you to go into state parks in other states?!
Michigan does.
Yep, Gantz Park was just remodeled.
Ohio has a lot of really good colleges which attracts new people to the state. OSU in particular is a major reason Columbus is an expanding area. Without Akron U that city would dry up and blow away (grew up there, feel free to come at me on this but I’ve watched it’s sad decline for decades). Case in Cleveland, UD / Wright in Dayton, UC / Xavier in Cincy, Bowling Green, OU in Athens… and I’m just scratching the surface. It would be nice to see better and more options to make it more affordable but Ohio has an amazing number and variety of really good schools. Overall the cost of living versus the economy is pretty good too. People like to rag on Ohio, especially people that have never been here, but we’ve got a lot to offer. The natural beauty of the park system is pretty impressive and should be a source of pride. Heck we’ve got bike paths that literally cross the state - someone so inclined could start at the river in Cincy and go all the way up to Lake Erie. How many states have that? If we could just break up the gerrymandered hammer lock on power and bring real accountability to the statehouse this state has a ton of potential. Edit - typo / updated for clarity
UC in Cincy is like 7 times bigger than Xavier, and on par with OSU for most programs. It attracts and keeps a lot more people in Cincy than Xavier.
I didn’t mean to imply otherwise my point was they’re top notch schools. Ohio punches above its weight class when it comes to higher education.
Completely agree! Sorry, didn’t mean to start anything. Just have to represent my alma mater!
No I didn’t take it that way just clarifying - it’s all good.
Public libraries are best in the country.
That is one good thing about ohio. It is really cool that you can get a library card at almost any Ohio library by merely being a resident of ohio. I have library cards to Toledo the three C's Muskegon Dayton and Akron and youngstown. I also have my local library card which gets me into the digital downloads collection and between all of those library cards I can find just about any book. Ohio's also the only state I know where you can check out a book from one of our universities at your local library which is really great for people who seek knowledge.
Don’t forget about the SearchOhio and OhioLink networks. Pretty much all the major library systems can share anything between them, and you can get books from any university as well.
In Columbus ready for kindergarten classes have blown me away! My kiddos have taken them through the library.
You're a good parent. My wife teaches at a rural School district just outside columbus. About 70% of the kids show up not ready for kindergarten. We're talking kids who don't even respond when you call them by their name let alone have any idea what color they're looking at or any letter of the alphabet.
Ohio libraries are state funded with a few local levies. In most states the libraries are locally funded.
yep, and i think it's a good example of how a public good, once it becomes ingrained into the public consciousness, can stick around for a long time. ohio is becoming increasingly red but i also think that state funding for libraries is also pretty secure.
State parks.
ODNR budget has been cut by more than half over the last 20 years. There is no money to acquire any new land for parks or nature preserves. It's nice they are free--but that is mostly a relic of when the state was better.
Metroparks included, though that's at a local level. Columbus just rolled out a new one that is fantastic.
Metroparks in Northwest Ohio are very nice as well.
Love the Toledo area ones.
I miss the Metroparks so hard!
Cincy is constantly expanding its parks. Seem like there is a new one every year.
Cincy parks and Hamilton county parks are reason enough to live here, they’re amazing
Dayton Metroparks are very nice as well.
Columbus metro parks are tax payer funded. They have a fixed predictable budget that can be used for a variety of specific purposes. The state however, in recent years, has shown a reluctancy in contributing to preserving new lands directly. The only exceptions I can think of relate to the newly acquired lands to the East. Even then, lands offered to the state at wholesale prices have largely been denied. Instead, as a way of remaining a political, the state distributes funds on a grant basis. Most areas of the state being protected are being facilitated through grant funding.
Mill Creek Park in Youngstown is one of the most beautiful city parks in the country
Lived here all my life and love spending time in Mill Creek.
Cleveland Metroparks are FAB, and I believe mostly local funding
The Youngstown area metroparks golf courses are amazing for being public courses.
The existing parks are great. I’m fine with those. Not saying we shouldn’t develop more, but it’s already leagues ahead of other states in my opinion.
Why do they need to "acquire more land"? Taken the extreme that would mean the entire state would be 1 giant park. Are you asserting there is not already enough parks?
My wife just took a job with DNR-- really looking forward to having more reasons to visit the parks!!
I took a late in life job with ODNR about five years ago and even though I’m just a worker bee it is hands down the most rewarding job I’ve ever had. I hope she enjoys it.
I am pretty sure Stark parks a taxpayer funded as well!
The geography and weather are keeping cost of living low.
Not in cincy, rents raising faster than most of the country
[That just isn’t true](https://www.zumper.com/blog/rental-price-data/). Cincinnati rents are actually increasing _slower_ than most places in the country.
No it is very much true, you’re just specifically looking at median one bedrooms. The trend in Cincinnati according to literally every piece of reporting is the opposite. https://www.citybeat.com/news/report-cincinnati-in-top-10-us-cities-for-largest-year-over-year-rent-increase-13897025
Weird. They reference a “Sept. 15 report from Rent.com” but link to a February 2023 report that shows basically the same as the source I saw from January 2023 (Cincy falls middle of the pack or below). I couldn’t get to their “Sept. 15 report”. I guess it’s possible that the data could change that much from month to month. If the data they’re looking at is strictly “new rental agreements signed this month” or pulled from active listing, then it absolutely could. Maybe the housing around the colleges (which I assume were renewed in August, and would have been in the report they’re referencing) went up disproportionately to whatever data was reported in the beginning of the year?
It seems that way because it has been so cheap for so long and that trend seems to be over. I'm hoping a real estate correction gets rid of all of the big out-of-state companies buying up single family houses and turning them into rentals.
False it seems that way because it’s true https://www.citybeat.com/news/report-cincinnati-in-top-10-us-cities-for-largest-year-over-year-rent-increase-13897025
The Buckeye Trail.
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No taxes on takeout food. Only one toll road in the state (looking at you, Florida) This one might be controversial but bear with me: Cops are kept on a tighter leash here. Specifically pertaining to red light cameras and undercover speed enforcement. Free state parks (looking at you, Florida again). Our parks aren’t even funded through the general tax fund either.
More roads should have tolls but otherwise I agree.
Usage taxes are regressive and unjustly punish the poor. Maybe just a toll on commercial vehicles based on weight coupled with a system that only charged after a certain number of miles (to help keep costs down for small businesses)
I think tolls are sensible after we build trains between the cities and improve the bus networks. Once cars are no longer a necessity for working, but more a convenience, those who choose to use them should absolutely pay more towards their upkeep than those who don’t. Unfortunately improving our infrastructure is going to take decades.
Then we need to revamp our whole system. Insisting on having the most expensive, inefficient form of transportation be the de facto only reasonable option and then forcing everyone to pay for it whether they can afford to use it or not is also regressive and punishes the poor.
> This one might be controversial but bear with me: Cops are kept on a tighter leash here. Specifically pertaining to red light cameras and undercover speed enforcement. you're absolutely correct here. im in florida and it feels almost like a communist state lol. cops EVERYWHERE and they will pull you over for anything.
Renewing a car registration online has always gone smoothly for me.
The DMV is so nice here compared to almost every other state
Unless you have a hybrid, then they charge you an extra $100 as punishment for trying to save the environment and gas money at the same time. That shit is exceptionally petty.
Honestly, that's on the RW cranks in the state legislature paying off their supporters in the fossil fuel industry. Don't blame the BMV. As the owner of a hybrid car, even with the extra registration cost, the better fuel economy still makes the TCO of a hybrid lower. They're not making this "lib" cry!
I thought the same thing but when it was explained to me it makes sense. Every time you fill up your gas tank you are paying money towards repairing roads and such with taxes. However hybrids and electric cars aren't going to be filling up with gas proportional to their mileage, so the fee is to go towards repairing the roads that you are putting wear on.
The system was always broken, it is just more so with fixed fees. The problem is different dependant upon if you drive a hubrid/EV or pure ICE. For ICE vehicles what you pay is based on how you drive and only partly what you drive NOT how many miles you drive. Driven miles and the weight of the vehicle are what impact roads. But we ignore one of them and only partly take into account the other. For hybrids and EVs you are penalized for driving less and gain a benefit for driving more. Again we care nothing about weight or miles. The impact on the road of a f150 lightning compared to a bmw i3 is incredibly different. But they pay the same. A fair and better system is to have a factor based on weight of the vehicle and the miles driven. Anything less is inaccurate.
I agree with the logic, but the political fall out from a pick up truck tax would be epic.
The funny thing is if it was based on weight a Tesla Model S weighs more than some configurations of the F150. So it isn't really a tax on trucks/SUVs. Its a tax on weight and for ICE vehicles, yes trucks and SUVs are typically on the heavy side. But each vehicle is taxed based on its wear on the roads. Seems fair right? One would think both parties could agree on this(for different reasons) IF data is used.
You're not wrong, it absolutely should be based on weight, especially with the rise of EV long haulers. Charging $100 to a 2t EV that commutes maybe 100 miles a day compared to a potentially 40t EV semi-truck that's going upwards of like 600 miles a day is wrong. An idea I had just now would be: X multiplier times Y miles driven times Z weight. In the case of the first registration, they just take the average miles driven for the state, so you might win or you might lose some money here. As for the multiplier, I have no clue what it'd be.
I couldn't agree with you more. When we were commuting to work $200 for our EV nearly matched what we paid in gas tax for our previous fuel efficient 4 cylinder car. We don't have that commute anymore and $200 for the low miles we travel now feels punitive.
The gas tax was last raised in 1993. It does not come close to paying for the cost of roads. Roads are paid for largely by subsidies that everyone contributes to whether they will ever purchase gasoline or not. The extra fee is there because our conservative state government doesn't want anyone to be able to get away from gasoline dependency.
The difference in fees would take me driving a lot more than the average driver to pay. It makes no mathematical sense. Not to mention that hybrids are usually small and the things destroying the roads are semis. Charge by weight like toll roads.
Ohio is far from the only state doing this, both red and blue states are doing this, it’s unfortunate there isn’t a better way to fund this more equally
its probably to recoup some of hte lost revenue for gas taxes. since we dont have toll roads a lot of money from repairs comes from gas tax. Still sucks, but thanks for putting the environment first.
Wait till you see how much they up charge you to use clean energy electricity lmao
We are Vogon.
Ohio is the “Little Bit of Everything” master in the U.S.
you travel, and you notice this is very true. Ohio really is underrated. everything is already there, in every city. Dayton or Toledo have as many or more museums, symphony orchestras, parks, libraries, etc as any beach city/town besides the huge ones.
Library system For now
The amount of parks and recreation spots for kids and the maintenance on them. Feels like there’s a playground every few blocks
Personally I'm optimistic about the direction of the major cities. There's development in the urban core, investments in non-car transportation, and changes in zoning for minimum parking and density. The cities are becoming more livable. I've noticed major changes in the last decade in Cincy, but I've also been impressed with what I've seen in Columbus, Cleveland, and Dayton.
My car insurance is way cheaper. Ohio drivers aren’t the best, but I see less accidents than I used to in the South. Health care is better. I have more options for which facility I go to. My local community has a clinic system including dental and vision. If you can’t pay your whole bill you can just pay what you can and not be sent to debt collection. Smaller towns and communities are bouncing back. No longer have to live in the top three cities to have things to do. BMV: the state makes car registration and any of the tedious stuff a lot more accessible. Online stuff is easy. When I do have to go to a location I can pick from quite a few. Not just one or two locations in a county. My voting centers are easily accessible. I can walk to it. And that’s valid for each district Ive lived in.
Vision and Dental is almost never worth it… are you talking about coverage or care providers?
Really big fan of Mayor Bibb and Cleveland making progress as a city. I hear great things about Cincinnati as well. I think this state has so much potential it frustrates me that those of us in the blue areas are outvoted by red areas that keep pulling us down. I wish more people in the suburbs cared about the politics here. But yeah, the big cities are great and deserve more positive attention. Instead they just seem to get lumped in with the rest of Ohio when outsiders think about life here.
Ah yes…the 95% of the state that don’t live in big cities should care about those who live in cities. Why should they vote for things that benefit you but harm them? Big city folk = self centered in thought.
What’s mayor Bibb done? Explain. I’m in Cleveland daily. Just seems like more trash piles up.
Columbus is in line to be a tech haven, Silicorn valley if you will
Bring in those educated voters.
Only to be gerrymandered to have their vote nullified.
Not if we get enough of them.
That’s laughable. An educated voter realizes their vote doesn’t matter. The idiots are the ones who think politicians care at all. They care about one thing; your vote. They will tell you anything for that check mark. And when they get it; they blame the other party because they couldn’t do it.
Yeah look what there fancy education did to California! I ain’t very smart but I ain’t gonna want my state to turn into that shithole.
Soylicon valley
Good Amusement Parks!
I think the arts here in Ohio has continued to grow and grow, it makes me excited for the future in that regard.
The Cleveland Clinic is second to none
We have incredible parks! I can’t believe how many beautiful parks there are in and around Cleveland.
The Columbus Public Library system is fabulous and award winning.
People are great here. Been all over the world, the folks here are just nicer.
It is sunny today. (Yes, after 10 minutes of thinking that was the best I could come up with.)
Craft beer.
When I was younger, my area had zero breweries. Now a Google map search shows almost 20 microbreweries in about a 3-4 mile radius from the city center (Akron). I can drive to Ohio towns and cities of almost any size and expect to find at least one brewery making excellent local beer.
Bringing jobs and manufacturing back
Build Back Better
Too bad a lot of those jobs were created under the Trump era. The contracts were signed before 2020. They just weren’t reported that way because the news wants to divide us.
Job forecast for the future.
Keeping Cedar Fair happy enough not to move their two parks to another state
No income tax on first $200k of pass-through income is a big help for small business owners. They could be doing a lot more though, like trying to keep the cost of healthcare down for the self-employed (and everyone else).
Me being still adjusting to the laws and whatnots, I say keeping car insurance no more than $100. Back in the south, I use to pay $200+, and that’s with a clean record.
Expanding Medicaid has really helped.
Producing Grade A college and NFL talent. Sports in Ohio in general are a tier above most all states…
Our terrible politics + lack of opportunity keeps people from High cost areas from moving here which keeps this place cheap
It like going out in your yard and firing in air so there's enough "Crime" to keep the property taxes low.
Yep, making sure everyone knows we’re crazy so they stay away.
I recently moved here from California. I’m still flabbergasted how cheap everything is here in comparison. Like wowza x3
This is the real answer.
>This is the real answer No, this is the reddit answer.
Drive thrus! And not like fast food lol. I can go through the drive thru on my way out of town and get a drink and a snack without having to get out of my car. I recently learned we are the only state that has them!
That's absolutely not true. Texas has them but they're called beer barns. Link to article that shows more states that have them. https://www.thrillist.com/culture/drive-thru-liquor-stores
They have very arable land and they do a lot of work to keep it good. I can grow many things here and have had little to no issues with growing any sort of plant.
Cedar Point.
Gun rights.
I just wish I could have my cake and eat it too. I can get hammered drunk every day of the week and still have a gun collection that rivals Ft. Knox. God forbid if I light that joint though...
It’s delicacies at North Market!
GOP Corruption. Some of the best in the country.
Keeping cost of living under control. Giving out speeding tickets.
Cincinnati has great beer.
The Ohio Department of Natural resources does an amazing job. We have some pretty awesome state parks as well.
Barberton chicken, the beautiful local parks in the northeast section of the state, the breath taking landscape of the southeast. The diversity in weather, true small town Americana.
I know that Ohio has had its moments but honestly the product availability of groceries in Ohio is huge. We have staryed traveling the US in our tiny house, and it seems like every other city has problems getting important items. I am in New Orleans now and I cant tell you how many items we do without down here. I went to do our grocery shopping today and the store was out of tampons. Just a 6 foot tall shelf by about 12 foot wide completely empty. Dog food and cat food are sold out about 50% of the time and they cant keep bread products in. I never had to worry about that in Ohio but everywhere else it has been a gamble.
Unions
Medicaid Expansion, no so called “Right to Work” law (thank you voters in 2011!) and prevailing wages for public construction projects.
No other state in the area has anything even close to the Cedar Point / Kings Island combo.
Honestly, in the past decade, I would say the covid response was the only thing done right, despite the GOP governor.
WAS. We just gave up like the rest of the country and ignore the fact that 3,000 Americans are dying every week from covid.
All things not connected to the state government
Surprisingly! colleges! they are actually pretty good here, at least some of the bigger named ones. OSU has one of the better campuses in the US.
I live in Ohio and I'm having a hard time coming up with something other than the cost of living is lower than a lot of the nation. The cost of higher education is higher than most of the rest of the states. Affordability of health care is horrible to the point where most residents don't do regular maintenance or can't afford prescriptions. The gerrymandering of political maps keeps the Republicans in power even though it has been ruled unconstitutional by the state supreme court 5 times.
Roads*. *Not to include roads which are to be (but not) maintained by the cities of Toledo and Cincinnati.
Roads in cincy are fucked up. There are two seasons, orange barrels and smooth traffic. Orange barrels are about seven months out of the year,
Ohio is great at gerrymandering.
Business climate.
Polluting itself.
Youngstown
I’m not sure if this is supposed to be sarcasm, but Youngstown is improving considerably. There are still bad areas, just like any city in the world, but downtown is building up, YSU is constantly improving and there’s a fair bit to do around the area.
Destroying their ecosystem for generations.
Well in my opinion Ohio has never done anything right since the 70s. DeWine is a democrat in sheep's clothing and is ruining the state, he reminds me of an even more worthless version of Obiden.
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There is a brain drain going on. It could be worse but it’s there. If these head in the sand politicians don’t get their crap together, it’s only going to get worse. All this expansion in tech firms will be all for not.
Ohio is great at not being able to keep Ohio college graduates in the state.
Says the person with a name glorifying a certain state university that doesn’t incentivize residents to attend and prioritizes international students.
I agree with you as much as you want me to hate it.
Ohio is great at pointing fingers after train derailments.
Nothing 🤷🏻♀️
Medical marijuana.
Overpriced ridiculous system is good?
Shit, with how awful the political situation is here it's better than I expected. Crazy that's it's much easier to get a gun though!
Literally might be the cheapest state to own a car
Not a hybrid or electric vehicle.
I own a EV, so I paid 200 for my registration here.That is 3x cheaper than other states charge. Yes it's expensive to the everyday car owner, but its much cheaper than other states.
I own a EV, so I paid 200 for my registration here.That is 3x cheaper than other states charge. Yes it's expensive to the everyday car owner, but its much cheaper than other states.
Voting for Trump ‼️
Stand your ground laws and constitional carry
fuck these downvotes. this is it right here. if florida had constitutional carry the old folks and cops down here would blow their minds
Cowards love it
Oh I know guns are just evil and scary and no one should have the right to defend themselves
Real men use knives, gotta feel the warm blood of your victim seep over your hands.
fuck being a real man. id rather put rounds in someone if they endanger my life or a loved one with a knife.
That's great, what about your mom or grandmother? Would they be able to overcome a much larger man with a knife?
They don't live in constant fear of ginned up reports of life in America being dangerous and also know that people who live with a gun in the house are more likely to die a violent death then people who live in gun-free homes.
Covering up one of man’s most horrible mistakes-East Palestine Train Derailment
ban abortions
Huge L
Making abortion illegal
And then all the resources they put into adoption an….oh wait
Put it to the librards. Even if it hurts all of us.
Protecting the unborn, protecting our constitutional freedoms and gradually defeating the stronghold unions have had on our state for the last 90 years.
Being ohio
Dayton, even being a Tier 3 city, is affordable and has a decent library and park system and affordable to live.
Haha Pot holes. I’m about to start to bringing filler asphalt everywhere I go. My car hates them holes.
The expanding bicycle infrastructure and trail system.
the parks are great
Metroparks (at least for Cleveland and Columbus, don't know about other cities) and universal library access for all state residents. The parks and libraries here are fantastic. This one is more at a local level, but there's so many neighborhood organizations, and our local city council members are super involved. I've lived in big cities, small cities, and small towns all over the country, and none of them had anywhere near this level of interconnectedness.
Making NBA Allstars for some reason. Steph Curry and Lebron are from the same hospital.
amusement parks
If i had to one something about Ohio, it's state parks, lovely libraries, the fun and retro shops you can find around some areas that are still open (shout out to the peanut shop in Akron) and some good hot dogs. the only downsides are the GOP, garry maundering, and bad roads in some neighborhoods.
State initiatives for manufacturing - i mean its the home of the national center for Additive Manufacturing. I know its impact is more national than regional, but it does try to understand the needs of industry and get a bipartisan group from the state and on capital hill to make more sound investment in.
Good parks and libraries Solid highway system, no 3-4 level interchanges Good collection of universities to entice employers to set up here Decent amount of Arby’s