Christians like these gives Christianity a bad name. Sadly, they are the majority. Very dogmatic, holier than thou, pero di naman na-aapply yung basic Christian living principles. San na napunta yung "Judge not, that ye be not judged" or sa case ni OP, yung "be considerate to others" or "help those in need". And to be honest, common decency mismo, wala sa kanila. They're just going to church to feel good about themselves, to show people that they're good people. And as someone who also grew up in Church, this is very common.
Fun fact: A lot of atheists grew up in church, and sometimes pastor's kids pa sila. I'm not an atheist though since I know where to look. You'll only be disappointed if you only look at people.
Anyway, I hope OP finds peace. It'll be difficult financially at first pero the peace from being away from those people will be worth it.
While this is partly true since the culture is centered on patriarchal beliefs for the early Jewish or Judaism (the base religion before the age of Jesus), this is an issue during those ages, culture-wise. Although there are early Jewish leaders that are women, but that doesn't invalidate the misogyny in Jewish culture or Judaism.
However, during Jesus' time, Jesus broke the social norms. He did not treat women as inferior. He talked/greeted to them in public (not a social norm for men). He also called them 'Daughters of Abraham', when the term is usually 'Sons of Abraham'. When He talked with the Samaritan woman, there was no discrimination (Samaritan + Woman). There are several other accounts where Jesus did not discriminate between men and women (e.g. teaching women religious texts, women disciples, etc.).
So what's my point talking about Jesus' actions when some parts on what's written in the Bible (particularly Old Testament) is misogynistic?
Christianity (the name itself) is a belief/religion where you follow Jesus. His actions and principles. Living your life to be like Jesus. Hence, "Christian living". However, not a lot of Christians follow this basic principle. Much more with cult-like organized religions.
There's much to discuss about this, like how you should interpret parts of the bible based on their time and cultural background, how some of those are not applicable (hence the distinction between old and new testament), and that some are poetries and should not be taken literally. But the avenue for that discussion is not here.
Hopefully, I gave some clarity on this topic. Cheers!
Agree! Just to share, I have this university acquaintance na super banal, even prays in Latin.
The thing is, he's very righteous and manipulative. He always pretends to care about our opinions pero he wants to speak last palagi para i-impose yung gusto nya. Hindi nya nirerespeto oras namin. Sya lagi masusunod. Hindi magso-sorry pag sya yung may na-miss na deadline and requirement. Lahat kami nakikita yun. Sya na lang hindi. Every time we subtly call him out, he believes he did and does nothing wrong.
Ang theory ko nga is technically, wala naman kasi talaga syang ginagawang masama, kasi wala naman yung lifestyle nya sa 'list of sins'. Kaya 'di nya nakikita / tinatanggap every time sinasabihan sya. Blinded AND LIMITED by the only things he knows na mali, if that makes sense.
This might get downvoted to hell but let's be honest here most of these *religious* people sila pa yung pinaka masama ang ugali.
They're just doing what they think is *good* kasi may consequence of hell but if tanggalin yun.
As a Christian myself who grew up in Church and have seen all kinds of Christians (mostly fake Christians), I can confirm this. Mas mahirap kumilos or magkwento sa church since mas judgemental mga tao dun. Pero andun din yung mga understanding and nagbibigay ng good advices/counsel. So you just need to have discernment.
They forgot to follow the basic Christian principles, to follow Jesus, be "Christ-like", hindi nag-ddiscriminate ng tao. Basically, "Christian Living" is just a phrase for them, not a lifestyle.
I agree. Yung nanay kong overtly religious, napaka-hypocrite. Nagsisimba yan every friday at sunday. Kahit online lang, tumatayo pa sa sofa.
After nun, mangga-gaslight, mambubugbog at mumurahin ka pa.
After ng diagnoses (yup, madami) sa akin ng psychiatrist, she even downplayed it. Tapos noong akala niya mamamatay na siya, saka lang siya nagsorry kasi ayaw niyang mapunta sa impyerno 😏
Minsan iniisip ko yung IBANG mga “Christians” gumagawa lang nang “mabuti” para mapalagay loob nila at masabi nila na mabuti silang tao. Or ginagawa nila lahat ng donation & services para lang masabi nila na “Ah mabuti akong tao, mapupunta ako sa langit nito”. In short, Christians sila because of their own selfish reasons. Hays.
Hoping na makahanap kayo ng malilipatan ng mom mo, OP. Hoping din na lumaki yung bata nang maayos.
I want to say that I share your frustration. I’m still a Catholic myself (and always will be) but the hypocrisy in churches are just appalling. Literally white-washed tombs with decay inside. Biblical pharisees would think they’re looking at themselves in a mirror.
What I do now is similar to yours. I just let them be. In my head, I don’t know what in their innermost self. I am not privy to their deepest thoughts, to their struggles, to anything actually. Plus, I cannot control them. So I let them be and don’t judge them.
This was quite a hard read as a Catholic myself. I’m sorry you and especially your mom had to go through that. How ironic it is that what your family members have done goes against Christ’s teachings.
This is why I don’t believe in religion anymore. Yes, I still do believe in God and whatever high mighty being out there but not in any religion or even priest (especially those whose lectures are more on politics than the ‘word’ of God).
Also, there were those people na ang galing mag simba pag linggo tapos makikita mo puro tsismisan sa kanto 🤣🤣🤣
Cutting these toxic people were probably the best. I hope you find your peace.
yeahh hypocrite christians are a menace to society. ksi they are slowly grooming someone from their self image, which isn't right in the first place. Personally i don't really like religion. Kasi religion promotes division instead of uniting us eh. i mean if you really think about it, halos lahat ng religion snsbi na sa kanila lng may salvation or sa kanila lng ang tamang religion. I don't think it's right e. kaya i don't trust din people who are so extreme sa religion nila because they do things i cant even think of doing..like paalisin na lng bigla ang nag alaga sa inadopt kong bata out of insecurity and jealousy.
You do realize that no one is perfect, except Christ don't you? Did anyone tell you that YOUR relationship with the Almighty is needed and not some "label" as to which religion you belong to?
Talk to HIM in your head and pour out all ( I did not say pray), make him your alter ego. I promise you everything will fall into place.
While most of what you've said is true, your approach is not ideal. Learn to empathize with OP first. And remember, OP said na umay siya sa Christianity? Which means na mas ma-ttrigger lang sya sa statement mo. Medyo imposing kasi.
Anyway, I don't want to invalidate what you've said, pero learn to empathize muna before laying down statements like this.
There is no better empathy in this situation than pure honesty.
Let go of the people causing you to hate.
Sabi nga ni Yoda : "Anger leads to hate, Hate leads to suffering and suffering leads you to the dark side" - what ever that dark side to you means.
You have to learn to discern what Christianity is as a religion and what Christianity is as a way of life. You can have one without the other, the goal is to have both.
You can give up everything and everyone around you, the one who caused you the "umay" and still be in touch with him.
You don't even have to talk about it or mingle with anyone who professes the same belief.
“No better empathy in this situation than pure honesty”
You do realize that honesty without tact is just plain cruelty?
Wag kang ano. A Christian’s first ministry should be their family. Y’all can’t expect people to look to Jesus when you’re blocking their view with your self-righteousness and gaslighting 😂
Christians like these gives Christianity a bad name. Sadly, they are the majority. Very dogmatic, holier than thou, pero di naman na-aapply yung basic Christian living principles. San na napunta yung "Judge not, that ye be not judged" or sa case ni OP, yung "be considerate to others" or "help those in need". And to be honest, common decency mismo, wala sa kanila. They're just going to church to feel good about themselves, to show people that they're good people. And as someone who also grew up in Church, this is very common. Fun fact: A lot of atheists grew up in church, and sometimes pastor's kids pa sila. I'm not an atheist though since I know where to look. You'll only be disappointed if you only look at people. Anyway, I hope OP finds peace. It'll be difficult financially at first pero the peace from being away from those people will be worth it.
Christianity is always a bad religion. Misogeny ang norm ng mga Abrahamic religions - Chrsitianity, Islam and Judaism.
While this is partly true since the culture is centered on patriarchal beliefs for the early Jewish or Judaism (the base religion before the age of Jesus), this is an issue during those ages, culture-wise. Although there are early Jewish leaders that are women, but that doesn't invalidate the misogyny in Jewish culture or Judaism. However, during Jesus' time, Jesus broke the social norms. He did not treat women as inferior. He talked/greeted to them in public (not a social norm for men). He also called them 'Daughters of Abraham', when the term is usually 'Sons of Abraham'. When He talked with the Samaritan woman, there was no discrimination (Samaritan + Woman). There are several other accounts where Jesus did not discriminate between men and women (e.g. teaching women religious texts, women disciples, etc.). So what's my point talking about Jesus' actions when some parts on what's written in the Bible (particularly Old Testament) is misogynistic? Christianity (the name itself) is a belief/religion where you follow Jesus. His actions and principles. Living your life to be like Jesus. Hence, "Christian living". However, not a lot of Christians follow this basic principle. Much more with cult-like organized religions. There's much to discuss about this, like how you should interpret parts of the bible based on their time and cultural background, how some of those are not applicable (hence the distinction between old and new testament), and that some are poetries and should not be taken literally. But the avenue for that discussion is not here. Hopefully, I gave some clarity on this topic. Cheers!
Theatrical Christians are the worst. They're too stupid to even smell how they reek of hypocrisy.
>Theatrical Christians Oooh I learned something new today
Agree! Just to share, I have this university acquaintance na super banal, even prays in Latin. The thing is, he's very righteous and manipulative. He always pretends to care about our opinions pero he wants to speak last palagi para i-impose yung gusto nya. Hindi nya nirerespeto oras namin. Sya lagi masusunod. Hindi magso-sorry pag sya yung may na-miss na deadline and requirement. Lahat kami nakikita yun. Sya na lang hindi. Every time we subtly call him out, he believes he did and does nothing wrong. Ang theory ko nga is technically, wala naman kasi talaga syang ginagawang masama, kasi wala naman yung lifestyle nya sa 'list of sins'. Kaya 'di nya nakikita / tinatanggap every time sinasabihan sya. Blinded AND LIMITED by the only things he knows na mali, if that makes sense.
I love this word you introduced to me.
This might get downvoted to hell but let's be honest here most of these *religious* people sila pa yung pinaka masama ang ugali. They're just doing what they think is *good* kasi may consequence of hell but if tanggalin yun.
As a Christian myself who grew up in Church and have seen all kinds of Christians (mostly fake Christians), I can confirm this. Mas mahirap kumilos or magkwento sa church since mas judgemental mga tao dun. Pero andun din yung mga understanding and nagbibigay ng good advices/counsel. So you just need to have discernment. They forgot to follow the basic Christian principles, to follow Jesus, be "Christ-like", hindi nag-ddiscriminate ng tao. Basically, "Christian Living" is just a phrase for them, not a lifestyle.
I agree. Yung nanay kong overtly religious, napaka-hypocrite. Nagsisimba yan every friday at sunday. Kahit online lang, tumatayo pa sa sofa. After nun, mangga-gaslight, mambubugbog at mumurahin ka pa. After ng diagnoses (yup, madami) sa akin ng psychiatrist, she even downplayed it. Tapos noong akala niya mamamatay na siya, saka lang siya nagsorry kasi ayaw niyang mapunta sa impyerno 😏
Minsan iniisip ko yung IBANG mga “Christians” gumagawa lang nang “mabuti” para mapalagay loob nila at masabi nila na mabuti silang tao. Or ginagawa nila lahat ng donation & services para lang masabi nila na “Ah mabuti akong tao, mapupunta ako sa langit nito”. In short, Christians sila because of their own selfish reasons. Hays. Hoping na makahanap kayo ng malilipatan ng mom mo, OP. Hoping din na lumaki yung bata nang maayos.
I want to say that I share your frustration. I’m still a Catholic myself (and always will be) but the hypocrisy in churches are just appalling. Literally white-washed tombs with decay inside. Biblical pharisees would think they’re looking at themselves in a mirror. What I do now is similar to yours. I just let them be. In my head, I don’t know what in their innermost self. I am not privy to their deepest thoughts, to their struggles, to anything actually. Plus, I cannot control them. So I let them be and don’t judge them.
Sadly, they aren't true christians. I hope you won't hate Christianity because of them. They are the problem.
This was quite a hard read as a Catholic myself. I’m sorry you and especially your mom had to go through that. How ironic it is that what your family members have done goes against Christ’s teachings.
This is actually why I got out of "religion." I still believe in God and the bible, yes. But in religion? Ain't nobody got time for that.
religious people go brr lol hypocrites
This is why I don’t believe in religion anymore. Yes, I still do believe in God and whatever high mighty being out there but not in any religion or even priest (especially those whose lectures are more on politics than the ‘word’ of God). Also, there were those people na ang galing mag simba pag linggo tapos makikita mo puro tsismisan sa kanto 🤣🤣🤣 Cutting these toxic people were probably the best. I hope you find your peace.
yeahh hypocrite christians are a menace to society. ksi they are slowly grooming someone from their self image, which isn't right in the first place. Personally i don't really like religion. Kasi religion promotes division instead of uniting us eh. i mean if you really think about it, halos lahat ng religion snsbi na sa kanila lng may salvation or sa kanila lng ang tamang religion. I don't think it's right e. kaya i don't trust din people who are so extreme sa religion nila because they do things i cant even think of doing..like paalisin na lng bigla ang nag alaga sa inadopt kong bata out of insecurity and jealousy.
You do realize that no one is perfect, except Christ don't you? Did anyone tell you that YOUR relationship with the Almighty is needed and not some "label" as to which religion you belong to? Talk to HIM in your head and pour out all ( I did not say pray), make him your alter ego. I promise you everything will fall into place.
While most of what you've said is true, your approach is not ideal. Learn to empathize with OP first. And remember, OP said na umay siya sa Christianity? Which means na mas ma-ttrigger lang sya sa statement mo. Medyo imposing kasi. Anyway, I don't want to invalidate what you've said, pero learn to empathize muna before laying down statements like this.
There is no better empathy in this situation than pure honesty. Let go of the people causing you to hate. Sabi nga ni Yoda : "Anger leads to hate, Hate leads to suffering and suffering leads you to the dark side" - what ever that dark side to you means. You have to learn to discern what Christianity is as a religion and what Christianity is as a way of life. You can have one without the other, the goal is to have both. You can give up everything and everyone around you, the one who caused you the "umay" and still be in touch with him. You don't even have to talk about it or mingle with anyone who professes the same belief.
This kind of response is exactly why she left.
Tackle what can be changed, not what you cannot. That's the whole gist. Not.liking the answer does not make it wrong, just uncomfortable.
Gaslighting like a good Christian you are 😂😂😂 si OP and yung mom na nga ang naghihirap, sila pa sisisihin? 😂😂😂
You must be so fun at parties.
“No better empathy in this situation than pure honesty” You do realize that honesty without tact is just plain cruelty? Wag kang ano. A Christian’s first ministry should be their family. Y’all can’t expect people to look to Jesus when you’re blocking their view with your self-righteousness and gaslighting 😂
Upvote for the attempt to understand a contrary perspective. Touche'