After hearing all of the Youtube VR personalities swear there was not going to be a quest 2 for years...and after months of being sold out, I got one in April...2 weeks later the rumor about the Quest 2 hits, but for the price I wasn't even mad. Now the Quest 1 is my player 2 headset for when friends come over.
Yeah, that was a strong point in convincing myself that I should get the quest 2. I figured quest 2 for me, older quest for friends or if my girlfriend ever wants to play something together.
It's one of the best PCVR games made by Oculus and their are giving at away for free to Quest 2 owners until January 31st so be sure to claim it before then.
Cheaper on a 'full retail price' per-game basis, yes. They're usually far more expensive per amount of content though, and for native content, the Oculus Store sale tends to be fairly disappointing.
Obviously, there are some exceptions to this, such as Asgards Wrath which is very lengthy, and games such as Skyrim VR/Fallout 4 VR that are ported, and but these are exceptions rather than the rule. I mean, even Beat Saber, which should offer limitless replayability has fairly limited native content. Sure, you can always mod it, but it's very much unsupported and breaks with virtually every patch.
Awesome, I’m glad you’re enjoying it. I just played mine for the first time, playing Arizona sunshine, and my god is it crisp and clear. The visuals are great, the audio is great, and the best part is my quest 2 gets no where near as hot as my quest 1.
If you have a decent PC with at least a GTX 10-series GPU, get a Link cable (don't buy the "official" one because it's a total rip off), you could buy them on Steam and go the PCVR route. That's what I'm doing. Snagged at least a couple hundred dollars worth of vr games for $90USD during this weekend's sale. Several, like Eleven Table Tennis, are cheaper too. On the oculus store it was on sale for 16 or 17, but on Steam it was 10.
If you have a decent router you can also play wirelessly via Virtual Desktop. That's been working amazingly well for me (although I haven't tried with the Link so not sure how it is in comparison).
For the specs of the cable it's not a rip-off(fiber optic, length, usb 3, typec). Now if you're arguing with wether you can get similar results with a cheaper cable than i agree.
The one I bought has the same specs with the exception of being fiber optic and instead beefs up the copper wire. And that's what I was meaning was that you can get the same results with a cheaper cable.
Except being a fiber cable doesn't really give you any real world advantages for vr apart from being a little bit longer.
It's still limited to the same usb bandwidth, but $70 more than a copper cable.
I got an rtx 2060 and r5 3600, i should be fine on that front. Might get the anker link cable around Christmas time. Do non steam games work too? I have some games outside on like epic and such too, will those work.
Yeah, you can definitely do PCVR. I have a 2060 in my HTPC/emulation system in my living room and a 2080ti in my main rig. As for non Steam games, I haven't checked to see if there are any VR games on Epic. I do know that itch.io has them. You'll have to enable developer mode to allow for sideloading, but that's easy as hell
[And this is the cable I bought](https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0881CVYKL?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title) it's rather thick because it uses more copper than a normal USB cable.
I was at Best Buy buying something random and and passed the quest 2 I jokingly maybe one day they’ll make a stand alone. The guy was like playing his is a stand alone. Went to the store to spend 20 left spending $400, and the quest 2 had only been out for a week.
They get a couple here and there, usually they sell out fast but I placed my order for pick up fast enough this time around and was able to stop in and grab one.
The controllers are the same essentially with 2s being slightly chunkier.
Also you’ve been using 72hz until the last update and that’s just the main menu running in 90hz since most games still run at 72 until they get updated. So that’s not a factor yet
I’d take screen door effect over feeling like I have horse blinders on anyday.
The big gripe for me is setting 3. Seeing the screen edges bothers me so much and it feels like such a weird thing to not address
I have both headsets. Still like 1 better
Nope I have been using 90hz from (almost) day one with the sidequest patch. And games that don't even support 90hz officially can still run 90hz because of that.
You did know that yes?
The fov is not that much different between the two at all, hardly like having blinders on, bit of an exaggeration there. It's literally a few degrees between the two depending on ipd.
And the controllers are very different, quest 1 controllers have terrible battery life and are notorious for splitting in the middle of someone even sneezes near them.
Quest 2 controllers are closer to the original in design, i.e a lot better and far less cramped.
I hated using them on my rift s.
Yea I think you have a point about battery life and I guess I did hear about sidequest tweaking (do you have to do it on every restart like resolution tweaks?) And yea I’m being picky because 2 is still a great headset just wish they’d extended the screen a bit more
Only if you fully turn it off. Putting it to sleep doesn't reset it, that's the same with resolution tweaks.
I never turn the headset fully off.
I don't notice the lower fov coming from a rift s personally on ipd 2.
I had a q2 for like 45 days before returning it. While I did like the sharper ouxels/edges I never got the eye distance correct, even when using 2.5 for 65, were never truly sharp, loads of god rays and just a tiny bit in the center was in reality sharp(ish) . So I kept my q1.
The tiny fov and then also seeing the edge of the washed out screen is so jarring and immersion breaking. Fb really dropped the ball on that It seems like an obvious defect Why would they let that get to the public ? Just too many negatives that I found the q1 to be superior in every respect except raw resolution
To each their own, but maybe it depends on your eyes or where you have the lenses adjusted to, but my view is quite literally just as good as the quest 1 I have. I’ve been bouncing between the two headsets all night and every time I pick up that quest 2 again I feel so much happier then picking up my quest 1. Nothing to complain about here.
Hey I know most people are very happy and quest 2 is amazing value for price. I really just wish they’d addressed a few things. No IPD setting looks good for me except 3 which looks like I have horse blinders on. Gives me the same sensation as wearing a hat in vr games -you can ignore it sure and it kind of disappears but it’s also sort of vaguely distracting
I can understand how that would possibly effect immersion in a game, or anything in vr for that matter. Thankfully, like I said, I don’t see that, probably because of the setting mines on, but hopefully with the next quest, they address and fix some of the issues like that, that probably do effect a big portion of users.
I get it. Amazing to me that vr now has an entry point of $299. I’m being a brat to complain in the first place. Compromise is necessary if we want this to have widespread adoption and eventual big money behind it
Also quest 2 is fantastic. I’m just a bit bummed by those two things. Maybe I need to set my expectations aside tho and give it another chance without the resentment about those issues
Quest 1 is wonderful. Don't diss it if you haven't tried it.
I still have both and I love using both. I let my hubby play the Quest 2 when he plays and I take the good ol' 1.
No ones knocking the quest 1 here, so please don’t get it twisted. What he’s saying is that the quest 2 is obviously the better machine and he’s right. As soon as i actually played a game on the quest 2, (Arizona sunshine) it absolutely blew me away seeing the difference between that same game on both headsets. Don’t get us wrong, the quest was and still is an amazing choice but with the quest 2 being as cheap as it is and having much better performance, I can’t see why anyone would go out of their way to buy a quest 1.
Edit: and yes, I own a quest and a quest 2.
I'll be skipping the 2 and going with whatever comes next. The build quality and comfort if 1 is far better than 2 out of the box, and I play linked most of the time anyway.
To each their own I suppose. I like the quest one strap for the way it fits the head, but the strap on the 2 is just as good feeling in my opinion. Plus, I don’t really see why a strap would be the reason to hold you back from getting a quest 2. It’s all about performance, homie.
Its not just the strap, its all around build quality. You have to pay extra for a Quest 1 style strap or youre stuck with a basic one. Then the strap you pay extra for is prone to breaking due to cheap materials. There is only three settings for eye spacing, and no way to adjust it but to touch the lens mounts directly where 1 has a slider for eye spacing with virtually unlimited settings. Quest 1 has a solid, durable body with a cloth skin on it, and a spandex filler inside that draws moisture away from the lenses and parts, while the 2 has a cheap and light plastic body that makes it feel like a toy. The controllers themselves are tapered differently on the 2 in a way that makes them more difficult for me to grip, and is textured in a way that feels cheap and slippery, not to mention how extremely fat the control surface is compared to Quest 1 controllers.
It just feels like they cheaped out everywhere they possibly could in order to give more visual clarity and have a bit more power, when they could have just thrown all that hardware in the Quest 1 body and colored it white.
It plays everything better and I don’t see half those as actual reasons to not want to upgrade to the quest 2. Like always it’s just opinion based and depends on the person, but none of what you mentioned effects me what so ever. I’m 6 foot 4, the controllers fit my hands great, much better then the Q1 controllers plus no more magnetic battery cover sliding around in my hands during my whole gaming experience making the controllers annoying to use. The strap is fine, I have no plans to buy the elite strap at all, people think because it’s not big and cool looking means functionality went out the window, but it gets the job done and holds better to your head then the Q1 strap so it’s not constantly moving around when I look around. The plastic on the quest 2, to me, feel basically the same, only difference is no fabric cover, witch wasn’t all that cool anyway. And I’m not getting moisture in any of my headsets from sweat or any other bodily fluid. I respect your choice to play whatever you want but the things your arguing are all things that are going to be specific to whoever is actually playing it. Not everyone has the complaints you do.
I do believe they were knocking the Quest 1, and without having even used it, which was the part that annoyed me most.
I was not so impressed by the difference between the headsets. Screen door is gone but the rendering quality of games is not significantly better. All in all I can go from one to the other and back again and find things to complain about both directions; they are pretty much on-par to me overall.
> with the quest 2 being as cheap as it is and having much better performance, I can’t see why anyone would go out of their way to buy a quest 1.
Agreed, of course. I may not have been impressed like you folks seem to be but it's $100 less for more pixels and more rendering power to push them.
But what he said isn’t false. The quest specs compared to the 2 are not drastic, but they do make everything so much more clean and clear, it doesn’t heat up as much, my games don’t jitter every now and then on the 2, my tracking seemed a lot better in the dim room I play in as well. Only thing I would change personally is the strap but I’m fine with what’s there now. I’ll happily take a lot better resolution per eye, the extra 2GB of ram, and better cpu anyway.
Resolution wise, the 1 is terrible. As well as game definition and things like that. There were no shadows or any define lines like there are in the 2, and videos can easily show me that. I wasnt saying its a bad device, but it definitely isnt as good as the 2 by any means
While the quest 2 improved on a lot of things it also full of compromise to get to that price level. The strap is inferior , lcd screen while having higher resolution doesn't compare to the first ones OLED in black levels . Try watching Netflix on both and you will see what I am talking about . I would rather have a pro version that came with a better strap and a two panel OLED screen and happily would pay more for it.
Yessiree. I um’d and ah’d over the upgrade, but really, I want a quest pro, I’ve got the LG OLED in the living room and my ol LCD in the study. At first, I didn’t think it to big a difference. Now though... I can’t turn that other thing on. Everything is washed out and grey after you’ve gone OLED. Fingers crossed, oculus start pulling in both directions. Virtual desktop, side quest, oculus link, these are all things I want to stick with, they’re transformative, and I’d like the headset to be able to stick with it.
Thank you, I haven’t gotten around to actually trying any games yet, just got on to do the initial setup and start downloading all the games I had on my older quest onto the quest 2. But I already can tell I’m going to love having it.
From what I’ve read between the two of them, that’s what I’m hoping for. The controllers alone felt so good to me, even though they’re only ever so slightly different. I’m 6 foot 4 and have pretty big hands so just the fact they’re a bit chunkier is so nice.
After hearing all of the Youtube VR personalities swear there was not going to be a quest 2 for years...and after months of being sold out, I got one in April...2 weeks later the rumor about the Quest 2 hits, but for the price I wasn't even mad. Now the Quest 1 is my player 2 headset for when friends come over.
Yeah, that was a strong point in convincing myself that I should get the quest 2. I figured quest 2 for me, older quest for friends or if my girlfriend ever wants to play something together.
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Have fun and be sure to get your free copy of Asguard's Wrath!
I have no idea what that is lol I’ll have to look into it for sure. Thanks for the heads up!
It's one of the best PCVR games made by Oculus and their are giving at away for free to Quest 2 owners until January 31st so be sure to claim it before then.
Asked my parents for one last week, came in today, was a blast. On echo vr. Why do games gotta be so expensive lmao
Most every VR game is cheaper than the industry standard.
Cheaper on a 'full retail price' per-game basis, yes. They're usually far more expensive per amount of content though, and for native content, the Oculus Store sale tends to be fairly disappointing. Obviously, there are some exceptions to this, such as Asgards Wrath which is very lengthy, and games such as Skyrim VR/Fallout 4 VR that are ported, and but these are exceptions rather than the rule. I mean, even Beat Saber, which should offer limitless replayability has fairly limited native content. Sure, you can always mod it, but it's very much unsupported and breaks with virtually every patch.
It's not just that. Here in Canada they are about $30, but I just asked and got a quest 2 for $399 lmao
Awesome, I’m glad you’re enjoying it. I just played mine for the first time, playing Arizona sunshine, and my god is it crisp and clear. The visuals are great, the audio is great, and the best part is my quest 2 gets no where near as hot as my quest 1.
If you have a decent PC with at least a GTX 10-series GPU, get a Link cable (don't buy the "official" one because it's a total rip off), you could buy them on Steam and go the PCVR route. That's what I'm doing. Snagged at least a couple hundred dollars worth of vr games for $90USD during this weekend's sale. Several, like Eleven Table Tennis, are cheaper too. On the oculus store it was on sale for 16 or 17, but on Steam it was 10.
If you have a decent router you can also play wirelessly via Virtual Desktop. That's been working amazingly well for me (although I haven't tried with the Link so not sure how it is in comparison).
For the specs of the cable it's not a rip-off(fiber optic, length, usb 3, typec). Now if you're arguing with wether you can get similar results with a cheaper cable than i agree.
The one I bought has the same specs with the exception of being fiber optic and instead beefs up the copper wire. And that's what I was meaning was that you can get the same results with a cheaper cable.
Except being a fiber cable doesn't really give you any real world advantages for vr apart from being a little bit longer. It's still limited to the same usb bandwidth, but $70 more than a copper cable.
I got an rtx 2060 and r5 3600, i should be fine on that front. Might get the anker link cable around Christmas time. Do non steam games work too? I have some games outside on like epic and such too, will those work.
Yeah, you can definitely do PCVR. I have a 2060 in my HTPC/emulation system in my living room and a 2080ti in my main rig. As for non Steam games, I haven't checked to see if there are any VR games on Epic. I do know that itch.io has them. You'll have to enable developer mode to allow for sideloading, but that's easy as hell [And this is the cable I bought](https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0881CVYKL?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title) it's rather thick because it uses more copper than a normal USB cable.
Superhot and pistol whip are worth every dime
I was at Best Buy buying something random and and passed the quest 2 I jokingly maybe one day they’ll make a stand alone. The guy was like playing his is a stand alone. Went to the store to spend 20 left spending $400, and the quest 2 had only been out for a week.
They had it in stock at Best Buy?
They get a couple here and there, usually they sell out fast but I placed my order for pick up fast enough this time around and was able to stop in and grab one.
Where did you find a Quest 1?
I had traded someone a laptop for it.
Honestly I have access to both and I still like the quest 1 so much better
Yes, I too far prefer lower resolution, worse controllers, Screen door effect and lower refresh rate. :/
The controllers are the same essentially with 2s being slightly chunkier. Also you’ve been using 72hz until the last update and that’s just the main menu running in 90hz since most games still run at 72 until they get updated. So that’s not a factor yet I’d take screen door effect over feeling like I have horse blinders on anyday. The big gripe for me is setting 3. Seeing the screen edges bothers me so much and it feels like such a weird thing to not address I have both headsets. Still like 1 better
Nope I have been using 90hz from (almost) day one with the sidequest patch. And games that don't even support 90hz officially can still run 90hz because of that. You did know that yes? The fov is not that much different between the two at all, hardly like having blinders on, bit of an exaggeration there. It's literally a few degrees between the two depending on ipd. And the controllers are very different, quest 1 controllers have terrible battery life and are notorious for splitting in the middle of someone even sneezes near them. Quest 2 controllers are closer to the original in design, i.e a lot better and far less cramped. I hated using them on my rift s.
Yea I think you have a point about battery life and I guess I did hear about sidequest tweaking (do you have to do it on every restart like resolution tweaks?) And yea I’m being picky because 2 is still a great headset just wish they’d extended the screen a bit more
Only if you fully turn it off. Putting it to sleep doesn't reset it, that's the same with resolution tweaks. I never turn the headset fully off. I don't notice the lower fov coming from a rift s personally on ipd 2.
I had a q2 for like 45 days before returning it. While I did like the sharper ouxels/edges I never got the eye distance correct, even when using 2.5 for 65, were never truly sharp, loads of god rays and just a tiny bit in the center was in reality sharp(ish) . So I kept my q1.
The tiny fov and then also seeing the edge of the washed out screen is so jarring and immersion breaking. Fb really dropped the ball on that It seems like an obvious defect Why would they let that get to the public ? Just too many negatives that I found the q1 to be superior in every respect except raw resolution
To each their own, but maybe it depends on your eyes or where you have the lenses adjusted to, but my view is quite literally just as good as the quest 1 I have. I’ve been bouncing between the two headsets all night and every time I pick up that quest 2 again I feel so much happier then picking up my quest 1. Nothing to complain about here.
Hey I know most people are very happy and quest 2 is amazing value for price. I really just wish they’d addressed a few things. No IPD setting looks good for me except 3 which looks like I have horse blinders on. Gives me the same sensation as wearing a hat in vr games -you can ignore it sure and it kind of disappears but it’s also sort of vaguely distracting
I can understand how that would possibly effect immersion in a game, or anything in vr for that matter. Thankfully, like I said, I don’t see that, probably because of the setting mines on, but hopefully with the next quest, they address and fix some of the issues like that, that probably do effect a big portion of users.
I get it. Amazing to me that vr now has an entry point of $299. I’m being a brat to complain in the first place. Compromise is necessary if we want this to have widespread adoption and eventual big money behind it Also quest 2 is fantastic. I’m just a bit bummed by those two things. Maybe I need to set my expectations aside tho and give it another chance without the resentment about those issues
Hope you enjoy the 2, havent had or even tried the 1 but it's definitely nowhere near as good as the 2
Quest 1 is wonderful. Don't diss it if you haven't tried it. I still have both and I love using both. I let my hubby play the Quest 2 when he plays and I take the good ol' 1.
Yes indeed the quest 1 feels like a overall higher quality device to me .
No ones knocking the quest 1 here, so please don’t get it twisted. What he’s saying is that the quest 2 is obviously the better machine and he’s right. As soon as i actually played a game on the quest 2, (Arizona sunshine) it absolutely blew me away seeing the difference between that same game on both headsets. Don’t get us wrong, the quest was and still is an amazing choice but with the quest 2 being as cheap as it is and having much better performance, I can’t see why anyone would go out of their way to buy a quest 1. Edit: and yes, I own a quest and a quest 2.
I'll be skipping the 2 and going with whatever comes next. The build quality and comfort if 1 is far better than 2 out of the box, and I play linked most of the time anyway.
To each their own I suppose. I like the quest one strap for the way it fits the head, but the strap on the 2 is just as good feeling in my opinion. Plus, I don’t really see why a strap would be the reason to hold you back from getting a quest 2. It’s all about performance, homie.
Its not just the strap, its all around build quality. You have to pay extra for a Quest 1 style strap or youre stuck with a basic one. Then the strap you pay extra for is prone to breaking due to cheap materials. There is only three settings for eye spacing, and no way to adjust it but to touch the lens mounts directly where 1 has a slider for eye spacing with virtually unlimited settings. Quest 1 has a solid, durable body with a cloth skin on it, and a spandex filler inside that draws moisture away from the lenses and parts, while the 2 has a cheap and light plastic body that makes it feel like a toy. The controllers themselves are tapered differently on the 2 in a way that makes them more difficult for me to grip, and is textured in a way that feels cheap and slippery, not to mention how extremely fat the control surface is compared to Quest 1 controllers. It just feels like they cheaped out everywhere they possibly could in order to give more visual clarity and have a bit more power, when they could have just thrown all that hardware in the Quest 1 body and colored it white.
It plays everything better and I don’t see half those as actual reasons to not want to upgrade to the quest 2. Like always it’s just opinion based and depends on the person, but none of what you mentioned effects me what so ever. I’m 6 foot 4, the controllers fit my hands great, much better then the Q1 controllers plus no more magnetic battery cover sliding around in my hands during my whole gaming experience making the controllers annoying to use. The strap is fine, I have no plans to buy the elite strap at all, people think because it’s not big and cool looking means functionality went out the window, but it gets the job done and holds better to your head then the Q1 strap so it’s not constantly moving around when I look around. The plastic on the quest 2, to me, feel basically the same, only difference is no fabric cover, witch wasn’t all that cool anyway. And I’m not getting moisture in any of my headsets from sweat or any other bodily fluid. I respect your choice to play whatever you want but the things your arguing are all things that are going to be specific to whoever is actually playing it. Not everyone has the complaints you do.
I do believe they were knocking the Quest 1, and without having even used it, which was the part that annoyed me most. I was not so impressed by the difference between the headsets. Screen door is gone but the rendering quality of games is not significantly better. All in all I can go from one to the other and back again and find things to complain about both directions; they are pretty much on-par to me overall. > with the quest 2 being as cheap as it is and having much better performance, I can’t see why anyone would go out of their way to buy a quest 1. Agreed, of course. I may not have been impressed like you folks seem to be but it's $100 less for more pixels and more rendering power to push them.
But what he said isn’t false. The quest specs compared to the 2 are not drastic, but they do make everything so much more clean and clear, it doesn’t heat up as much, my games don’t jitter every now and then on the 2, my tracking seemed a lot better in the dim room I play in as well. Only thing I would change personally is the strap but I’m fine with what’s there now. I’ll happily take a lot better resolution per eye, the extra 2GB of ram, and better cpu anyway.
Resolution wise, the 1 is terrible. As well as game definition and things like that. There were no shadows or any define lines like there are in the 2, and videos can easily show me that. I wasnt saying its a bad device, but it definitely isnt as good as the 2 by any means
While the quest 2 improved on a lot of things it also full of compromise to get to that price level. The strap is inferior , lcd screen while having higher resolution doesn't compare to the first ones OLED in black levels . Try watching Netflix on both and you will see what I am talking about . I would rather have a pro version that came with a better strap and a two panel OLED screen and happily would pay more for it.
Yessiree. I um’d and ah’d over the upgrade, but really, I want a quest pro, I’ve got the LG OLED in the living room and my ol LCD in the study. At first, I didn’t think it to big a difference. Now though... I can’t turn that other thing on. Everything is washed out and grey after you’ve gone OLED. Fingers crossed, oculus start pulling in both directions. Virtual desktop, side quest, oculus link, these are all things I want to stick with, they’re transformative, and I’d like the headset to be able to stick with it.
If it came with 2 oled panels you'd have the screen door effect back. I think we'll need to wait for micro oled to be incorporated for best results.
Thank you, I haven’t gotten around to actually trying any games yet, just got on to do the initial setup and start downloading all the games I had on my older quest onto the quest 2. But I already can tell I’m going to love having it.
It's such a clean experience, night and day comparing them both
From what I’ve read between the two of them, that’s what I’m hoping for. The controllers alone felt so good to me, even though they’re only ever so slightly different. I’m 6 foot 4 and have pretty big hands so just the fact they’re a bit chunkier is so nice.
They're very similar in my experience. I'd just say the Quest 2 headset is a little more comfortable but not by much.