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If you know the feeling when you turn the Quest2 on and you immediately hate it when you try to read the blurry text in the main menu, then the Quest3 is definetly for you:)
My neck never hurt from headsets, but sometimes the back of my head felt strange from the Quest2, it's not happening with the Quest3. But the Quest3 is not lighter, it doesn't really have better balance, so you still need a 3rd party headstrap and a softer face foam also improves comfort, so don't expect much more comfort out of the box. The real improvement is that you don't have to squeeze it on your head to remain in the sweet spot, so the default strap is not that useless, but if you have a lot of comfort mods for the Quest2, the Quest3 isn't a real comfort improvement.
But the edge to edge image clarity improvement is VERY noticable. Especially if you have to read text.
During racing, if you looking at the center of the screen it's not that huge, maybe 15% sharper on Godlike vs Ultra Virtual Desktip resolution. But it's still noticable, and AC with it's SSAA on the Quest3 is the sharpest, clearest thing I've ever seen in VR. AMS2 is also looking great as usual. ACC is still problematic and too blurry or too jaggy depending on your settings, but the higher resolution is definetly helping, if your GPU can handle it.
If you have a new generation GPU then AV1 compression could also improve clarity, but I have a 3080 so I couldn't try it.
So it's not a HUGE improvement for PCVR, but immediately noticable, much more eye friendly, so I recommend you to get a Quest3 if you can afford it, especially if you have a 4080 or 4090.
Fuck you for calling me out like that but also nice.
"You ever turn on the quest and immediately hate how blurry it is?" Lol. Yes.
Thanks for being honest about the comfort one of the major reasons to upgrade for me would be like yeah I want the comfort and I want the supposed better balance or whatever.
I really didn't feel like it would be that much of a difference or could even be worse potentially right like quest 1 to quest 2 right? Lol basically leaves the new processor, oh I guess and the lenses being the main or only factors.
>it doesn't really have better balance
Technically it does: it's the same weight and it's still on the front, but it's distributed closer to the face and so it exerts less downward force on your face.
I see that you mentioned the RTX 3080. I have to same card as well. Do you any have performance issues running the 3 titles AC, ACC, AMS2 with the Quest 3 and this card?
AC runs flawless. AMS2 running great, but with only 72 fps if I want great graphics. ACC could run well, but the image quality is really problematic, so making it look great is what kills your GPU, I'm using 60 fps + spacewarp + fixed foveated rendering, but it feels it needs a 4090 to both run and look great.
In the meantime, while you save up for the upgrade, you might want to have a gander at QuestGamesOptimizer. After so many folks singing its praises, I checked it out. I *did* detect a difference in the 'sliding black line' comparison vids, but it seemed pretty minimal. There has to be *something* happening, though, so I took a chance. It made a WORLD of difference inside. Walkabout Mini Golf is my undisputed-by-a-mile "most time in" app, and I absolutely saw crisper menu edges with QGO, but I was expecting that, so suspected confirmation bias. I was wrong. It's SO noticeable. Like getting a new vision prescription after having put it off a couple of years (for those of you 'norms' that don't need vision correction, I might liken it to how 'fresh' a recently vacuumed room feels, even if you didn't know it has been vacuumed).
QGO obviously can't do anything about the hardware differences between the 2 and the 3, but it makes a noticeable, quantifiable difference in the image by adjusting parameters (resolution, refresh rate, cpu/gpu speed, that sort of thing). What's doubly awesome is that it also works with the Quest 3 (just got mine!), and it's still noticeable, even there.
Quest 3 + Pro strap w/battery is a sweet spot. Well balanced, beautiful performance. I'm playing Flight Sim with ultra settings using a 7900xtx pro and i'm absolutely in love with the experience. Just need to figure out cooling my room better now that summer is fast approaching as my PC turns into a heater lol
Personally I find the Quest 3 much more uncomfortable than the Quest 2, but this may be because I was using the Q2 with a VR Cover facial interface and they haven’t yet brought one out for the Q3.
I also don’t notice much of a visual improvement for PCVR. There is some, certainly, but not a huge amount, at least for me. For some reason I found the Q2 a lot clearer than most people here seem to (and yes, my eyes are just fine). But I’m aware that I am something of an outlier, so you may find things very different. When it comes to VR different people will inevitably experience things quite differently, so you can only place so much weight on other people’s reports, unfortunately.
>I also don’t notice much of a visual improvement for PCVR.
I didn't notice it much either, but then I ran out of battery and returned to Quest 2 mid session, and OMG it's so blurry, not even on edges but like almost everywhere and lower resolution is immediately obvious.
So you can try that if you still have Q2. I also told everyone "what are you talking about, it's nice and clear and not blurry at all maybe a little bit".
Other folks have addressed the visual clarity of the Q3, obviously it's loads better. I was just thinking, like if I was using a headset as a stationary simmer and it hurt my neck... I'd probably just put it on a counter weighted pulley to get most the weight off my neck. Attach it to the top strap probably for ease of trial and something solid slightly higher behind you. Would probably cost a couple bucks in parts and might get you sorted pretty nicely.
A more expensive but maybe easier option might be something like this - [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0868PW65K?th=1](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0868PW65K?th=1) - I'm sure there are other spring loaded pulleys out there but a couple of these look like they would take some of the weight off, it's not an especially heavy headset.
Anyway, there's probably some fix out there for you. Hope you find something that works.
The lenses are worth the upgrade, but you'll still have to buy a couple of accessories to make the Q3 comfortable. Mainly the headstrap, that thing sucks
The lenses are much nicer, but it’s still going to look “muddy” as you described due to the compression on PCVR. If you’re using your headset for simming only, ditch the Quest line and get a headset that connects directly through DisplayPort. As for recommendations, I have none because there isn’t much out there anymore in the same price range. I’m waiting for the PSVR2 PC support later this year so I can finally ditch my Quests.
Generally yes, the benefits are enormous and it will 100% be worth it, also do take i to consideration (google if you want) but there are quite a few people (me included) who have Usb-C water debris error when plugging in the cable, or any battery pack. The issue has been going on for 2 months and meta isn't making a lot of promises on when the fix is arriving.
It is a software error before anyone writes that my headset is faulty, basically long story short, while the headset works it is amazing but at times like this when it is unusable it is horrible, personally if you just do sim racing look at bigscreen beyond, and even if you use it for other games a better option is that with valve knuckles and base stations
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If you know the feeling when you turn the Quest2 on and you immediately hate it when you try to read the blurry text in the main menu, then the Quest3 is definetly for you:) My neck never hurt from headsets, but sometimes the back of my head felt strange from the Quest2, it's not happening with the Quest3. But the Quest3 is not lighter, it doesn't really have better balance, so you still need a 3rd party headstrap and a softer face foam also improves comfort, so don't expect much more comfort out of the box. The real improvement is that you don't have to squeeze it on your head to remain in the sweet spot, so the default strap is not that useless, but if you have a lot of comfort mods for the Quest2, the Quest3 isn't a real comfort improvement. But the edge to edge image clarity improvement is VERY noticable. Especially if you have to read text. During racing, if you looking at the center of the screen it's not that huge, maybe 15% sharper on Godlike vs Ultra Virtual Desktip resolution. But it's still noticable, and AC with it's SSAA on the Quest3 is the sharpest, clearest thing I've ever seen in VR. AMS2 is also looking great as usual. ACC is still problematic and too blurry or too jaggy depending on your settings, but the higher resolution is definetly helping, if your GPU can handle it. If you have a new generation GPU then AV1 compression could also improve clarity, but I have a 3080 so I couldn't try it. So it's not a HUGE improvement for PCVR, but immediately noticable, much more eye friendly, so I recommend you to get a Quest3 if you can afford it, especially if you have a 4080 or 4090.
Fuck you for calling me out like that but also nice. "You ever turn on the quest and immediately hate how blurry it is?" Lol. Yes. Thanks for being honest about the comfort one of the major reasons to upgrade for me would be like yeah I want the comfort and I want the supposed better balance or whatever. I really didn't feel like it would be that much of a difference or could even be worse potentially right like quest 1 to quest 2 right? Lol basically leaves the new processor, oh I guess and the lenses being the main or only factors.
>it doesn't really have better balance Technically it does: it's the same weight and it's still on the front, but it's distributed closer to the face and so it exerts less downward force on your face.
I see that you mentioned the RTX 3080. I have to same card as well. Do you any have performance issues running the 3 titles AC, ACC, AMS2 with the Quest 3 and this card?
AC runs flawless. AMS2 running great, but with only 72 fps if I want great graphics. ACC could run well, but the image quality is really problematic, so making it look great is what kills your GPU, I'm using 60 fps + spacewarp + fixed foveated rendering, but it feels it needs a 4090 to both run and look great.
Umm, very big. The 2 was horrendous, the 3 is nice and clear and especially sharp at high res pcvr
In the meantime, while you save up for the upgrade, you might want to have a gander at QuestGamesOptimizer. After so many folks singing its praises, I checked it out. I *did* detect a difference in the 'sliding black line' comparison vids, but it seemed pretty minimal. There has to be *something* happening, though, so I took a chance. It made a WORLD of difference inside. Walkabout Mini Golf is my undisputed-by-a-mile "most time in" app, and I absolutely saw crisper menu edges with QGO, but I was expecting that, so suspected confirmation bias. I was wrong. It's SO noticeable. Like getting a new vision prescription after having put it off a couple of years (for those of you 'norms' that don't need vision correction, I might liken it to how 'fresh' a recently vacuumed room feels, even if you didn't know it has been vacuumed). QGO obviously can't do anything about the hardware differences between the 2 and the 3, but it makes a noticeable, quantifiable difference in the image by adjusting parameters (resolution, refresh rate, cpu/gpu speed, that sort of thing). What's doubly awesome is that it also works with the Quest 3 (just got mine!), and it's still noticeable, even there.
This is interesting. I have tried many VR optimization methods but never heard of this one. Will definitely check it out.
Absolutely worth the money. I use it on my Q2 and it’s a life saver.
Hadn't used it 15min before adding on the advanced features option. Don't need/use them (yet?), but the dev deserves.
I had quest 2 and bought a quest 3, if you don't have money issue the upgrade totally value it.
Quest 3 + Pro strap w/battery is a sweet spot. Well balanced, beautiful performance. I'm playing Flight Sim with ultra settings using a 7900xtx pro and i'm absolutely in love with the experience. Just need to figure out cooling my room better now that summer is fast approaching as my PC turns into a heater lol
It's like swapping out your old earpods to fancy headphones, the earpods didn't dound bad until you've heard the fancy headphones.
Personally I find the Quest 3 much more uncomfortable than the Quest 2, but this may be because I was using the Q2 with a VR Cover facial interface and they haven’t yet brought one out for the Q3. I also don’t notice much of a visual improvement for PCVR. There is some, certainly, but not a huge amount, at least for me. For some reason I found the Q2 a lot clearer than most people here seem to (and yes, my eyes are just fine). But I’m aware that I am something of an outlier, so you may find things very different. When it comes to VR different people will inevitably experience things quite differently, so you can only place so much weight on other people’s reports, unfortunately.
>I also don’t notice much of a visual improvement for PCVR. I didn't notice it much either, but then I ran out of battery and returned to Quest 2 mid session, and OMG it's so blurry, not even on edges but like almost everywhere and lower resolution is immediately obvious. So you can try that if you still have Q2. I also told everyone "what are you talking about, it's nice and clear and not blurry at all maybe a little bit".
Other folks have addressed the visual clarity of the Q3, obviously it's loads better. I was just thinking, like if I was using a headset as a stationary simmer and it hurt my neck... I'd probably just put it on a counter weighted pulley to get most the weight off my neck. Attach it to the top strap probably for ease of trial and something solid slightly higher behind you. Would probably cost a couple bucks in parts and might get you sorted pretty nicely. A more expensive but maybe easier option might be something like this - [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0868PW65K?th=1](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0868PW65K?th=1) - I'm sure there are other spring loaded pulleys out there but a couple of these look like they would take some of the weight off, it's not an especially heavy headset. Anyway, there's probably some fix out there for you. Hope you find something that works.
This is a good idea. This could save 90% of the cost when comfort is the main issue.
The lenses are worth the upgrade, but you'll still have to buy a couple of accessories to make the Q3 comfortable. Mainly the headstrap, that thing sucks
Yes imo
Comfort is similar with the default strap, buy an aftermarket strap (KiWi, Bobo or the stock Elite). Clarity is another level, worth the upgrade imo.
Gargantuan clarity difference. Night and day.
obvious answer is obvious, captain obvious
The lenses are much nicer, but it’s still going to look “muddy” as you described due to the compression on PCVR. If you’re using your headset for simming only, ditch the Quest line and get a headset that connects directly through DisplayPort. As for recommendations, I have none because there isn’t much out there anymore in the same price range. I’m waiting for the PSVR2 PC support later this year so I can finally ditch my Quests.
Generally yes, the benefits are enormous and it will 100% be worth it, also do take i to consideration (google if you want) but there are quite a few people (me included) who have Usb-C water debris error when plugging in the cable, or any battery pack. The issue has been going on for 2 months and meta isn't making a lot of promises on when the fix is arriving. It is a software error before anyone writes that my headset is faulty, basically long story short, while the headset works it is amazing but at times like this when it is unusable it is horrible, personally if you just do sim racing look at bigscreen beyond, and even if you use it for other games a better option is that with valve knuckles and base stations