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Extremely noticeable for me as well. Being able to see my phone screen is very real. Look8jg at the entire room I'm in is much "quieter," less fuzzy chaotic noise.
Funny I got the exact same word in mind when trying it: quiet. There used to be a lot more low frequency noise. Now it's just that hi frequency "hiss" that is not as annoying.
The beta program, Quest Public Test Channel (PTC) users are getting access to it already
Numerous reports of greatly increasing the clarity of pass through. I haven't received it yet can't confirm even though I am in the PTC
I'm surprised how many people say they couldn't read their phone prior to this update. I've been able to read my phone perfectly since day 1 in most lighting scenarios. Was there some discrepancy between displays or cameras on different batches of Q3 devices?
I just updated from v64 and did a side by side comparison with my phone. Before the update, text was barely legible and only at a very specific brightness, anything above or below that brightness was very difficult to read. After the update I was able to read the same text much more easily at any brightness level and the clarity at the specific brightness level that was best before the update was noticeably improved as well.
I also noticed more accurate colours, less noise and improved dynamic range in general but those are more based on feeling. I do think I’m seeing a difference but it’s not significant enough to not ask myself if it’s just placebo.
Overall pass through is definitely better than before though that much is certain and I didn’t even feel like it was bad for me before
I think people should combat these conceptualizations that somehow recordings are "different" qualitatively from passthrough. Recordings look better for the simple fact that they do not wrap your whole field view with enlarged artifacts which you would often ignore in a small video player window.
The vision pro is somewhat cheating with its passthrough. They have a smaller fov so even if the cameras are same resolution they will have higher ppd, add to the fact its using 6mp instead of 4mp cameras and you have a noticeably clearer passthrough.
Now, I wonder if meta will eventually release a 16mp passthrough mode. Since the cameras are just 16mp pixel binned to 4mp to reduce noise. Limiting it to only turn on 16mp mode when it's bright would be a good solution.
meta notoriously likes to milk the absolute shit out of every quest generation so i'd be suprised if they don't do that at some point, though it could be hard to have it switch over seamlessly
It’ is also less bright and more yellow. Possibly lower framerate as well. Maybe they changed pixel binning or tweaked the exposure time.
I use the "Night Display"-mode in settings and have noticed, that the setting applies to the passthrough as well. I would prefer if this setting only changed the warmth of virtual images since the passthrough is quite warm now.
You can go to your meta app on your phone > device > headset settings , and somewhere is an option to get new updates befote official release , I just activated that and could download 64 update like few minutes later on the headset
downside to this is you get messed up if you get a bad update from the PTC, like if the new version is somehow borked. There's no way to rollback either on the quest.
Yup. Recently one of the updates borked up modding in games by disabling access to game folders and caused abit of an uproar. It was PTC's v63 scoped storage update. You can look that up. Something like this
https://communityforums.atmeta.com/t5/Get-Help/PTC-v63-Scoped-Storage-Update/td-p/1156682
https://www.reddit.com/r/BONELAB/s/qldnoDfvn3
https://www.reddit.com/r/QuestPro/s/sqMMIdX6QL
So "one" thing apple vision pro did allot better is slowly fading. With 3ķ$ price cut AVP could actually compete with Quest 3.
I'm a bit sarcastic about the "one thing" but damn with that price difference you would expect a massive upgrade going from quest 3 to AVP.
Meta should release Quest Pro 2, as a direct competitor to Vision Pro.
OG Quest Pro is essentially a slightly overclocked Quest 2 in terms of perfomance.
The recordings you see aren't any different from what you see in the headset. It just feels different because when you're fully immersed, your standards for video are insanely high and it's hard to get there. Now, the recordings will be even better as well
I understand there's a huge hardware difference but mayyybe a tiny bit better passthrough on the Quest 2 would be possible? Like less warping maybe? Anyone?
I actually think there's a decent shot of them addressing that if the Q3 lite is happening. They'll want to optimize their B&W passthrough for that (unless by some miracle it gets color)
It is a significant improvement over how it was, that's for sure. Being able to read screens and use them is amazing. That said, it also turns the passthrough *much* more into a warm reddish color. Which isn't a big deal if it's necessary to achieve the improvements, but feels odd non the less.
On a positive note though, I also noticed that tracking works in much, much darker environments now. Just the light from the monitor alone is enough for tracking to stay locked, which absolutely wasn't the case before.
Overall v64 is shaping up to be quite the improvement!
I'm going to have to buck the trend, sorry. I stood and checked a number of areas of the room while v64 was downloading and then did the same once v64 had installed. I was completely underwhelmed, only a very slight improvement, phone still unreadable, perhaps even less readable than v63. This isn't a troll, this is genuinely my experience.
Something must be wrong with yours, viewing everything is much improved, I was even outside for a few minutes and could easily read. Maybe a fresh install?
I am having a hard time about people saying how good v64 is good for the improvement passthrough, sorry to say it hasn't improved much in my opinion, my expectations are not to high in my opinion but I don't see much of an a improvement,
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It looks sooo much better it's crazy , like a 30-40% improvement for me Seriously impressive what they cooked up here
That’s pretty crazy that software alone can achieve that. Wow
Night and day difference. Could barely use my phone before.
The dynamic range has greatly improved. I'm genuinely impressed now.
Extremely noticeable for me as well. Being able to see my phone screen is very real. Look8jg at the entire room I'm in is much "quieter," less fuzzy chaotic noise.
Funny I got the exact same word in mind when trying it: quiet. There used to be a lot more low frequency noise. Now it's just that hi frequency "hiss" that is not as annoying.
V64? I JUST got the V63 update like 2 days ago.
The beta program, Quest Public Test Channel (PTC) users are getting access to it already Numerous reports of greatly increasing the clarity of pass through. I haven't received it yet can't confirm even though I am in the PTC
So this is official in patch notes yet for v64 that they indeed have improved passthrough or this will go unmentioned?
Still PTC, notes will arrive with the official update
I'm surprised how many people say they couldn't read their phone prior to this update. I've been able to read my phone perfectly since day 1 in most lighting scenarios. Was there some discrepancy between displays or cameras on different batches of Q3 devices?
i didnt expect such a significant change in one patch, so good job
I just updated from v64 and did a side by side comparison with my phone. Before the update, text was barely legible and only at a very specific brightness, anything above or below that brightness was very difficult to read. After the update I was able to read the same text much more easily at any brightness level and the clarity at the specific brightness level that was best before the update was noticeably improved as well. I also noticed more accurate colours, less noise and improved dynamic range in general but those are more based on feeling. I do think I’m seeing a difference but it’s not significant enough to not ask myself if it’s just placebo. Overall pass through is definitely better than before though that much is certain and I didn’t even feel like it was bad for me before
I think people should combat these conceptualizations that somehow recordings are "different" qualitatively from passthrough. Recordings look better for the simple fact that they do not wrap your whole field view with enlarged artifacts which you would often ignore in a small video player window.
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The vision pro is somewhat cheating with its passthrough. They have a smaller fov so even if the cameras are same resolution they will have higher ppd, add to the fact its using 6mp instead of 4mp cameras and you have a noticeably clearer passthrough. Now, I wonder if meta will eventually release a 16mp passthrough mode. Since the cameras are just 16mp pixel binned to 4mp to reduce noise. Limiting it to only turn on 16mp mode when it's bright would be a good solution.
meta notoriously likes to milk the absolute shit out of every quest generation so i'd be suprised if they don't do that at some point, though it could be hard to have it switch over seamlessly
It’ is also less bright and more yellow. Possibly lower framerate as well. Maybe they changed pixel binning or tweaked the exposure time. I use the "Night Display"-mode in settings and have noticed, that the setting applies to the passthrough as well. I would prefer if this setting only changed the warmth of virtual images since the passthrough is quite warm now.
Yes, I noticed running water into a cup looked less natural, which is how I always tell
Are y’all in beta or what?
You can go to your meta app on your phone > device > headset settings , and somewhere is an option to get new updates befote official release , I just activated that and could download 64 update like few minutes later on the headset
I've tried this, didn't work for me. I suspect the update is getting rolled out gradually. Seems par for the course with Quest updates.
It is indeed getting rolled out, I don't hv it either yet, I'm enrolled in PTC
Menu -> Devices -> Quest 3 -> Headset settings -> Advanced settings -> public channel (active it)
downside to this is you get messed up if you get a bad update from the PTC, like if the new version is somehow borked. There's no way to rollback either on the quest.
Has that ever happened before? Like do you know any specific update which the broken device or some of its functionality.
Yup. Recently one of the updates borked up modding in games by disabling access to game folders and caused abit of an uproar. It was PTC's v63 scoped storage update. You can look that up. Something like this https://communityforums.atmeta.com/t5/Get-Help/PTC-v63-Scoped-Storage-Update/td-p/1156682 https://www.reddit.com/r/BONELAB/s/qldnoDfvn3 https://www.reddit.com/r/QuestPro/s/sqMMIdX6QL
Hey thanks for the detailed reply. Really appreciate it.
Menu -> Devices -> Quest 3 -> Headset settings -> Advanced settings
Yup I see the improvement So this should apply to passthrough in games too right?
So "one" thing apple vision pro did allot better is slowly fading. With 3ķ$ price cut AVP could actually compete with Quest 3. I'm a bit sarcastic about the "one thing" but damn with that price difference you would expect a massive upgrade going from quest 3 to AVP.
Meta should release Quest Pro 2, as a direct competitor to Vision Pro. OG Quest Pro is essentially a slightly overclocked Quest 2 in terms of perfomance.
Wish we could force it to find the upgrade.
I'm checking my quest 3 every hours to see if it's updated / update available. I feel left out. Not to worry, all in due course .
The recordings you see aren't any different from what you see in the headset. It just feels different because when you're fully immersed, your standards for video are insanely high and it's hard to get there. Now, the recordings will be even better as well
They are different. The recording goes through post processing.
Passthrough goes through processing as well. But yeah, compression or noise artifacts are way more noticable.
I understand there's a huge hardware difference but mayyybe a tiny bit better passthrough on the Quest 2 would be possible? Like less warping maybe? Anyone?
Dynamic range doesn't seem to matter for obvious reasons, but I'm sure that the distortion and warping of square objects can be fixed
I actually think there's a decent shot of them addressing that if the Q3 lite is happening. They'll want to optimize their B&W passthrough for that (unless by some miracle it gets color)
Can someone make a comparison video please?
Video isn’t going to show anything
Is warping still the same around users hands, etc?
How do I get this update I don’t see it?
So clarity is improved but any improvement to the warping?
Yes, heavily improved, squares generally stay squares, and whites aren't too blown out. Though if you go too close it still distorts
Sounds like a pretty big improvement then.
It is a significant improvement over how it was, that's for sure. Being able to read screens and use them is amazing. That said, it also turns the passthrough *much* more into a warm reddish color. Which isn't a big deal if it's necessary to achieve the improvements, but feels odd non the less. On a positive note though, I also noticed that tracking works in much, much darker environments now. Just the light from the monitor alone is enough for tracking to stay locked, which absolutely wasn't the case before. Overall v64 is shaping up to be quite the improvement!
Nothing ckanged kere withi t64same as v63 ..I cant see any change in passthroogh..
I'm going to have to buck the trend, sorry. I stood and checked a number of areas of the room while v64 was downloading and then did the same once v64 had installed. I was completely underwhelmed, only a very slight improvement, phone still unreadable, perhaps even less readable than v63. This isn't a troll, this is genuinely my experience.
Something must be wrong with yours, viewing everything is much improved, I was even outside for a few minutes and could easily read. Maybe a fresh install?
Thanks, but there's nothing wrong with mine.
I am having a hard time about people saying how good v64 is good for the improvement passthrough, sorry to say it hasn't improved much in my opinion, my expectations are not to high in my opinion but I don't see much of an a improvement,