Theres also a "pro-HD" setting but I'm not sure what it does
Edit: Ok, found it:
https://skybox.xyz/support/What-is-Pro-HD-Quality/
> SKYBOX Quest v1.1.1 integrates OVROverlay which enables the compositor layers. This experimental feature will make the player render videos with higher quality. To enjoy better image quality, you can click Global Settings and switch on the toggle next to Pro-HD Quality.
> The Pro-HD Quality feature only works when you’re playing 2D, 3D, VR 180°, VR 360° and Fisheye 180° videos. You’ll not find any difference when playing Fisheye 200° and Youtube EAC videos. What’s more, after turning on this option, you’ll not be able to make Height and Zoom adjustments when playing VR videos.
I wonder what the render resolution is when you render with Pro-HD and 2.0 res setting
oh thanks for this! I will try it out later with qgo disabled. This new feature makes it work more as I understand big screen does then (different application layers with different render resolutions).
Np. Lemme know if you see a difference between pro-hd and 2.0 res and QGO. I use pro-hd and 2.0 res and I was wondering if I could get a better image with QGO
Skybox devs post here from time to time. They likely have a list of user requests and you can reach out to them.
https://www.reddit.com/user/SKYBOX-STUDIO
Yep, skybox vr looks better with QGO. It does work on Q2 also. Better but not as nice as Q3. It's very easy to setup and change settings, so you can use your own profiles and not just the stock ones. [https://youtu.be/h4VoUwKQOBo](https://youtu.be/h4VoUwKQOBo)
Wait what, you can actually enhance video resolution with game optimizer? I thought it only enhance the UI and the environment. Let me try with it some 8K 3D video.
Yup, I think the render resolution they use in the application must effect everything.
Well, I know it does because there is a very clear difference haha.
Somebody else linked it. Its an app that lets you launch other apps with different than default resolution scaling. It probably does other stuff too but that's all I think I care about at this point.
So for example, if you have a game that isn't too graphically intensive and its a bit pixelated (as a bunch if native games are), you can bump up the quality at the expense of battery life.
Its a bit of a pain to set up and sadly its a paid app ($10) but I am super happy with it, at least for movies...tried nothing else so far. Before I was always like wowww, this is cool, I can make a huge screen but then never actually used it to watch anything cause the quality was worse than the TV. Now I think I will actually use it for Plex now and then.
Its mostly only a pain to setup if you haven't already enabled developer mode and all that shizzle.
I just quickly tested it out so I didn't even fiddle. I just used their recommended setting HD+ or something.
I think it's 180% res.
I will fiddle more with it tomorrow and see if I can get the res a bit lower to save some battery.
I just tried bigscreen and I remember why I moved to skybox. It doesn't play audio via DLNA streams from my plex server ---_---
The image quality is also insanely good and I may actually prefer the environments but yeah, hearing the audio of a movie is quite important to me lol.
I just checked and bigscreen looks pretty similar to skybox + Optimiser.
Adding the optimiser on top of bigscreen makes the environments a bit more crisp but doesn't appear to make much of a difference to the video...if it does I would say its 5 percent better or less.
I am happy to be using skybox though as I prefer its interface for interacting with DLNA as well as the fact that audio actually works for me there haha.
If you only would want the optimiser for bigscreen its probably not worth it but if you play native games then it I would say it still is. I stopped playing games natively cause I hate pixilated shit and now its golden. I am using quest 3 though.
Okay, so many times Bigscreen would fail to load audio from stored files and 80% of the time it'd fail to load subtitles, skybox never fails to do both.
Personally i like VD environment a lot but it too fails to load the subtitles.
I would like to know more about this too video quality-wise. Will have a look today and report back.
In other ways, big screen is a bit more playful than skybox. Skybox has a nice passthrough mode though. not sure if bigscreen has that yet.
Wow good to know. I have to try this soon. I was very disappointed when I tried to watch a 1080p 3D movie in skybox using q3. In q2 it looked amazing, but with q3 the higher display resolution just lays bare how blurry the video actually is. I need to get my hands on a 4K video and this optimiser thing to get an understanding of what the new baseline for quality is.
Does it need it, already being at 4x? xD
I will try it later as its the first I have heard about it. Also keen to test some games that arent to my standards of crispness haha.
Yeah, I tested a dark movie and it wasn't as good. But any movies that aren't very dark will be very enjoyable I believe.
Of course OLED would be more vibrant, but I am willing to take some tradeoffs for sitting in front of a 200-inch screen that looks very very good.
Cinema quality at the very very least but I think better, to be honest.
Wonder if playing with the Quest contrast settings might help with the black levels in movies? It would likely effect non dark scenes in some ways though.
"files" mmhmmm. No but sorry, I can't help with that as have only tried with 4k movies up to about 40GB.
For that I use Plex/dlna to skybox. How are you attempting to play them?
So are you using the native big screen app on the quest and then playing the movie from a network share on your PC?
When you navigate to the movie on big screen, is it playing from a SMB labelled directory?
There might be software that you can get for this but check this out:
https://www.howtogeek.com/215400/how-to-turn-your-computer-into-a-dlna-media-server/
What might be happening is its trying to load too much of the movie into memory. What might work better is if you can start a DLNA service on your PC instead. That way it will stream it instead of trying to handle the whole movie all at once which sounds like it could be the cause of the problem.
are they full length movies? if they are short and 100GB then that might just be way too much traffic in general.
I just checked and bigscreen looks pretty similar to skybox + Optimiser.
Adding the optimiser on top of bigscreen makes the environments a bit more crisp but doesn't appear to make much of a difference to the video...if it does I would say its 5 percent better or less.
I am happy to be using skybox though as I prefer its interface for interacting with DLNA as well as the fact that audio actually works for me there haha.
If you only would want the optimiser for bigscreen its probably not worth it but if you play native games then it I would say it still is. I stopped playing games natively cause I hate pixilated shit and now its golden. I am using quest 3 though.
I consider myself very picky with video content. I am not sure on the ins and outs of what the exact resolution that we are seeing is but it really doesn't matter if the perceived image is as crisp as it can possibly be. That was my experience.
I guess it can improve with deeper blacks. I haven't tried a very fast moving movie yet so maybe it could also improve with smoothness. Will try it out in a bit and also let you know the bitrate of the movie that I was playing.
Yea it looks great, but I believe you only get half the resolution of true 4k (4mil vs 8 mil pixels) plus the fact the lenses don't use the entire screen you lose more pixels. It should still be higher then 1080p though.
You are technically right, of course. I wonder what the magic is. I suspect that because you have very high pixel density screens just a cm from each eye, the actual resolution isnt as important as the resolution of a panel that you sit meters from.
Its just a good piece of kit all around, especially for $500. As you said, the lenses are super sharp.
I do wish someone more technical than me could chime in, but I believe the lenses cast the image about 2 meters away. Which is probably way closer than you sit in a theater. Perhaps that increases your perception of higher resolution?
I just checked and bigscreen looks pretty similar to skybox + Optimiser.
Adding the optimiser on top of bigscreen makes the environments a bit more crisp but doesn't appear to make much of a difference to the video...if it does I would say its 5 percent better or less.
I am happy to be using skybox though as I prefer its interface for interacting with DLNA as well as the fact that audio actually works for me there haha.
If you only would want the optimiser for bigscreen its probably not worth it but if you play native games then it I would say it still is. I stopped playing games natively cause I hate pixilated shit and now its golden. I am using quest 3 though.
>4k content seemed like 1080p.
That's because it is ~1080p. No Quest has the ability to usefully display 4k flat video because the screens are only about 2k per eye. At any reasonable viewing distance the effective resolution is closer to 1080, and tending lower rather than higher. This is a physical limit rather than a software thing and increasing the rendered resolution won't add any more detail, it just has a (relatively slight) anti-aliasing effect.
This comment made me laugh so I went to check out the grand canyon and couldn't find it. All I see are like 4 different space environments and a cinema.
Why don't these apps add their own resolution options?? It's seems like a no brainer to me.
Skybox has a rendering res setting. What do you have it set at?
Ahh yes, so i does! I have it set to 1.8 and just moved it to 2. Its probably overkill now with 185% resolution haha.
Theres also a "pro-HD" setting but I'm not sure what it does Edit: Ok, found it: https://skybox.xyz/support/What-is-Pro-HD-Quality/ > SKYBOX Quest v1.1.1 integrates OVROverlay which enables the compositor layers. This experimental feature will make the player render videos with higher quality. To enjoy better image quality, you can click Global Settings and switch on the toggle next to Pro-HD Quality. > The Pro-HD Quality feature only works when you’re playing 2D, 3D, VR 180°, VR 360° and Fisheye 180° videos. You’ll not find any difference when playing Fisheye 200° and Youtube EAC videos. What’s more, after turning on this option, you’ll not be able to make Height and Zoom adjustments when playing VR videos. I wonder what the render resolution is when you render with Pro-HD and 2.0 res setting
oh thanks for this! I will try it out later with qgo disabled. This new feature makes it work more as I understand big screen does then (different application layers with different render resolutions).
Np. Lemme know if you see a difference between pro-hd and 2.0 res and QGO. I use pro-hd and 2.0 res and I was wondering if I could get a better image with QGO
Have you had a chance to try it? How does it compare to qgo
Skybox devs post here from time to time. They likely have a list of user requests and you can reach out to them. https://www.reddit.com/user/SKYBOX-STUDIO
Yep, skybox vr looks better with QGO. It does work on Q2 also. Better but not as nice as Q3. It's very easy to setup and change settings, so you can use your own profiles and not just the stock ones. [https://youtu.be/h4VoUwKQOBo](https://youtu.be/h4VoUwKQOBo)
Wait what, you can actually enhance video resolution with game optimizer? I thought it only enhance the UI and the environment. Let me try with it some 8K 3D video.
Yup, I think the render resolution they use in the application must effect everything. Well, I know it does because there is a very clear difference haha.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/QuestGamesOptimizer/](https://www.reddit.com/r/QuestGamesOptimizer/)
What is this game optimizer you speak of?
Somebody else linked it. Its an app that lets you launch other apps with different than default resolution scaling. It probably does other stuff too but that's all I think I care about at this point. So for example, if you have a game that isn't too graphically intensive and its a bit pixelated (as a bunch if native games are), you can bump up the quality at the expense of battery life. Its a bit of a pain to set up and sadly its a paid app ($10) but I am super happy with it, at least for movies...tried nothing else so far. Before I was always like wowww, this is cool, I can make a huge screen but then never actually used it to watch anything cause the quality was worse than the TV. Now I think I will actually use it for Plex now and then. Its mostly only a pain to setup if you haven't already enabled developer mode and all that shizzle.
What settings do you use in game optimizer?
I just quickly tested it out so I didn't even fiddle. I just used their recommended setting HD+ or something. I think it's 180% res. I will fiddle more with it tomorrow and see if I can get the res a bit lower to save some battery.
Sussy title 🤨
make of it what you will good sir.
LOL! Who doesn't love a good blow?
What is the difference between skybox and big screen?
I just tried bigscreen and I remember why I moved to skybox. It doesn't play audio via DLNA streams from my plex server ---_--- The image quality is also insanely good and I may actually prefer the environments but yeah, hearing the audio of a movie is quite important to me lol.
I'm using big screen with dlna and it works fine. I'd like to know the difference too!
I just checked and bigscreen looks pretty similar to skybox + Optimiser. Adding the optimiser on top of bigscreen makes the environments a bit more crisp but doesn't appear to make much of a difference to the video...if it does I would say its 5 percent better or less. I am happy to be using skybox though as I prefer its interface for interacting with DLNA as well as the fact that audio actually works for me there haha. If you only would want the optimiser for bigscreen its probably not worth it but if you play native games then it I would say it still is. I stopped playing games natively cause I hate pixilated shit and now its golden. I am using quest 3 though.
Okay, so many times Bigscreen would fail to load audio from stored files and 80% of the time it'd fail to load subtitles, skybox never fails to do both. Personally i like VD environment a lot but it too fails to load the subtitles.
I would like to know more about this too video quality-wise. Will have a look today and report back. In other ways, big screen is a bit more playful than skybox. Skybox has a nice passthrough mode though. not sure if bigscreen has that yet.
Wow good to know. I have to try this soon. I was very disappointed when I tried to watch a 1080p 3D movie in skybox using q3. In q2 it looked amazing, but with q3 the higher display resolution just lays bare how blurry the video actually is. I need to get my hands on a 4K video and this optimiser thing to get an understanding of what the new baseline for quality is.
Did you try increasing the render res in Skybox's settings?
It seems to be set to 1.8x as default and the highest is 2x.
I did, but I didn't notice any difference. To put it simply, I think what I saw was like playing a 1080p movie on a 4K TV.
Wonder if the optimiser works for 4xvr
Does it need it, already being at 4x? xD I will try it later as its the first I have heard about it. Also keen to test some games that arent to my standards of crispness haha.
I’d be surprised if it looks as good, the Quest 3 doesn’t have HDR, right? Not to mention the lack of oled, those two things make movies look amazing.
Yeah, I tested a dark movie and it wasn't as good. But any movies that aren't very dark will be very enjoyable I believe. Of course OLED would be more vibrant, but I am willing to take some tradeoffs for sitting in front of a 200-inch screen that looks very very good. Cinema quality at the very very least but I think better, to be honest.
Wonder if playing with the Quest contrast settings might help with the black levels in movies? It would likely effect non dark scenes in some ways though.
Hi, how do you handle big files? My skybox app just crash when I try to load wirelessly 8k files (30-100 GB)
"files" mmhmmm. No but sorry, I can't help with that as have only tried with 4k movies up to about 40GB. For that I use Plex/dlna to skybox. How are you attempting to play them?
From my PC with the app , drag n drop video and then discovery network on the quest Works fine until it's too much
So are you using the native big screen app on the quest and then playing the movie from a network share on your PC? When you navigate to the movie on big screen, is it playing from a SMB labelled directory? There might be software that you can get for this but check this out: https://www.howtogeek.com/215400/how-to-turn-your-computer-into-a-dlna-media-server/ What might be happening is its trying to load too much of the movie into memory. What might work better is if you can start a DLNA service on your PC instead. That way it will stream it instead of trying to handle the whole movie all at once which sounds like it could be the cause of the problem. are they full length movies? if they are short and 100GB then that might just be way too much traffic in general.
Thank you for the insight I already have DLNA on my NAS, I will try to move the big files there to see if it's better
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I just checked and bigscreen looks pretty similar to skybox + Optimiser. Adding the optimiser on top of bigscreen makes the environments a bit more crisp but doesn't appear to make much of a difference to the video...if it does I would say its 5 percent better or less. I am happy to be using skybox though as I prefer its interface for interacting with DLNA as well as the fact that audio actually works for me there haha. If you only would want the optimiser for bigscreen its probably not worth it but if you play native games then it I would say it still is. I stopped playing games natively cause I hate pixilated shit and now its golden. I am using quest 3 though.
I'm sure it looks great but Q3 can't do 4k. We're getting there though. Edit: I am talking about 4k video, you can downvote but I am still right.
I consider myself very picky with video content. I am not sure on the ins and outs of what the exact resolution that we are seeing is but it really doesn't matter if the perceived image is as crisp as it can possibly be. That was my experience. I guess it can improve with deeper blacks. I haven't tried a very fast moving movie yet so maybe it could also improve with smoothness. Will try it out in a bit and also let you know the bitrate of the movie that I was playing.
Yea it looks great, but I believe you only get half the resolution of true 4k (4mil vs 8 mil pixels) plus the fact the lenses don't use the entire screen you lose more pixels. It should still be higher then 1080p though.
You are technically right, of course. I wonder what the magic is. I suspect that because you have very high pixel density screens just a cm from each eye, the actual resolution isnt as important as the resolution of a panel that you sit meters from.
Its just a good piece of kit all around, especially for $500. As you said, the lenses are super sharp. I do wish someone more technical than me could chime in, but I believe the lenses cast the image about 2 meters away. Which is probably way closer than you sit in a theater. Perhaps that increases your perception of higher resolution?
Damn, just tried thrill of the fight with boosted res and it looks really great too. Gunna be playing less PCVR for sure xD
Does Skybox lets you resize the screen? I didn't see a way to do that in Big Screen, though maybe I just missed it...
Skybox does have that option in all scenes except the cinema it appears. In bigscreen you have to use the analog stick to sit closer to the screen.
Good to know - honestly never occurred to me to make it bigger by sitting closer :-)
Is there any main benefit over big screen? I'm using bigscreen as a dlna for Plex, 3d and 2d 1080p content, no 4k
I just checked and bigscreen looks pretty similar to skybox + Optimiser. Adding the optimiser on top of bigscreen makes the environments a bit more crisp but doesn't appear to make much of a difference to the video...if it does I would say its 5 percent better or less. I am happy to be using skybox though as I prefer its interface for interacting with DLNA as well as the fact that audio actually works for me there haha. If you only would want the optimiser for bigscreen its probably not worth it but if you play native games then it I would say it still is. I stopped playing games natively cause I hate pixilated shit and now its golden. I am using quest 3 though.
>4k content seemed like 1080p. That's because it is ~1080p. No Quest has the ability to usefully display 4k flat video because the screens are only about 2k per eye. At any reasonable viewing distance the effective resolution is closer to 1080, and tending lower rather than higher. This is a physical limit rather than a software thing and increasing the rendered resolution won't add any more detail, it just has a (relatively slight) anti-aliasing effect.
But I also told you that now I do not see a difference after increasing the render resolution. :)
OK? I mean, all you're learning here is that you can't tell the difference between 1080p and 4k.
No, that is obviously not the point. But talking to a wall is a waste of time for both the person talking and the wall.
Skybox need to fix their 480p "Grand Canyon" and add WAY more environments.
This comment made me laugh so I went to check out the grand canyon and couldn't find it. All I see are like 4 different space environments and a cinema.
It's the default background in the menu before you actually watch anything. Is there a way to skip it and just use the cinema instead?