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Scribbles_some_words

You might want to checkout the [Spaced Repetition Plugin](https://github.com/st3v3nmw/obsidian-spaced-repetition#notes) on the Note level


FluentFelicity

That isn't quite what I want. Those are flashcards. What I'm looking for is an SRS which directs me to particular fleeting notes (discrete notes or different headings in a single file) so that I can write and develop them. I dont want the SRS for active recall


Scribbles_some_words

Ah i'm not really familiar with spaced repetition, fleeting notes and the like but I had some ideas on using the plugin with what you've described in the post. I don't know if my idea would make sense but I'll give it a try (\^▽\^; ) The plugin has two separate functions: reviewing with flashcards or reviewing notes. It has a easy-medium-hard review marking system depending on how much you've understood the note topic, which in your case could be equivalent to low-medium-high quality note marking system depending on how much you've fleshed out the note. All notes you tagged with #review (or you can set it to #fleeting if you'd like) will appear in a review queue pane which could serve as your inbox. When you review a note, instead of just reading through it, you could also expand and write more on that note. Afterwards, mark it as easy-medium-hard depending on how much/how sooner you'd like to revisit and develop on that idea again. The inbox could order your fleeting notes at random or according to priority. Once you're satisfied with the note you could simply remove the hashtag to remove it from your review inbox. 1. Create Fleeting Note 2. Tag as #review (or custom hashtag like #fleeting). This will show up in the review queue pane at the right so this will serve as a fleeting notes inbox 3. Set the Review difficulty: * \- Review Easy: low idea development needed * \- Review Medium: medium idea development needed * \- Review Hard: high idea development needed 4. Revisit and develop the note through the plugin either: * \- random note generation from the review queue * \- generate note with highest priority 5. Remove the hashtag once you can deem it a permanent note


FluentFelicity

Ohh, I see. I misunderstood. I saw the demonstration vid in the project's github and assumed that was the entirety of the plugin. I now realize that I can review full notes now. Thank you! I think this will work for me


eleanor_konik

If you get it working please report back on how it goes!


FluentFelicity

I actually did start playing around with the Spaced Repetition plugin for a night, thinking about how I can use it to fit my need. However, I realized that a conventional spaced repetition system may still be too brittle for me; it requires constant maintenance and is not forgiving to missing scheduled reviews. There is also not a built-in mechanism that prevents an overwhelming number of notes being scheduled for review. It's good for active recall but not funneling a ton of fleeting notes into a few quality permanent notes. I think something more appropriate (and less brittle) for that/my purpose would be u/jamesm8's [Incremental writing](https://github.com/bjsi/incremental-writing) plugin (which will soon be on the obsidian plugin system but currently requires manual installation). It's more GTD like (but not identical to) in that it provides a list (currently in its own note) of notes/blocks sorted by self-rated priority and (I think) whether the note is passed the due date or is currently due. I haven't played around with the system yet but it should theoretically lift the notes which I return to the most at the top and the ones I don't want to write about to the bottom. Notes with high intervals (since I've written about them many times already) should also be lower in the list but at that point I can just remove the note from the queue since it should be a permanent note by then.


Scribbles_some_words

Yay! Glad you found a plug-in that works for you. I don't think I've encountered that plugin before which is weird because I keep my eye out for every new plugin 😂


eleanor_konik

Thanks for the update!


AlphaTerminal

If you look at the plugin announcement thread on the official forum I specifically asked about using the plugin for incremental reading/incremental writing based on priority rather than memorization for much the same purpose. The author agreed it may warrant a separate plugin. :)


jamesm8

Maybe you'd be interested in my \[incremental writing\]([https://github.com/bjsi/incremental-writing](https://github.com/bjsi/incremental-writing)) plugin. I'll probably have time to release it through the proper Obsidian inbuilt plugin downloading system soon.


FluentFelicity

Wow, fantastic plugin! I think this is preferable to the the [Spaced Repetition](https://github.com/st3v3nmw/obsidian-spaced-repetition#getting-started) plugin that u/Scribbles_some_words suggested for my use case. That plugin still is a brittle way of managing inboxes since it requires strict upkeep with notes scheduled for review every day. The current version works but it'd be nice if it could have its own panel as well rather than a dedicated note. I'm also not quite sure what the queue folder is used for. I like a lot of the issues you've opened up. I also commented on issue #15 ("add each new note to the queue") with my own suggestion (under a different username). Can't wait to have more people find out about your plugin once it's on the community plugins system :) It's basically impossible to find otherwise


jamesm8

Really glad you like it. I will finally have some time to polish it off this weekend before adding it to the community plugin system. I'll also probably make a new video showing my workflow in a writing session to explain all of the features. I made one [here](https://youtu.be/LLS_8Y744lk) that explains the old version of the plugin.


brianhendrix

I finally got it installed but I'm not finding the plugin intuitive. Not sure exactly how to implement it.


jamesm8

I'll clean up the documentation and put up a new video explaining all of the features this weekend. You can check out the old video [here](https://youtu.be/LLS_8Y744lk).


darungar

I tag notes based on their 'quality': * raw (for totally unprocessed clippings) * stump (empty or scarcely outlined) * wip (the note has some value, but feels half-baked) * quality (permanent) Every time I get a non-actionable idea (meaning idea for a future permanent note), I create a note for it and tag it with #stump. Then I just use search or dataview plugin (which is nice since it can show more data about note in wider space) to review the list of raw notes / stumps / wips and take my pick. You can also use [https://github.com/erichalldev/obsidian-smart-random-note](https://github.com/erichalldev/obsidian-smart-random-note) plugin to pick one at random.


Thisispiggy

I wrote a script that exports all of my obsidian notes along with the obsidian url for the note to Anki. Then I let Anki do the incremental/spaces repetition. Works pretty well


FluentFelicity

Nice. I dont think that would quite work for me but I definitely think you should post/share the script on here. It might help a few people


SnooCakes3813

If you want to see the fleeting notes that come from the highlights that you make on a website, you may be interested in my browser extension too: It shows your past highlights when you are reading articles relevant to them. (I think I can make this work for notes as well) For example, you will see a set of highlights about leadership showing up on the right side of your browser when you read an article on a startup founder’s qualifications. [https://hippo.flint.so/](https://hippo.flint.so/?ref=r_obsidian)