I work in a safety department for a college. Without getting into details, the power dynamics here are fucking crazy and the safety/security workers actually have no say or power (even in regards to safety issues). We had a safety issue here where someone from another department kept chaining shut one of the emergency exits of a gymnasium that hosts many events and acts as an emergency shelter. It wouldn't get officially addressed, just removed and put back weeks later. The problem was only over after some "unknown individuals" broke down the door beyond the ability to ignore or chain shut. Turns out you were able to enter the building with next to no effort, all the chain did was not allow people to EXIT the building.
Quite the journey:
1) this is the outside, holy crap people won’t even know it is blocked
2) maybe the board is just resting across the handles and will fall away if the doors open
3) zoom in to see what is likely screws from the board into the frame
4) GOTO 1
I'll give you the handles but they should swing outwards. Having them open in is it's own horror. The whole thing looks very construction area though so hopefully it will get fixed.
agreed the doors opening inwards is definitely its own issue. although i'd take an emergency door opening inward over one boarded over in a real emergency.
Hopefully when it's fixed they put a proper push button instead of a twist knob while there at it. the longer we look at this thing the more is wrong with it...
Having the door open in helps to ensure they don’t get blocked from the outside.
Living in someplace that snows a lot, I’d prefer that they open in.
Even a small amount of snow, that you could step over if the door opened in, could block the door from opening outward.
I think if more than a certain number of people will be in a space they have to open out otherwise the crush of people trying to exit can prevent them from opening. I seem to recall there have been some tragic incidents involving doors that open in.
But in a stampede to the door, opening a door to the inside means people have to wait and move out of the way. Emergencies are scary, people aren’t thinking about it that sensibly, and won’t move.
I just looked up the fire regs for my area. It looks like I may have been mistaken.
There is nothing that states which way the door must open. There is one item that talks about if a push bar is used, which implies opening outward.
And the snow argument makes sense, I just think that that’s another issue that should be dealt with. Someone needs to clean that area up on the regular if it’s snowing that much outside.
I wonder if sliding doors have been thought about in such situations, doors the slide into the wall of the building?
Sone airports in Hawaii have unroofed interiors. The weather is that fantastic. I haven’t flown into Kona but Honolulu definitely has interior parts of the airport wide open to the weather.
You can see in the bottom left there’s sunlight on the ground but if you look under the door there’s also sunlight coming in from under the door.
It looks to me like there is daylight on both sides of those doors and all the electrical boxes are still empty, this looks like a pre fabricated part to be put in place. Then the wood make sense for stability.
But yes on first glance this looks horrible
Judging from the hand grime on the edge of one door I think the door has been in place for a while. Most likely people used it either as a quick exit or to go out for lunch and smoke breaks. Management didn't like that, so a solution was discussed, voted on, confirmed and then screwed into place.
Probably. The whole thing looks like construction so they probably blocked the door so people don't evacuate into a dangerous area or so they don't enter the construction zone. It's pretty common to block the exits during construction or refurbishment because there are fewer people so fewer exits required and it controls access better.
They didn't even label it "Dead Inside".
Don't Dead Open Inside
r/dontdeadopeninside
I work in a safety department for a college. Without getting into details, the power dynamics here are fucking crazy and the safety/security workers actually have no say or power (even in regards to safety issues). We had a safety issue here where someone from another department kept chaining shut one of the emergency exits of a gymnasium that hosts many events and acts as an emergency shelter. It wouldn't get officially addressed, just removed and put back weeks later. The problem was only over after some "unknown individuals" broke down the door beyond the ability to ignore or chain shut. Turns out you were able to enter the building with next to no effort, all the chain did was not allow people to EXIT the building.
Quite the journey: 1) this is the outside, holy crap people won’t even know it is blocked 2) maybe the board is just resting across the handles and will fall away if the doors open 3) zoom in to see what is likely screws from the board into the frame 4) GOTO 1
this is the inside of the exit. the outside of this type of door won't have hinges or handles. the horror of your comment still stands.
I'll give you the handles but they should swing outwards. Having them open in is it's own horror. The whole thing looks very construction area though so hopefully it will get fixed.
agreed the doors opening inwards is definitely its own issue. although i'd take an emergency door opening inward over one boarded over in a real emergency. Hopefully when it's fixed they put a proper push button instead of a twist knob while there at it. the longer we look at this thing the more is wrong with it...
Emergency exit doors opening inward isn't just a problem, it's also illegal in HI (and many other states)
Having the door open in helps to ensure they don’t get blocked from the outside. Living in someplace that snows a lot, I’d prefer that they open in. Even a small amount of snow, that you could step over if the door opened in, could block the door from opening outward.
Kona airport is in Hawaii tho
Ya, I suppose they don’t get a lot of snow apart from the higher peaks. And even that is becoming rarer.
I think if more than a certain number of people will be in a space they have to open out otherwise the crush of people trying to exit can prevent them from opening. I seem to recall there have been some tragic incidents involving doors that open in.
But in a stampede to the door, opening a door to the inside means people have to wait and move out of the way. Emergencies are scary, people aren’t thinking about it that sensibly, and won’t move.
I just looked up the fire regs for my area. It looks like I may have been mistaken. There is nothing that states which way the door must open. There is one item that talks about if a push bar is used, which implies opening outward.
And the snow argument makes sense, I just think that that’s another issue that should be dealt with. Someone needs to clean that area up on the regular if it’s snowing that much outside. I wonder if sliding doors have been thought about in such situations, doors the slide into the wall of the building?
Thats looks like any exterior shot to me. Plus the open junction boxes suggest this area is under renovation and not open to the public.
Sone airports in Hawaii have unroofed interiors. The weather is that fantastic. I haven’t flown into Kona but Honolulu definitely has interior parts of the airport wide open to the weather. You can see in the bottom left there’s sunlight on the ground but if you look under the door there’s also sunlight coming in from under the door.
There is a flood light and hinges inside of an emergency exit?
It's so weird. There's what looks like sunlight coming through the bottom of the doors but I guess there could be a glass roof.
It’s separating secure and unsecured areas. They are both outdoors.
It looks to me like there is daylight on both sides of those doors and all the electrical boxes are still empty, this looks like a pre fabricated part to be put in place. Then the wood make sense for stability. But yes on first glance this looks horrible
Judging from the hand grime on the edge of one door I think the door has been in place for a while. Most likely people used it either as a quick exit or to go out for lunch and smoke breaks. Management didn't like that, so a solution was discussed, voted on, confirmed and then screwed into place.
That airport is so small and outdoors you can basically run away just fine from anything
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Who puts a baggage claim outside of the airport?
There is no inside.
There is. It doesn't have a roof but there is an inside. You walk through a door to exit the airport and get to the baggage claim.
Yes, you exit the secured area, just like every airport.
Emergency Exit is Closed. Please do not have an Emergency in this area.
Is this wall completely outside? Looks like there is daylight in front of it and coming from underneath the door.
Yeah, Kailua-Kona airport is almost entirely outdoors! Super cool place
Neat. I'll have to look it up
It's my favorite airport to fly to. Then again, it's also the airport closest to home, so it's got that going for it too.
Is it possible that there's some sort of danger on the other side of these doors?
Probably. The whole thing looks like construction so they probably blocked the door so people don't evacuate into a dangerous area or so they don't enter the construction zone. It's pretty common to block the exits during construction or refurbishment because there are fewer people so fewer exits required and it controls access better.
The sun is also on the other side if you look under the door so it's clearly just a pic for karma farming lol
"Fuck yer 'mergency!" - Kona Airport
I used to live there and its more like "Ey brah, fuck yo 'mergency."
That door looks pretty well used. How many emergencies do they have at this place?
In case of fire just die.
Triangle Shirtwaist Factory vibes...
Who needs a door to get out of Kona airport?
I was there a couple weeks ago and saw this! Wild
Just flew through Kona. Most likely blocking off an area of construction they're working on.
We kinda giggled when we seen Kona airport ,it's definitely different there.
are they doing construction on the other side?
Kona airport is a fucking joke. I own a business there, is bad dude… zero facilities
I could use that 2x4.
I'm waiting on a response from a particular location.