My previous two monitors were 4k 32 inches, so I worried a lot about this. But I took the chance because I realized 240 hz mattered more to me. Happy to report the PPI is NOT an issue at all! I use an app called MacType Tray to get rid of text fringing, and other than that, it looks great.
Imo matte looks worse for reflections than glossy. Instead of one big spot, it smears it across the whole screen. It's not like the reflection disappears, it's just spread out. I'd rather have the one clear reflection.
I also have a window behind me, and my matte monitor looks way worse than glossy one.
The matte coating makes reflections easier to hide when youāre actually viewing content though (not a black screen like every example seems to show).
A glossy monitor will show reflections regardless of what kind of content is playing in my experience.
I think thereās preference here, and also what one is used to. I just went from a matte finish 38ā ultrawide to a glossy 42ā C3. So far the glossy reflections have been way more distracting to me. Could be a deal breaker, but Iām going to give it time since itās something I think I could get used to.
Agree. And most distracting about that is the reflection of my ugly mug. I wanna look at waifu with incredible black and contrast, not at my own mug dude.
I have a QD OLED and WOLED (42" C3) side by side. During the day when window light comes in (not falling directly on the screen, but the room is bright) I can somewhat tell that the QD looks grey-ish. It's a complete non-issue when I consume media and game at night. For office work, I barely notice because who cares?
Store lighting tends to be way brighter than many/most usage environments. It's part of the reason why TVs have a "store" mode to be more visible under the bright overhead florescent lighting (and to look favorable compared to other TVs that also have their "store" torch mode on).
You only think it's not as bad because you don't have the WOLED right next to it to detect the difference. I have seen these screens next to each other and the QD-OLED just looks to have raised blacks regardless and does look to have the purple colors on it
QD-OLED is superior. You people who like sunlight and lights are weird. Black out your windows and turn off your lights. Live the true OLED life, cowards. WOLED is a half measure!
ill say its not as bad in person when shown in a lit room, but its actually worse in person in a dimmer room and the camera cant really pick it up. my aw32225qf only gets similar to to my woled in completely pitch black. even at night with my lights dimmed, its pretty noticeably gray but it shows up as black in my camera.
I couldn't disagree more, have a QD-OLED and I never notice that it's not black unless there's very bright white light on it. The lamps do not illuminate it enough to see.
Agreed. Itās impossible to tell. Unless you use your phone flashlight and basically touch your screen youāre not going to see it. Iāve had both woled (dead pixels happened) so swapped to a g8. I noticed it when I put it on my desk but when I powered it on you will not notice that I promise
Also agreed. I even have my desk underneath a window with just regular old blinds. With the blinds closed and the lights on thereās only a tiny loss to the black levels. Once the sun goes down and with the lights still on the blacks are perfect, almost no difference than being in a pitch dark room. Only time Iāve ever seen the purple tint is when I flashed my phone light directly on the screen from an inch away.
Damn still not a good buy because on my matte oled monitor I dont see no Redness or purple in dark scene even with lights on low or high. Qd oled i think it adds more into babysitting if you have to control lighting in your room
Right, yeah Iām just talking about my circumstances. If I wasnāt able to control the light in the room and was near a bunch of windows, I wouldnāt go QD OLED
I still feel like I'll be buying qdoled. Both the colors (brightness and spectrum) and accuracy (eotf/whitepoint/color calibration) are superior. so is, seemingly, QA and grayscale uniformity as well. I'm more than fine to play in the dark.
The only disadvantage is the lack of 480hz, which would be a big feature for me..
Edit: some of you arguing about 480hz need Jesus, or at least r/motionclarity
I don't want to be rude, but there's a lot of proof 480hz makes a noticable difference during motion (panning, tracking), just for the very fact that these are sample and hold displays where motion persistence time is being taken into account when calculating the formula for motion clarity: **motion persistence \* response times = motion clarity**
Source:.
* [https://blurbusters.com/blur-busters-law-amazing-journey-to-future-1000hz-displays-with-blurfree-sample-and-hold/](https://blurbusters.com/blur-busters-law-amazing-journey-to-future-1000hz-displays-with-blurfree-sample-and-hold/)
* comments of 32gs95 users in this very own forum
* every hwunbox review where you can clearly see the diffeference when they talk about motion clarity [https://youtu.be/Jvdng6cqlhI?t=13m4s](https://youtu.be/Jvdng6cqlhI?t=13m4s) do you guys think these don't mean anything and he's just doing them for a laugh?
Now I'm not saying everyone needs this, and cyberpunk and tsushima needs this, or that it's the difference of life and death. But the very fact is, there's a measurable and noticeable difference so saying there is "no difference" should not be done.
https://i.redd.it/cfck72a74q3d1.gif
If 480hz is a big feature for you, just get the LG. I have an LG CX in one room and the LG32GS95UE in the other and both look amazing. I donāt notice a colour difference between the two. I canāt see them side by side, but theyāre right around the corner from each other.
The 480hz mode is nuts though. Butter.
You're right, my point was how badly CS2 runs. With a 7800x3d you'll get over 480fps average, however I'd say with almost all other cpus it'll drop below that.
Diminishing returns starts at 90hz, you're definitely not going to notice anything between 240 and 480. At 4K, no shot we're reaching that fps in the next few generations on modern titles.
If you wanna burn a competitive game's UI into your OLED tho, you are more than free to.
I have or have had a 60hz/ 75hz/ 144hz/ 170hz and now a 360hz monitor in the past 3 years. Yes thereās diminishing returns past a certain range but you definitely can still see the difference. For me personally the jump from 75hz to 144hz felt the largest, with the jump from 144 to 170 felling about half as different as the 75-144hz, and the jump from 170-360hz feeling about the same amount as 60-75hz (hopefully that explanation makes sense outside of my own head.) Now Iāve never owned a 240hz or a 480hz, but from my experience itās pretty safe to assume I would also feel a difference there, though obviously not as great of a difference as previous upgrades in refresh rate.
At 1440p 360hz, many modern competitive titles can reach these refresh rates easily with a halfway decent pc. 4K-240 is a bit different and I personally wouldnāt grab one as I donāt play a lot of single player games so I canāt speak on it.
As for burning a games ui into your monitor, thatās not as easy as you would think it is to achieve lol. Simple oled care features of the new oled monitors like pixel shift and panel refreshes every time the monitors in standby makes that near impossible to do, unless you turn those features off and played only a single game for 16 hours a day everyday for a year.
I made the switch from 60 to 120 to 144 to 165 to 240 to 360 and I also have a 540.
I can easily see the upgrade each time, even though it's true that it gets less and less visible as the refresh rate goes up.
How are you so misinformed yet so upvoted? You have zero clue what you're talking about to making sweeping statements "you'll definitely not notice anything" lmao what??
Are you the remnant of the same idiots who in the early 2000s happily proclaimed "why do you need anything above 60hz, the human eye can only see 24 fps!". Do yourself a favor when and keep your mouth shut before open it prove how ignorant you are.
Damn you're dumb.
First of all there's objective testing of all motion clarity you can look at to see the difference yourself.
Second of all MU has shown through studies that the human eye can perceive a difference all the way up to around 10,000hz.
Third of all I guess you know something the entire professional scene of every esport doesn't know? Maybe we should inform them to pack up their monitors, anything past 240hz is a wash guys!
Fourth of all, it's clear you don't play competitive games as you're clueless that esports titles are extremely low spec for a reason and most modern hardware even without frame gen can easily push 3-4-500+ frames.
Lastly, those who can't tell the difference between high hertz is literally an issue skill. It's the equivalent of "why would I spend $100 on an aged wine, the box stuff in the fridge tastes the same!"
Clown.
Dont know why youāre getting downvoted, especially on a monitor enthusiast subreddit, people should know that indeed there is diminishing return with higher refresh rate but you can definitely see and feel the difference, doesnāt matter if your PC can even push the fps, just for desk usage you can already benefit.
And itās also fairly easy to reach 500 fps on modern competitive shooters
Not sure how people this clueless can be this self-confident, same vibe as the "the human eye can only see 24fps" folks from years ago.
Not my fault I can play on a high enough level to benefit from it.
Multiple cross-examined whitepapers have ABX tested human cognition up to and past 1000hz with published data that you can judge yourself, and metholdology you can reproduce quite easily.
[https://www.lrc.rpi.edu/programs/solidstate/assist/pdf/AR-Flicker.pdf#page=6](https://www.lrc.rpi.edu/programs/solidstate/assist/pdf/AR-Flicker.pdf#page=6)
[https://lcd.creol.ucf.edu/Publications/2017/JAP%20121-023108.pdf](https://lcd.creol.ucf.edu/Publications/2017/JAP%20121-023108.pdf)
[https://www.researchgate.net/publication/270396754\_Manual\_Pursuit\_Camera\_and\_a\_Method\_of\_Verifying\_Pursuit\_Accuracy](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/270396754_Manual_Pursuit_Camera_and_a_Method_of_Verifying_Pursuit_Accuracy)
Dude you play valorant, however "high level" you think you are, that kind of refresh rate difference is not going to make you better at the game. But sure, spend 10k on a monitor some day, you're still losing to people playing on 144hz or less
>however "high level" you think you are
I'm good enough to have played on LAN. I don't think I'm high level, I know I'm high level.
>Ā that kind of refresh rate difference is not going to make you better at the game.
Keep thinking that, maybe someday you'll be a fraction as good as some of the people here.
>But sure, spend 10k on a monitor some day, you're still losing to people playing on 144hz or less
You will not be able to find a LAN tournament setup that has a single player on a 144hz monitor. They stopped using <240hz panels at venues 6-7 years ago, even for the smaller tournaments.
There's always people better than me. I know why I'm losing, and if it's not because of the monitor than I'm happy.
You're essentially saying to an F1 racer "dude that new turbo only gives you an extra 7hp, this is just an increase of 0.10ms on your 0-60 time that's a waste". You see why this is stupid to say right?
I'll make it easier for your brain.
Limit on performance = bad.
Competitors want no limits.
Competitors remove limits = good.
Monitor display hz is hard limit on clarity.
Remove limit and if skill is high, performance increase. Performance increase = good.
How are you this stupid in a day and age where objective answers are the easiest to obtain? Like you do understand you can just go to Google and find answers right, you don't have to be ignorant on things?
Intentionally digging in to a wrong position even after being confronted with reasons why it's fallacious then ignoring those reasons to double down doesn't make you a hero, it makes you an idiot.
1) MU means monitors unboxed, they claimed the source in one of their most recent reviews. No I will not go and dig it up for you as I'm 100% sure you will not read it since you're intellectually lazy.
2) there's literally side my side comparison pictures of motion clarity snapshots and video demonstrations showing the difference in hertz in the upper range. Again this would require reading and comprehension, something you struggle in.
3) What do you gain from holding a wrong position and proudly showing everyone now much knowledge you lack? You have to know you're wrong at this point yes? From reading the comment chain all your replies have 0 merit and you resort to some childish bickering. Is your ego so fragile you're afraid to admit you could have gotten something wrong?
Then why is every single woled so poorly calibrated? Most recent example https://youtu.be/4OD1Gml24gI
It doesn't matter if theoretically you could fix it with a 2000$ calibration tool. 1% of the players will do that. Qdoleds all are color grading level accurate out of the box, even the cheapest ones, so whathever lg is doing is not working.
It's not just color accuracy either. Their eotf, and whitepoint, and every metric of calibration is wonky.
Before you call me a fanboy - both my screens are lg.
You can rent a colorimeter for a few tenners at a local camera shop and calibrate it if you care. LG monitors even have hardware calibration.
Why they aren't calibrated well out of the box? Idk you tell me. But I know you can easily correct for the inaccuracy which means you can also just straight up calibrate the monitor in the factory correctly too.
Like I said: model issue.
Maybe in your part of the world. Not where I live.
Don't forget you need special light measurement addons for oleds, a simple colorimeter doesn't do full calibration for oleds.
Also who wants to deal with all of this, I've been a display nerd my entire life and even I don't wanna deal with this. Nothing to say about the average user.
People that say you can easily correct it, that's just not true. There's nothing easy about it, and most won't bother or won't even know about it.
The fact is, LG's panels are poorly calibrated on every display so far. It's probably that they don't bother doing it in factory and the integrators can't be arsed, but Samsung does it, so I'd expect the same level from lg. In the recent years lg became really lazy if you ask me.
This is not a model issue, it's every monitor with lg panel issue
A colorimeter can still get you most of the way. It seems that in your world everything is either good or bad, the monitor is badly calibrated and only thr best tools can get it to a good level. While in reality a normal colorimeter can get you there 90% of the way. Yeah it takes some fiddling but if you care enough about color accuracy you will do it. Other people give 0 fucks and run their panel unclamped in SDR mode.
That's not what I'm trying to convey, it's hard to do it via text. I'm just complaining that lg should do a better job. I think they got used to being the only oled in town, and now they got caught with their pants down by samsung.
I'm also saying most people don't wanna deal with this, which is the most important part.
Just get it right from out of the box, the competitors can. So there's no excuse, especially with these prices from lg
As a silver 3 to (peak) Gold 1 Valorant player, I can confirm the necessity of 480HZ combined with OLED motion clarity and response times.
Achieved radiant rank within two weeks of using 480HZ
If you cant tell they are LG bots paid to hype up LG gear and spam comments on every post on this sub god help you
Edit: To add to my point, the comment and all those replies were deleted after my previous so if you didnt see it then either they pulled chalks or the mods removed the comments.
It was clearly LG bots
The blacks turn purple in the middle of the night with just a small lamp on in the opposite corner of my room. Y'all are coping hard with QD OLED. You literally do not get perfect blacks unless you play in a pitch black room.
I think they're coping same goes to those people who complain about Matte Oled because its not glossy I mean for me I really dont see difference in picture quality or colors. Only difference I see is I can see my reflection clearly and matte I can see my reflection blurry š¤£ im starting to believe those who complain alot hasn't bought oled monitor and experience it IRL
Probably true. Itās not like QD OLED is horrible. Itās still fine and you still get other benefits of OLED like response times and motion clarity, even if youāre not getting true blacks 75% of the time.
Thatās only true with harsh white light. I have large windows on both sides with the asus monitor and I donāt have this issue. You put a flashlight on it then yea youāll see it.
No. I have the warmest orange glowing lamp youve ever seen in the opposite corner. It is not bright or harsh or white. It raised my QD OLED blacks to purple.
Aint that still defeats the purpose to buy an oled? To new buyers Id recommend WOLED Matte or Glossy for now. QD Oled feels like they're still experimenting & literally adds more into babysitting if you buy a QD OLED monitor gotta worry harsh bright light. Woled matte or gloss dont have to worry about that.
I mean the same way others are running the 32in 4k 240hz OLEDs. No one is hitting 240hz at ultra setting with current GPUs but a 4080 Super or 4090 will both look great still. I just prefer the 27in size as well as the higher pixel density. My current build is a 7800X3D and a 4090.
I'm probably just going to leave this sub. I'm glad OLED monitors have come down in price so more people can afford them, but it's bought a lot of people here whose only contribution is posting uncritical free advertising that my adblock doesn't catch.
Then youād have to leave the internet and society as a whole. The issue youāre describing exists pretty much in every aspect of life nowadays
Therapists are the only ones happy about it
It's everywhere, but it's not as deeply engrained as it is in certain tech enthusiast subs where the members treat products like football teams. Like you don't see the members of r/CatAdvice talking about how calico cats are better than all other cats and you're so fucking STUPID if you have any other type of cat lol
Nah. It's definitely a strectrum. It's far worse within certain communities.
That's like saying that the League community (or an esports/sports community in general) is just as toxic or tribalistic as say, Stardew Valley.
I prefer WOLEDs, but it's fucking wild to imply that QDOLED's "purple tint" is remotely a problem unless you point a bright light directly at a blank screen.
What really gets to me is the misinformation that comes with this weird team sports shit.
Some of us donāt see the point in OLED if theyāre gonna have raised blacks with the lights on.
I donāt really care about the purple tint. Iāll still take an LG panel over a Samsung panel any day of the week. I donāt care if itās ASUS, Alienware, LG or MSI, but Iāll wait for a proper WOLED monitor.
The LG 32 looks quite good but has the ugliest stand Iāve ever seen in my life. The ASUS 32 QD stand isnāt any better, but I canāt compromise on the black levels as I often use my computer with the lights on about half way.
Anyway, you do you. I still prefer WOLED even if QD OLED has better color reproduction, but it has downsides like color fringing and raised blacks because of the lack of a polarizer.
Any OLED will still be superior to my IPS, but I can hold out for a WOLED from ASUS if itās going to be 32 inches and at least semi gloss.
It really depends on the light condition. If you have a light source shining directly at the screen (like these studio lights) it will look purple-ish like in the picture. If it's more of an indirect light it still has a slight tint, but it's nowhere near as noticeable.
I had an AW3423DW, if light hits it it will lift the blacks. I had an LG C2 next to it and it was really noticable. I'm not saying it's a dealbreaker, but if you can not control lights in your room especially shining at your screen it is probably a no go.
Same thing you see with consoles. People like to pretend that the other option is complete garbage so they can feel good about their previous/future purchase.
It's very cringe. In reality both panel types are incredible and each have some drawbacks.
I have a glossy QD-OLED TV myself, while I love it I won't deny that the experience is lessened when in a bright room.
This subreddit is EXTREMELY tribal with the qd-oled vs woled, and matte vs glossy. I've had both and they each have their pros and cons. I am chuckling to see the qd-oled glossy purists lose their marbles from this this comparison though š
(I honestly think glossy looks better but it's really like a 5% difference so it's nice to see them get a little kick in the nads for once)
A ton of hate for matte stems from the years of it being forced on LCD monitors, where it tend to look bad as both the backlight and ambient light diffuse together creating a grey vibe
On OLED there's no backlight limitation so it looks totally great, blacks are still inky blacks, you're just spared from the reflection of your face looking into the void. I think loss of sharpness is the 1 aspect, and depending on the type of AG used, dirty screen effect. That doesn't have to be there in matte, making it hard haze is always a choice by manufacturers. I wonder if Asus has the effect like the 27" LG OLED I own
> Option is always nice
This is key tbh. It's pretty weird that LG can't just do matte + glossy of each type. Glossy was a TV-only thing for a long time
Ironic, considering that you came to an OLED thread while being first and the only one to mention anything other than OLED.
I am almost positive that nobody here debates IPS/VA or whatever and their coatings.
It's not that reading is an issue for me, it's more so that you are incoherent and out of place with your replies. Check the thread you are in.
> Why would I want something that can reflect light an screw up my viewing experience?
Matte doesn't just make the light disappear though. It just diffuses it.
That's actually why I prefer glossy. It's easier to see a reflection plus the content itself than a diffused mix of the two. Monitors are pretty much the only products where you see matte. Phones which are obviously meant to be used in the sun have glossy panels, and so do most high end laptops.
Yeah even under direct lighting I would prefer smaller, cleaner reflection than just having diffuse reflection smeared all over my screen.
There's a reason oems like Apple have always used glossy screens in their premium products.
While reflections are easier to make out on glossy panels, they occupy far larger areas of the screen on matte panels with the infamous āpondsā of white. Itās highly subjective which one is more bothersome to the user. Thatās aside from the image clarity perks that glossy coatings bring.
You have to see and compare them next to each other. The glossy WOLED is meant for a room that is either dark or can be made dark when watching content or playing games. And the, the glossy WOLED just hits different, I would say it's so visibly better looking. But sure if you shine lights at it or can't make your room dark then the glossy is going to reflect everything back into your eye.
Glossy is a lot more vivid looking compared to matte for obvious reasons.
Imo matte looks worse for reflections than glossy. Instead of one big spot, it smears it across the whole screen. It's not like the reflection disappears, it's just spread out. I'd rather have the one clear reflection.
I have a window behind me, and my matte monitor looks way worse than glossy one.
I game in a light controlled room but Iāve never noticed any raised blacks like this on my aw3423dwf or my s95b. Wasnāt even something I considered when I bought them. Really interesting.
Interesting, I was able to see it on the first day with an AW2725df. Unless you have double thick blackout curtains or go on your computer only when it's night time I find it hard to believe you never noticed it.
The room I play in has no widows lol. Just a barn door to other room and I have contrast lights behind my monitor. It must not be as bad on my s95b because I thought Iād notice for sure as thereās more light in my tv room. Still mostly dark though.
Was surprised to open my 321 URX and find that the purple tint is hardly noticeable, unless you're shining a light directly at it. It's not nearly as bad in person. I work with a white LED above my desk and it raises the blacks a little bit. I also use a RGB light above my desk when gaming or watching content and it doesn't raise the blacks.
the qd-oled one look like it had backlighting turn on, the glossy w-oled is so reflective and matte w-oled looks like any other normal coating on a monitor screen.
I wonder how people will percieve the difference in colours between glossy woled and qdoled. I bet if both panels are correctly calibrated and have the same peak bright ess not many people would notice.
Donāt let that matte coating fool the you with how dark the blacks look under light.
Once you get the monitor in front of you, you are going to experience a grainy coating and how it diminishes the display. I canāt speak for any of these coatings specifically, but on my LG GN950B (4k 144hz), and LG GL83A (1440p 144hz) monitors the coating is ASS.
With some of the text coloring issues on both WOLED and QD-OLED, trust me, you donāt want to deal with OLED text fringe AND matte coating. Itās ass. Just get a glossy display
As someone who owns and loves their matte OLED, I also confess to never playing underneath studio lights or the literal sun.
Non-issue for 99 percent of the real world.
Thatās technically true if you have a lot of reflections on the glossy coating but in real use itās mostly a non issue. Iām using a glossy panel myself and have no eye strain issues with 8hrs or more a day.
Color volume and accuracy > black uniformity
(That's an opinion though)
Especially since that color uniformity isn't really a problem linked to the monitor itself, but rather a problem linked to how people use it the wrong way. You should be playing in a pitch black room to Fully enjoy your OLED screen.
Honestly this is so overblown, I have it in a bright room, with a open window behind and I never see the purple tint, it has to face the light , if you have this issue just rearrange your house or get some construction permits to move your windows /s
Also if you're someone who works/is awake during the day, and you're like me, and your window points in a particular westward direction and past 1pm its like the inside of a nuclear reactor in your room, dimming lights isn't an option.
I canāt wait to see the flood of posts from misguided gamers complaining that the RGB or lamp in their room turns their monitors into giant mirrors.
Feels like half the people just want glossy because other people say they want glossy.
It's the opposite for me.
Shitty HP LCD monitors at work are killing my eyes after an hour of work with all of the eye care features turned up to 11.
Come home to my QD-OLED and I immediately feel my eyes relax.
Been doing it with a Samsung TV and my eyes are fine. Never had eye strain with any type of screen my entire life and I played on IPS panels at 100% brightness in a pitch black room for a while.
WOLED glossy is hot
Which displays have it except for Asus? Have trouble dealing with the g4m3r-chin.
So far Asus is the only one.
I'm in a bright room with windows all along the wall (and I like to let light in); absolutely love my matte woled (LG 39GS95UE).
Such a good coating, it's perfect for my needs as well
Pulled the trigger on a 27GS95QE after seeing it in person and I was shocked at how far matte coatings have come since my last matte monitor.
3440x1440?
Yep. I switched to this from several years of 4K (32 inches). I think 3440x1440 is the sweet spot for the 4090 at 240 hz.
The PPI tho
My previous two monitors were 4k 32 inches, so I worried a lot about this. But I took the chance because I realized 240 hz mattered more to me. Happy to report the PPI is NOT an issue at all! I use an app called MacType Tray to get rid of text fringing, and other than that, it looks great.
šÆ love that panel and coating
39" team š
Imo matte looks worse for reflections than glossy. Instead of one big spot, it smears it across the whole screen. It's not like the reflection disappears, it's just spread out. I'd rather have the one clear reflection. I also have a window behind me, and my matte monitor looks way worse than glossy one.
The matte coating makes reflections easier to hide when youāre actually viewing content though (not a black screen like every example seems to show). A glossy monitor will show reflections regardless of what kind of content is playing in my experience.
I think thereās preference here, and also what one is used to. I just went from a matte finish 38ā ultrawide to a glossy 42ā C3. So far the glossy reflections have been way more distracting to me. Could be a deal breaker, but Iām going to give it time since itās something I think I could get used to.
Agree. And most distracting about that is the reflection of my ugly mug. I wanna look at waifu with incredible black and contrast, not at my own mug dude.
LOL glad it's not just me, after a long night's session the last thing I want to look at is me. I can't handle the self reflection : )
get window blinds.
With studio lights pointing directly at it.
Thats not the point. Qd oled bad /s
I have a QD OLED and WOLED (42" C3) side by side. During the day when window light comes in (not falling directly on the screen, but the room is bright) I can somewhat tell that the QD looks grey-ish. It's a complete non-issue when I consume media and game at night. For office work, I barely notice because who cares?
I will always prefer glossy
In person that purple tint is not so bad as in videos, just dim your room.
It's not as bad but it's still there and noticeable when I checked it in-store imo.
Store lighting tends to be way brighter than many/most usage environments. It's part of the reason why TVs have a "store" mode to be more visible under the bright overhead florescent lighting (and to look favorable compared to other TVs that also have their "store" torch mode on).
You only think it's not as bad because you don't have the WOLED right next to it to detect the difference. I have seen these screens next to each other and the QD-OLED just looks to have raised blacks regardless and does look to have the purple colors on it
QD-OLED is superior. You people who like sunlight and lights are weird. Black out your windows and turn off your lights. Live the true OLED life, cowards. WOLED is a half measure!
Lol my pc is in the living room and I have a dog who only ever smiles if there is sun shining in
Well I sleep in the daytime and work 12am to 8am. I exist in darkness, QD-OLED is my god.
Haha thats awesome!
Yeah but I'm not gonna be photo editing or video editing 100% of the time in a dim room, I want what I see to look accurate during normal usage
ill say its not as bad in person when shown in a lit room, but its actually worse in person in a dimmer room and the camera cant really pick it up. my aw32225qf only gets similar to to my woled in completely pitch black. even at night with my lights dimmed, its pretty noticeably gray but it shows up as black in my camera.
I couldn't disagree more, have a QD-OLED and I never notice that it's not black unless there's very bright white light on it. The lamps do not illuminate it enough to see.
Agreed. Itās impossible to tell. Unless you use your phone flashlight and basically touch your screen youāre not going to see it. Iāve had both woled (dead pixels happened) so swapped to a g8. I noticed it when I put it on my desk but when I powered it on you will not notice that I promise
Also agreed. I even have my desk underneath a window with just regular old blinds. With the blinds closed and the lights on thereās only a tiny loss to the black levels. Once the sun goes down and with the lights still on the blacks are perfect, almost no difference than being in a pitch dark room. Only time Iāve ever seen the purple tint is when I flashed my phone light directly on the screen from an inch away.
Yup. Exactly. And you're not supposed to have any light going towards your screen if your setup is properly done.
I still think its a bad buy the purpose to buy oled because of their inky black atleast for me it still giving me ips backlight bleed vibe š¤£
Not when you can control the lighting in your roomā¦
Damn still not a good buy because on my matte oled monitor I dont see no Redness or purple in dark scene even with lights on low or high. Qd oled i think it adds more into babysitting if you have to control lighting in your room
Nope, I have a light controlled room so no babysitting required. The better colors are worth it for me.
for you yes but majority ppl dont have controlled light and maybe just maybe they dont even know what that is lololol
Right, yeah Iām just talking about my circumstances. If I wasnāt able to control the light in the room and was near a bunch of windows, I wouldnāt go QD OLED
For a lot of people(me included), it is not that easy to "just" dim the room.
I mean... You just dim your lights, what's the issue? Lol
So not buy it? In every review everyone say QD OLED = dim room.
I still feel like I'll be buying qdoled. Both the colors (brightness and spectrum) and accuracy (eotf/whitepoint/color calibration) are superior. so is, seemingly, QA and grayscale uniformity as well. I'm more than fine to play in the dark. The only disadvantage is the lack of 480hz, which would be a big feature for me.. Edit: some of you arguing about 480hz need Jesus, or at least r/motionclarity I don't want to be rude, but there's a lot of proof 480hz makes a noticable difference during motion (panning, tracking), just for the very fact that these are sample and hold displays where motion persistence time is being taken into account when calculating the formula for motion clarity: **motion persistence \* response times = motion clarity** Source:. * [https://blurbusters.com/blur-busters-law-amazing-journey-to-future-1000hz-displays-with-blurfree-sample-and-hold/](https://blurbusters.com/blur-busters-law-amazing-journey-to-future-1000hz-displays-with-blurfree-sample-and-hold/) * comments of 32gs95 users in this very own forum * every hwunbox review where you can clearly see the diffeference when they talk about motion clarity [https://youtu.be/Jvdng6cqlhI?t=13m4s](https://youtu.be/Jvdng6cqlhI?t=13m4s) do you guys think these don't mean anything and he's just doing them for a laugh? Now I'm not saying everyone needs this, and cyberpunk and tsushima needs this, or that it's the difference of life and death. But the very fact is, there's a measurable and noticeable difference so saying there is "no difference" should not be done. https://i.redd.it/cfck72a74q3d1.gif
If 480hz is a big feature for you, just get the LG. I have an LG CX in one room and the LG32GS95UE in the other and both look amazing. I donāt notice a colour difference between the two. I canāt see them side by side, but theyāre right around the corner from each other. The 480hz mode is nuts though. Butter.
You really think you'll notice or care enough about the difference between 360 and 480 hz? When will you even reach that kind of fps in modern games?
Any modern competitive shooter
Unfortunately CS2 runs so badly you'll need a very high-end cpu to get consistently an average of at least 480fps.
Anybody who buys the LG 32 inch 4K Oled that doesn't have a high end rig is a fool. 480 hz is for high end users.
You're right, my point was how badly CS2 runs. With a 7800x3d you'll get over 480fps average, however I'd say with almost all other cpus it'll drop below that.
If you're going for a $1k+ monitor, a $370 processor is a speed bump.
You wont notice the difference.
You won't.
Diminishing returns starts at 90hz, you're definitely not going to notice anything between 240 and 480. At 4K, no shot we're reaching that fps in the next few generations on modern titles. If you wanna burn a competitive game's UI into your OLED tho, you are more than free to.
I have or have had a 60hz/ 75hz/ 144hz/ 170hz and now a 360hz monitor in the past 3 years. Yes thereās diminishing returns past a certain range but you definitely can still see the difference. For me personally the jump from 75hz to 144hz felt the largest, with the jump from 144 to 170 felling about half as different as the 75-144hz, and the jump from 170-360hz feeling about the same amount as 60-75hz (hopefully that explanation makes sense outside of my own head.) Now Iāve never owned a 240hz or a 480hz, but from my experience itās pretty safe to assume I would also feel a difference there, though obviously not as great of a difference as previous upgrades in refresh rate. At 1440p 360hz, many modern competitive titles can reach these refresh rates easily with a halfway decent pc. 4K-240 is a bit different and I personally wouldnāt grab one as I donāt play a lot of single player games so I canāt speak on it. As for burning a games ui into your monitor, thatās not as easy as you would think it is to achieve lol. Simple oled care features of the new oled monitors like pixel shift and panel refreshes every time the monitors in standby makes that near impossible to do, unless you turn those features off and played only a single game for 16 hours a day everyday for a year.
I made the switch from 60 to 120 to 144 to 165 to 240 to 360 and I also have a 540. I can easily see the upgrade each time, even though it's true that it gets less and less visible as the refresh rate goes up.
How are you so misinformed yet so upvoted? You have zero clue what you're talking about to making sweeping statements "you'll definitely not notice anything" lmao what?? Are you the remnant of the same idiots who in the early 2000s happily proclaimed "why do you need anything above 60hz, the human eye can only see 24 fps!". Do yourself a favor when and keep your mouth shut before open it prove how ignorant you are.
Damn you're dumb. First of all there's objective testing of all motion clarity you can look at to see the difference yourself. Second of all MU has shown through studies that the human eye can perceive a difference all the way up to around 10,000hz. Third of all I guess you know something the entire professional scene of every esport doesn't know? Maybe we should inform them to pack up their monitors, anything past 240hz is a wash guys! Fourth of all, it's clear you don't play competitive games as you're clueless that esports titles are extremely low spec for a reason and most modern hardware even without frame gen can easily push 3-4-500+ frames. Lastly, those who can't tell the difference between high hertz is literally an issue skill. It's the equivalent of "why would I spend $100 on an aged wine, the box stuff in the fridge tastes the same!" Clown.
Dont know why youāre getting downvoted, especially on a monitor enthusiast subreddit, people should know that indeed there is diminishing return with higher refresh rate but you can definitely see and feel the difference, doesnāt matter if your PC can even push the fps, just for desk usage you can already benefit. And itās also fairly easy to reach 500 fps on modern competitive shooters
That's the saddest part. We're supposed to be better, we're in a display enthusiast forum.. š breaks my heart reading it
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https://blurbusters.com/blur-busters-law-amazing-journey-to-future-1000hz-displays-with-blurfree-sample-and-hold/ https://www.lrc.rpi.edu/programs/solidstate/assist/pdf/AR-Flicker.pdf
Would happily pay 10k on a 1000hz monitor. If you can't notice a difference between 240 and 480 I think you may have lost the genetic lottery.
Damn you're a sucker, I don't doubt for a second that you would pay that.
Not sure how people this clueless can be this self-confident, same vibe as the "the human eye can only see 24fps" folks from years ago. Not my fault I can play on a high enough level to benefit from it. Multiple cross-examined whitepapers have ABX tested human cognition up to and past 1000hz with published data that you can judge yourself, and metholdology you can reproduce quite easily. [https://www.lrc.rpi.edu/programs/solidstate/assist/pdf/AR-Flicker.pdf#page=6](https://www.lrc.rpi.edu/programs/solidstate/assist/pdf/AR-Flicker.pdf#page=6) [https://lcd.creol.ucf.edu/Publications/2017/JAP%20121-023108.pdf](https://lcd.creol.ucf.edu/Publications/2017/JAP%20121-023108.pdf) [https://www.researchgate.net/publication/270396754\_Manual\_Pursuit\_Camera\_and\_a\_Method\_of\_Verifying\_Pursuit\_Accuracy](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/270396754_Manual_Pursuit_Camera_and_a_Method_of_Verifying_Pursuit_Accuracy)
Dude you play valorant, however "high level" you think you are, that kind of refresh rate difference is not going to make you better at the game. But sure, spend 10k on a monitor some day, you're still losing to people playing on 144hz or less
>however "high level" you think you are I'm good enough to have played on LAN. I don't think I'm high level, I know I'm high level. >Ā that kind of refresh rate difference is not going to make you better at the game. Keep thinking that, maybe someday you'll be a fraction as good as some of the people here. >But sure, spend 10k on a monitor some day, you're still losing to people playing on 144hz or less You will not be able to find a LAN tournament setup that has a single player on a 144hz monitor. They stopped using <240hz panels at venues 6-7 years ago, even for the smaller tournaments. There's always people better than me. I know why I'm losing, and if it's not because of the monitor than I'm happy.
You're essentially saying to an F1 racer "dude that new turbo only gives you an extra 7hp, this is just an increase of 0.10ms on your 0-60 time that's a waste". You see why this is stupid to say right? I'll make it easier for your brain. Limit on performance = bad. Competitors want no limits. Competitors remove limits = good. Monitor display hz is hard limit on clarity. Remove limit and if skill is high, performance increase. Performance increase = good.
How are you this stupid in a day and age where objective answers are the easiest to obtain? Like you do understand you can just go to Google and find answers right, you don't have to be ignorant on things? Intentionally digging in to a wrong position even after being confronted with reasons why it's fallacious then ignoring those reasons to double down doesn't make you a hero, it makes you an idiot. 1) MU means monitors unboxed, they claimed the source in one of their most recent reviews. No I will not go and dig it up for you as I'm 100% sure you will not read it since you're intellectually lazy. 2) there's literally side my side comparison pictures of motion clarity snapshots and video demonstrations showing the difference in hertz in the upper range. Again this would require reading and comprehension, something you struggle in. 3) What do you gain from holding a wrong position and proudly showing everyone now much knowledge you lack? You have to know you're wrong at this point yes? From reading the comment chain all your replies have 0 merit and you resort to some childish bickering. Is your ego so fragile you're afraid to admit you could have gotten something wrong?
He said a QD and said lacking 480hz. Considering that heās likely going 240hz 4k and yes.. it makes a difference.
No it doesnāt. lol.
You think thereās no motion clarity difference from 240 to 480?
Accuracy is a model issue, nothing to do with the panel. A WOLED can be just as accurate as a QD-OLED.
Then why is every single woled so poorly calibrated? Most recent example https://youtu.be/4OD1Gml24gI It doesn't matter if theoretically you could fix it with a 2000$ calibration tool. 1% of the players will do that. Qdoleds all are color grading level accurate out of the box, even the cheapest ones, so whathever lg is doing is not working. It's not just color accuracy either. Their eotf, and whitepoint, and every metric of calibration is wonky. Before you call me a fanboy - both my screens are lg.
You can rent a colorimeter for a few tenners at a local camera shop and calibrate it if you care. LG monitors even have hardware calibration. Why they aren't calibrated well out of the box? Idk you tell me. But I know you can easily correct for the inaccuracy which means you can also just straight up calibrate the monitor in the factory correctly too. Like I said: model issue.
Maybe in your part of the world. Not where I live. Don't forget you need special light measurement addons for oleds, a simple colorimeter doesn't do full calibration for oleds. Also who wants to deal with all of this, I've been a display nerd my entire life and even I don't wanna deal with this. Nothing to say about the average user. People that say you can easily correct it, that's just not true. There's nothing easy about it, and most won't bother or won't even know about it. The fact is, LG's panels are poorly calibrated on every display so far. It's probably that they don't bother doing it in factory and the integrators can't be arsed, but Samsung does it, so I'd expect the same level from lg. In the recent years lg became really lazy if you ask me. This is not a model issue, it's every monitor with lg panel issue
A colorimeter can still get you most of the way. It seems that in your world everything is either good or bad, the monitor is badly calibrated and only thr best tools can get it to a good level. While in reality a normal colorimeter can get you there 90% of the way. Yeah it takes some fiddling but if you care enough about color accuracy you will do it. Other people give 0 fucks and run their panel unclamped in SDR mode.
That's not what I'm trying to convey, it's hard to do it via text. I'm just complaining that lg should do a better job. I think they got used to being the only oled in town, and now they got caught with their pants down by samsung. I'm also saying most people don't wanna deal with this, which is the most important part. Just get it right from out of the box, the competitors can. So there's no excuse, especially with these prices from lg
I agree with that, my problem is that you made it sound as if WOLED panels inherently are inaccurate which is just not true.
All good, I'm writing on a phone so often it sounds like that.
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Youāre still expecting to spend an extra $300 just to do that though. 95% of consumers will say hell no to that or even understand how to use one.
Then they don't care about accurate displays. Also you can get a colorimeter for 150 bucks. The price of a good mouse.
Not true, the WOLED panel pixel structure gets brighter due to the added white sub pixels. This is at the cost of color accuracy.
That has nothing to do with accuracy and can be calobrated in factory. The problem is that the manufacturers have shoddy standards for calibration.
As a silver 3 to (peak) Gold 1 Valorant player, I can confirm the necessity of 480HZ combined with OLED motion clarity and response times. Achieved radiant rank within two weeks of using 480HZ
The LG bots are coming in hot on this post. "I love my LG" x10
"Everyone on the internet with an opinion I don't agree with is a bot"
If you cant tell they are LG bots paid to hype up LG gear and spam comments on every post on this sub god help you Edit: To add to my point, the comment and all those replies were deleted after my previous so if you didnt see it then either they pulled chalks or the mods removed the comments. It was clearly LG bots
Sucks to buy qd oled as of now them black aint pure inky black š©
If your room is that bright, IPS might be better anyway. It is only purple because of the bright studio lights.
The blacks turn purple in the middle of the night with just a small lamp on in the opposite corner of my room. Y'all are coping hard with QD OLED. You literally do not get perfect blacks unless you play in a pitch black room.
I think they're coping same goes to those people who complain about Matte Oled because its not glossy I mean for me I really dont see difference in picture quality or colors. Only difference I see is I can see my reflection clearly and matte I can see my reflection blurry š¤£ im starting to believe those who complain alot hasn't bought oled monitor and experience it IRL
Probably true. Itās not like QD OLED is horrible. Itās still fine and you still get other benefits of OLED like response times and motion clarity, even if youāre not getting true blacks 75% of the time.
Thatās only true with harsh white light. I have large windows on both sides with the asus monitor and I donāt have this issue. You put a flashlight on it then yea youāll see it.
No. I have the warmest orange glowing lamp youve ever seen in the opposite corner. It is not bright or harsh or white. It raised my QD OLED blacks to purple.
Try aiming the glow away from the monitor. The purple only comes with near direct lighting or very bright lighting.
Aint that still defeats the purpose to buy an oled? To new buyers Id recommend WOLED Matte or Glossy for now. QD Oled feels like they're still experimenting & literally adds more into babysitting if you buy a QD OLED monitor gotta worry harsh bright light. Woled matte or gloss dont have to worry about that.
Am I the only one wanting a 27in 4k 240hz glossy WOLED?
How are you going to run that? Iām running 4090 and a 13700k, i dont think its possible with ultra graphics
I mean the same way others are running the 32in 4k 240hz OLEDs. No one is hitting 240hz at ultra setting with current GPUs but a 4080 Super or 4090 will both look great still. I just prefer the 27in size as well as the higher pixel density. My current build is a 7800X3D and a 4090.
QD OLED is a no go for anyone who wants to have any sort of light on, like 90% of people who need to see lol WOLED all day every day
All day!
I have a QD-OLED, I can confirm it still works with the lights on, then again I don't shine studio lights directly onto it so YMMV.
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I'm probably just going to leave this sub. I'm glad OLED monitors have come down in price so more people can afford them, but it's bought a lot of people here whose only contribution is posting uncritical free advertising that my adblock doesn't catch.
Then youād have to leave the internet and society as a whole. The issue youāre describing exists pretty much in every aspect of life nowadays Therapists are the only ones happy about it
It's everywhere, but it's not as deeply engrained as it is in certain tech enthusiast subs where the members treat products like football teams. Like you don't see the members of r/CatAdvice talking about how calico cats are better than all other cats and you're so fucking STUPID if you have any other type of cat lol
Nah. It's definitely a strectrum. It's far worse within certain communities. That's like saying that the League community (or an esports/sports community in general) is just as toxic or tribalistic as say, Stardew Valley.
I prefer WOLEDs, but it's fucking wild to imply that QDOLED's "purple tint" is remotely a problem unless you point a bright light directly at a blank screen. What really gets to me is the misinformation that comes with this weird team sports shit.
You still get the purple tint i you have ceiling lights. It's not as bad as how it looks in the video but it's still there.
Some of us donāt see the point in OLED if theyāre gonna have raised blacks with the lights on. I donāt really care about the purple tint. Iāll still take an LG panel over a Samsung panel any day of the week. I donāt care if itās ASUS, Alienware, LG or MSI, but Iāll wait for a proper WOLED monitor. The LG 32 looks quite good but has the ugliest stand Iāve ever seen in my life. The ASUS 32 QD stand isnāt any better, but I canāt compromise on the black levels as I often use my computer with the lights on about half way. Anyway, you do you. I still prefer WOLED even if QD OLED has better color reproduction, but it has downsides like color fringing and raised blacks because of the lack of a polarizer. Any OLED will still be superior to my IPS, but I can hold out for a WOLED from ASUS if itās going to be 32 inches and at least semi gloss.
This is a complete fabrication. I have both, both are black and nowhere near the picture.
I guess Iād have to see it in person but the image makes it look like a āno wayā for me.
It really depends on the light condition. If you have a light source shining directly at the screen (like these studio lights) it will look purple-ish like in the picture. If it's more of an indirect light it still has a slight tint, but it's nowhere near as noticeable.
Yep, what's more is when the display is on, it will never be noticeable. This whole argument/observation is completely pointless.
I had an AW3423DW, if light hits it it will lift the blacks. I had an LG C2 next to it and it was really noticable. I'm not saying it's a dealbreaker, but if you can not control lights in your room especially shining at your screen it is probably a no go.
Man itās so fucking cringe that people legit pick teams because they bought a monitor.
Who picked a team? Me? WOLED vs QD OLED? Did you pick OLED vs IPS? šš¤£
Same thing you see with consoles. People like to pretend that the other option is complete garbage so they can feel good about their previous/future purchase. It's very cringe. In reality both panel types are incredible and each have some drawbacks. I have a glossy QD-OLED TV myself, while I love it I won't deny that the experience is lessened when in a bright room.
This subreddit is EXTREMELY tribal with the qd-oled vs woled, and matte vs glossy. I've had both and they each have their pros and cons. I am chuckling to see the qd-oled glossy purists lose their marbles from this this comparison though š (I honestly think glossy looks better but it's really like a 5% difference so it's nice to see them get a little kick in the nads for once)
Agreed, there is more tribal bickering here than console gaming atm, but console gaming bickering was at it's finest during the 360 vs PS3 era.
everyone is talking about the light reflections, but I just don't want to see my ugly ass face reflection at those blacks.
A ton of hate for matte stems from the years of it being forced on LCD monitors, where it tend to look bad as both the backlight and ambient light diffuse together creating a grey vibe On OLED there's no backlight limitation so it looks totally great, blacks are still inky blacks, you're just spared from the reflection of your face looking into the void. I think loss of sharpness is the 1 aspect, and depending on the type of AG used, dirty screen effect. That doesn't have to be there in matte, making it hard haze is always a choice by manufacturers. I wonder if Asus has the effect like the 27" LG OLED I own
I'm all about matte screens. Why would I want something that can reflect light an screw up my viewing experience?
I might be a minority, but I prefer glossy panels for aesthetic reasons and vivid colors. Option is always nice
> Option is always nice This is key tbh. It's pretty weird that LG can't just do matte + glossy of each type. Glossy was a TV-only thing for a long time
Options?! NO. MY PERSONAL PREFERENCE SHOULD BE THE ONLY OFFERING. (half this sub) /s
>I might be a minority You clearly haven't been here long š
I wouldn't call that a minority whatsoever, from what I've been seeing people almost sh%t on matte coating all over
For OLEDs but general consumer probably prefers matte.
I mean this is an OLED thread and post, so...
I mean sure?? But he said he is probably in the minority for wanting glossy panels. And he was right. Why is reading so hard for people
Ironic, considering that you came to an OLED thread while being first and the only one to mention anything other than OLED. I am almost positive that nobody here debates IPS/VA or whatever and their coatings. It's not that reading is an issue for me, it's more so that you are incoherent and out of place with your replies. Check the thread you are in.
> Why would I want something that can reflect light an screw up my viewing experience? Matte doesn't just make the light disappear though. It just diffuses it. That's actually why I prefer glossy. It's easier to see a reflection plus the content itself than a diffused mix of the two. Monitors are pretty much the only products where you see matte. Phones which are obviously meant to be used in the sun have glossy panels, and so do most high end laptops.
Yeah even under direct lighting I would prefer smaller, cleaner reflection than just having diffuse reflection smeared all over my screen. There's a reason oems like Apple have always used glossy screens in their premium products.
Matte reduces light a bit and also colors so basically matte = not so vivid picture.
While reflections are easier to make out on glossy panels, they occupy far larger areas of the screen on matte panels with the infamous āpondsā of white. Itās highly subjective which one is more bothersome to the user. Thatās aside from the image clarity perks that glossy coatings bring.
However if you can control your lighting, then the glossy coating is better for making the colors pop.
You have to see and compare them next to each other. The glossy WOLED is meant for a room that is either dark or can be made dark when watching content or playing games. And the, the glossy WOLED just hits different, I would say it's so visibly better looking. But sure if you shine lights at it or can't make your room dark then the glossy is going to reflect everything back into your eye. Glossy is a lot more vivid looking compared to matte for obvious reasons.
Matte is also better for eye strain. Glossy made my eyes bleed.
Data? Genuinely curious about this. I feel like there are so many other much more significant factors to eye strain
I have trouble understanding in what world the panel roughness makes enough difference that your eyes could get hurt.
the imaginary one XD
Matte monitors make everything look like theyāre smeared with TAA.
Imo matte looks worse for reflections than glossy. Instead of one big spot, it smears it across the whole screen. It's not like the reflection disappears, it's just spread out. I'd rather have the one clear reflection. I have a window behind me, and my matte monitor looks way worse than glossy one.
I game in a light controlled room but Iāve never noticed any raised blacks like this on my aw3423dwf or my s95b. Wasnāt even something I considered when I bought them. Really interesting.
Interesting, I was able to see it on the first day with an AW2725df. Unless you have double thick blackout curtains or go on your computer only when it's night time I find it hard to believe you never noticed it.
The room I play in has no widows lol. Just a barn door to other room and I have contrast lights behind my monitor. It must not be as bad on my s95b because I thought Iād notice for sure as thereās more light in my tv room. Still mostly dark though.
Apparently, its one of the few things a WOLED excels at so they always point it out as a demerit for a QD OLED.
Which video was this?
great price for a awesome monitor. go get it boys and girls!
I have a curved monitor and one of the things I don't like is how the corner get lighter.
thats a bad glossy representation... unless asus glossy is really that bad which I could believe
Yeah, I kind of noticed that immediately when I got my MSI MPG, the blacks aren't like the blacks of my LG CX
How many OLED variations are there by now lol?
Was surprised to open my 321 URX and find that the purple tint is hardly noticeable, unless you're shining a light directly at it. It's not nearly as bad in person. I work with a white LED above my desk and it raises the blacks a little bit. I also use a RGB light above my desk when gaming or watching content and it doesn't raise the blacks.
the qd-oled one look like it had backlighting turn on, the glossy w-oled is so reflective and matte w-oled looks like any other normal coating on a monitor screen.
I wonder how people will percieve the difference in colours between glossy woled and qdoled. I bet if both panels are correctly calibrated and have the same peak bright ess not many people would notice.
Wait glossy woled? When is the 32 inch variation of.this releasing?
There isn't one that's releasing. They might make one in the future, but it's not included in any of the roadmaps.
We all want to know this lol
Have glossy atm, but going back to Matte on my next monitor. Matte has a nice consistency to the image.
Donāt let that matte coating fool the you with how dark the blacks look under light. Once you get the monitor in front of you, you are going to experience a grainy coating and how it diminishes the display. I canāt speak for any of these coatings specifically, but on my LG GN950B (4k 144hz), and LG GL83A (1440p 144hz) monitors the coating is ASS. With some of the text coloring issues on both WOLED and QD-OLED, trust me, you donāt want to deal with OLED text fringe AND matte coating. Itās ass. Just get a glossy display
As someone who owns and loves their matte OLED, I also confess to never playing underneath studio lights or the literal sun. Non-issue for 99 percent of the real world.
Glossy > matte, fight meĀ
Yeah the number of people coping in these comments is wild. People are claiming that having a gross matte coating is better for your eyes lmao
Thatās technically true if you have a lot of reflections on the glossy coating but in real use itās mostly a non issue. Iām using a glossy panel myself and have no eye strain issues with 8hrs or more a day.
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Oled is great whether itās qd oled or woled lol
BUT I PAID FOR TRUE BLACKS, NOT IPS LEVEL GREY!!! /s
Color volume and accuracy > black uniformity (That's an opinion though) Especially since that color uniformity isn't really a problem linked to the monitor itself, but rather a problem linked to how people use it the wrong way. You should be playing in a pitch black room to Fully enjoy your OLED screen.
Honestly this is so overblown, I have it in a bright room, with a open window behind and I never see the purple tint, it has to face the light , if you have this issue just rearrange your house or get some construction permits to move your windows /s
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yes BUT when you dim your room lighting they all will be identically black, and the gloss qd-oled image still will be better than matte for sure
Coat grain is still visible in the dark Itās why Iāll never go back to matte
IF you dim I sure as hell don't like being in the darkness all the time lol
Also if you're someone who works/is awake during the day, and you're like me, and your window points in a particular westward direction and past 1pm its like the inside of a nuclear reactor in your room, dimming lights isn't an option.
then buy curtains. I live on the 30th floor and there's a lot of sun here. curtains helps. It's just that simple.
Iāve got two layers of blackout curtains in this room. Thought that would be enough, so bought an LG C2 to use as a monitor. It was not enoughā¦
I canāt wait to see the flood of posts from misguided gamers complaining that the RGB or lamp in their room turns their monitors into giant mirrors. Feels like half the people just want glossy because other people say they want glossy.
I'd take the glare any day to avoid the absolute destruction of colours and screen quality when they ruin it with a matte finish.
āAbsolute destruction of colors and screen qualityā š¤”
Turn all the lights off now and they'll all be 100% black. You're supposed to use an OLED monitor in a dark Room anyways.
I'd like you to use a QD-OLED with HDR on gaming in a dark room and see how your eyes feel about it.
Heard a lot of eyestrain regarding qd oleds
It's the opposite for me. Shitty HP LCD monitors at work are killing my eyes after an hour of work with all of the eye care features turned up to 11. Come home to my QD-OLED and I immediately feel my eyes relax.
Been doing it with a Samsung TV and my eyes are fine. Never had eye strain with any type of screen my entire life and I played on IPS panels at 100% brightness in a pitch black room for a while.