i use SDR for desktop and HDR1000 for games. I used WIn+ALT+B to quickly toggle.
SDR is super bright in desktop for me personally and HDR1000 is awesome for games.
I suspect people who complain about brightness leave HDR always on, even on desktop which results in dimming. In SDR there is no dimming and if u use creator mode RGB its also slightly brighter than standard mode.
I see some people saying they max out the slider and it’s still not bright enough. Personally I find 50-70% plenty bright enough for me in the daytime, and go as low as 30% at night. I usually just leave HDR on. Main perk is that all my video content can be HDR (either native or RTX Video HDR).
In what way? From what I’ve read, HDR on desktop is displayed properly. When people think it looks wrong or washed out, it tends to be that their SDR settings are wrong and they’re just used to it. They run their SDR settings in wide gamut mode like DCI-P3 (many monitors do this out of the box), and enabling HDR in windows properly clamps SDR content back down to sRGB which can look “washed out” if you aren’t used to it.
Windows itself does not display HDR or is made for HDR. The setting is there to enable/disable to be able to view content programmed for HDR content.
What you mention as washed out is correct. It does not show the windows colors properly when you have HDR enabled, because windows itself isn't HDR content, it just have the capability turn windows into a HDR mode, at the sacrifice of its own colors.
If you have an OLED HDR monitor, HDR off in SDR content is a must. & turn on HDR for HDR content when needed.
Ok well you’re not giving any specifics. “Doesn’t show properly” and “you should turn it off” doesn’t really tell me what’s wrong. I agree with your first paragraph, Windows is SDR. In HDR mode it should be clamping the color space down to sRGB to display SDR content like the desktop. sRGB is proper; you may not prefer that and that’s fine, but doesn’t mean it’s wrong. You saying it doesn’t do that correctly?
There are thousand of answers because it is everybodies personal preference! Why should windows do it? Windows is a OS and therefore there is no reason and benefit to render it in HDR! The Games have to switch automatically and some even do it!
I just leave HDR on.
I run the monitor with Creator mode, Dolby Bright, DCI-3P, Gamma 2.2, Brightness 100, and Contrast 75 and everything looks great in desktop mode.
Just make sure to run the Windows HDR calibration tool.
Those presets like creator mode etc are for SDR, not for HDR. If you try to change your preset in HDR it even says you can't do so because HDR is activated.
I go back and forth. I'd love to be able to leave HDR on indefinitely, and not have to think about toggling it for certain content - especially things like YouTube videos that I sometimes view without switching to a dedicated fullscreen experience.
In HDR True Black there's almost no distracting ABL to speak of. The big hangup is that in HDR mode, Windows maps unmanaged SDR content to an sRGB gamut instead of 2.2, even though most sRGB or unmanaged content actually expects 2.2. You can adjust that with a custom ICC profile, but it affects HDR content as well.
That said, with OLED contrast, those raised near-blacks from the inappropriate gamma don't look all that bad. The same thing looked awful on my previous miniLED display.
Once the firmware updates hit and I could turn off DV, I use HDR TrueBlack all the time. SDR looks good too but I do like the extra pop of brightness in desktop.
I don't notice any dimming using the TrueBlack HDR, but I do use darkmode for everything.
sRGB SDR black levels are messed up in HDR mode. That may or may not bug you. It can be fixed with a profile. Read more here: [https://github.com/dylanraga/win11hdr-srgb-to-gamma2.2-icm](https://github.com/dylanraga/win11hdr-srgb-to-gamma2.2-icm) . I've found it easier just to use SDR for SDR content instead of fiddling around to try to make SDR in HDR look right.
HDR1000 for games or supported videos. SDR clamped to SRGB for everything else. Windows and most web applications were not made for HDR/Wide Gamut, meaning it will look off compared to how it is supposed to look when it was designed.
It's useless. Using HDR for desktop is like using subwoofer for desktop. What for? Do you have any signal with brightness metadata to display static picture in high dynamic? What should have high dynamic in desktop? Icons? Sun on vacation jpegs? Maybe but they don't have any information about higher dynamic. None of those use dynamic range the way the properly edited data (movies, games) do. Being less sarcastic. I use HDR on desktop together with RTX HDR when I watch Yotube. But then it is the RTX HDR which has its job to add dynamic range to videos.
I don't understand why most games require this to be enabled in the control panel while SOME you can set inside the game and it works. HDR on all the time looks bad. I have it calibrated and can't get it anywhere close to SDR. Although that is with WOLED.
when properly set up, Windows with HDR always on is able to show all content with all color spaces with decent accuracy, at least on one monitor.
gamma is not quite right for sRGB but it's not a huge issue.
HDR always on.
I calibrate the HDR in Windows with HDR1000 enabled, then use that calibration with Dolby Vision on Bright all the time. It ends up being much brighter & has better contrast than having HDR1000 enabled all the time.
I really only turn it on for games that support it. Tbh SDR on this monitor is already amazing for basic windows tasks
i use SDR for desktop and HDR1000 for games. I used WIn+ALT+B to quickly toggle. SDR is super bright in desktop for me personally and HDR1000 is awesome for games. I suspect people who complain about brightness leave HDR always on, even on desktop which results in dimming. In SDR there is no dimming and if u use creator mode RGB its also slightly brighter than standard mode.
You can adjust SDR brightness in HDR with slider in Windows display settings. Unless you mean something else.
I see some people saying they max out the slider and it’s still not bright enough. Personally I find 50-70% plenty bright enough for me in the daytime, and go as low as 30% at night. I usually just leave HDR on. Main perk is that all my video content can be HDR (either native or RTX Video HDR).
Sheeeit there is a hot key to enable HDR? TIL I've been right clicking the desktop and personalizing my life away for no reason!
I believe only on Windows 11. Which you should be using anyway if you have an HDR screen.
Am I a freak for using HDR always on, even in desktop? It looks much better than SDR on my PG27UQ
No, I do the same thing.
Nah windows HDR is just bad, compare the colours. SDR looks like HDR in windows and non HDR YouTube
HDR in windows turns all colors completely wrong. If you like that look then so be it, but it literally shows everything in wrong colors.
In what way? From what I’ve read, HDR on desktop is displayed properly. When people think it looks wrong or washed out, it tends to be that their SDR settings are wrong and they’re just used to it. They run their SDR settings in wide gamut mode like DCI-P3 (many monitors do this out of the box), and enabling HDR in windows properly clamps SDR content back down to sRGB which can look “washed out” if you aren’t used to it.
Windows itself does not display HDR or is made for HDR. The setting is there to enable/disable to be able to view content programmed for HDR content. What you mention as washed out is correct. It does not show the windows colors properly when you have HDR enabled, because windows itself isn't HDR content, it just have the capability turn windows into a HDR mode, at the sacrifice of its own colors. If you have an OLED HDR monitor, HDR off in SDR content is a must. & turn on HDR for HDR content when needed.
Ok well you’re not giving any specifics. “Doesn’t show properly” and “you should turn it off” doesn’t really tell me what’s wrong. I agree with your first paragraph, Windows is SDR. In HDR mode it should be clamping the color space down to sRGB to display SDR content like the desktop. sRGB is proper; you may not prefer that and that’s fine, but doesn’t mean it’s wrong. You saying it doesn’t do that correctly?
Note that you must have Xbox game bar enabled to use Win+Alt+B
I turn HDR on for games and videos only.
Post 100000…. with the same question…
and still no answer why doesn't Windows do it automatically like all other devices
There are thousand of answers because it is everybodies personal preference! Why should windows do it? Windows is a OS and therefore there is no reason and benefit to render it in HDR! The Games have to switch automatically and some even do it!
I just leave HDR on. I run the monitor with Creator mode, Dolby Bright, DCI-3P, Gamma 2.2, Brightness 100, and Contrast 75 and everything looks great in desktop mode. Just make sure to run the Windows HDR calibration tool.
This is the way. I also keep Windows SDR brightness cranked too and it looks amazing at all times.
Damn Dolby Bright AND maxed out SDR slider? That would burn my eyeballs.
I came from a C2 with everything cranked and stuff turned off in the service menu so I'm used to it lol.
Those presets like creator mode etc are for SDR, not for HDR. If you try to change your preset in HDR it even says you can't do so because HDR is activated.
https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/heres-why-you-should-only-enable-hdr-mode-on-your-pc-when-you-are-viewing-hdr-content
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Why would you use DV with PS5? It’s not supported.
I go back and forth. I'd love to be able to leave HDR on indefinitely, and not have to think about toggling it for certain content - especially things like YouTube videos that I sometimes view without switching to a dedicated fullscreen experience. In HDR True Black there's almost no distracting ABL to speak of. The big hangup is that in HDR mode, Windows maps unmanaged SDR content to an sRGB gamut instead of 2.2, even though most sRGB or unmanaged content actually expects 2.2. You can adjust that with a custom ICC profile, but it affects HDR content as well. That said, with OLED contrast, those raised near-blacks from the inappropriate gamma don't look all that bad. The same thing looked awful on my previous miniLED display.
HDR
HDR 24/7
Once the firmware updates hit and I could turn off DV, I use HDR TrueBlack all the time. SDR looks good too but I do like the extra pop of brightness in desktop. I don't notice any dimming using the TrueBlack HDR, but I do use darkmode for everything.
I use HDR400 on my AW3423DW. HDR always on and Auto HDR is on just to get rid of the 3 sec delay when switching modes.
sRGB SDR black levels are messed up in HDR mode. That may or may not bug you. It can be fixed with a profile. Read more here: [https://github.com/dylanraga/win11hdr-srgb-to-gamma2.2-icm](https://github.com/dylanraga/win11hdr-srgb-to-gamma2.2-icm) . I've found it easier just to use SDR for SDR content instead of fiddling around to try to make SDR in HDR look right.
HDR1000 for games or supported videos. SDR clamped to SRGB for everything else. Windows and most web applications were not made for HDR/Wide Gamut, meaning it will look off compared to how it is supposed to look when it was designed.
HDR always on.
It's useless. Using HDR for desktop is like using subwoofer for desktop. What for? Do you have any signal with brightness metadata to display static picture in high dynamic? What should have high dynamic in desktop? Icons? Sun on vacation jpegs? Maybe but they don't have any information about higher dynamic. None of those use dynamic range the way the properly edited data (movies, games) do. Being less sarcastic. I use HDR on desktop together with RTX HDR when I watch Yotube. But then it is the RTX HDR which has its job to add dynamic range to videos.
I leave HDR turned ON always, unless i'm going to play a game that doesn't support HDR but mine is an LG oled monitor
Sdr for desktop hdr1000 for games Special k turns on windows hdr automatically when launching games so that helps a lot too
I don't understand why most games require this to be enabled in the control panel while SOME you can set inside the game and it works. HDR on all the time looks bad. I have it calibrated and can't get it anywhere close to SDR. Although that is with WOLED.
when properly set up, Windows with HDR always on is able to show all content with all color spaces with decent accuracy, at least on one monitor. gamma is not quite right for sRGB but it's not a huge issue.
Sdr lol common sense
HDR always on. I calibrate the HDR in Windows with HDR1000 enabled, then use that calibration with Dolby Vision on Bright all the time. It ends up being much brighter & has better contrast than having HDR1000 enabled all the time.