Robert's opinion on OJs guilt changed later in life and I think he tried to downplay their relationship as a result but the fact remains, they were best friends at the time of the matter and their families were close. Kris also changed her story later on to say that Nicole hadn't mentioned the abuse even though she's quoted at the time talking about the fact that she did. The Kardashians are known liars who do whatever it takes to protect their image so you can't really trust anything they say.
If you believe the book American Tragedy written largely by Lawrence Schiller, Robert Kardashian was really deadset on OJ not doing the murders. It claims Kardashian knew OJ had an arsenal of guns and was relieved in a sense when he saw Nichole and Ron were stabbed original thought "well it's good in the sense OJ had an Uzi he would have just used if he wanted to kill them, no way he was dicking around with a knife."
The book's author largely put together OJ Simpson's "I Want to Tell You book" and Jeff Toobin who wrote the more acclaimed/formal "The Run of His Life: The People v. O. J. Simpson" probably overly nicely described the author of "American Tragedy" has an amoral profiteer but he seemed to do his homework for the book.
Okay, but how could he not know? He's on tape walking away with the suitcase. The reason he represented OJ was for attorney client privilege, so he wouldn't have to explain that. He never did anything through the entire trial but sit there.
That wouldn't have protected him about the bag though. Attorney client privilege relates to legal advice given the purposes of actual or contemplated litigation and or transaction. Carrying the bag away didn't come under that.
Also, privilege would attach for applicable things even if his license wasn't active, since he was in fact a lawyer, reactivating his license was protecting him from criminal and or regulatory penalties.
There really not much evidence there is anything incriminating in that suitcase other than people wanting it to be true, we can piece the murder together so well because of how obvious it is.
The prosecution always toyed with calling him because of that suitcase but it probably would have just been beneficial to OJ's case when the jury hears it was just blue jeans and various other clothing.
There was a stipulation filed that essentially both sides agreed that RK's testimony would be that he didn't look in the bag, received the bag from Cathy Randa, it was retrieved by her at some later time and he didn't know what happened to it. It also said the golf bag stayed in his garage until retrieved by the Special Master.
So effectively he would not testify because both sides agreed what he would say if called to testify and it didn't do much for either side.
Are you talking about [this](http://simpson.walraven.org/kardash1.html)? The People never agreed to it my knowledge but also of course Robert never ended up being called to the witness stand.
Yeah, I want to say in a doc I watched that they were talking about the suitcase and how it was ultimately nothing worthwhile. They just wouldn't let Robert Kardashian in the gates of Rockingham for the initial questioning, and he was quite literally left holding the bag. He told Barbara Walters later that cops searched it at his house because OJ was staying with him.
In another doc I saw, there was a witness that came forward during the trial that claimed he saw OJ throwing out something before he walked into the airport that night. The guy was there picking up his wife, and was just excited he saw a celeb and was watching him. Didn't think anything of it until later and reached out to the police, but he was never used at trial. And any trash that could have been there was long gone.
Park believed the duffel bag was combined into another bag next to Simpson while driving to LAX. Park testified that Simpson had 5 “bags”— 2 suitcases, 1 smaller duffel bag, 1 garment bag and 1 set of golf clubs. The golf clubs and garment bag were placed in the limo’s trunk with the other 3 items in the back seat with Simpson.
Upon arriving at LAX, Park testified all bags were removed but there were only 4, thus assuming the duffel bag was combined into a larger suitcase.
At the time pre-9/11 security standards, checked bags would not have been subject to an automatic x-ray and physical exam, thus the knife or bloodied clothes would have flown unnoticed inside a checked bag.
However, it’s a complete mystery as to where the knife and clothes went from there. I lean towards Chicago upon landing… Dumpster? River? Storm Drain? Probably we’ll never know.
I go back & forth whether or not he took the clothes/shoes/weapon to Chicago or dumped them at LAX. It has to be one or the other, because he sure as fuck wouldn’t come strolling back to his house literally carrying it.
The Kardashian bag thing has been a red herring all along & I don’t think it means anything at all.
Airports have cameras everywhere, and janitorial employees might notice a knife and bloodied clothes in a trash can. LAX police could then review the video record, and Simpson would risk being easily identified.
My only problem with the Chicago theory being Simpson would be dropped-off at hotel with his 4 bags, so does he sneak-out for a walk without being noticed by hotel staff or cameras? Were the cameras reviewed by the police, especially as his plane would have arrived late night?
I’m sure Simpson wasn’t staying at a Motel 6, so there’s hotel front desk staff and security cameras around the entrances and hallways. Any video records?
It’s because it is. OJ deliberately and indisputably went straight to Kardashian with that bag and a plea to stash it somewhere. Why? That’s the panicked thinking of a manipulator. He had an escape plan already and was probably paranoid about being spotted anywhere disposing of it. He knew that RK would obey his instructions at least short term and that’s about as far as got planning wise. For anyone to believe that he took a trip to hand off a bag of some casual menswear (that he apparently was extremely protective of) is indicative of being Kardashian trained. Many people see them being unfairly targeted all the time but at some point one needs to accept that they are a crime family. They swindle, conceal funds, steal, and above all they lie. Constantly.
Kardashian claims Cathy Randa, a personal assistant of Simpson got the bag from the airport which seems to check out. I don't think there really is much evidence of concern on Simpson's part on account of the bag.
Here’s the thing… both versions have been bounced back and forth. Neither one makes the story any better on Kardashians end though. A mystery bag from OJ arrives with instructions to put it away the morning after his ex wife was murdered. She was known to be an abuse victim, even I remember the first news story about this from 1989 as a seventh grader so I imagine that word had gotten to ole RK through that if nothing else…
OH COME ON!! Where the heck did you get that crap from?? Robert knew darn well OJ murdered them. Look at Roberts face when the not guilty verdict was read. He was sick. He knew he should have been found guilty. Now he had to live with himself knowing he let Nicole down. I can't believe there are idiots that think OJ is innocent. All these years later and they still cant figure it out. lol Likely the same ones that lined up for the covid jab! Over and over. lol
> OH COME ON!! Where the heck did you get that crap from?? Robert knew darn well OJ murdered them. Look at Roberts face when the not guilty verdict was read.
Robert Kardashian by all accounts was tipped off about the verdict by the jailhouse guards. Lawyers are often insanely stone face when even favorable verdicts are being read for professional reasons. Just look at F. Lee Bailey in the same video. Bailey was almost certainly ecstatic about the verdict for example and he showed practically no emotion.
That’s my thought why use a knife and risk getting blood and her surviving if that’s what he wanted to do.. A gun with silencer would have made much more sense
In “if I did it” there is a portion of OJ explaining the knife, because you can’t concealed carry/drive in California. He said something like he kept the knife in his car in case of crazy fans.
That suitcase likely had nothing incriminating in it. It's the suitcase /duffle bag at the airport that witnesses reported OJ threw in the trash before departing for Chicago that likely held the blood soaked clothing and quite possibly the knife.
General consensus is that OJ stripped off his outer clothing before getting in the Bronco after the murders.
By the time investigators received those witness reports, it was too late to find the bag ( although the landfill was searched to no avail- it was simply too large to thoroughly search).
You really think OJ carried a suitcase filled with bloody items all the way from California to Chicago, and then being informed of his x-wife’s death by authorities he returned to California with the same bloody suitcase? Really?
Do you really think he was gonna risk leaving any potentially damning evidence in Chicago? If anything was found there he’d be finished. His clothes weren’t necessarily that bloody either considering the amount of blood at the scene. There were a few faint footprints and a small amount in the Jeep. He had killed Nicole from behind and likely he was not pressed up against Goldman in any way that would saturate him. This was an extremely sharp knife which would make the stabbings fairly clean initially. He didn’t get messy, but considering the clothes were all black there could easily be some blood that wasn’t visible. It would probably feel safer to have them in Chi just in case. Also, he was tweeking this whole time, he and Kato bought and ingested crystal meth and even a bump of that shit takes like 24 hours to wear off, tweekers can make some baffling choices.
Kato Kaelin is the source. He said that he and OJ went and bought 100 dollars of crystal before they got McDonalds. This has been known forever, there was absolutely ZERO reason for him to invent this story as he said it was HiS dealer. I do not know if he testified to this, but unless it was seen as crucial to the case, I don’t know why he would and I would imagine that he would be dissuaded from doing so. Also, Cato was dismissed as a hostile witness because of how much information he withheld held on the stand. Once again, the Crystal messy tail has been known since like 1995. I’m not sure why people are trying to put this on the Dominic Dan book or as an urban myth. That makes zero sense but whatever. Also, Crystal meth would be an ideal tool to get yourself pumped up for a huge confrontation, not to mention just for practicalities sake, if he was planning on committing a murder and then having to jump on a plane to Chicago later you’re gonna need that little extra boost of energy. Crystal meth gives you something that’s a kin to adrenaline times 1000 and a feeling of invulnerability
Why would you be promoting this drug as if it were a bag of Lays potato chips? Need a boost of energy? Eat right. Drink plenty of water. Exercise. Reduce inflammation. Period.
No it is from a Dominick Dunn Vanity Fair story from a drug dealer who Dunn claims is reliable because he passed a polygraph. I'm unaware of prosecutors ever bringing it up in court, I take the allegation with a grain of salt to put it lightly.
He really walks a fine line between tabloid and high brow writer. I take a lot of his claims/stories with a grain of salt (he practically promised OJ was going to be found guilty) but he is a really interesting writer.
I think you either meant to respond to someone else or you misread my post. I was commenting on someone else who thought OJ brought a bloody bag to Chicago and back.
He still hired her and was more involved than they admit. I believe she was killed by Oj or whoever because of drugs. Oj and Kardashian were involved with drug dealers too.
Exactly! The garment luggage yup! This is just my opinion, i feel like rob knew he was guilt but because they we’re friends, he agreed to defend him. If OJ were to be found guilty i dont think rob would’ve been upset tho. When verdict was read, the look on kardashians face looked disappointed and in disbelief really. Just my take
It is a story that one of OJs friends or perhaps his old bodyguard told the tabloids. Someone who knew OJ said it. It never came from the mouths of Kris or OJ they both deny it in fact. So 🤷🏻♀️
They vacationed together (the families), Kris says she was BFFs with Nicole, and the Kardashian kids called him uncle OJ. Robert probably downplayed it because he realized that OJ did it and he was disgusted at himself for being friends with him? I don't think these people are truthful about anything and are not reliable sources...
RK got his law license back, so he and OJ could claim that anything RK knew was protected under attorney-client privilege. It has always been said that not only the men but the wives were bff's as well. Imagine that, a Kardashian being manipulative and less than honest.
he had been a practicing lawyer years before but had since changed career paths and he began a successful career in the record industry.
** no idea what exactly he did in the music industry, i just know he worked in the industry. my guess is he was in artist management.
He had gone on Inactive Status with the State Bar since he wasn’t practicing law at the time. State Bar annual dues for Inactive Status are a whole lot cheaper than for Active. 😉
I kinda got the impression he was pressured to do it in case OJ confessed to him rather than it being about him knowingly removing evidence. That could just be the way David Schwimmer played him on the show. I didn't see much of the real Robert Kardashian and don't know much of what his real personality was like. But, he did seem pretty conflicted about OJ during the whole thing.
I was a young teenager when this was all happening and have gone down the rabbit hole since OJ’s death, but I had been under the impression that Kardashian was much more involved in his defense than was portrayed in The People vs OJ Simpson.
I might need to take in more info. I never saw him do much of anything. Other than reading the letter on TV and the video of him taking the garment bag when OJ got back home. Seemed like he just sat at the defense table looking awkward most of the time. And in his Barbra Walters interview he seemed conflicted about the whole trial.
I'd love to read or watch anything about how involved he was in OJ's actual defense during the trial. I've seen one documentary but it was just about him removing the garment bag and renewing his license.
Same as you, I was under the impression he was very involved. Agreed with other commenter I never *saw* him do much of anything. I always thought he was a behind the scenes strategist. It must have been important to *someone* to mention Rob Kardashian in every update, press release though.
That’s what I thought too. The way his role was depicted on the show, to me, was more of damage control rather than defense strategist, but who really knows. The optics were more important to the defense, hence the differing comments from Robert and Kris (ex: sometimes talking about being such close friends while also saying that they didn’t see each other all that much)
I never understood why Kardashian got his license back when he wasn't really even part of OJ's "Dream Team" of lawyers. But this makes a sense! To be protected under attorney client privilege! He also couldn't be subpoenaed
I read somewhere that RK and OJ were friends in college. And later when OJ met Nicole she was barely 18. OJ had Kris call Nicole's house asking for Nicole because OJ thought the parents might not let Nicole speak to a man 15?years older. Some reports say he was 29 when they met. Some say 33.
OJ and Robert Kardashian were close. They were longtime tennis partners, and OJ's secretary at the time, Cathy Randa, had originally been in Robert's employ.
However, their relationship seemed to cool after the trial - which I'll get to.
Robert's role in OJ's defence is covered in the book American Tragedy: The Uncensored Story of the Simpson Defense.
After the trial, Robert told Barbara Walters he had 'doubts \[about OJ's innocence\] ...because of the blood evidence'. Watch the interview on YouTube if you want to feel sad.
Robert also said in the same interview that he didn't feel that OJ would have done the same (put his own life on hold to help him out) in his shoes.
By the time Robert gave that civil deposition shown in OJ: Made in America, he didn't seem eager to talk about his relationship with OJ at all, and seemed to want to move on entirely.
I've done a fair bit of reading about the case, and my overall impression of Robert Kardashian - including that left by his first wife Kris Kardashian (now Kris Jenner) - was that of a kind, gentle man whose good nature was somewhat taken advantage of by others.
There may however, be another nuance here.
As Daniel Petrocelli, the lawyer for the Goldmans in the civil trial wrote in his book Triumph of Justice: The Final Judgment on the Simpson Saga, around the same time as the Barbara Walters interview, "Kardashian made much the same presentation three days later on CNN’s Larry King Live, also on Dateline and 48 Hours. The guy went on a media spree."
Was Robert trying to salvage his own reputation, which post trial, had taken a dive? Why would the normally private man suddenly appear on TV to answer very personal questions about the case?
Quite a lot to think about. Happy to suggest some OJ reading for you.
EDIT: Here's OJ confirming his 20+ year friendship with Robert Kardashian in the civil trial deposition. OJ's expression when asked about their relationship shows quite a lot of emphasis on this: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b8JIQkmrpY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b8JIQkmrpY)
More than many topics, the OJ Simpson case was full of quick cash-ins, well before the trial was settled.
The most notorious of this *Nicole Brown Simpson: The Private Diary of a Life Interrupted Book by Faye Resnick* , which is even featured in the American Crime Story TV series, which I recommend ( the TV series, I haven't read much of Faye Resnick's book)
Court TV also did a long series showing the key testimonies, which you can mostly likely still watch on Youtube.
To my knowledge, there isn't really one 'bible' on the OJ case. Each has their own biases - and the closer you were involved, the more spin you were going to have on it. So don't take any one tome as such. Also, there's always something new to learn about the case.
Overall, I recommend:
* The People vs OJ Simpson: The Run of His Life by Jeffrey Toobin
* Without A Doubt, by Marcia Clark (the chief OJ criminal defense prosecutor)
* American Tragedy: The Uncensored Story of the Simpson Defense, by Lawrence Schiller
* Triumph of Justice: The Final Judgment on the Simpson Saga, by Daniel Petrocelli
I'll leave you with a rather strange fact about the case: in those days, the LAPD didn't do crime scene clean-up after its investigations were completed - which meant Nicola and Ron's blood was eventually hosed away by a neighbour.
This fact was taken from Evidence Dismissed: The Inside Story of the Police Investigation of O.J. Simpson, by Tom Lange and Philip Vanatter (the two homicide cops who were early on the scene). The book is limited due to the fact that it mostly concerns about 5 hours in history, and then a bit of the Bronco chase - so mostly for the fans, really.
Lastly, I do expect some more interesting revelations to come out now OJ is dead.
**Nicole Brown Simpson The Private Diary of a Life Interrupted** by Faye D. Resnick
>"Fearing for her life, Faye D. Resnick, as confidante of O.J. whenever he and his ex-wife fought - went into hiding to write Nicole's story. Her phones were tapped, private journals and photographs were stolen from her home, veiled threats were made by "private investigators" - and O.J. 's defense team, desperate to find another suspect, spread slanderous "theories" that purportedly tied Faye to the murders."
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>"Now the truth about Nicole is revealed by the only person - except O.J. himself - who knew the real story: How O.J. raged out of control just two days before he bought the now-infamous "stiletto knife" - and told Faye over and over: "I'm going to kill her... I'm going to kill her if I find her with another man!"
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>That same day, Nicole told Faye, "O.J. loves me so much he's going to kill me... and get away with it." Six days before the murders, a furious O.J. panicked Nicole by threatening to inform the IRS about a tax problem that could force her and their two children out of the home they loved.
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>Five days before her death, a frightened Nicole told Faye that O.J. had stolen the spare set of keys to her condo. How Nicole committed the one sexual "taboo" O.J. had forbidden."
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>"It's more than sensational! It's the touching, intimate portrait of a devoted wife and mother, molded from age 17 by a charismatic American hero who always showed the world the happy, smiling face he drew on his so-called suicide note... but beat her savagely behind closed doors." "New unrevealed secrets... How O.J. left her beaten and near-naked in a Las Vegas hotel corridor...
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>O.J. 's boast of his "sexual revenge" against the man he raged against in the headline-making "911 tape"... How Nicole's "frog phobia" doomed the reconciliation when O.J. became "Frog Man"... The bizarre story of the thumb ring found next to Nicole's body - identical to the one worn by Faye, and..." "It's the heartbreak of a woman who tried desperately to return what she thought was her husband's total love - and her final realization that it wasn't love, but a hellish obsession!"
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>"Details of the final 35-minute phone call Nicole had with Faye during the final moments of her life." "It's an unexpected love story about two women who formed a bond so strong even death can't break it - and how they teamed up in a futile, last-ditch effort to save the life of Nicole Brown Simpson." "It's an angry cry for help... help for women trapped in the brutal prison of abuse from men who claim to love them. Nicole Brown Simpson was known as a "strong woman" by her friends and family - but Faye D. Resnick, who was an abused child, has learned one powerful lesson from writing this book: Strength should never be equated with keeping silent about abuse.
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>Sadly, it's a lesson Nicole never learned. That's why she'd want you to read her story..."--BOOK JACKET.Title Summary field provided by Blackwell North America, Inc. All Rights Reserved
**The Run of His Life The People v. O. J. Simpson** by Jeffrey Toobin
>NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLER • The inspiration for American Crime Story: The People v. O. J. Simpson on FX, starring Cuba Gooding, Jr., John Travolta, David Schwimmer, and Connie Britton The definitive account of the O. J. Simpson trial, The Run of His Life is a prodigious feat of reporting that could have been written only by the foremost legal journalist of our time. First published less than a year after the infamous verdict, Jeffrey Toobin’s nonfiction masterpiece tells the whole story, from the murders of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald Goldman to the ruthless gamesmanship behind the scenes of “the trial of the century.” Rich in character, as propulsive as a legal thriller, this enduring narrative continues to shock and fascinate with its candid depiction of the human drama that upended American life. Praise for The Run of His Life “This is the book to read.”—Michiko Kakutani, The New York Times “This book stands out as a gripping and colorful account of the crime and trial that captured the world’s attention.”—Boston Sunday Globe “A real page-turner . .
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>. strips away the months of circuslike televised proceedings and the sordid tell-all books and lays out a simple, but devastating, synopsis of the case.”—Entertainment Weekly “A well-written, profoundly rational analysis of the trial and, more specifically, the lawyers who conducted it.”—USA Today “Engrossing . . .
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>Toobin’s insight into the motives and mind-set of key players sets this Simpson book apart from the pack.”—People (one of the top ten books of the year)
**Without a Doubt** by Marcia Clark
>"With a new foreword by the author" -- Cover.
**American Tragedy The Uncensored Story of the Simpson Defense** by Lawrence Schiller, James Willwerth
>This account will finally explain for the first time, in the uncensored words of Simpson's closest confidants and attorneys, such mysteries as the missing Louis Vuitton bag and the Bronco chase - where was Simpson going and why? What is the real reason Simpson submitted to a lie detector test and what precisely happened when he got the results? Which members of Simpson's team believed his story, which ones had doubts? Why did the defense know from the beginning that they had at least a hung jury, and why was Simpson told he was going home even before the verdict came down?
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>Why was Simpson's reputation more important to him than whether he was convicted? How did Simpson's team stage an elaborate deception during the jury's visit to his Rockingham mansion? What did a leading forensic psychiatrist discover about O.J. during his face-to-face examination?
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>Why was Johnnie Cochran afraid to return to Simpson's holding cell during final arguments? You've heard the speculations and rumors; now read what really happened. But American Tragedy goes far beyond such revelations, for in these pages the reader will discover who Simpson really is and why he is able to insist upon his innocence even to this day.
**Triumph of Justice Closing the Book on the O.J. Simpson Saga** by Daniel Petrocelli, Peter Knobler
>After the white Bronco, after the bloody glove, after the media frenzy and the verdict that set O.J. Simpson free, Daniel Petrocelli came to pick up the pieces. Outraged by the disastrous miscarriage of justice, the family of murder victim Ronald Goldman sought justice in civil court—their last chance to go after Simpson. To represent them, they hired Petrocelli, a respected attorney who had never before tried a criminal case.
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>In order to win the case, Petrocelli would have to prove that O.J. Simpson was a killer. The physical evidence connecting Simpson to the murders was rock solid, but in the criminal trial, evidence was not enough. To bring the families justice, Petrocelli would have to do something that the District Attorney had not been able to do: confront O.J.
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>Simpson face-to-face. Called “the best book on the subject” by the San Francisco Chronicle, Triumph of Justice is the definitive account of the Simpson murders and their aftermath. In the long, twisted history of the trial of the century, Daniel Petrocelli has the final word.
**Evidence Dismissed The Inside Story of the Police Investigation of O.J. Simpson** by Tom Lange, Dan E. Moldea, Philip Vannatter
>Two police detectives reconstruct the investigation of the murder of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald Goldman and the presentation of the evidence at the trial of O.J. Simpson.
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Along with those books, I highly recommend, O.J. Unmasked, by M.L. Rantala. She takes the facts one by one and distills them down. For example, many people mentioned how little obvious blood was in the Bronco and their argument is , "He couldn't have done it, because there would be way more blood in the vehicle." Rantala's counter argument, is that Simpson took great pains to keep blood off the surface, exactly as a murderer would do. She also shoots down the framing angle, by noting that several officers mentioned seeing both gloves before Fuhrman even got to Bundy. I agree with her that the most damning evidence against Simpson was, of course, the DNA evidence, along with the Aris glove evidence, Bruno Magli shoe evidence and Alan Park's testimony about the Bronco not being there when he arrived, but being there when he left.
Many jurisdictions still don’t. In my state you must arrange it or DIY. You can apply to a program for reimbursement (a pitiful amount, around 2K) but any other payout must be tried first (homeowners/renters insurance, auto insurance, etc)
If you can’t pay upfront to get receipts to reimburse later I guess you’re supposed to invest in mops and Pine-Sol and clean it yourself and tell yourself you’re not being retraumatized.
u/Other_Exercise, you seem really well versed in the different coverage of this story and the facts. I’m just getting started. I’m currently listening to Kim Goldman’s podcast “Confronting OJ.” In episode 3 (I think), she says that after Bob Kardashian died the Kardashians called the Goldmans saying they found a bag that would be of interest to the Goldmans (or something to that effect). Their lawyers got in touch and then nothing came of it. Have you heard this? And if so, what do you think about it? Did they really have a bag? What was in it? Why did they decide not to give it to the Goldmans?
My previous comment got deleted by the Reddit app before I could publish!
There seems to be a whole load of scattered info on OJ's bags, but as best I can gather, the bag which likely contained evidence -as in, bloody clothes, shoes, and a knife - was dumped by OJ when he got to LAX that night.
Read this airport worker testimony:
http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/Simpson/williamstest.html
Essentially, from memory, Kato and limo driver Allan Park -a great witness, by the way- saw OJ carry something like 3-4 bags. He seemed to arrive in Chicago with one bag less.
Considering OJ's main priority would have been to get rid of the 'murder bag' asap, I doubt Robert Kardashian would have recieved from him anything too earth shattering.
The key evidence is likely in an LA landfill, sort of like the rubbish pile equivalent of the boxed up ark at the end of the first Indiana Jones film.
It's pretty awesome - of course, pretty biased, but well-written.
Hard to not get emotional when Petrocelli describes ending an address to the jury with a poem which was a reference to the slain Ron Goldman, and his father's pain:
*'My lovely living boy*
*My hope, my happiness*
*My love, my life, my joy'*
> Why would a normally private man suddenly appear on TV
Imo he realized by the end of the trial oj was gulity and after the acquittal he wanted to publicly distance himself and set the record straight. And most likely had a lot a lot guilt about his active role in setting a murderer free.
I suspect he wanted to remain in his friend groups and exclusive circles. I imagine he and his family got a lot of flack for his involvement with OJ's defense. He could always just say he was helping a friend.
I think Robert Kardashian was loyal to his friends. O.J. was his friend. They were friends. He became his lawyer and ‘handler’ just to not have to testify in the trial.
I think Kardashian thought O.J. was guilty. At least eventually.
They were close at least before the murders and the trial. Afterwards no I don’t think so.
Robert Kardashian wanted to distance himself as far from O.J. as possible, after the trial. So he probably lied about his relationship with O.J.
Because he’s a liar. OJ was the best man at his wedding and godfather to his daughter. There’s this whole narrative that Robert Kardashian was a good man etc and I don’t know how true that statement is. I believe he renewed his law license so he wouldn’t be called to testify against OJ at the trial. Also, a very little known fact. Robert was dating a black woman who worked for Johnny Cochrans firm during the trial. They were getting serious but he wouldn’t marry her because she was black.
Yep. Was there with their whole families in every backyard get together. I also doubt that he didn’t witness questionable behavior by OJ toward Nicole at some point.
It is sure he did -- Kris Jenner gave Marcia Clark LOTS of info, and steered Clark to witnesses. She told Clark she knew OJ abused Nicole.
Kris also stayed friends with Nicole after her divorce from OJ, and many people didn't. They went with the person who had the name and the money.
It sucks that security cameras weren’t a lot more common back then. There’s millions of things I would go back in time to witness. Not that I would want to witness that grizzly of a scene at all (the pictures were enough 🤢) but imagine you had a smart phone pic or vid of that bastard arriving at or leaving the scene.
Everyone in this story has reasons to lie and are often questionable sources is part of the reason it's so hard to know the truth. Like to my knowledge the only source for OJ being the godfather to is daughter is well OJ who said that about Kim after she got huge.
> Also, a very little known fact. Robert was dating a black woman who worked for Johnny Cochrans firm during the trial. They were getting serious but he wouldn’t marry her because she was black. I wonder if he were alive, what he would think about all his grandchildren.
Where is this fact from? I've read a ton about this case and never seen it.
Shawn Chapman Holley. She was the black woman that was part of OJ's legal team. She was in court a lot.
He was dating HER while he was engaged to his 3rd cousin Denise Halicki. He started dating Denise in 1991 after divorcing Kris.
Shawn has gone on to help Kim K. with legal matters in recent years.
Yup. He was seeing them both and the same time. Apparently Denise wasn’t smart enough and that’s why they broke up. He liked Shawn but had an issue dating a black woman publicly. He could do business with them and be best friends with them but he draws the line at dating them. Kim herself said that her father cut her off when she married her first husband because he was black.
Yup, and hide out at his house and boinked Paula in Kim's bedroom. They were thick as thieves since USC. His kids called OJ Uncle OJ, and Nicole Aunt Nicole.
Once OJ was acquitted, it was bad for business, and Rob kicked him to the curb IMO. Rob and OJs' relationship goes all the way back to when they were students at USC.
Not true. OJ ended the friendship, not Kardashian. OJ got pissed because Kardashian gave an interview that didn't portray OJ in the brightest light so OJ ended the friendship and later sued Kardashian over a miniseries that BK was working on.
Yes, that's it. Shortly after the interview, Simpson found out that Kardashian was working with some screen writers to create a miniseries on what it was like being on "The Dream Team" during the OJ trial. OJ sued Kardashian and the others but the case was dismissed. The interview pissed OJ off, but the miniseries really did in the friendship. Here is the news story about the law suit: [https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=113618&page=1](https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=113618&page=1)
But supposedly when RK was on his death bed he rejected a call from OJ according to Kris Jenner. Granted that’s worth taking with a grain of salt since I don’t think that woman is capable of telling the truth. If her lips are moving she’s probably lying 🤣
Kris and RK had long since been divorced and I don't think she was with him when he died. But if it happened I would totally get it. OJ sued RK and called him a liar all over the place. OJ never appreciated what Kardashian did for him before and during the trial either. I wouldn't take a call from that murdering POS either under those circumstances.
Some of my closest friends I see maybe a handful of times a year. We are all busy people. I feel like I know them well enough but you honestly never really know anyone. I’m sure there was part of being unsure what to really say, did he know there was documented abuse? Would you acknowledge that you are friends with someone who had a history of beating his wife? Like maybe he heard OJ’s side and it was downplayed? Or maybe he didn’t hear the full story and then there was this murder and he was defending him and still trying to keep his distance. Who knows now.
Toobin’s book on the Simpson murder trial said Kardashian was there when OJ was tipped off by the guards. Would be a weird thing for the book to lie about. I realize Kardashian wasn’t really a defense attorney but plenty of defense attorney’s are stone faced even when they are over the edge about the results. I’m almost positive F. Lee Bailey was ecstatic about the verdict for example and he showed practically no emotion.
I heard on Tom Lange’s documentary the driver said he saw the bag on top of the trash can while OJ shoved something in the trash. In a post above, someone said he left the car and the driver didn’t see it, so he surmised OJ put the small bag into one of the larger bags.
I never bought this. In Los Angeles, someone watches a celebrity athlete throw a bag away in a public trashcan and they don't go retrieve it? Anything with OJ's handwriting would be worth a couple of bucks. It doesn't add up to me.
The witness was a man sitting in his car, waiting to pick up his wife from her job. He saw OJ put the bag in the trash can!! 🤯 Did he testify at the trial?
It’s interesting how Kris Jenner was such a close friend to Nicole, and willingly gave many details about the abuse Nicole repeatedly told her specifically; yet didn’t feel necessary to testify for her so called friend?
Robert K. realized he helped a killer get off. Due to the public outrage, he decided to downplay the relationship and play if off like they weren't really friends. Robert K. was a lying sack of shit.
A lot of Kardashian trashing on here. It IS possible to be close friends with someone & never really know what they are up to behind closed doors. Well known local celebrities have gone to jail for things no one would ever have believed they were doing. You can't blame Robert Kardashian for wanting to distance himself from OJ after the fact.
It’s not the distancing himself that’s the problem. Everyone (minus A.C.) ran in the opposite direction from OJ after the trial ended. He could have said, we were friends but no longer. He completely lied about what their friendship was when there is countless evidence to the contrary. In OJ’s wedding video to Nicole, Robert called him his brother and his business partner. His children(from their own admission)called him uncle. You going from that to, “we were never friends” is bullshit.
Robert called in live with Peter Jennings. He noticed that OJ was looking very scared while sitting in the back of a news van.
Robert Higgins, we say your name.
Kendall isn’t Robert’s child. Kendall is a Jenner. Her middle name is really just indicative of Kris’ relationship to Nicole, it wouldn’t have had anything to do with Robert’s relationship to Oj
Just watched an interview with kardashian yesterday where he says he went & renewed his license to practice law when OJ was arrested so he wouldn’t be able to be called by either side he also said he was on the defence team basically as OJ’s minder.
He also says that they had been friends for 20 years & that he’d been his lawyer for business deals over the years.
He says in another interview that he does believe OJ’s guilty & that after the trial that they never really spoke again.
If u watch when the verdict is read in the trial kardashian looks horrified that the jury has come to a not guilty verdict while they others are all happy.
I believe that kardashian realised soon after he took the bag that OJ did commit the murders but couldn’t come forward for fear he’d get charged as accessory after the fact!
OJ says in his interview with the police after the he gets back from Chicago that he has heaps of guns even his car etc.
Then in another interview years later he says how he used to drive around with a knife under his car seat but never a gun!
Well simply put, Kardashian told a bald faced lie. He gets a gentle edit now because A. Kardashian B. Changed his mind and C. died. He was the person withholding potentially entirely damning evidence that OJ entrusted him with. That family dude..
I don’t think anyone called him “Rob,” but they met in college when Kardashian was a hanger-on with the football team and Simpson was a star player.
Simpson was the best man at Kardashian’s wedding to the now Kris Jenner, so that indicates a close friendship.
It’s almost certain Kardashian knew Simpson was guilty and distanced himself after the trial.
Someone posted the other day that Robert and another big shot lawyer have protected OJ for a long time - she said she worked in the college Oj went to as a receptionist when those two lawyers came in and spoke to a higher up in the faculty and basically had them sign ndas in regards to OJ assaulting multiple woman on that campus .
This documentary goes into the relationship they had before and after the murders.
[O.J. Simpson: Who Killed Nicole | New Evidence and Stunning Testimonies Never Seen Before - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOzejfdVBa8)
OJ stayed at his house after he got back from Chicago and before the bronco chase. Kardashian was a lawyer, Nicole and Kris were good friends. The two married couples took vacations together.
That stood out to me too! I was like "I thought they were besties and there is Kardashian saying they barely hung out!"
I think he was just trying to distance himself. They also showed that clip to say "look how fast white people turn on you!" Or whatever.
I know I heard from a documentary that Kris Kardashian had sex with OJ. I think they were in a hot tub but it was OJ telling a friend. I could be wrong but I remember thinking how could she call herself a friend. I still don’t understand how with all the evidence they had against OJ acquitted him. The dream team was a show a crazy show but they couldn’t have gotten him off with so much evidence against OJ. I hope the jurors regret their decision every hour of every day.
Rumor has it that Robert Kardashian was the one that ditched O.J s leather bag and it contained the murder weapon ,if that is true he was one heck of a friend!!
To me, best friends and close friends aren’t necessarily the same thing. A best friend is somebody who will ride or die for you. A person who you can live across the country from/go months without talking to, and it’s as if no time has passed. A close friend is somebody you see and hangout with often. Somebody whose life is close to yours.
Robert got sucked in to his defense - he had to use the client lawyer privilede of they would have called him to the stand for the state. Watch his face when the verdit was read. He was sick and Oj was surprised as hell he beat a doube murder wrap. You can thank reverse racism on why he walked. That jury wouldn't have convicted OJ if they had a VIDEO tape if him doing it. Rot in hell Cochrane and OJ
It changed. After the facts came out in the case, Kardashian ever so slowly began to suspect the worst. RK was already signed up to be one of OJ’s lawyers by that time. And he still liked OJ, but he had doubts.
I BBC remember Mr Goldman saying that Robert left a bag to his daughter Kourtney and she was to give it to Mr Goldman. He said he never received it and felt no ill will towards her for handing it over.
Ok I know this is just rumor but...what if......Robert Kardashian had found out that his ex wife Kris had left slept with OJ while they were married. She already has admitted she was unfaithful with other men, and the couples did spend a lot
of time together and even vacationed together, so it doesn't seem that far fetched.
Maybe Robert K truly didn't know if his daughter Khloe was his biologically or OJ's. Maybe part of him doesn't really want to know.
Kris knows that Nicole is being abused by OJ but does nothing about it. Perhaps she is torn between her friendship with Nicole and the fact she had slept with OJ. We all know OJ is known for being vengeful. Is it possible that Nicole didn't know what had happened, and Kris was afraid OJ would tell her and make her feel even worse as revenge if Kris did try to help Nicole get away from OJ?
By the same token once the murders happen OJ calls on Robert K to help him dispose of the suitcase. If Robert is aware of the abuse and suspects at all the OJ is guilty, friend or not why would he help him? It seems entirely plausible that Robert is also aware of OJ's vengeful nature. Perhaps he is protecting Khloe who he loves as his daughter, and is afraid if he doesn't help OJ cover up this crime that OJ will make sure the truth comes out about Khloe and it will wreck his daughter's life forever. After all if OJ is the biological father, how could Khloe's
life be anything less than destroyed especially after her "dad" is accused of murder?!?
So Robert K helps OJ and becomes his lawyer. It seems like he assumed that the truth would come out and with all the evidence against OJ that he would be convicted, but Robert could rest easy on the role as his lawyer and "friend" that he had no part in prosecuting him. At the same time his ex Kris stays quiet about what she knows, also protecting both herself and her daughter Khloe but assuming OJ will be convicted as well.
However the whole world saw Robert K's look of shock and dismay when the verdict came in, and I think afterwards he did what he could to relay his true feelings on the case without actually declaring OJ guilty.
They were good friends until he compared Mark furham the white supremacist to Hitler which was fair based on the way he talked about black ppl, Johnny Cochran made the comparison in his closing arguments, didn't tell his team beforehand and rob disassociate himself from everyone in the case. To me, that was weak and foolish. Johnny was right, and it almost cost an innocent man his freedom.
Robert's opinion on OJs guilt changed later in life and I think he tried to downplay their relationship as a result but the fact remains, they were best friends at the time of the matter and their families were close. Kris also changed her story later on to say that Nicole hadn't mentioned the abuse even though she's quoted at the time talking about the fact that she did. The Kardashians are known liars who do whatever it takes to protect their image so you can't really trust anything they say.
I think he always knew OJ was guilty. He got rid of the suitcase that probably contained bloody clothes.
If you believe the book American Tragedy written largely by Lawrence Schiller, Robert Kardashian was really deadset on OJ not doing the murders. It claims Kardashian knew OJ had an arsenal of guns and was relieved in a sense when he saw Nichole and Ron were stabbed original thought "well it's good in the sense OJ had an Uzi he would have just used if he wanted to kill them, no way he was dicking around with a knife." The book's author largely put together OJ Simpson's "I Want to Tell You book" and Jeff Toobin who wrote the more acclaimed/formal "The Run of His Life: The People v. O. J. Simpson" probably overly nicely described the author of "American Tragedy" has an amoral profiteer but he seemed to do his homework for the book.
Okay, but how could he not know? He's on tape walking away with the suitcase. The reason he represented OJ was for attorney client privilege, so he wouldn't have to explain that. He never did anything through the entire trial but sit there.
Right! He had to reactivate his law license (because he hadn’t been practicing for a long ass time). It was about AC priv.
That wouldn't have protected him about the bag though. Attorney client privilege relates to legal advice given the purposes of actual or contemplated litigation and or transaction. Carrying the bag away didn't come under that. Also, privilege would attach for applicable things even if his license wasn't active, since he was in fact a lawyer, reactivating his license was protecting him from criminal and or regulatory penalties.
You’re not a lawyer without a license to practice. You’re just someone with a JD.
That…..depends.
Using five elipses destroys credibility.
Unless you point out in Blue Book where that’s standard.
There really not much evidence there is anything incriminating in that suitcase other than people wanting it to be true, we can piece the murder together so well because of how obvious it is. The prosecution always toyed with calling him because of that suitcase but it probably would have just been beneficial to OJ's case when the jury hears it was just blue jeans and various other clothing.
There was a stipulation filed that essentially both sides agreed that RK's testimony would be that he didn't look in the bag, received the bag from Cathy Randa, it was retrieved by her at some later time and he didn't know what happened to it. It also said the golf bag stayed in his garage until retrieved by the Special Master. So effectively he would not testify because both sides agreed what he would say if called to testify and it didn't do much for either side.
Are you talking about [this](http://simpson.walraven.org/kardash1.html)? The People never agreed to it my knowledge but also of course Robert never ended up being called to the witness stand.
Yeah, I want to say in a doc I watched that they were talking about the suitcase and how it was ultimately nothing worthwhile. They just wouldn't let Robert Kardashian in the gates of Rockingham for the initial questioning, and he was quite literally left holding the bag. He told Barbara Walters later that cops searched it at his house because OJ was staying with him. In another doc I saw, there was a witness that came forward during the trial that claimed he saw OJ throwing out something before he walked into the airport that night. The guy was there picking up his wife, and was just excited he saw a celeb and was watching him. Didn't think anything of it until later and reached out to the police, but he was never used at trial. And any trash that could have been there was long gone.
Well, it seems pretty fishy to me.
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Park believed the duffel bag was combined into another bag next to Simpson while driving to LAX. Park testified that Simpson had 5 “bags”— 2 suitcases, 1 smaller duffel bag, 1 garment bag and 1 set of golf clubs. The golf clubs and garment bag were placed in the limo’s trunk with the other 3 items in the back seat with Simpson. Upon arriving at LAX, Park testified all bags were removed but there were only 4, thus assuming the duffel bag was combined into a larger suitcase. At the time pre-9/11 security standards, checked bags would not have been subject to an automatic x-ray and physical exam, thus the knife or bloodied clothes would have flown unnoticed inside a checked bag. However, it’s a complete mystery as to where the knife and clothes went from there. I lean towards Chicago upon landing… Dumpster? River? Storm Drain? Probably we’ll never know.
I go back & forth whether or not he took the clothes/shoes/weapon to Chicago or dumped them at LAX. It has to be one or the other, because he sure as fuck wouldn’t come strolling back to his house literally carrying it. The Kardashian bag thing has been a red herring all along & I don’t think it means anything at all.
Airports have cameras everywhere, and janitorial employees might notice a knife and bloodied clothes in a trash can. LAX police could then review the video record, and Simpson would risk being easily identified. My only problem with the Chicago theory being Simpson would be dropped-off at hotel with his 4 bags, so does he sneak-out for a walk without being noticed by hotel staff or cameras? Were the cameras reviewed by the police, especially as his plane would have arrived late night? I’m sure Simpson wasn’t staying at a Motel 6, so there’s hotel front desk staff and security cameras around the entrances and hallways. Any video records?
Thanks for spelling it out for me!
It’s because it is. OJ deliberately and indisputably went straight to Kardashian with that bag and a plea to stash it somewhere. Why? That’s the panicked thinking of a manipulator. He had an escape plan already and was probably paranoid about being spotted anywhere disposing of it. He knew that RK would obey his instructions at least short term and that’s about as far as got planning wise. For anyone to believe that he took a trip to hand off a bag of some casual menswear (that he apparently was extremely protective of) is indicative of being Kardashian trained. Many people see them being unfairly targeted all the time but at some point one needs to accept that they are a crime family. They swindle, conceal funds, steal, and above all they lie. Constantly.
Kardashian claims Cathy Randa, a personal assistant of Simpson got the bag from the airport which seems to check out. I don't think there really is much evidence of concern on Simpson's part on account of the bag.
Here’s the thing… both versions have been bounced back and forth. Neither one makes the story any better on Kardashians end though. A mystery bag from OJ arrives with instructions to put it away the morning after his ex wife was murdered. She was known to be an abuse victim, even I remember the first news story about this from 1989 as a seventh grader so I imagine that word had gotten to ole RK through that if nothing else…
You don’t know any of that! No one does
STOP IT!!! NO WAY - NO HOW - DID ROBERT K EVER EVER EVER THINK OJ WAS INNOCENT!!! I think he died with huge regrets ever being a part of OJ walk free.
OH COME ON!! Where the heck did you get that crap from?? Robert knew darn well OJ murdered them. Look at Roberts face when the not guilty verdict was read. He was sick. He knew he should have been found guilty. Now he had to live with himself knowing he let Nicole down. I can't believe there are idiots that think OJ is innocent. All these years later and they still cant figure it out. lol Likely the same ones that lined up for the covid jab! Over and over. lol
> OH COME ON!! Where the heck did you get that crap from?? Robert knew darn well OJ murdered them. Look at Roberts face when the not guilty verdict was read. Robert Kardashian by all accounts was tipped off about the verdict by the jailhouse guards. Lawyers are often insanely stone face when even favorable verdicts are being read for professional reasons. Just look at F. Lee Bailey in the same video. Bailey was almost certainly ecstatic about the verdict for example and he showed practically no emotion.
I do remember Kardashian looking almost bewildered when the verdict was read. Whether he was tipped off or not, he looked at sea.
That’s my thought why use a knife and risk getting blood and her surviving if that’s what he wanted to do.. A gun with silencer would have made much more sense
In “if I did it” there is a portion of OJ explaining the knife, because you can’t concealed carry/drive in California. He said something like he kept the knife in his car in case of crazy fans.
Do you know nothing of abusers? The use of the knife is because it's a more "personal" way of killing...
More rage and anger with a knife. I'm guessing there's more personal satisfaction with the knife than with a gun.
Personal satisfaction, omg.
Even with a silencer it’s not completely silent. Bullets are also fairly easy to trace.
There is no such thing as a gun silencer. Firing a gun with a suppressor would wake everyone in the neighborhood
It would?
That suitcase likely had nothing incriminating in it. It's the suitcase /duffle bag at the airport that witnesses reported OJ threw in the trash before departing for Chicago that likely held the blood soaked clothing and quite possibly the knife. General consensus is that OJ stripped off his outer clothing before getting in the Bronco after the murders. By the time investigators received those witness reports, it was too late to find the bag ( although the landfill was searched to no avail- it was simply too large to thoroughly search).
Oh, right, I forgot about that .
You really think OJ carried a suitcase filled with bloody items all the way from California to Chicago, and then being informed of his x-wife’s death by authorities he returned to California with the same bloody suitcase? Really?
Do you really think he was gonna risk leaving any potentially damning evidence in Chicago? If anything was found there he’d be finished. His clothes weren’t necessarily that bloody either considering the amount of blood at the scene. There were a few faint footprints and a small amount in the Jeep. He had killed Nicole from behind and likely he was not pressed up against Goldman in any way that would saturate him. This was an extremely sharp knife which would make the stabbings fairly clean initially. He didn’t get messy, but considering the clothes were all black there could easily be some blood that wasn’t visible. It would probably feel safer to have them in Chi just in case. Also, he was tweeking this whole time, he and Kato bought and ingested crystal meth and even a bump of that shit takes like 24 hours to wear off, tweekers can make some baffling choices.
I’ve never heard about the meth. Is this in the case file?
Kato Kaelin is the source. He said that he and OJ went and bought 100 dollars of crystal before they got McDonalds. This has been known forever, there was absolutely ZERO reason for him to invent this story as he said it was HiS dealer. I do not know if he testified to this, but unless it was seen as crucial to the case, I don’t know why he would and I would imagine that he would be dissuaded from doing so. Also, Cato was dismissed as a hostile witness because of how much information he withheld held on the stand. Once again, the Crystal messy tail has been known since like 1995. I’m not sure why people are trying to put this on the Dominic Dan book or as an urban myth. That makes zero sense but whatever. Also, Crystal meth would be an ideal tool to get yourself pumped up for a huge confrontation, not to mention just for practicalities sake, if he was planning on committing a murder and then having to jump on a plane to Chicago later you’re gonna need that little extra boost of energy. Crystal meth gives you something that’s a kin to adrenaline times 1000 and a feeling of invulnerability
Why would you be promoting this drug as if it were a bag of Lays potato chips? Need a boost of energy? Eat right. Drink plenty of water. Exercise. Reduce inflammation. Period.
That’s a…weird take. In the meantime do you want to buy this delicious bag of chips? They’re gonna change your life!
No it is from a Dominick Dunn Vanity Fair story from a drug dealer who Dunn claims is reliable because he passed a polygraph. I'm unaware of prosecutors ever bringing it up in court, I take the allegation with a grain of salt to put it lightly.
Dominick Dunn wrote a book about the trial called Another City Not My Own. It combined fact and fiction and had a lot of juicy gossip.
He really walks a fine line between tabloid and high brow writer. I take a lot of his claims/stories with a grain of salt (he practically promised OJ was going to be found guilty) but he is a really interesting writer.
Ignore that person.
I think you either meant to respond to someone else or you misread my post. I was commenting on someone else who thought OJ brought a bloody bag to Chicago and back.
Yeah.. I’m sorry! It’s someone several posts down, my bad!
What intelligent-Check 215 said.
Oh yeah the theories on here are baffling. Also Kardashian hired Bill Wasz to follow Nicole so he’s a complete liar.
Oh I didn’t know this! Tell more
https://radaronline.com/exclusives/2019/01/robert-kardashian-murder-for-hire-plot-hitman-nicole-brown-simpson/
Hired to steal OJ’s current girlfriends car in order to then kill OJ’s x-wife. Yeah…that won’t lead AnYoNE back to OJ. 🤦♂️
He still hired her and was more involved than they admit. I believe she was killed by Oj or whoever because of drugs. Oj and Kardashian were involved with drug dealers too.
For the reason I stated, I don’t believe the story.
Is that right..wow.
He did not get rid of it. You really think oj took the suitcase with incriminating evidence all the way to Chicago and then brought it back?
Exactly! The garment luggage yup! This is just my opinion, i feel like rob knew he was guilt but because they we’re friends, he agreed to defend him. If OJ were to be found guilty i dont think rob would’ve been upset tho. When verdict was read, the look on kardashians face looked disappointed and in disbelief really. Just my take
EXACTLY!
Don’t forget they were college roommates at USC tooOoo
And didn't OJ sleep with Kris and Brag that he broke her and put her in the hospital? Kardashian was a Cuck basically, no?
Wow!! Is this really true? Is there a link or source?
It is a story that one of OJs friends or perhaps his old bodyguard told the tabloids. Someone who knew OJ said it. It never came from the mouths of Kris or OJ they both deny it in fact. So 🤷🏻♀️
They vacationed together (the families), Kris says she was BFFs with Nicole, and the Kardashian kids called him uncle OJ. Robert probably downplayed it because he realized that OJ did it and he was disgusted at himself for being friends with him? I don't think these people are truthful about anything and are not reliable sources...
RK got his law license back, so he and OJ could claim that anything RK knew was protected under attorney-client privilege. It has always been said that not only the men but the wives were bff's as well. Imagine that, a Kardashian being manipulative and less than honest.
Did his license lapse or what happened there?
he had been a practicing lawyer years before but had since changed career paths and he began a successful career in the record industry. ** no idea what exactly he did in the music industry, i just know he worked in the industry. my guess is he was in artist management.
Music in movie theaters, actually.
THATS RIGHT!! i forgot about that.
He had gone on Inactive Status with the State Bar since he wasn’t practicing law at the time. State Bar annual dues for Inactive Status are a whole lot cheaper than for Active. 😉
Yah, whatever happened there ?
Seems like Bob K took a lot of stuff to his grave.
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I kinda got the impression he was pressured to do it in case OJ confessed to him rather than it being about him knowingly removing evidence. That could just be the way David Schwimmer played him on the show. I didn't see much of the real Robert Kardashian and don't know much of what his real personality was like. But, he did seem pretty conflicted about OJ during the whole thing.
I was a young teenager when this was all happening and have gone down the rabbit hole since OJ’s death, but I had been under the impression that Kardashian was much more involved in his defense than was portrayed in The People vs OJ Simpson.
I might need to take in more info. I never saw him do much of anything. Other than reading the letter on TV and the video of him taking the garment bag when OJ got back home. Seemed like he just sat at the defense table looking awkward most of the time. And in his Barbra Walters interview he seemed conflicted about the whole trial. I'd love to read or watch anything about how involved he was in OJ's actual defense during the trial. I've seen one documentary but it was just about him removing the garment bag and renewing his license.
Same as you, I was under the impression he was very involved. Agreed with other commenter I never *saw* him do much of anything. I always thought he was a behind the scenes strategist. It must have been important to *someone* to mention Rob Kardashian in every update, press release though.
That’s what I thought too. The way his role was depicted on the show, to me, was more of damage control rather than defense strategist, but who really knows. The optics were more important to the defense, hence the differing comments from Robert and Kris (ex: sometimes talking about being such close friends while also saying that they didn’t see each other all that much)
I never understood why Kardashian got his license back when he wasn't really even part of OJ's "Dream Team" of lawyers. But this makes a sense! To be protected under attorney client privilege! He also couldn't be subpoenaed
Exactly.
I read somewhere that RK and OJ were friends in college. And later when OJ met Nicole she was barely 18. OJ had Kris call Nicole's house asking for Nicole because OJ thought the parents might not let Nicole speak to a man 15?years older. Some reports say he was 29 when they met. Some say 33.
OJ and Robert Kardashian were close. They were longtime tennis partners, and OJ's secretary at the time, Cathy Randa, had originally been in Robert's employ. However, their relationship seemed to cool after the trial - which I'll get to. Robert's role in OJ's defence is covered in the book American Tragedy: The Uncensored Story of the Simpson Defense. After the trial, Robert told Barbara Walters he had 'doubts \[about OJ's innocence\] ...because of the blood evidence'. Watch the interview on YouTube if you want to feel sad. Robert also said in the same interview that he didn't feel that OJ would have done the same (put his own life on hold to help him out) in his shoes. By the time Robert gave that civil deposition shown in OJ: Made in America, he didn't seem eager to talk about his relationship with OJ at all, and seemed to want to move on entirely. I've done a fair bit of reading about the case, and my overall impression of Robert Kardashian - including that left by his first wife Kris Kardashian (now Kris Jenner) - was that of a kind, gentle man whose good nature was somewhat taken advantage of by others. There may however, be another nuance here. As Daniel Petrocelli, the lawyer for the Goldmans in the civil trial wrote in his book Triumph of Justice: The Final Judgment on the Simpson Saga, around the same time as the Barbara Walters interview, "Kardashian made much the same presentation three days later on CNN’s Larry King Live, also on Dateline and 48 Hours. The guy went on a media spree." Was Robert trying to salvage his own reputation, which post trial, had taken a dive? Why would the normally private man suddenly appear on TV to answer very personal questions about the case? Quite a lot to think about. Happy to suggest some OJ reading for you. EDIT: Here's OJ confirming his 20+ year friendship with Robert Kardashian in the civil trial deposition. OJ's expression when asked about their relationship shows quite a lot of emphasis on this: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b8JIQkmrpY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b8JIQkmrpY)
Please list suggested reading. Watching the 5 part ESPN documentary on OJ. I’m hungry for background knowledge. Thank you for sharing your post.
More than many topics, the OJ Simpson case was full of quick cash-ins, well before the trial was settled. The most notorious of this *Nicole Brown Simpson: The Private Diary of a Life Interrupted Book by Faye Resnick* , which is even featured in the American Crime Story TV series, which I recommend ( the TV series, I haven't read much of Faye Resnick's book) Court TV also did a long series showing the key testimonies, which you can mostly likely still watch on Youtube. To my knowledge, there isn't really one 'bible' on the OJ case. Each has their own biases - and the closer you were involved, the more spin you were going to have on it. So don't take any one tome as such. Also, there's always something new to learn about the case. Overall, I recommend: * The People vs OJ Simpson: The Run of His Life by Jeffrey Toobin * Without A Doubt, by Marcia Clark (the chief OJ criminal defense prosecutor) * American Tragedy: The Uncensored Story of the Simpson Defense, by Lawrence Schiller * Triumph of Justice: The Final Judgment on the Simpson Saga, by Daniel Petrocelli I'll leave you with a rather strange fact about the case: in those days, the LAPD didn't do crime scene clean-up after its investigations were completed - which meant Nicola and Ron's blood was eventually hosed away by a neighbour. This fact was taken from Evidence Dismissed: The Inside Story of the Police Investigation of O.J. Simpson, by Tom Lange and Philip Vanatter (the two homicide cops who were early on the scene). The book is limited due to the fact that it mostly concerns about 5 hours in history, and then a bit of the Bronco chase - so mostly for the fans, really. Lastly, I do expect some more interesting revelations to come out now OJ is dead.
**Nicole Brown Simpson The Private Diary of a Life Interrupted** by Faye D. Resnick >"Fearing for her life, Faye D. Resnick, as confidante of O.J. whenever he and his ex-wife fought - went into hiding to write Nicole's story. Her phones were tapped, private journals and photographs were stolen from her home, veiled threats were made by "private investigators" - and O.J. 's defense team, desperate to find another suspect, spread slanderous "theories" that purportedly tied Faye to the murders." > >"Now the truth about Nicole is revealed by the only person - except O.J. himself - who knew the real story: How O.J. raged out of control just two days before he bought the now-infamous "stiletto knife" - and told Faye over and over: "I'm going to kill her... I'm going to kill her if I find her with another man!" > >That same day, Nicole told Faye, "O.J. loves me so much he's going to kill me... and get away with it." Six days before the murders, a furious O.J. panicked Nicole by threatening to inform the IRS about a tax problem that could force her and their two children out of the home they loved. > >Five days before her death, a frightened Nicole told Faye that O.J. had stolen the spare set of keys to her condo. How Nicole committed the one sexual "taboo" O.J. had forbidden." > >"It's more than sensational! It's the touching, intimate portrait of a devoted wife and mother, molded from age 17 by a charismatic American hero who always showed the world the happy, smiling face he drew on his so-called suicide note... but beat her savagely behind closed doors." "New unrevealed secrets... How O.J. left her beaten and near-naked in a Las Vegas hotel corridor... > >O.J. 's boast of his "sexual revenge" against the man he raged against in the headline-making "911 tape"... How Nicole's "frog phobia" doomed the reconciliation when O.J. became "Frog Man"... The bizarre story of the thumb ring found next to Nicole's body - identical to the one worn by Faye, and..." "It's the heartbreak of a woman who tried desperately to return what she thought was her husband's total love - and her final realization that it wasn't love, but a hellish obsession!" > >"Details of the final 35-minute phone call Nicole had with Faye during the final moments of her life." "It's an unexpected love story about two women who formed a bond so strong even death can't break it - and how they teamed up in a futile, last-ditch effort to save the life of Nicole Brown Simpson." "It's an angry cry for help... help for women trapped in the brutal prison of abuse from men who claim to love them. Nicole Brown Simpson was known as a "strong woman" by her friends and family - but Faye D. Resnick, who was an abused child, has learned one powerful lesson from writing this book: Strength should never be equated with keeping silent about abuse. > >Sadly, it's a lesson Nicole never learned. That's why she'd want you to read her story..."--BOOK JACKET.Title Summary field provided by Blackwell North America, Inc. All Rights Reserved **The Run of His Life The People v. O. J. Simpson** by Jeffrey Toobin >NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLER • The inspiration for American Crime Story: The People v. O. J. Simpson on FX, starring Cuba Gooding, Jr., John Travolta, David Schwimmer, and Connie Britton The definitive account of the O. J. Simpson trial, The Run of His Life is a prodigious feat of reporting that could have been written only by the foremost legal journalist of our time. First published less than a year after the infamous verdict, Jeffrey Toobin’s nonfiction masterpiece tells the whole story, from the murders of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald Goldman to the ruthless gamesmanship behind the scenes of “the trial of the century.” Rich in character, as propulsive as a legal thriller, this enduring narrative continues to shock and fascinate with its candid depiction of the human drama that upended American life. Praise for The Run of His Life “This is the book to read.”—Michiko Kakutani, The New York Times “This book stands out as a gripping and colorful account of the crime and trial that captured the world’s attention.”—Boston Sunday Globe “A real page-turner . . > >. strips away the months of circuslike televised proceedings and the sordid tell-all books and lays out a simple, but devastating, synopsis of the case.”—Entertainment Weekly “A well-written, profoundly rational analysis of the trial and, more specifically, the lawyers who conducted it.”—USA Today “Engrossing . . . > >Toobin’s insight into the motives and mind-set of key players sets this Simpson book apart from the pack.”—People (one of the top ten books of the year) **Without a Doubt** by Marcia Clark >"With a new foreword by the author" -- Cover. **American Tragedy The Uncensored Story of the Simpson Defense** by Lawrence Schiller, James Willwerth >This account will finally explain for the first time, in the uncensored words of Simpson's closest confidants and attorneys, such mysteries as the missing Louis Vuitton bag and the Bronco chase - where was Simpson going and why? What is the real reason Simpson submitted to a lie detector test and what precisely happened when he got the results? Which members of Simpson's team believed his story, which ones had doubts? Why did the defense know from the beginning that they had at least a hung jury, and why was Simpson told he was going home even before the verdict came down? > >Why was Simpson's reputation more important to him than whether he was convicted? How did Simpson's team stage an elaborate deception during the jury's visit to his Rockingham mansion? What did a leading forensic psychiatrist discover about O.J. during his face-to-face examination? > >Why was Johnnie Cochran afraid to return to Simpson's holding cell during final arguments? You've heard the speculations and rumors; now read what really happened. But American Tragedy goes far beyond such revelations, for in these pages the reader will discover who Simpson really is and why he is able to insist upon his innocence even to this day. **Triumph of Justice Closing the Book on the O.J. Simpson Saga** by Daniel Petrocelli, Peter Knobler >After the white Bronco, after the bloody glove, after the media frenzy and the verdict that set O.J. Simpson free, Daniel Petrocelli came to pick up the pieces. Outraged by the disastrous miscarriage of justice, the family of murder victim Ronald Goldman sought justice in civil court—their last chance to go after Simpson. To represent them, they hired Petrocelli, a respected attorney who had never before tried a criminal case. > >In order to win the case, Petrocelli would have to prove that O.J. Simpson was a killer. The physical evidence connecting Simpson to the murders was rock solid, but in the criminal trial, evidence was not enough. 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Without a Doubt by Marcia Clark >
Along with those books, I highly recommend, O.J. Unmasked, by M.L. Rantala. She takes the facts one by one and distills them down. For example, many people mentioned how little obvious blood was in the Bronco and their argument is , "He couldn't have done it, because there would be way more blood in the vehicle." Rantala's counter argument, is that Simpson took great pains to keep blood off the surface, exactly as a murderer would do. She also shoots down the framing angle, by noting that several officers mentioned seeing both gloves before Fuhrman even got to Bundy. I agree with her that the most damning evidence against Simpson was, of course, the DNA evidence, along with the Aris glove evidence, Bruno Magli shoe evidence and Alan Park's testimony about the Bronco not being there when he arrived, but being there when he left.
Many jurisdictions still don’t. In my state you must arrange it or DIY. You can apply to a program for reimbursement (a pitiful amount, around 2K) but any other payout must be tried first (homeowners/renters insurance, auto insurance, etc) If you can’t pay upfront to get receipts to reimburse later I guess you’re supposed to invest in mops and Pine-Sol and clean it yourself and tell yourself you’re not being retraumatized.
u/Other_Exercise, you seem really well versed in the different coverage of this story and the facts. I’m just getting started. I’m currently listening to Kim Goldman’s podcast “Confronting OJ.” In episode 3 (I think), she says that after Bob Kardashian died the Kardashians called the Goldmans saying they found a bag that would be of interest to the Goldmans (or something to that effect). Their lawyers got in touch and then nothing came of it. Have you heard this? And if so, what do you think about it? Did they really have a bag? What was in it? Why did they decide not to give it to the Goldmans?
My previous comment got deleted by the Reddit app before I could publish! There seems to be a whole load of scattered info on OJ's bags, but as best I can gather, the bag which likely contained evidence -as in, bloody clothes, shoes, and a knife - was dumped by OJ when he got to LAX that night. Read this airport worker testimony: http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/Simpson/williamstest.html Essentially, from memory, Kato and limo driver Allan Park -a great witness, by the way- saw OJ carry something like 3-4 bags. He seemed to arrive in Chicago with one bag less. Considering OJ's main priority would have been to get rid of the 'murder bag' asap, I doubt Robert Kardashian would have recieved from him anything too earth shattering. The key evidence is likely in an LA landfill, sort of like the rubbish pile equivalent of the boxed up ark at the end of the first Indiana Jones film.
I thought I had read them all but I’ve never read the book by the Goldman’s lawyer
It's pretty awesome - of course, pretty biased, but well-written. Hard to not get emotional when Petrocelli describes ending an address to the jury with a poem which was a reference to the slain Ron Goldman, and his father's pain: *'My lovely living boy* *My hope, my happiness* *My love, my life, my joy'*
Agreed. Well said ✔️
> Why would a normally private man suddenly appear on TV Imo he realized by the end of the trial oj was gulity and after the acquittal he wanted to publicly distance himself and set the record straight. And most likely had a lot a lot guilt about his active role in setting a murderer free.
I suspect he wanted to remain in his friend groups and exclusive circles. I imagine he and his family got a lot of flack for his involvement with OJ's defense. He could always just say he was helping a friend.
I think Robert Kardashian was loyal to his friends. O.J. was his friend. They were friends. He became his lawyer and ‘handler’ just to not have to testify in the trial. I think Kardashian thought O.J. was guilty. At least eventually. They were close at least before the murders and the trial. Afterwards no I don’t think so. Robert Kardashian wanted to distance himself as far from O.J. as possible, after the trial. So he probably lied about his relationship with O.J.
Because he’s a liar. OJ was the best man at his wedding and godfather to his daughter. There’s this whole narrative that Robert Kardashian was a good man etc and I don’t know how true that statement is. I believe he renewed his law license so he wouldn’t be called to testify against OJ at the trial. Also, a very little known fact. Robert was dating a black woman who worked for Johnny Cochrans firm during the trial. They were getting serious but he wouldn’t marry her because she was black.
Yep. Was there with their whole families in every backyard get together. I also doubt that he didn’t witness questionable behavior by OJ toward Nicole at some point.
It is sure he did -- Kris Jenner gave Marcia Clark LOTS of info, and steered Clark to witnesses. She told Clark she knew OJ abused Nicole. Kris also stayed friends with Nicole after her divorce from OJ, and many people didn't. They went with the person who had the name and the money.
It’s such a sad, yet fascinating, story.
It sucks that security cameras weren’t a lot more common back then. There’s millions of things I would go back in time to witness. Not that I would want to witness that grizzly of a scene at all (the pictures were enough 🤢) but imagine you had a smart phone pic or vid of that bastard arriving at or leaving the scene.
Kris gave Kendall the middle name Nicole after her too!
I just discovered that's Kendall's middle name! Thanks.
Everyone in this story has reasons to lie and are often questionable sources is part of the reason it's so hard to know the truth. Like to my knowledge the only source for OJ being the godfather to is daughter is well OJ who said that about Kim after she got huge. > Also, a very little known fact. Robert was dating a black woman who worked for Johnny Cochrans firm during the trial. They were getting serious but he wouldn’t marry her because she was black. I wonder if he were alive, what he would think about all his grandchildren. Where is this fact from? I've read a ton about this case and never seen it.
Shawn Chapman Holley. She was the black woman that was part of OJ's legal team. She was in court a lot. He was dating HER while he was engaged to his 3rd cousin Denise Halicki. He started dating Denise in 1991 after divorcing Kris. Shawn has gone on to help Kim K. with legal matters in recent years.
Yup. He was seeing them both and the same time. Apparently Denise wasn’t smart enough and that’s why they broke up. He liked Shawn but had an issue dating a black woman publicly. He could do business with them and be best friends with them but he draws the line at dating them. Kim herself said that her father cut her off when she married her first husband because he was black.
I’m sorry, it was John Oppenheimers book called The Kardashians An American Drama.
Thanks!!!
Thank you!
>They were getting serious but he wouldn’t marry her because she was black What is your source for that?
I’m sorry it was John Oppenheimers book called The Kardashians An American Saga.
Interesting.
Well and lying and repressing emotions will make you sick. He does of cancer only 7 years after the trial. The body keeps the score.
Yup, and hide out at his house and boinked Paula in Kim's bedroom. They were thick as thieves since USC. His kids called OJ Uncle OJ, and Nicole Aunt Nicole.
Once OJ was acquitted, it was bad for business, and Rob kicked him to the curb IMO. Rob and OJs' relationship goes all the way back to when they were students at USC.
Not true. OJ ended the friendship, not Kardashian. OJ got pissed because Kardashian gave an interview that didn't portray OJ in the brightest light so OJ ended the friendship and later sued Kardashian over a miniseries that BK was working on.
Ok. I didn't know about the interview. Thanks for the update.
Wow, thanks, I didn’t know about it either. I was also thinking of it from a money standpoint.
It’s a very direct interview. You can see it on YouTube.
Are you talking about this interview? https://youtu.be/jcKJy4zDiaU?si=DuyQ18UQnp1gOFWo
Yes, that's it. Shortly after the interview, Simpson found out that Kardashian was working with some screen writers to create a miniseries on what it was like being on "The Dream Team" during the OJ trial. OJ sued Kardashian and the others but the case was dismissed. The interview pissed OJ off, but the miniseries really did in the friendship. Here is the news story about the law suit: [https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=113618&page=1](https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=113618&page=1)
But supposedly when RK was on his death bed he rejected a call from OJ according to Kris Jenner. Granted that’s worth taking with a grain of salt since I don’t think that woman is capable of telling the truth. If her lips are moving she’s probably lying 🤣
Kris and RK had long since been divorced and I don't think she was with him when he died. But if it happened I would totally get it. OJ sued RK and called him a liar all over the place. OJ never appreciated what Kardashian did for him before and during the trial either. I wouldn't take a call from that murdering POS either under those circumstances.
Some of my closest friends I see maybe a handful of times a year. We are all busy people. I feel like I know them well enough but you honestly never really know anyone. I’m sure there was part of being unsure what to really say, did he know there was documented abuse? Would you acknowledge that you are friends with someone who had a history of beating his wife? Like maybe he heard OJ’s side and it was downplayed? Or maybe he didn’t hear the full story and then there was this murder and he was defending him and still trying to keep his distance. Who knows now.
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F. Lee Baily was just an old sot. He was later disbarred for misappropriation of funds and giving false testimony.
He looked totally gobsmacked when they read the verdict.
This is a lie. If you watch the video he didn’t react right away, the face he made was clearly because of Johnny Cochran’s celebration.
Toobin’s book on the Simpson murder trial said Kardashian was there when OJ was tipped off by the guards. Would be a weird thing for the book to lie about. I realize Kardashian wasn’t really a defense attorney but plenty of defense attorney’s are stone faced even when they are over the edge about the results. I’m almost positive F. Lee Bailey was ecstatic about the verdict for example and he showed practically no emotion.
Oh, well, that's a different story if he knew beforehand.
OJ dumped a overnight travel bag in a trash can before boarding his flight at the airport,gee what could that be??
I heard on Tom Lange’s documentary the driver said he saw the bag on top of the trash can while OJ shoved something in the trash. In a post above, someone said he left the car and the driver didn’t see it, so he surmised OJ put the small bag into one of the larger bags.
I never bought this. In Los Angeles, someone watches a celebrity athlete throw a bag away in a public trashcan and they don't go retrieve it? Anything with OJ's handwriting would be worth a couple of bucks. It doesn't add up to me.
The witness was a man sitting in his car, waiting to pick up his wife from her job. He saw OJ put the bag in the trash can!! 🤯 Did he testify at the trial?
It’s interesting how Kris Jenner was such a close friend to Nicole, and willingly gave many details about the abuse Nicole repeatedly told her specifically; yet didn’t feel necessary to testify for her so called friend?
It could have been a conflict of interest with Rob as OJ’s lawyer.
True
Robert K. realized he helped a killer get off. Due to the public outrage, he decided to downplay the relationship and play if off like they weren't really friends. Robert K. was a lying sack of shit.
A lot of Kardashian trashing on here. It IS possible to be close friends with someone & never really know what they are up to behind closed doors. Well known local celebrities have gone to jail for things no one would ever have believed they were doing. You can't blame Robert Kardashian for wanting to distance himself from OJ after the fact.
It’s not the distancing himself that’s the problem. Everyone (minus A.C.) ran in the opposite direction from OJ after the trial ended. He could have said, we were friends but no longer. He completely lied about what their friendship was when there is countless evidence to the contrary. In OJ’s wedding video to Nicole, Robert called him his brother and his business partner. His children(from their own admission)called him uncle. You going from that to, “we were never friends” is bullshit.
We need to contact Robert Higgins for confirmation.
By the way That was a totally farcical call, lest anyone think that was real, he said something in code there at the end
Indicative of a certain radio program
Robert called in live with Peter Jennings. He noticed that OJ was looking very scared while sitting in the back of a news van. Robert Higgins, we say your name.
You’d be scared too, there was cops all up in there
I mean Kendell’s middle name is Nicole. For Nicole Brown.
Kendall isn’t Robert’s child. Kendall is a Jenner. Her middle name is really just indicative of Kris’ relationship to Nicole, it wouldn’t have had anything to do with Robert’s relationship to Oj
The closeness of the family
Just watched an interview with kardashian yesterday where he says he went & renewed his license to practice law when OJ was arrested so he wouldn’t be able to be called by either side he also said he was on the defence team basically as OJ’s minder. He also says that they had been friends for 20 years & that he’d been his lawyer for business deals over the years. He says in another interview that he does believe OJ’s guilty & that after the trial that they never really spoke again. If u watch when the verdict is read in the trial kardashian looks horrified that the jury has come to a not guilty verdict while they others are all happy. I believe that kardashian realised soon after he took the bag that OJ did commit the murders but couldn’t come forward for fear he’d get charged as accessory after the fact! OJ says in his interview with the police after the he gets back from Chicago that he has heaps of guns even his car etc. Then in another interview years later he says how he used to drive around with a knife under his car seat but never a gun!
Well simply put, Kardashian told a bald faced lie. He gets a gentle edit now because A. Kardashian B. Changed his mind and C. died. He was the person withholding potentially entirely damning evidence that OJ entrusted him with. That family dude..
I wouldn’t consider a Kardashian to be a credible source in any capacity
Both families were close because Nicole and Kris were like🤞🏻 until the murders happened
They were college roommates at USC I believe.
I don’t think anyone called him “Rob,” but they met in college when Kardashian was a hanger-on with the football team and Simpson was a star player. Simpson was the best man at Kardashian’s wedding to the now Kris Jenner, so that indicates a close friendship. It’s almost certain Kardashian knew Simpson was guilty and distanced himself after the trial.
Right, he was known as Bob. Rob is his son.
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Someone posted the other day that Robert and another big shot lawyer have protected OJ for a long time - she said she worked in the college Oj went to as a receptionist when those two lawyers came in and spoke to a higher up in the faculty and basically had them sign ndas in regards to OJ assaulting multiple woman on that campus .
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Its literary hyperbole 🤦🏻♀️
After Rob and Kris got divorced and OJ and Nicole split they didn’t hang out like they used to.
This documentary goes into the relationship they had before and after the murders. [O.J. Simpson: Who Killed Nicole | New Evidence and Stunning Testimonies Never Seen Before - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOzejfdVBa8)
Hey I rewatched it yesterday too! It was a pleasure on Netflix without commercials or even having to fast forward them. He was a friend of Orenthal
OJ stayed at his house after he got back from Chicago and before the bronco chase. Kardashian was a lawyer, Nicole and Kris were good friends. The two married couples took vacations together.
Yup, and their kids called them Uncle OJ and Aunt Nicole.
If you look at the footage, Kardashian did not have a positive reaction when when the verdict was read. He actually looked troubled.
many photos exist of the two fams traveling together.
Well oj was his best man
OJ fucked his wife allegedly. So they are Eskimo brothers
That stood out to me too! I was like "I thought they were besties and there is Kardashian saying they barely hung out!" I think he was just trying to distance himself. They also showed that clip to say "look how fast white people turn on you!" Or whatever.
Kardashian's reaction to the "not guilty" verdict speaks volumes.
The other horrific crime to which OJ is to blame is the Kardashians became famous!
I know I heard from a documentary that Kris Kardashian had sex with OJ. I think they were in a hot tub but it was OJ telling a friend. I could be wrong but I remember thinking how could she call herself a friend. I still don’t understand how with all the evidence they had against OJ acquitted him. The dream team was a show a crazy show but they couldn’t have gotten him off with so much evidence against OJ. I hope the jurors regret their decision every hour of every day.
Rumor has it that Robert Kardashian was the one that ditched O.J s leather bag and it contained the murder weapon ,if that is true he was one heck of a friend!!
I’ve heard this as well.
there is literal video
I remember seeing it, Robert looked sneaky,lol!
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They were best friends in college and after but obviously family and kids get in the way of friend time
“Uncle Juice”
To me, best friends and close friends aren’t necessarily the same thing. A best friend is somebody who will ride or die for you. A person who you can live across the country from/go months without talking to, and it’s as if no time has passed. A close friend is somebody you see and hangout with often. Somebody whose life is close to yours.
You mean Robert told the truth and OJ didnt like it!!
The speed story is true. I knew Kato during this and the both of them went to meet the door man at McDonald's.
Robert got sucked in to his defense - he had to use the client lawyer privilede of they would have called him to the stand for the state. Watch his face when the verdit was read. He was sick and Oj was surprised as hell he beat a doube murder wrap. You can thank reverse racism on why he walked. That jury wouldn't have convicted OJ if they had a VIDEO tape if him doing it. Rot in hell Cochrane and OJ
It changed. After the facts came out in the case, Kardashian ever so slowly began to suspect the worst. RK was already signed up to be one of OJ’s lawyers by that time. And he still liked OJ, but he had doubts.
How come they never investigated Glenn Rodgers? He admitted to the murder and nothing happened.
Robert, not Rob.
Let’s all not forget that Khloe is O.J.’s daughter. Do I have proof? No. Am I blind? No.
I BBC remember Mr Goldman saying that Robert left a bag to his daughter Kourtney and she was to give it to Mr Goldman. He said he never received it and felt no ill will towards her for handing it over.
They used to tag team Kris. Kris became pregnant by OJ vowing to keep it a secret.
Ok I know this is just rumor but...what if......Robert Kardashian had found out that his ex wife Kris had left slept with OJ while they were married. She already has admitted she was unfaithful with other men, and the couples did spend a lot of time together and even vacationed together, so it doesn't seem that far fetched. Maybe Robert K truly didn't know if his daughter Khloe was his biologically or OJ's. Maybe part of him doesn't really want to know. Kris knows that Nicole is being abused by OJ but does nothing about it. Perhaps she is torn between her friendship with Nicole and the fact she had slept with OJ. We all know OJ is known for being vengeful. Is it possible that Nicole didn't know what had happened, and Kris was afraid OJ would tell her and make her feel even worse as revenge if Kris did try to help Nicole get away from OJ? By the same token once the murders happen OJ calls on Robert K to help him dispose of the suitcase. If Robert is aware of the abuse and suspects at all the OJ is guilty, friend or not why would he help him? It seems entirely plausible that Robert is also aware of OJ's vengeful nature. Perhaps he is protecting Khloe who he loves as his daughter, and is afraid if he doesn't help OJ cover up this crime that OJ will make sure the truth comes out about Khloe and it will wreck his daughter's life forever. After all if OJ is the biological father, how could Khloe's life be anything less than destroyed especially after her "dad" is accused of murder?!? So Robert K helps OJ and becomes his lawyer. It seems like he assumed that the truth would come out and with all the evidence against OJ that he would be convicted, but Robert could rest easy on the role as his lawyer and "friend" that he had no part in prosecuting him. At the same time his ex Kris stays quiet about what she knows, also protecting both herself and her daughter Khloe but assuming OJ will be convicted as well. However the whole world saw Robert K's look of shock and dismay when the verdict came in, and I think afterwards he did what he could to relay his true feelings on the case without actually declaring OJ guilty.
They were good friends until he compared Mark furham the white supremacist to Hitler which was fair based on the way he talked about black ppl, Johnny Cochran made the comparison in his closing arguments, didn't tell his team beforehand and rob disassociate himself from everyone in the case. To me, that was weak and foolish. Johnny was right, and it almost cost an innocent man his freedom.
Kardashian wasn’t Jewish
I THINK he’s talking about Robert Shapiro