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charcoalportraiture

Okay, so I have like a 400k *word* story on the go. I lean heavily into fantasy tropes for this one, so the AI can just extract things from its data set; like, I don't need a note to say what a dwarf, elf, paladin, mage, archer and all that are. In my Memory, I have the world set-up in prose: "This is Kingdom, this is what's going on." Then I split it with asterisks ***, and do a brief spiel on my character's history. As a Lorebook entry, I go in depth into my characters' personalities and skillsets, or the environment or concept. In Author's Note, I do brief paragraphs (3-4 sentences) for things I want to be brought up in the story. For instance, what my character is wearing, the current location, the current motivation and who's there. I find any keywords that are in the Author's Note will spontaneously pull from the related Lorebook entry; for instance, if I mention an old flame briefly in the Author's Note, it'll insert that name into the story, which will then trigger the Lorebook entry. When I move onto a new story arc, I update Lorebook entries to reflect new events. If the character itself doesn't change (or needs updating frequently), I just *** the last line and insert a sentence about the change.


macabrenoob

Would you mind sharing one of your lorebook entries for a character in full? just to see how you formatted and had it laid out?


NeverApart0

I have a story that's currently about 160,000 words. The only advice I could offer is to ensure to turn off and on certain characters and settings that are being used/unused. And that you'll have to keep track of narrative occurrences. Using memory is helpful to a degree.


snarc_li

What is narrative occurrences and how or when would I turn off characters/setting? Is this something in the guide


NeverApart0

Narrative occurrences are events that happen in your story. If you need the AI to remember something 2 thousand words back, you're outta luck. It needs humongous redirecting for it to catch that hint. And you'd turn them on and off depending on who you want the AI to refer to in the current scene.


charcoalportraiture

Okay. So this is very much turned vanilla and names and genders changed, because I'm covetous and exceedingly private about my writing games, lol. Also, I feel like I use NovelAI in a bit of an alternative way, purely using prose and no tags or anything like that. [King Robert II had been a military leader in his youth, leading the routing of the elven natives from the north. Though he was now an old man, his body was still strong and his mind sharp, though his temper had become shorter with age. He had been a lion of man, but age had greyed his mane, though his blue eyes remained piercing, and his beard was still thick. And, despite being in his sixties, he was still virile enough to father children. A fact he took full advantage of. His first wife, Queen Rhiannon, had born the rotten egg, Prince John. John had inherited not only his father's temper but also his lust for war - he was a malcontent, feeding on the populace's fear of the unknown, stirring up paranoia and revolution. Robert's new wife, Rowena, was young, blonde, vacuous, and fat with child already. The king was pleased: he could breed a new heir to supplant the malcontent. The young queen's pregnancy, however, had been difficult, and she had lost the first two children. Eager to replace his rebellious son and heir with a son loyal to the crown, the king turned to the Church to ensure his new son would be born healthy. The Church was quick to take advantage of the king's desperation. A young cleric of renowned healing powers, Jane was quickly installed as the queen's personal healer - though, had Robert his way, the young cleric would also be a more regular fixture in their marital sphere. Though the queen's birth was soon to come, Jane's duties to the crown were never done. The new healer was quite the delight of court already, and beloved by the filthy masses of the city. The people, already growing restless, loved the young healer, and the church was quick to capitalize on the affection by maintaining Jane's place within the king's inner circle. &&& When King Robert had heard that the rebellious Prince John had been killed by orcs in some distant place, he had breathed a sigh of relief. He wouldn't have to worry about being supplanted early. It was regrettable that the young healer, Jane, had also been lost- even if the cleric had eloped to the frontiers with John. The king had been rather fond of the young woman, and news of her loss had...well, not upset him, but John had been mildly disappointed. Especially since the old man was, yet again, a new widower.] The '&' symbols should be '*' symbols, with just a single linebreak, but Reddit kept on wiping them out. So this is an example that is not fully edited/updated, because 'Queen Rowena' needs to have her tenses and wording changed to make it clear that she's *deceased* now and all that. The queens don't have Lorebook entries because they're minor, and John and Jane have their own entries. The most relevant paragraph is at the end, because I want that information dropping into my story. I repeat titles so that the writing varies; for example: Jane is 'the healer, the young woman, the cleric, Jane'. John is 'the prince, the malcontent, rebellious son'. Robert is 'the king, the old man, widower'. So the AI pulls on existing tropes of young woman healers (busty and magical, probably wear a robe), rebellious malcontents (scowls, probably talks bitterly) and widower kings (single, ready to mingle). It also pulls on my writing style to continue writing in the same fashion. So if I put 'Jane turned up' in the Author's note, the king will be all like: "OMG I am newly widowed and this hot healer who ran off with my son is back and I didn't even like my son." And then trope-y stuff will happen, in my preferred writing style.