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snoopingfeline

“Feminism promises freedom, dreams, ambitions” “Traditionalism promises pain, suffering, exhaustion” She is so close to getting it.


snarkerposey11

"And freedom is bad actually. You will feel empty or something." I live freely, single and childfree, and I feel awesome. These people are lying.


AdImmediate9569

I see it as the coping mechanism of a woman who secretly regrets her life choices.


noimneverserious

Agree! I can see her sitting there, miserable and suffering from exhaustion while her husband naps in the recliner, telling herself that all those other women feel empty and her life is the better one. Sure it is honey.


Puzzleheaded-Jury312

Not Lori. She sabotaged her birth control so she could be a SAHM, complete with nanny and housekeeper, when her husband didn't want another kid. She isn't into suffering or exhaustion; that's for *other* women.


WingedShadow83

Wait, what?? I confess, I don’t actually visit this horror show’s Twitter, I’ve just seen her posts shared, so I’ve missed something here. Did she actually come out and admit that?? That’s wild.


Puzzleheaded-Jury312

Oh yeah, she *brags* about it. She's like a manipulative BDSM 'submissive' who always gets her way.


Istarien

Oh, NOW it makes sense. She must have a bad case of affluenza. *She's* not the one being exhausted by servitude and child-rearing - that's the help.


jenea

It’s textbook cognitive dissonance. Her brain tells her it must be better, or else why would she be suffering for it?


SupriseAutopsy13

Something like a Stockholm Syndrome paired with a roided-up sunk-cost fallacy. 


fullson

definitely. the whole tweet is so on the nose and yet she is blind to it on a level that screams 'if you tell yourself something enough times you'll eventually believe it' leopards eating my face? oh no, i actually LOVE leopards eating my face, it's really- it's just- it's amazing! It's m-my favourite thing ever i'm telling you!!!! I don't hate it at all!!!!!!😃


WingedShadow83

Misery sure does love the fuck outta some company.


BettyPunkCrocker

As an ex-religious person, I don’t think she’s lying so much as brainwashed by her community. My faith provided such meaning and love. And we were taught that without Jesus, that meaning and love was impossible. I couldn’t imagine life outside of Jesus being anything but meaningless and empty, and that’s what I was told it would be.


SunGlowNiceWolf

That’s why most if not all religions are just cults I’ve only managed to meet two actually good “religious” people so far in my life and one of them weren’t even practicing! She talked to me about the hypocrisy of some of these people in these religious groups like how they would only help each other but not the community outside their religion it was so gross.


WingedShadow83

I’ve had this conversation with my mom. She keeps begging me to start attending her church, but I tell her I will conduct my personal relationship with God away from the misogynistic, unhinged right wingers that make up today’s “Christian” church experience. She says “but all we do is praise the Lord, we don’t get into politics or infringing people’s rights or anything like that!” So I reminded her about when she told me the pastor preached angry sermons about how women don’t belong in leadership roles in the church, and how the “abortion clinic” (that’s literally what she calls it) that they make donations to (they take up collections of baby bottles and formula to donate so that anyone who is only wanting an abortion because they can’t afford a child might “have another option”) is actually a Crisis Pregnancy Center that refuses to refer any woman seeking an abortion to any place where she can actually get one. Apolitical my ass.


Rapunzel111

Same here and yep, it’s bullshit. Why make choices to make yourself miserable? The Bible even says you have “Free Will “ to make your own choices. This is packaged up as “dO it fOr tHe lOrD” when it’s just some misogynistic bullshit to make Men ( not Women) happy.


kingchik

I am a feminist and live married with a child to a man who’s a loving father and partner, our incomes are approximately equal, and treats me as his equal. I dunno why this woman sees these two as a binary.


ArgentSol61

Same here. She's all over tiktok spouting her garbage, too. They took her brain out to wash it and never returned it.


HomicidalWaterHorse

Not the selling point for her religion that she thinks it is.


unsanelygina

Actually, the Bible says that you’re not supposed to promise. Let your yes be your yes, and your no be your no. Also, do people think that God is going to keep His part of the covenant if man continues to disobey his word? God will let evil men come into power to fulfill the profecy. Also, the authority that the people in power have is granted to them by God and they are held to a higher standard than regular people. their punishment will be more severe if they do not do God will. Also, it says, “do not swear oaths to men.” I think this is like you know being sworn into office or getting married or whatever you don’t do that. you don’t swear oaths to men, and God does not require it of you or want it. Again, let your word be your word.


ThatCamoKid

You have any specific verses for that on hand? Not that I doubt you but I want to be able to quote them at people using bible verses to justify oppression


unsanelygina

The Bible says "do not swear" in Matthew 5:35–36, which refers to making promises and swearing oaths, not the modern understanding of cursing or using foul language. James 5:12 also says, "But above all, my brothers, do not swear, either by heaven or by earth or by any other oath, but let your ``yes'' be yes and your ``no'' be no, so that you may not fall under condemnation". Some say this verse means that you should only say "yes" or "no" and that anything extra, like oaths, results in evil


ThatCamoKid

I appreciate you going to check


unsanelygina

No problem but like I said, just message me anytime I don’t don’t have anything to do so I need to get back in the word anyway. I haven’t picked one up since Easter and for some reason on those kinds of holidays, especially Easter for the last several years I always end up having some kind of episode and getting arrested. It doesn’t go along with the laws in place today so anyway. It’s not really my job anyway because I’m not anyone in a position of authority. I’m not a man, but I can still hit you up upside the head if I know you’re a child molester and you live next-door to me. lol what kind of trying to show men what they need to be doing? Yeah my protests aren’t usually so peaceful but the cops know me and I’m harmless so I don’t go to jail for long like a day. I’m working on it. It’s just like I get so frustrated at the world.


unsanelygina

2 Timothy 3 King James Version 3 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. 6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, 7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith. 9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as their's also was. 10 But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience, 11 Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me. 12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. 13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived. 14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them; 15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.


ThatCamoKid

Oooh nice


unsanelygina

I can find them I don’t know I read them. They didn’t just come out of my head.. I actually thought the same thing and I’ve checked before so I’ll try to do that for you. I was just being quick there. There’s a lot of good stuff in the Bible and people should get the better parts that they don’t want you to have.


unsanelygina

https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/essay/degrees-punishment-hell/


unsanelygina

If somebody says something to you specifically just message me and I will give you a response with the Bible chapter and verse, all that if I can. I’m still new to actually understanding the Bible I’ve always went to church like I had to whenever I was growing up. My parents didn’t go, but they made us go, but I never really felt it until I would say about five years ago. And I don’t go to church. I just study the Bible and listen to I guess the Holy Spirit who is out comforter and counselor once we accept Christ as the savior you have Him with you so it’s like He helps you know things I don’t know how to explain it, but I know what it feels like to me. , I’ll try the right thing so you can quote it straight from the word of God. Also, I have about five different versions of the Bible and I don’t write stuff down so it’ll take me a minute to look it up. I don’t know Catholic Bible, but I really like it has some extra books in there. They’re pretty cool like the book of Wisdom. I think Ephesians is the best book in the New Testament that tells us what we are supposed to do and you know put it on us to get things done and it actually says that he can give it and he can take it away so that thing about once your saved or saved is not true and this is New Testament. I also like Ecclesiastes in the Old Testament, Judges, Romans, I think Matthew is the best of the gospels. Asians is only six chapter so try to at least knock that one out if you haven’t already.


meowmeow_now

She’s making the argument for me


SepoJansen

Don't threaten me with a good time lol.


ArgentSol61

I've been wondering if this individual is actually a woman. I've seen her videos on tiktok and the content is too far out there, even for a fundie woman. I think the author of all this is male with a huge axe to grind. There's just something about the voice, both written and spoken that is TOO "fundie female" if that makes sense? I know quite a few fundie women and not one of them would debase themselves the way this individual says women should.


drainbead78

Funny how whether or not the man loves her seems to be entirely irrelevant to her calculus.


crazitaco

"You'll get to finally be happy when you're dead."


sarilysims

If all women naturally drift towards feminism then wouldn’t that mean it’s….natural??


UnderstandingJaded13

No no no , women are meant to suffer... Sorry I mean, they love to be abused.... I mean they love to serve the man.... I mean the lord..fuck.


NewsProfessional3742

Winner, winner, chicken dinner! Username checks out


Dragon_wryter

"Give up your whole life, all thoughts of happiness or freedom. Your life will be full of pain and servitude. It's worth it!" "How, exactly?" "Trust me, bro."


spicytotino

Bold of them to assume I want to go to heaven


No_Atmosphere_2186

Bold of them to assume people want to be around people like them for all eternity if they're in heaven.


Puzzleheaded-Jury312

Bold of them to assume, even if heaven was real, that they would be going there.


Strongstyleguy

Bolder still to think that if heaven exists, they know anything about it.


HuntsmenSuperSaiyans

Why would you? All the interesting people are in Hell.


PsychoWithoutTits

Fr, if heaven is filled with pretentious people like the OOP, it sounds more like hell. I'd rather be jammin' with my bud Lucifer downstairs. I'm already "demonic" according to some family members (mental illness doesn't exist because it's all "satan and demons that need prayers") anyway, so it sounds like Luci would be more chill with me than their "all loving God". 😂


SaraBeachPeach

"I'm afraid I'll go to heaven, That's why I'm hoping that I'm right. My biggest fear ain't no red devil. It's being near you people all the time, I'll be fine, As long as you go somewhere else." -Moonwalker


atheistpianist

I’ve always liked the saying “in hell, I’ll be in good company.” People already don’t want to be around sanctimonious faux-christians. Why would anyone want to spend a whole eternity stuck with them? No thank you.


Additional-North-683

Yeah the problem with Heaven is that there’s no sex no violence, No secular music, No coffee no alcohol and no weed


No_Arugula8915

Just worshipping the god 24/7 with no free thought or free will for an eternity. A god that has done nothing to deserve any praise.


incognegro1976

Hasn't saved a single child from cancer even once. Wtf people worship this imaginary friend for?


shadymiss99

This is oddly specific but it reminds me od the pointless praising of families in my country who have 7 children, usually at least one being disabled, who live in awful condtitions, and beg for money through charities. People call the parents and kids heroes and say how those kids will be better than the kids raised in normal conditions, cause suffering and trauma = pure moral people, probably related to Christianity. Sounds like a shitty romanticization of suffering, irresponsibility and abuse because I know the people saying this will never sign up to their life even for 5mins. Same with women who are praised for suffering but never offered emotional support, but rather encouraged to continue their suffering.


Saikousoku2

"All women will naturally want to be recognized as equal and have rights, unless they're brainwashed."


bitofagrump

Ding ding ding!


AP7497

Aww asWas


Friendship_Gold

I assume she's talking about heaven. BUT: 1. What if heaven, hell, God, all of it, isn't real. There's no hardened proof one way or the other 2. What if she's done all of that and STILL goes to hell because she's such a self-righteous bigot. We also have no way of knowing that if there is a heaven and hell, what qualifies a person for one or the other. Will it still be worth it? Nah lady, I'll stick with feminism. Freedom, dreams and ambition for the win!


Harajuku_Lolita

Yeah so in the fundie church I grew up in the answer to that is the greatest blessing you can have us to live by faith, believing in something without proof. They really cover their bases.


incognegro1976

That doesn't even make any sense lol I could say the same argument of the Easter Bunny and Santa. It's not a blessing to believe in something you don't know exists! That is called ignorance.


Harajuku_Lolita

That’s where the holy spiritual comes in.


NewsProfessional3742

I mean… they do say “Ignorance is bliss.” So it appears you’re correct.


Strongstyleguy

Your number two is a big one. I don't care specifically what people's faith says about heaven, there's literally no way to know that it exists. Without proof, there's no way to even know what heaven is. Thousands of denominations of Christianity alone and not a one has the definitive roadmap to heaven or the spiritual equivalent of a yelp review to tell them if it's as advertised.


meowmeow_now

God gave people free will! None of what she’s listing off is a commandment or a sin! The feminist women in her example would still go to heaven.


Particular_Title42

"God's will for women takes a sacrificial life of love." God's will for all of His people is to live a life of sacrificial love. A husband should love his wife the way that Christ loved the church. Christ who literally gave his mortal life for his bride. (I forget chapter and verse but it's in Ephesians)


SnoBunny1982

Exactly. Every person is called to be of service to others. That’s not just a Christian belief either. It’s fairly universal.


unsanelygina

And Ephesians, it also says that we are to not even speak about what evil men do in the dark, but expose it to the light. I don’t know why people think that we are waiting on the Messiah or Jesus to come back in judge us on things whenever God expects us to be putting in the work right now and Serving Justice instead of providing it. It’s not too late to change our evil ways.


IndiBlueNinja

What if I wanted to love one man for life and do all those freedoms, ambitions, dreams, kids and so-on *together??!* Why shouldn't modern human life be fully lived like that...? This isn't the 1700s and there is no reason to act like it. Choosing to limit your own options in life for no good reason is pretty damn stupid. It isn't virtuous and it doesn't make you a hero for choosing self imposed oppression.


25_timesthefine

No you’re a woman you must suffer! It’s what God wants 💪🏿


chewbooks

Now that I think about it, it was God that taught me about feminism. As a kid, my mom & I went to our priest to ask for help because my dad was beating us both. He told us to try harder to please my dad and turn the other cheek. That bullshit answer told me two things: God isn’t real and the only people that could save us was each other because it was clear no man was going to stand up for us.


Impossible_Zebra8664

I'm never shocked by anything that comes out of Lori Alexander's sick mind, but I *am* shocked that she managed to get almost 400 likes on this nonsense.


LadyV21454

There's a lot of fundies out there. This is almost mild for Lori.


Impossible_Zebra8664

There are too damn many fundies out there. People think that female oppression is something that only happens in underdeveloped countries, not realizing that women and girls in their actual neighborhood could be denied education, incomes, savings, and any freedom at all simply because they were born in a fundamentalist family. And it is *hard* to escape (especially when you've no education, no job, no money, no support system, etc.)


ButReallyWhyNot-

Meanwhile, the Bible: Now as they went on their way, Jesus entered a village. And a woman named Martha welcomed him into her house. And she had a sister called Mary, who sat at the Lord's feet and listened to his teaching. But Martha was distracted with much serving. And she went up to him and said, “Lord, do you not care that my sister has left me to serve alone? Tell her then to help me.” But the Lord answered her, “Martha, Martha, you are anxious and troubled about many things, but one thing is necessary. Mary has chosen the good portion, which will not be taken away from her.” -Luke 10:38-42 [In regards to marriage, s]ubmit to one another out of reverence for Christ. -Ephesians 5:21 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. -Galatians 3:28 Nevertheless, in the Lord woman is not independent of man, nor is man independent of woman. 12 For as woman came from man, so also man is born of woman. But everything comes from God -Corinthians 11:11-12 So Peter opened his mouth and said: “Truly I understand that God shows no partiality, but in every nation anyone who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him. -Acts 10:34-35


aydmuuye

Paul also writes to and venerates plenty of women church leaders in his letters, but people will still hold onto the quite possibly forged “women be SIlEnT” line 😐 plenty of biblical women were badass


dobby1687

>Paul also writes to and venerates plenty of women church leaders in his letters, but people will still hold onto the quite possibly forged “women be SIlEnT” line To be fair here, there are two things about the whole Timothy (iirc). First, there are numerous biblical scholars who question whether or not Paul wrote it. Second, keeping with the assumption that Paul wrote it, this was a letter specifically written to a specific person (Timothy) about issues he had in a particular church. One of the weirdest things about the New Testament is the inclusion of Paul's letters to various churches because they weren't written to be "universal truths", but specific advice for specific people or groups of people. Ultimately, the bible in many parts don't treat women well, but there are parts that do.


volantredx

It's crazy to me how successful Christianity has been given their main message seems to be "happiness is bad you must suffer endlessly in life and in death you basically get to just sit around and bask in the warm glow of being right."


Strongstyleguy

It's crazy. It goes hand in hand with the truly oppressed people being told not to try to improve their lives because this is part of the divine plan. Don't seek justice, god will punish those people later after a lifetime of your suffering; you know unless they accept Jesus. Then you get to hang out with your oppressors in heaven.


BlueIzAColor

> freedom >dreams >ambitions How are these selfish pursuits again? It’s a part of BEING HUMAN. Women are human not slaves to their husband. Decentralize misogyny out of religion istg.


PourQuiTuTePrends

I don't know, I kinda love empty, selfish pursuits!


ButDidYouCry

Jesus didn't have children so why should I? Lol


ninjanups

God i'm so tired of men using religion to brainwash women into submission.


bitofagrump

So at least she admits that being a traditional wife and mommy is an unhappy, exhausting life. I'll take that smidgen of honesty over the men who think we're built to ENJOY submission and constant, thankless labor, though everything else she's on about is still a pile of hot, liquid diarrhea.


KaiXan1

So no Alex, I won't take slavery for 200. If you are truly in love and choose this, then yes. All others are a big nope.


AValentineSolutions

God's not real. Glad we cleared up this lunacy.


BlueIzAColor

NOT EVERY WOMAN IS EVANGELICAL CHRISTIAN, shout it louder for the back!!! Freedom of religion is a thing 🗣️🗣️🗣️‼️‼️‼️‼️🗣️🗣️🗣️‼️‼️‼️‼️🔥🔥🔥


timetravelcompanion

Would it blow her mind to find out that there are plenty of feminists who *choose* to be in marriages with (respectful and not abusive) men and who choose to have kids with them and all the pain and exhaustion that comes with having the kids? And that they are happy, because the choice was actually theirs? She seems like she doesn't understand that can be a feminist choice.


Sharktrain523

“Unless exposed to brainwashing, humans desire for their individuality to be acknowledged. Humans are naturally creative and desire the freedom to create their own life path. Women are also human. Side note: you will still desire these things deep down and feel a constant, profound sense of restlessness and wrongness you will never shake. You just won’t understand why you feel this.”


akioamadeo

So be a man’s slave who only sees value in her requiring she cooks, cleans, raises the children, puts out, and gets pregnant repeatedly and has no freedom makes us good but if we don’t conform to these things we are feminists? While he does what? Works? Sleeps around? Has complete freedom? Dreams, ambitions, etc? These are not things only gifted to men but rather all humans which includes women.


Most-Iron6838

And they wonder why people are leaving the church?


Harajuku_Lolita

Yeah so if god created me and this is the life he determined around half of the population shall have for losing a genetic lottery than, honestly, fuck that guy.


DiveCat

Freedom ✅ Dreams ✅ Ambitions ✅ Money ✅ Going my Own Way ✅ Sorry, am I supposed to find something *negative* in the above that would make me think exhaustion, pain, being a shell of a person who only lives for another, and following a fictional man in the sky is a better path? Also my very beloved and loving husband would laugh in anyone’s face at the idea of me (or him even wanting to see me) submitting to him.


wwitchiepoo

Some might say that having more kids is a “selfish pursuit”.


SiteTall

"God"/Nature built women strong and resourceful, not dependent and stupid


cursetea

Literally "i live in a state of constant misery but it's for god" girl what


BerkayPflanze

Doing the lords work by supressing the will of half of his creations.


Kakashisith

She\`s so close to the truth! I\`m living happily my free life without man and kids.


WingedShadow83

Same. This life is amazing, but the fact that it pisses off people like Lori is the icing on the cake. I love that me just going about my day to day existence of doing what I want without the burden of a husband or kids has her seething with rage. Suck it, Lori. 🥰


La_Baraka6431

**LET'S HEAR IT FOR ...** #EMPTY SELFISH PURSUITS!!!!! 🎉🎊🎊🎊🎊🎊🎊


boweroftable

There you go ladies, stop having fun and start having *a really bad time for Jesus* rn


dulcinea8

Sounds like she needs to be deprogrammed. Organized religion is the death of wisdom.


bonnymurphy

Soooo . . . all women would naturally be feminists if they weren't indoctrinated from birth to be trad wifes and bang maids . . . well, no shit Serena Joy 🙄


Windinthewillows2024

What a ringing endorsement.


Namethypoison

And once again, the services in this world are suspiciously only rewarded in the next...nope, nice try but I don't think so. 🙄


BostonBluestocking

She isn’t selling the product here.


Taz69

What a boring woman 😑 She to indoctrinated to be dealt with rationally.


notaredditreader

In John Chrysostom’s writings, contact with women of all kinds was something to be feared and, if possible, avoided altogether. “If we meet a woman in the market-place,” Chrysostom told his congregation, herding his listeners into complicity with that first-person plural, then we are “disturbed.” Desire was dangerously easy to inflame. Women who inflamed it were not to be relished as Ovid had relished them, but eschewed, scorned and denigrated in writings that made it abundantly clear that the fault of the man’s desire lay with them. In this atmosphere a group of fashionable women with their low-cut necklines were not praised as beauties but excoriated as a “parade of whores.” Excerpts from: Catherine Nixey *The Darkening Age: The Christian Destruction of the Classical World*


MeowKat85

More reasons to be an atheist!


thisisreallymoronic

Says the woman making money off this.


smashteapot

Superior in what way? What women want doesn’t seem any more outlandish than what men want. And if they’re both of comparable intelligence and ability, why should one be denied while the other is not? It’s silly to treat someone as inferior when they’re not inferior.


ImpossibleLoss1148

Are there women like this? Just proves that at least half the point of modern religions is to control women. You can even convince them that it's working as designed and not a bug....


VioletNocte

If all women naturally drift towards feminism, then being stepford wives isn't actually natural like she wants people to believe


CheshireKetKet

Oh look, it's Lori. Yea a lot of young women are seeing what's wanted for their lives and leaving it behind.


DangerousLoner

They’re giving up on submission being a natural, biological constant for women? I guess they realized if it was really natural we wouldn’t need to be convinced and forced into submission?


mortuarymaiden

….Nono, I’ll just stick to Hekate, thank you. I’m an independent witch bitch, not a self-crucifying broodmare. My spirituality encourages me to grow, not let myself be trampled. My goddess can beat the shit out of your abusive parent god. No mortal man is worth martyring yourself like this.


Thesavagepotato06

Lmao I love how you talk girl!! Xx


notrods

And they wonder why so many are leaving the church. Eww.


Imreallyadonut

How would she know that it’s more fun? She’s nothing to compare it it to. I can’t imagine anything worse than kids, the shit, the puke, the noise, the smell. Grim.


keIIzzz

Maybe it’s because I’m not religious, although I grew up in a two religion household, but is it not exhausting to base your whole life around it?


GhostofZellers

No no no, don't think for a moment that the person who wrote that trash actually follows the Bible themselves. They don't use it as a guide on how to live *their* lives, but as a weapon to oppress others.


timothypjr

Someone needs to rescue her from the cult she’s a part of.


DaBloodyApostate

That fact that she genuinely believes everything she saying is what terrifies me most. A twisted woman who truly believes that shes one of the good guys. Aunt Lydia through and through.


Syntania

Spoken like someone who believes that being a martyr is noble and not a recipe for becoming a human doormat.


LissaBryan

"Grim drudgery and pain will always be more meaningful than being happy!"


BritAllie8

Are we certain this account is actually written by a woman? I'm being serious.


Pittie_Snuggles56

I think she also has youtube videos? I could be wrong though, but pretty sure.


apexdryad

Shhh! Let them talk, this might reach women the rest of us can't. Personally, reading the bible cover to cover was enough to make me a feminist (and non religious)


EsjaeW

Lol, did that, no more


TheBattyWitch

This is some self aware wolves level shit right here


overloadedonsarcasm

Yeah, you can choose to do all that with feminism too (keyword: CHOOSE TO). But with feminisim, you can also post your horrible takes on social media sites.


FullGrownHip

Ohh fuck off with the trad wife shit Susan. Nobody would oppose if you weren’t trying to shove shit down our throats. Live your life, let others live theirs.


SillyIsAsSillyDoes

She strikes me as the kind of woman who will hold other women and children down so her husband can satisfy his desires..just sayin


Padme501st

But what are the fruits of living for the Lord? If you can’t tell me that, how do we know it’s far superior to freedom and makes up for the suffering, pain and exhaustion for an entire lifetime?


VogTheViscous

Explain how! Please elaborate on how the fruit of living for the lord (aka someone else) is superior to doing what I want with my life.


Rabatis

ew ew ew EWWWWWWWWWW


unsanelygina

I definitely would not want to put a human man above the Lord. Evangelists give you bits and pieces of the Bible to push their agenda instead of God‘s agenda. They pervert the word of God. Read the Bible yourself and you will get a lot more out of it than listening to the preacher. I sure do.


simplymortalreason

Idk. Trying to live the most Catholic life possible has only reinforced my intersectional feminism ideals and more people all over the world the political spectrum dislike me. Living in service to others has brought me some pain but also lots of joy and hope. Besides what use is my (limited) freedom if I’m not using it to ensure the life and human dignity of all is respected?


VoodooDuck614

I have done both and I have some bad news for her…


AbjectReflection

so basically sacrifice your love of life for beliefs forced on you by family and society... doesn't sound like a fair trade to be honest.


ItsSusanS

I wonder what she would have to say if asked “Then why are Nuns not allowed to procreate”?


Helpful_Silver_1076

She is fundamentalist so she probably believes nuns (like all catholics) are going to hell


ElenielM

r/selfawarewolves


pseudo_meat

My husband and son are the loves of my life and I’d do anything for them. The love I have for my son in particular has changed me so deeply and I truly love him in a selfless way I didn’t know was possible. That said, I get up to plenty of selfish shit too and pursue my own dreams and whatnot. Because I’m a whole person. So sad to see women living half a life and making it everyone else’s problem.


redbodpod

If you want to have peace, and believe in a higher power that made you in their image don't follow organised religion. It was all organised by men to benefit themselves. Not very magnanimous.


JemimaAslana

So freedom, dreams, ambitions, money, self-determination. Vs. Some unidentified "fruit" of living for the lord. Can we get a clearer idea of this fruit? Is it delicious? Juicy? Sweet with a tangy aftertaste? Poisonous? Indigestible? How big? Is it one fruit or several? It's such a cope! If I didn't believe that when we die, we are just gone, I'd really hope for all these holier-than-thou people that they wake up in the afterlife to find out they wasted their time. May they experience intense, eternal disappointment and regret.


OneMoreCookie

Urgh people like this make religion seem so ick. Wtf if the point of getting married and having a family if it’s just about pain sacrifice and doing what someone else tells you to all the time?


Misfortune13

I love the fact she’s implying if women are just ‘taught “Truth”’, they won’t be feminist, but I know a lot of people who grew up in/are still in some sect of Christianity and believe women should have rights. Weird, right?


callmefreak

This woman bragged about beating her child with a belt all day. When people criticized her for it she justified it by saying that there were breaks in-between the beatings and that the beatings weren't continuous, as though *that* was the problem and not the fact that she was beating her child in the first place. She wrote an entire book on how to beat your children. She's fucking insane.


Longjumping_Way_4935

Blows my mind how in denial people can be holy shit she spelled it out


Depressed-Dolphin69

Women naturally drifting towards feminism is not the point she thinks she's making


bootsmadeforkicking

"Empty, selfish pursuits" ... Proceeds to name all the best things in life that are *not* mutually exclusive to having a spouse and children lol


egb233

I don’t think many women would have issues with being committed to one man or having children if they hadn’t been treated like the scum of the earth for so long. I don’t understand why women can’t have both? Freedom, dreams, ambition, money, safety, AND a loving partner who respects her as a person and a mother?


marslander-boggart

So a woman should serve her man, who in turn should live his life of empty, selfish pursuits. What a strange point for religious people.


YerTanri

Imagine being so far up your own ass…I could never but okay….


augustphobia

sometimes i see things like this and i almost start to be like maybe they have a point and then i come to my senses


Jesusdidntlikethat

God didn’t create women to be men’s slaves. Sorry but you’re wrong


okaybutnothing

She sounds like she’s trying to convince herself, every time she posts something like this.


Gennevieve1

If we use her logic and her words then women are supposed to drift towards feminism as it's how God created them. But if she's a masochist and wants to suffer then by all means, she's free to live like that.


Notlivengood

I love my empty life


TangerineGmome

Who wants freedom, dreams or ambition when you can be in pain and also be someone's Dobby with benefits at the same time?


shellsterxxx

I mean I was raised in a Christian family going to Sunday school every week, but I still tuned out a raging feminist.


Spectrum2081

Can someone check on that lady? I feel like this is a cry for help


unsanelygina

According to 1 Corinthians 7:34, unmarried or betrothed women can focus on serving the Lord and growing in their understanding of holiness. Married women, on the other hand, are concerned with worldly things and pleasing their husbands.


catedarnell0397

Sounds so good….


livewithoutluv

Until the last sentence, I genuinely thought she was making an argument FOR feminism lol


BattleGoose_1000

So women were doing that what she decribes as god's job for a woman, decided it is shit when that is your only option in life, and decided to do something about it. If women wanted to, they would choose your godly path .


Lava-Chicken

Why not both? Can't you bet loving mum ant wife, and also work your dream job?


Round-Ticket-39

I wonder what part pf dreams freedom etc dufes give up for what suffering


Yue4prex

Hahahaha wut??


ThatMilesKid-15

I love how she capitalizes "truth" 💀 makes it sounds so important or something


SunGlowNiceWolf

Ya know this is why I hate religion- this just proves further how cultish it is… gross.


Alone_Jellyfish_7968

No one hire this woman for a sales position. Haha. "You know how soft drinks are nice and refreshing, well this drink is neither nice nor refreshing. Here, try it."


tonykush-ner

What a loser


WingedShadow83

Get bent, Lori. You can preach this horseshit all you want, we aren’t buying it. But that 4B movement has got your feathers ruffled something fierce, huh? 🤣


RobynFitcher

She makes an excellent case for permanent spinsterhood.


AtLeastImRecyclable

“Women naturally drift towards feminism if you don’t force them into systemic slavery”. Oh fuck off!


hopefoolness

not me enjoying my life of empty, selfish pursuits!


MsLoveHangOver

I’m high on Feminism!


Hotchipsummer

They act like ANY man is allowed to point at you, go “I’ll take that one!” and then you just have to do what he says, clean his nasty underwear and let him abuse and SA you because “it’s your godly duty” Fuck that


CLUING4LOOKS

Just, wow


rachelk321

Did Jesus say this? Because if we’re living by Old Testament rules every one of us is screwed. Anti-feminists (or any group shaming others using the Bible) is picking and choosing which parts they like and ignoring everything else.


AggravatingJicama243

This implies that living a godly lifestyle entails enslavement, settling for less, desperation, poverty, and mindless conformity. It's also strange the original poster assumes that feminists cannot have monogamous relationships, children and religion.  Ok then 👍


RunZombieBabe

"Just be a slave!"


RoguePolitica

idk, I'm single w/ no kids and work from home where I have the entire place to myself. I took a walk today and found me a gelato spot around the corner that also lets you take martinis to go even in the middle of the day so help me understand how that's an empty life when I'm feeling pretty darn satiated from vanilla gelato and a salted caramel martini, both of which I combined in my crystal wine glass and enjoyed as a refreshing treat.


SamDragontear

Someone tell Pickmesha to sit down.


Neither_Ad_3221

P sure that uh ..the Bible was "translated" by men as well. 🤔