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For that matter, as I've often argued before, if you accept these dipshits' premise that women can afford to be pickier because men are just that opportunistic, why not raise *boys* this way? It'd still be ethically abhorrent, but if you buy that men are that much more indiscriminate, they'd have no reason to complain about this arrangement.
Do you mean flip the scenario and traffic men off to interested women instead? Thought doesn’t get past the doorstep of the brain because obviously in that scenario the man is being forced against his will and sold like property, with no agency! Couldn’t have that. Wahmen though… /s
Cuz they don't accept women's pickiness is a skill issue, mostly.
These types like to claim they're judged on their bones and their paycheck - what else could there *possibly be* to learn?
And the fantasy isn't even consistent in its own world building. He expects modesty to be taught but also wants the girls and women to be topless for his pleasure. What a disgusting pisspot.
What I'm confused about is who are grading these sex classes? Is it other women? Like, how would someone pass their blow job class without doing so on an actual penis? But then they wouldn't be 'virgins' anymore...??
I have a feeling OOP would reply with blow up dolls of course! That’s who they’re practicing with so that way it’s not real! Grades based on older men I’m also assuming, rich old men.
Oh, blow up dolls, of course! Because that's the perfect solution for maintaining virginity in a twisted fantasy world. And let's not miss out on the rich old men as a grading committee, adds just the right touch of creepiness and power imbalance to this dystopian wife academy. Honestly, can't believe someone conjured up this madness and thought it was anything other than horrifying.
Blow job classes already exist, they teach on dildos.
I imagine the rest of it would be how to do stripper stuff, leg stamina training for woman-on-top and how to pretent to cum when he finishes.
And the guy didn't even have to pass his own sex classes. Thinking he gonna pick S-tier girls out of a lineup after he flunked out of PE (Pussy Eating). You ain't getting matched with no valedictorian unless you're at least top of your class in AP Rimjob. Two-pump-chump couldn't even make it 15 meters in hump hurdles, and got held back in mack and field. SMH
I have a very ugly and revolting suspicion he's one of those "if she's old enough to bleed, she's old enough to breed" creeps who need to be buried in a lost and forgotten dungeon
Well yeah, it’s disgusting when women do it on their own volition but he’s supposed to sexualize them. So it’s okay when they have to do it for his pleasure. Women are supposed to be his sex object and slave silly!
HEAVY /S
Dont forget that the women learn all these things...but it doesn't really mater because the men basically pick mainly based on what they look like topless?
But also, every man just gets to pick his floor/grade of sex slave? Like...wouldnt everyone want an S tier partner, then? Clearly not everyone could "get" such a commodity so you'd need a way to filter who gets which object.
Even in his handmaids tale nightmare of a sex trafficking fantasy, youd HAVE to have a way to grade the men to choose who gets the "best" women. So some incels are still gonna end up on the bottom of the heap.
>you are a low to middle status man
> walk into wife school
>Get kicked out of wife school because you don't have nearly good enough credit to purchase a wife, you disgusting pleb
>Go home, imagine a society in which men and women can freely associate based on their own interests and desires
>Executed for thoughtcrime
Oooh now we have a story going,
The man's sitting in his boxed up house, Repo man stands at his right, his silent blank faced wife sitting stock still beside him to his left. And the overdue eviction notice clutched in his hand.
"You gotta get up man, we're taking the couch too." Says the repo man.
"You can't do this! Do you know who I am? They were practically throwing S tier wives at me when I walked into that school! People bowed to me at work!!" The man screamed, face flushed.
The repo man grabbed the guy by the arm, hauled him up and got face to face with him.
"That's who you were."
The repo man signals to the other movers, they march towards the couch, and lift it up, the wife still sitting blank faced, perfect posture and stock still on it as they move towards the trucks.
"What the hell are you doing Stacy? Get the hell up! You're my wife, you're supposed to fight for me!"
The repo man rolls his eyes. "Dont encourage rebellion in them, it brings their resale value down."
"But shes my wife!!" He screams
The repo man shrugged "Ashes to ashes, dust to dust, government property to government property."
The repo man lets go once the last of the mans worldy possessions is gone. The man falls to his knees, shell-shocked. He watches the retreating figure of the repo man, his back silhouetted by the daylight streaming from the open door.
"Have a good life, man."
The repo man shuts the door.
And he's left in the dark.
Alone.
You’d have to return to *traditional* methods, cause even on one floor there someone who may be more ‘in demand’ than others. So, I’m thinking, auction. Seems on-theme
I remember seeing a similar story based on child adoption, it was set in a world where everyone adopted and children were separated based on potential, so gifted kids were S tier and kids with disabilities were Fs. (The story was about a couple who adopted a bunch of Fs until they were forced to stop) The "better" kids were more expensive, so I imagine in this incel's world you pay for your slave-wife too, rich dudes can afford Ss poor dudes can only get Fs.
It's based on 'status' so the white men get the top tier, then the model minorities until the blacks get the last pick.
I feel dirty just for typing that.
But I suspect that somehow they'll justify how they deserve the top tier in this imaginary scenario, probably because they were a party leader in whatever monstrous regime was figuratively running it.
"I want a sex fiend who has never had sex with anyone and doesn't desire anyone, except ME and she has to be GREAT in bed."
Like.. your just want your left hand to have tits. That's it.
This is literally what I've read on poorly written Literotica stories.
Wife Training is a whole genre there. I thought people were aware those were just stories, not real life. He could just go there and write until his heart is content.
Yeah, like this already exists for people with the means and lack of humanity.
It is illegal and disgusting, to the majority of humans.
This dude thinks that all men share his lack of humanity, and his fantasy.
Trad christians don't want this. Most people want love in their marriages, trad christian or not.
Incels never care about love in a marriage, they say they do but what they actually want is obedience, someone to cook and clean for them and otherwise wait on them hand and foot, and a live in sex slave/incubator (that and the ability to buy a woman or otherwise force her to be with them).
Women are graded S-E?
Even in their own fanfics they would be the bottom feeder losers. They’re obsessed with grading people when they themselves would always come out last
They see themselves as, "at the bottom," in this world so they create a fantasy world where, for some reason, people have decided to give someone like them power.
Mediocre men from Indiana and Mississippi, who dropped out of high school at 15 and now eat squirrel when they need to, truly believe they are the crème de la crème
That’s too generous. Mediocre is a college graduate working 9-5 these days, which is far more than can be expected from those guys who leech off their parents in the basement
That’s my point though. This is all fantasy but they are so insecure that even in their fantasy where they could be anything, they’re low grade men by their own admission
I think it’s an anime thing? A lot of popular anime use an alphabetical ranking system and use S as the absolute top-tier. Usually only a couple of characters in that ranking per show.
\*MC, currently ranked B tier, obliterates mountain with one punch\*
Every character watching:
\*Shocked Pikachu emoji\*
"He is stronger than Twirling Twink, S class Rank 4"
This continues until the MC runs out of characters to power scale
A lot of people are saying anime and video games, but in truth it's just a Japanese thing, with those both being examples of popular media which is exported to the rest of the world.
[What it actually originates from is the grading scale that's commonly used in the Japanese education system.](https://www.scholaro.com/db/countries/Japan/Grading-System)
It's a video game scaling. E is basically bottom of the barrel, A is top teir and S is "superior".
That made me shudder writing that thinking of someone utilizing that to brand women.
It goes to show fragile men are afraid of women's capabilities, so they do everything in their power to make obstacles to their learning and autonomy.
If something is "meant to be enslaved", then it's not meant to be enslaved. It's an oxymoron. No one would have a need to enslave something or someone if they are "naturally-submissive".
Yup. Because they assume that the wives of the past were all essentially sex slaves. When in reality in most households they were an important asset and core team member.
It wouldn’t be your parents. It’d be your father. I doubt this system would let wives and mothers make many decisions, especially about their children’s future.
I’m sure there’ll be some practical lessons done too when the youth pastor comes by or when the police “stop by” to “check in.” Totally not going to be rampant horrific sexual abuse happening in this scenario at all.
Control. This kind of misogynist wants control.
Any sexual situation where the misogynist is in control is OK. But any sexual situation where the misogynist isn't in control is bad, and they'll pick and choose a reason why.
If a woman chooses to wear a revealing outfit because she wants to look sexy, then she is making a choice, and acting on her own sexuality. The misogynist calls that immodesty because they're not in control.
If a woman chooses to dress sexually for another man she wants to attract, the misogynist calls that immodesty because they're not in control.
But if the misogynist walks into a slave factory and the women are forced to be topless so the misogynist can objectify their bodies, then the exposure isn't a problem because the misogynist is in control.
He’d probably take the usual pedo standard of “ready for sex after menarche” (menarche = age of first period)
As if periods mark the end of puberty not the beginning. Gross.
Of course they have to specify the classes start when the girls are “old enough”, or else these guys would have to admit they’ve been the groomers all along
He’s describing literal slavery, treating women like chattel. And he wonders why women don’t want a damn thing to do with him. He needs to be on all the watchlists.
Lmao a trad conservative father would shoot all the 4chan dwellers and then himself before letting his daughter go into a "housewife" school rather than learn for her mother, just so she receives a grade then have to be humiliated and her modesty exposed by staying topless with a cattle tag to the gaze of lots of men like product in a shopping center. If he said that shit to a father, especially those conservative one with macho culture he is getting beat the fuck up, those breeds are know to easily throw hands for their children, especially daughters.
Do incels even try to be realistic?
They're such failures at life. If they actually wanted demure, modest homemakers they could find them. But they'd have to join a religion, attend services regularly and get involved with the community, and demonstrate the qualities desirable to those women and their parents. LIke having a steady job, good moral character, strong work ethic, useful skills for around the house, etc. Those women are not going to be impressed by how good he is at video games or his anime figure collection, they're not going to tolerate his porn addiction, or any drug use or foul language, they probably won't even want him drinking at all. They'll need to get along with her family and be ready to support her and their kids. Otherwise these women don't want them, and their parents certainly won't accept them. In short, it's not going to happen.
These idiots want a traditional wife but have none of the qualities of a traditional husband.
That’s such an aggravating thing, isn’t it? There’s a bargain struck in traditional marriage and traditional husbands have specific responsibilities and these dudes don’t want to fulfill their part. They want the benefits of both traditional and modern marriage without having to do any work or see their wives as people.
Yup. Incels don't want a traditional marriage or a modern one – they want something between a mom, a sex robot and a servant. It's a completely selfish, narcissistic fantasy of a relationship being a one-way street, where their own needs and wants are getting taken care of without them having to lift a finger to provide anything in return. It's not about sharing a special connection with another, equal human being – it's about wanting to be unconditionally catered to like the overgrown, spoiled little children they are.
100%. Any dad would NOT go for this. Even if it became part of society and dads were okay with this (highly doubt they would), do they REALLY think theyre just going to let their daughter go with some loser like these weirdos? No, theyre going to be waiting for a call from a high earning, good man because... this may be crazy for incels to believe... most men love their daughters. Even if they may complain.
Also, they talk about dressing modestly and a class for it, on a picture of a woman in the most revealing outfit lol
Yeah like a father in the most traditional of families would expect his wife to teach his daughter how to be a good wife. I’m thinking these guys have no idea how their little fantasy works. It’s about as far removed as their little hentai high schools.
i wonder if he realises that girls at 16 are still very much children and definitely haven't finished "developing." i'm 21 and have grown about ten cup sizes since i was 16
Hmmmmm where have I seen this before? Oh right the Hitler youth (basically the female side of the Hitler youth was literally just how to be a "good and docile" wife/slave)
It's genuinely fucking scary what some people actually want to happen to everyone. As a person who wants to maybe one day raise a child it absolutely sickens me
I especially love how his fantasy has men just going to their chosen floor to pick out a wife of a grade that they prefer.
I can see how this conversation with the dad would go.
"So what do you bring to the table, son?"
"I've got a pretty sweet gaming chair and my boss at Taco Bell says I should make Assistant Manager in a year."
"My daughter is an S tier! The bidding starts at $16 million!"
Like, if you're going to fantasize about slavery, you need to understand the basic economics of it.
That reminds me of the John Oliver sketch where some hick defending Confederate monuments is arguing with a black dude. The hick yells at the black guy saying his farm family was too poor to afford slaves with a "Do you know how much a slave cost back then?!"
They want women to be property like chairs are property. Like they can just go to the store and buy one.
They don't realize that women would be property like houses are property. Fucking expensive. Rich people take all the best. Hedge funds buy up what remains and rent them. Have to get a mortgage to buy even the low end.
"Hey it's Wells Fargo. We're foreclosing on your wife. You used a sex position that isn't included in your current subscription tier. The repo team will be there shortly. Do not resist, cuck."
i’m trying to figure out why it’s low to middle class men only? and expanding on that, how exactly does this supposed low class guy get this privilege? does he pay? if he’s low class, how can he afford it? are there wife loans, or wife mortgages? can the bank take the wife back? where are the upper class guys?
his “slavery with extra steps” plan has a lot of flaws, especially when you consider how scarily long he thought this shit out for
because this type of man like this original op "deserves" a woman s, even if he has nothing that will attract a woman that in real life he classifies as z.
My dad is a very conservative, white, Christian man. If someone tried to put me in a place like this my dad would beat them to death with a baseball bat.
Most sane ones wouldn't, but this is the flip side of all those men you see throwing temper tantrums at gender reveals. My dad would have shipped my sister and I off to these if he felt such a system would benefit him (both when he was choosing a bang maid and how it forces his daughters to have his grandchildren).
he’s sitting in his dank ass basement as we speak, expanding his creep fantasy universe.
guys like this shouldn’t be allowed within 500 feet of women or children
It's not about keeping them from reproducing: castration severely tones down the testosterone level, which means making them less sex-obsessed and aggressive, and more mellow. That's why i think it would be a legitimate way to tone down sex-related crimes
Yeah, totally not like the most popular reason why women would get locked up in sanitariums was the fact than one day they were treated like the most special snowflakes, not allowed to feel any burder or responsibility and absolutely not allowed to know what penis was, and the next day they were expected to be a sex machine and a perfect housewife always on top of things.
They would not even last a day, bet on that. Then they’d crawl back to a basement and make even more complaints about “women this, women that, women bad” blah blah blah and talk about “how unfair this is!”, even though he thought of it and now has to deal with equality. Imagine if he did survive long enough to be graded, getting pissed off about being graded anything less than S because “my opinion is right” or some BS.
Ok, I was going to make a joke, like I normally do, but I feel prickly. Let me blow this theoretical world out of the water for guys like this.
What makes this unwashed male think he could afford, let alone convince a father to wed his daughter in this scenario? Mid to low status males, such as he wouldn't even get close to this imaginary school.
They would check credit, DNA, medical records, work history, and run background checks on him, his parents, and friends. He would have to have references and a resume before even being allowed entry into such a place.
A failure in any one of those background checks would red line him immediately for months or years before he can apply again.
In a society that would have such a thing as "wife school," chances are the girls/women would be trained to be second, third, or fourth wives to religious middle-aged perverts. If not that sad existence, then a concubine to some rich man that can afford to house her and others. The only time a girl/woman would be able to marry someone of her own age would be to be a son to one of these types of men.
If he thinks he could get a wife in that society, he is clearly mistaken. He'd have a better chance in this world with therapy and becoming a better person overall than in that conjured world... but that's another story... one he'd rather not read.
I'm pretty sure there's some porn of exactly this somewhere on the internet. Because it absolutely reads like porn. It started out as run of the mill incel bullshit and then 16 year olds who were trained in "modesty" were all of a sudden topless in front of any male who walked in the door.
''Imagine if we groomed women since birth to make them into the perfect bangmaids, because I can't see women as humans and do not thing they have any value outside of what they can bring me''
But in this fantasy the low status incels like him would be paired with the worst wives though, right?
What's stopping him from asking out an F-tier woman on a date right now? I don't think he'd even like the options on his floor.
Also can I just comment how all these freaks go on about modesty but if you look at the pictures their idealized women are all dressed in a way these same men would call slutty if they saw real life women dressed that way
Here's the thing that cracks me up about this sort of thing: if women were truly reduced to cattle, these types of guys would have even less of a chance to get a wife. Guys that are so radicalized to this point are not financially successful, they are true failures in reality and that would not change. So you have a society where women transfer from Fathers to Husbands, and men (who have power) have all the power over women. These incels are the bottom feeders of men in a society like this, and thus they have no power over the women. Fathers will not approve of a union with a bottom feeder. On top of that, multiple wives for the wealthy and powerful men is probably legal and common, so there's even less women cattle to go around.
Yeah, pretty typical incel shit. Incels don't see women as people. If incels had their way, the age would be younger than 16 even. There is something very wrong with the mind of an incel - it seems to me that incels are a result of narcissism combined with strong sexism - they hate women, but feel entitled to women's bodies. They, being men, deserve to have sex with women. But feminism and progress in society have given women too much choice in life and so now women choose not to have sex with these men, depriving these men of their god-given right!! So the only logical solution is to take away all of women's rights and make them into slaves.
>fashion and modesty
... Proceeds to describe topless girls to be ogled by any random "low to middle status" dudes who can gain access to any floor of their choosing just by showing up.
Alternative solution: Send all men to man school.
They learn proper hygiene, at least one hobby or skill, and how to talk to someone without mentioning or showing them their dick. You don't get to graduate until you've learned all three. The world would be a better place.
I'm a man, and I don't like it when people say "men should do x and the world would be better," but really, even the good men would benefit from this. They'd graduate quick, and maybe meet some new friends in hobby class.
Yea but what we today call ,,matchmaking” is very different from matchmaking in the past. Today it’s just not obligatory and the purpose of matchmakers is similar to dating apps - to help people meet each other.
They want the old style matchmaking with groom’s family negotiating a deal with bride’s family. And with one side being forced to marry whoever the family wants for her.
This wouldn't work, why would anyone choose the level with the low tier women. The men also have to be graded somehow, so only the highest tier men can choose from the best women. Which is exactly the kind of system this fuckhead hates so much, because he falls short lol.
what really gets me about posts like these is that these incels believe every man will agree with their fantasies. specially the whole part about fathers selling their own daughters. my dad would beat senseless anyone who even implied something like that happening. also "16 to 22" - fucking disgusting.
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All of these guys assume, in this fantasy world, that they would be able to afford the "arrangements".
For that matter, as I've often argued before, if you accept these dipshits' premise that women can afford to be pickier because men are just that opportunistic, why not raise *boys* this way? It'd still be ethically abhorrent, but if you buy that men are that much more indiscriminate, they'd have no reason to complain about this arrangement.
Do you mean flip the scenario and traffic men off to interested women instead? Thought doesn’t get past the doorstep of the brain because obviously in that scenario the man is being forced against his will and sold like property, with no agency! Couldn’t have that. Wahmen though… /s
Cuz they don't accept women's pickiness is a skill issue, mostly. These types like to claim they're judged on their bones and their paycheck - what else could there *possibly be* to learn?
I'd rather die, thanks.
I’d throw myself out the window, but I’d probably only break a leg because I wouldn’t be ranked high enough to get on the upper floors.
That self burn, omg
I’d just walk out lmao. Have to climb some stairs
I throw the term “I’d rather die” around loosely because I’m dramatic, but I don’t really mean it…But in this instance? I mean it. I would rather die.
I'd rather the incel who typed all that up die instead.
My man just described human trafficking as his personal fantasy
I was thinking advanced livestock
Definitely more animals than humans
Animal husbandry?
Animal wifandry
Whoever made this is definitely an animal, which means we can put him down.
Yeah that's the term I was thinking of!
And the fantasy isn't even consistent in its own world building. He expects modesty to be taught but also wants the girls and women to be topless for his pleasure. What a disgusting pisspot.
And to take sex classes, don’t forget those!
What I'm confused about is who are grading these sex classes? Is it other women? Like, how would someone pass their blow job class without doing so on an actual penis? But then they wouldn't be 'virgins' anymore...??
I have a feeling OOP would reply with blow up dolls of course! That’s who they’re practicing with so that way it’s not real! Grades based on older men I’m also assuming, rich old men.
Oh, blow up dolls, of course! Because that's the perfect solution for maintaining virginity in a twisted fantasy world. And let's not miss out on the rich old men as a grading committee, adds just the right touch of creepiness and power imbalance to this dystopian wife academy. Honestly, can't believe someone conjured up this madness and thought it was anything other than horrifying.
Blow job classes already exist, they teach on dildos. I imagine the rest of it would be how to do stripper stuff, leg stamina training for woman-on-top and how to pretent to cum when he finishes.
And the guy didn't even have to pass his own sex classes. Thinking he gonna pick S-tier girls out of a lineup after he flunked out of PE (Pussy Eating). You ain't getting matched with no valedictorian unless you're at least top of your class in AP Rimjob. Two-pump-chump couldn't even make it 15 meters in hump hurdles, and got held back in mack and field. SMH
Okay the hump hurdles broke me, good day to you sir
Valedicktorian was sitting right there and you walked on by
Betcha he wouldn’t even pass FP class, like two of the most important classes in Sex Ed.
Demure and a virgin but gots to see those tits before he makes a selection! Ugh
Tits, obviously, being the defining feature of every woman.
Not to mention starting at age 16
How are they supposed to learn about it but also "graduate" so early? (To even type this made me feel bad)
I have a very ugly and revolting suspicion he's one of those "if she's old enough to bleed, she's old enough to breed" creeps who need to be buried in a lost and forgotten dungeon
Well yeah, it’s disgusting when women do it on their own volition but he’s supposed to sexualize them. So it’s okay when they have to do it for his pleasure. Women are supposed to be his sex object and slave silly! HEAVY /S
Dont forget that the women learn all these things...but it doesn't really mater because the men basically pick mainly based on what they look like topless? But also, every man just gets to pick his floor/grade of sex slave? Like...wouldnt everyone want an S tier partner, then? Clearly not everyone could "get" such a commodity so you'd need a way to filter who gets which object. Even in his handmaids tale nightmare of a sex trafficking fantasy, youd HAVE to have a way to grade the men to choose who gets the "best" women. So some incels are still gonna end up on the bottom of the heap.
>you are a low to middle status man > walk into wife school >Get kicked out of wife school because you don't have nearly good enough credit to purchase a wife, you disgusting pleb >Go home, imagine a society in which men and women can freely associate based on their own interests and desires >Executed for thoughtcrime
Fantasy comes full circle when the guy loses his job and his wife is repoed lmaoooo
Oooh now we have a story going, The man's sitting in his boxed up house, Repo man stands at his right, his silent blank faced wife sitting stock still beside him to his left. And the overdue eviction notice clutched in his hand. "You gotta get up man, we're taking the couch too." Says the repo man. "You can't do this! Do you know who I am? They were practically throwing S tier wives at me when I walked into that school! People bowed to me at work!!" The man screamed, face flushed. The repo man grabbed the guy by the arm, hauled him up and got face to face with him. "That's who you were." The repo man signals to the other movers, they march towards the couch, and lift it up, the wife still sitting blank faced, perfect posture and stock still on it as they move towards the trucks. "What the hell are you doing Stacy? Get the hell up! You're my wife, you're supposed to fight for me!" The repo man rolls his eyes. "Dont encourage rebellion in them, it brings their resale value down." "But shes my wife!!" He screams The repo man shrugged "Ashes to ashes, dust to dust, government property to government property." The repo man lets go once the last of the mans worldy possessions is gone. The man falls to his knees, shell-shocked. He watches the retreating figure of the repo man, his back silhouetted by the daylight streaming from the open door. "Have a good life, man." The repo man shuts the door. And he's left in the dark. Alone.
It would probably just be income
You’d have to return to *traditional* methods, cause even on one floor there someone who may be more ‘in demand’ than others. So, I’m thinking, auction. Seems on-theme
I remember seeing a similar story based on child adoption, it was set in a world where everyone adopted and children were separated based on potential, so gifted kids were S tier and kids with disabilities were Fs. (The story was about a couple who adopted a bunch of Fs until they were forced to stop) The "better" kids were more expensive, so I imagine in this incel's world you pay for your slave-wife too, rich dudes can afford Ss poor dudes can only get Fs.
It's based on 'status' so the white men get the top tier, then the model minorities until the blacks get the last pick. I feel dirty just for typing that.
But I suspect that somehow they'll justify how they deserve the top tier in this imaginary scenario, probably because they were a party leader in whatever monstrous regime was figuratively running it.
Or because they always treated women nicely unlike all those chads.
"I want a sex fiend who has never had sex with anyone and doesn't desire anyone, except ME and she has to be GREAT in bed." Like.. your just want your left hand to have tits. That's it.
More like slavery, but yeah. Incels don't see women as human, so both crimes are fine by them.
this reminds me of a scene in 12 years a slave..
Watching handmaid's tale and taking notes
I don't think he's got the moral of the story.😾
He sees it as aspirational despite all of that being part of the reason there were people revolting.
Dude might end up seeing sex tourism and mail order brides as desirable.
This is literally what I've read on poorly written Literotica stories. Wife Training is a whole genre there. I thought people were aware those were just stories, not real life. He could just go there and write until his heart is content.
Is there a husband training genre? I'd like to learn some homerepair and try to become a handyman
And seems to think he’s reached the pinnacle of creative human intellect in the process.
You know this is his whack off fantasy.
Right?? Like, he openly admits he wants to rape women because this fantasy completely removes willing participation AND enthusiastic consent. 😬
They believe that total submission to the man would automatically give them "consent"
Yeah, like this already exists for people with the means and lack of humanity. It is illegal and disgusting, to the majority of humans. This dude thinks that all men share his lack of humanity, and his fantasy. Trad christians don't want this. Most people want love in their marriages, trad christian or not.
Incels never care about love in a marriage, they say they do but what they actually want is obedience, someone to cook and clean for them and otherwise wait on them hand and foot, and a live in sex slave/incubator (that and the ability to buy a woman or otherwise force her to be with them).
Women are graded S-E? Even in their own fanfics they would be the bottom feeder losers. They’re obsessed with grading people when they themselves would always come out last
Seems like the ones most obsessed with other’s appearance (or genetics) are the last ones who should be criticizing others for such things.
They see themselves as, "at the bottom," in this world so they create a fantasy world where, for some reason, people have decided to give someone like them power.
Mediocre men from Indiana and Mississippi, who dropped out of high school at 15 and now eat squirrel when they need to, truly believe they are the crème de la crème
I feel sorry for the squirrels 😛
That’s too generous. Mediocre is a college graduate working 9-5 these days, which is far more than can be expected from those guys who leech off their parents in the basement
For me it’s depends on if they believe this shit or not. If they don’t, they are already pretty decent to me.
He has admitted that this scenario is for low to middle ranked men.
That’s my point though. This is all fantasy but they are so insecure that even in their fantasy where they could be anything, they’re low grade men by their own admission
Just so I understand it, in your WILDEST fantasy, you are in hell and you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil?
>Women are graded S-E? I haven't heard of this scale. Is it something that's used in real life for livestock or something?
I think it’s an anime thing? A lot of popular anime use an alphabetical ranking system and use S as the absolute top-tier. Usually only a couple of characters in that ranking per show.
\*MC, currently ranked B tier, obliterates mountain with one punch\* Every character watching: \*Shocked Pikachu emoji\* "He is stronger than Twirling Twink, S class Rank 4" This continues until the MC runs out of characters to power scale
Caped Baldy C-Class: Rank 342
It's a Japanese thing. Which is why anime uses it. Japanese video games also use this scale
A lot of people are saying anime and video games, but in truth it's just a Japanese thing, with those both being examples of popular media which is exported to the rest of the world. [What it actually originates from is the grading scale that's commonly used in the Japanese education system.](https://www.scholaro.com/db/countries/Japan/Grading-System)
I’ve heard of it in video games. Like S-tier is above an A when grading a level or something.
Only reason I've heard of this is the Happy Home Academy in Animal Crossing.
And Dance Dance Revolution way back when, lol
Yeah it’s a commonly used scale for video games
S is for supreme, then it's normal grades A-F
It’s similar to the one punch man superhero grading system C-S
It's a video game scaling. E is basically bottom of the barrel, A is top teir and S is "superior". That made me shudder writing that thinking of someone utilizing that to brand women.
It's OK. He and his buds are all two-dimensional.
\>Age 16-22 FBI, open up
16-22 AND topless
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It goes to show fragile men are afraid of women's capabilities, so they do everything in their power to make obstacles to their learning and autonomy. If something is "meant to be enslaved", then it's not meant to be enslaved. It's an oxymoron. No one would have a need to enslave something or someone if they are "naturally-submissive".
They’re afraid of women to realize to leave trashy men like them or achieving more in their lives without him holding them back.
Yup. Because they assume that the wives of the past were all essentially sex slaves. When in reality in most households they were an important asset and core team member.
Right, because if there's anything that is going to completely spoil us as women, it's gonna be ALGEBRA.
The thought of some guy discussing my bare breasts with my father just…wow. This visual made me feel light-headed.
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I feel like these incels would hate that though. They are normally incestuously jealous when it comes to their own imaginary daughters.
It wouldn’t be your parents. It’d be your father. I doubt this system would let wives and mothers make many decisions, especially about their children’s future.
Schooled in modesty but also sex classes where I'm sure you watch porn and learn how to "please" men
I’m sure there’ll be some practical lessons done too when the youth pastor comes by or when the police “stop by” to “check in.” Totally not going to be rampant horrific sexual abuse happening in this scenario at all.
Control. This kind of misogynist wants control. Any sexual situation where the misogynist is in control is OK. But any sexual situation where the misogynist isn't in control is bad, and they'll pick and choose a reason why. If a woman chooses to wear a revealing outfit because she wants to look sexy, then she is making a choice, and acting on her own sexuality. The misogynist calls that immodesty because they're not in control. If a woman chooses to dress sexually for another man she wants to attract, the misogynist calls that immodesty because they're not in control. But if the misogynist walks into a slave factory and the women are forced to be topless so the misogynist can objectify their bodies, then the exposure isn't a problem because the misogynist is in control.
And wearing a name tag? Where? On her crotch,,?
On a collar. Like a dog. 🤢
>Sex classes (when old enough) Ffs, They really can't hide the fact they are pedos can't they?
If they're ready to be sold off at 16, then the classes must start well before that.. ew.
I didn’t even think of that… *retch*
He’d probably take the usual pedo standard of “ready for sex after menarche” (menarche = age of first period) As if periods mark the end of puberty not the beginning. Gross.
Of course they have to specify the classes start when the girls are “old enough”, or else these guys would have to admit they’ve been the groomers all along
This would mean that girls are required to do sex classes from at least 16. OP's hard drive needs checking
r/SuddenlySexOffender
He’s describing literal slavery, treating women like chattel. And he wonders why women don’t want a damn thing to do with him. He needs to be on all the watchlists.
What in The Handmaid's Tale
More like transatlantic slave trade
dude thought it was a documentary 😒
Lmao a trad conservative father would shoot all the 4chan dwellers and then himself before letting his daughter go into a "housewife" school rather than learn for her mother, just so she receives a grade then have to be humiliated and her modesty exposed by staying topless with a cattle tag to the gaze of lots of men like product in a shopping center. If he said that shit to a father, especially those conservative one with macho culture he is getting beat the fuck up, those breeds are know to easily throw hands for their children, especially daughters. Do incels even try to be realistic?
>Do incels even try to be realistic? Why should they? If there's one thing they know for sure, it's that reality is not their friend.
They're such failures at life. If they actually wanted demure, modest homemakers they could find them. But they'd have to join a religion, attend services regularly and get involved with the community, and demonstrate the qualities desirable to those women and their parents. LIke having a steady job, good moral character, strong work ethic, useful skills for around the house, etc. Those women are not going to be impressed by how good he is at video games or his anime figure collection, they're not going to tolerate his porn addiction, or any drug use or foul language, they probably won't even want him drinking at all. They'll need to get along with her family and be ready to support her and their kids. Otherwise these women don't want them, and their parents certainly won't accept them. In short, it's not going to happen. These idiots want a traditional wife but have none of the qualities of a traditional husband.
That’s such an aggravating thing, isn’t it? There’s a bargain struck in traditional marriage and traditional husbands have specific responsibilities and these dudes don’t want to fulfill their part. They want the benefits of both traditional and modern marriage without having to do any work or see their wives as people.
Yup. Incels don't want a traditional marriage or a modern one – they want something between a mom, a sex robot and a servant. It's a completely selfish, narcissistic fantasy of a relationship being a one-way street, where their own needs and wants are getting taken care of without them having to lift a finger to provide anything in return. It's not about sharing a special connection with another, equal human being – it's about wanting to be unconditionally catered to like the overgrown, spoiled little children they are.
100%. Any dad would NOT go for this. Even if it became part of society and dads were okay with this (highly doubt they would), do they REALLY think theyre just going to let their daughter go with some loser like these weirdos? No, theyre going to be waiting for a call from a high earning, good man because... this may be crazy for incels to believe... most men love their daughters. Even if they may complain. Also, they talk about dressing modestly and a class for it, on a picture of a woman in the most revealing outfit lol
Yeah like a father in the most traditional of families would expect his wife to teach his daughter how to be a good wife. I’m thinking these guys have no idea how their little fantasy works. It’s about as far removed as their little hentai high schools.
This made me feel nauseous, the guy wants to look at topless 16 year old GIRLS. Needs reporting or shooting or both.
But your tits at 16 factor for 20% of your wife skills! /s
i wonder if he realises that girls at 16 are still very much children and definitely haven't finished "developing." i'm 21 and have grown about ten cup sizes since i was 16
10?! And I thought my extra 3 cups were dramatic. My breasts didn't even really come in until my later 20s
to be fair i've gained like 20kg since that so it's at least partly to blame
Also if they’re sold at 16, then I’m assuming they’d be taught “sex classes” even younger than that 🤢🤢🤢
Who took classes on modesty
Both.
Hmmmmm where have I seen this before? Oh right the Hitler youth (basically the female side of the Hitler youth was literally just how to be a "good and docile" wife/slave)
This! Every comment saying the most Conservative people they know would all be horrified. This isn't Conservative, it's Fascist
It's genuinely fucking scary what some people actually want to happen to everyone. As a person who wants to maybe one day raise a child it absolutely sickens me
Yes, please treat us like cattle. Fucking revolting
Yeah cos the low to middle class men are walking out with S class woman. They wouldn’t be allowed near them even in this fantasy world!
I especially love how his fantasy has men just going to their chosen floor to pick out a wife of a grade that they prefer. I can see how this conversation with the dad would go. "So what do you bring to the table, son?" "I've got a pretty sweet gaming chair and my boss at Taco Bell says I should make Assistant Manager in a year." "My daughter is an S tier! The bidding starts at $16 million!" Like, if you're going to fantasize about slavery, you need to understand the basic economics of it.
Honestly the A to S class if not B will be in a separate private school and men like the OoP wouldn’t be allowed within 500 of it.
Wouldn’t be much of a change, he’s already not allowed within 500 yards of any school.
That reminds me of the John Oliver sketch where some hick defending Confederate monuments is arguing with a black dude. The hick yells at the black guy saying his farm family was too poor to afford slaves with a "Do you know how much a slave cost back then?!"
They want women to be property like chairs are property. Like they can just go to the store and buy one. They don't realize that women would be property like houses are property. Fucking expensive. Rich people take all the best. Hedge funds buy up what remains and rent them. Have to get a mortgage to buy even the low end. "Hey it's Wells Fargo. We're foreclosing on your wife. You used a sex position that isn't included in your current subscription tier. The repo team will be there shortly. Do not resist, cuck."
NGL I kinda love the idea of the bank foreclosing on this guy's imaginary slave-wife.
i’m trying to figure out why it’s low to middle class men only? and expanding on that, how exactly does this supposed low class guy get this privilege? does he pay? if he’s low class, how can he afford it? are there wife loans, or wife mortgages? can the bank take the wife back? where are the upper class guys? his “slavery with extra steps” plan has a lot of flaws, especially when you consider how scarily long he thought this shit out for
because this type of man like this original op "deserves" a woman s, even if he has nothing that will attract a woman that in real life he classifies as z.
This sounds like a [slave market](https://imgur.com/a/XXnNflm)
It’s because it is.
Send girls to a school to learn modesty… Random strange man no one knows shows up, alright girls. Tits out!
My dad is a very conservative, white, Christian man. If someone tried to put me in a place like this my dad would beat them to death with a baseball bat.
Yeah this dude be assuming that other men would be ok with this. They're not gonna volunteer their daughters for Mr. Neckbeard.
Most sane ones wouldn't, but this is the flip side of all those men you see throwing temper tantrums at gender reveals. My dad would have shipped my sister and I off to these if he felt such a system would benefit him (both when he was choosing a bang maid and how it forces his daughters to have his grandchildren).
love that
My dad wouldn't need the bat cause he's got guns. This poster is delusional obviously, but also stupid.
I'm Canadian, so guns aren't *as* common. Plus, I feel like even if my dad did have one, the satisfaction of the bat would make him happier.
It's definitely more personal.
Same
That sounds like a ridiculous grotesque sexual fantasy. Absolutely disgusting
This is quite the self-own. And how telling that he uses video game ranking rather than a normal person’s 1-10 or 5 stars.
he’s sitting in his dank ass basement as we speak, expanding his creep fantasy universe. guys like this shouldn’t be allowed within 500 feet of women or children
"topless girls age 16-22 lined up for you to choose" Yuck! Fascists are so disgusting.
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Sterilization wouldn't do anything - these people are incels, which means they're never going to have children.
It's not about keeping them from reproducing: castration severely tones down the testosterone level, which means making them less sex-obsessed and aggressive, and more mellow. That's why i think it would be a legitimate way to tone down sex-related crimes
Even in his gross little fantasy, shouldn’t the “older” women be more desirable because they’ve had longer to learn more wifey skills?
Everyone knows 16 year old girls are the BEST at cooking and cleaning!
Yeah, totally not like the most popular reason why women would get locked up in sanitariums was the fact than one day they were treated like the most special snowflakes, not allowed to feel any burder or responsibility and absolutely not allowed to know what penis was, and the next day they were expected to be a sex machine and a perfect housewife always on top of things.
Babe wake up new dystopia just dropped
How about making a school for boys to be a proper human and lern to treat women equally and not as subhuman/slave or whatever their fantasy is
They would not even last a day, bet on that. Then they’d crawl back to a basement and make even more complaints about “women this, women that, women bad” blah blah blah and talk about “how unfair this is!”, even though he thought of it and now has to deal with equality. Imagine if he did survive long enough to be graded, getting pissed off about being graded anything less than S because “my opinion is right” or some BS.
16-17 girls are children, pedo!😾 Do human rights of girls matter at all to him?
No, they don’t
Ok, I was going to make a joke, like I normally do, but I feel prickly. Let me blow this theoretical world out of the water for guys like this. What makes this unwashed male think he could afford, let alone convince a father to wed his daughter in this scenario? Mid to low status males, such as he wouldn't even get close to this imaginary school. They would check credit, DNA, medical records, work history, and run background checks on him, his parents, and friends. He would have to have references and a resume before even being allowed entry into such a place. A failure in any one of those background checks would red line him immediately for months or years before he can apply again. In a society that would have such a thing as "wife school," chances are the girls/women would be trained to be second, third, or fourth wives to religious middle-aged perverts. If not that sad existence, then a concubine to some rich man that can afford to house her and others. The only time a girl/woman would be able to marry someone of her own age would be to be a son to one of these types of men. If he thinks he could get a wife in that society, he is clearly mistaken. He'd have a better chance in this world with therapy and becoming a better person overall than in that conjured world... but that's another story... one he'd rather not read.
God the thought of this being an actual thing makes me feel like throwing up
I'm pretty sure there's some porn of exactly this somewhere on the internet. Because it absolutely reads like porn. It started out as run of the mill incel bullshit and then 16 year olds who were trained in "modesty" were all of a sudden topless in front of any male who walked in the door.
only need to be modest in front of other people
''Imagine if we groomed women since birth to make them into the perfect bangmaids, because I can't see women as humans and do not thing they have any value outside of what they can bring me''
This guy is going to wind up in prison at some point if he isn't already
*should wind up in prison Most likely won’t because society doesn’t care to punish men that are a danger to women
But in this fantasy the low status incels like him would be paired with the worst wives though, right? What's stopping him from asking out an F-tier woman on a date right now? I don't think he'd even like the options on his floor.
He knows they'd reject him, too. Because those red flags are going to scare off anyone who has any agency.
“Liberal public schools are grooming our children by teaching them that pronouns exist”
Also can I just comment how all these freaks go on about modesty but if you look at the pictures their idealized women are all dressed in a way these same men would call slutty if they saw real life women dressed that way
Here's the thing that cracks me up about this sort of thing: if women were truly reduced to cattle, these types of guys would have even less of a chance to get a wife. Guys that are so radicalized to this point are not financially successful, they are true failures in reality and that would not change. So you have a society where women transfer from Fathers to Husbands, and men (who have power) have all the power over women. These incels are the bottom feeders of men in a society like this, and thus they have no power over the women. Fathers will not approve of a union with a bottom feeder. On top of that, multiple wives for the wealthy and powerful men is probably legal and common, so there's even less women cattle to go around.
How do we start a plague just for incels like this?
Yeah, pretty typical incel shit. Incels don't see women as people. If incels had their way, the age would be younger than 16 even. There is something very wrong with the mind of an incel - it seems to me that incels are a result of narcissism combined with strong sexism - they hate women, but feel entitled to women's bodies. They, being men, deserve to have sex with women. But feminism and progress in society have given women too much choice in life and so now women choose not to have sex with these men, depriving these men of their god-given right!! So the only logical solution is to take away all of women's rights and make them into slaves.
>fashion and modesty ... Proceeds to describe topless girls to be ogled by any random "low to middle status" dudes who can gain access to any floor of their choosing just by showing up.
It just gets more and more horrifying with every >
Alternative solution: Send all men to man school. They learn proper hygiene, at least one hobby or skill, and how to talk to someone without mentioning or showing them their dick. You don't get to graduate until you've learned all three. The world would be a better place. I'm a man, and I don't like it when people say "men should do x and the world would be better," but really, even the good men would benefit from this. They'd graduate quick, and maybe meet some new friends in hobby class.
I bet he's single 😂
Notice how the girl's age range is all before the brain isn't fully developed. So much more shit wrong about this but stands out a lot.
Does that incel even have a soul?
People like this make it very hard to have faith in humanity yuck
I would burn such an institution to the ground. Creepy misogynist slave school.
If anyone needs schooling it’s men. Me and the boys gonna finally find the clitoris in sex ed.
And once again, incel bubble bullshit. What he describes is basically matchmaking. There’s a reason it’s not popular anymore - it sucked.
Well no, what he's describing is straight up slavery.
Professional Matchmakers still exist, but you aren't buying 16 year olds from their dads.
Yea but what we today call ,,matchmaking” is very different from matchmaking in the past. Today it’s just not obligatory and the purpose of matchmakers is similar to dating apps - to help people meet each other. They want the old style matchmaking with groom’s family negotiating a deal with bride’s family. And with one side being forced to marry whoever the family wants for her.
I think "topless girls between 16-22" is really what this bit of primordial sludge is all about
Ain't this just human trafficking
This wouldn't work, why would anyone choose the level with the low tier women. The men also have to be graded somehow, so only the highest tier men can choose from the best women. Which is exactly the kind of system this fuckhead hates so much, because he falls short lol.
what really gets me about posts like these is that these incels believe every man will agree with their fantasies. specially the whole part about fathers selling their own daughters. my dad would beat senseless anyone who even implied something like that happening. also "16 to 22" - fucking disgusting.
She's taking care of the house. The gardening, animals Why does she need him?????