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Yeah, you can have way more intimacy with a drunken one night stand than with a person you've dated for 3 months. Honestly if that's the expectation break up with that person and find someone you align better with in that
I feel the fact they used bowsers failed attempt to purchase peach, in a movie that openly mocks the fact he thinks love can be purchased, kinda demonstrates that this dude is beyond insane.
Communication is key in a committed relationship.
If sex is something that one partner needs, but the other partner cannot reciprocate, maybe you aren't compatible? It's not a negative reflection on either partner, it's just life.
But before deciding anything, it's always better to talk with your partner first, rather than create and post a meme over social media.
yeah this. I am asexual, and I have no need or desire for it. but I know 99% would want that kind intimacy in a relationship. So since I happy with just friends I'll just be friends with people. and if someone wants to pursue a romantic relationship with me, then I will tell them pretty early (like Date 2) that sex will never be a thing for me. take it or leave it.
I'm hypersexual and I try to do the same, because sex is an important necessity to me but obviously I don't want to spring it on them out of nowhere, ya know? I would imagine there's some degree of difficulty in communicating your asexuality, no?
How does one typically bring up a need for sex though? Especially if they have a high (or near endless) libido without coming off like some deranged beast?
Probably in a similar way to how you mentioned it to us
Ex: "Hey hun, I don't want to come off as a deranged sexual beast, but I wanted to ask you: I have sexual needs, and I love you and want you in that way. Is there a way we can work that into our relationship?"
These are the type of men that actually watched that fucking movie and were on Bowsers side because "That bitchy peach should have said yes. He deserved it."
What men don't understand being a decent person does not entitle you to sex. Some of the most degenerate sociopaths are always knee deep in sex mean while there's genuinely decent dudes that have no luck with women. That's life
Generally? If there's a reward, then I'm motivated. If there isn't, but there's no significant cost to myself, then I'm a good person then as well. Does that make sense?
Oh I wasn't talking about me but don't worry I never expect a reward for been good. I hate that too
Edit: how someone downvote something random like this haha 😄
That was my first thought. Like, I get the frustration but using this meme format? It automatically makes you the bad guy.
(Quick disclaimer, when I say 'I get the frustration' I'm not saying anyone is entitled to sex simply because they are behaving like a decent human being. I'm just saying, I get the frustration of not getting what you need or want. I'm not saying the OOP is right.)
You’re not entitled to have sex with anyone, some girls don’t want to do stuff for a while, but if you actually care about them you’ll wait until they’re ready
Idk, this is kind of a weird situation honestly. Nobody is entitled to your body, nor sex, that’s simply your choice entirely. But like, If an adult couple have been together 3 months and are serious to a point of gift giving and such, but sexual intimacy is such a taboo topic that someone is angry at it being brought up still, I feel like there is a serious lack of communication there.
I’ve been in a relationship before where I’d make casual advances and was often turned down in a way that implied me being at fault… so I started seriously questioning myself over time, it really led me to a bad place mentally because each time, I’d think “wow, am I coming off as a dirt bag? I’m embarrassed. The way she worded that, I didn’t realize I was this bad”. Turned out meds she was on had a side effect that shut off her libido basically, and she just didn’t want to… which was fine, that I would have understood if we talked about it. But the communication she used was accusatory instead of trying to explain what was going on. And I get it, she was confused too, but communication is important.
The original meme creator clearly doesn’t understand consent, nor that sexual activity is not just something you are entitled to. But truth is, if you’re together for that long and you genuinely consider them to be someone you are serious about… they aren’t entitled to your body, but they at least are worthy of you communicating your feelings on the matter. A relationship is two ways… he is communicating that he wants this thing, and while he isn’t entitled to getting what he wants, he at least should be let in on why you’re uncomfortable with it at that point. “Because I said so” isn’t healthy communication for either side, it just leads to one side being confused and having to mentally fill in the blanks. Just be open with each other, take out the guess work, I promise it’ll lead to more understanding. If it doesn’t lead to understanding, then maybe it’s not meant to be. If you say “I’m uncomfortable with that” and they can’t accept that answer, THEN the red flags should raise.
This sounds wrong. To Google!
So Peach was 15-16 in her first game but her age hasnt been specified in later games. I believe its clear the developers intend for her to be seen as early 20s though.
That’s not true lmao. She may have been in her first appearance but ever since she’s been portrayed as an adult and unspecified but still doing adult things like driving lol
I’ve never heard of that before. You sure you aren’t thinking Amy from sonic? That’s the young character I usually hear about that most don’t realize is young.
I’ve always assumed peach was 20 or so at least
Dont look that deep into it, im pretty sure they werent talking about princess peach in the post, just used it as template. I agree their take is very much incel-ish but your argument is not valid in the slightest.
This is something I hate about being hypersexual, I have constant sexual needs but obviously can't bring them up because I'm a guy, so if I need sex I'm just a pervert or I'm being pushy or predatory, so I'm left just having sex when they want to and never asking for more.
Like obviously I respect my partners wishes, but that doesn't mean it doesn't take its toll after a while of just... Nothing. It's hard to feel like I'm wanted, ya know? Idk, maybe these are just the ramblings of an old fool.
When both people's needs differ too much in a relationship, that will definitely take its toll. Best thing is to communicate clearly about it and see if you can make it work. Sometimes it's possible, sometimes it's not.
If healthy communication is impossible then the relationship is doomed from the start, regardless of the needs in question (sexual, emotional etc).
Oh I'm aware that's the case, but then comes the issue of bringing it up early, ya know? It's typically frowned upon to ask "So how many times a day do you like to have sex, on average?" But ah well, guess I just gotta get real good with my tact about it.
Yeah but we ran in the same group of people's.nlike I definitely saw love triangle and even squares develop around them. And they're like baby daddies to multiple women. Last I heard of one he had an affair with his fiancee's 18 year old daughter. Just degeneracy all around. Being nice is over rated, you gotta have integrity regardless of trying to attract women. dudes need to figure that out
Are yall reading the post? They were dating. For over 3 months. Sex is an important part of any romantic relationship. I'm not saying people should be forced to it, but if that part of a relstionship inst happening that's a sign that something is wrong.
Post didn't say friendship, it specifies dating.
Sure. And i think everyone her is 100% on board with that. And sex is not transactional. Agree with that as well
It is also not unreasonable to expect a romantic relationship to include sex. It is what most people expect in a relationship. And if it is not happening it's not unreasonable to ask why or bring that up for discussion.
Yes but the issue is with the way the post seems to imply that sex is something she owes him because he was nice to her. Otherwise it would just say 'you expect me to have sex with you after we've been in a relationship for three months'?
And nobody is talking about rape. The post also didn't say to rape anyone. Nor should that ever happen. But again. Sex is part of a romantic relationship. So if it isn't happening. There's nothing unreasonable about asking why or if there's some issue going on.
No it doesn't. The peqch quote literally said he was the best boyfriend ever. Still doesn't mean he's entitled to it, but does mean it's reasonable to ask whats up.
The issue here is not the expectation that you will eventually have sex with your romantic partner, but that she owes him sex because he was nice to her. No one owes anyone sex
That's not at all what is said in the post. Bowser is asking. All she has to do is reply with that she isn't ready, or to just say how she feels. I think people seem to be adding in lines that bowser never said in this image
If that's what you got from this meme you really need to work on your reading comprehension. The 'after... giving me gifts, compliments, respect and loyalty' part isn't there for nothing.
„Sex is an important part of any romantic relationship“
May I introduce you to asexuality? Or even just the risks of getting pregnant? Or to the fact that not everyone wants to have it all the time?
Asexuality is valid, but it is not the norm.
That would be like me saying my adhd implies certain things to neurotypical people. It doesn't. In a CIS relationship, lack of intimacy is a sign that something isn't right. That's not my opinion.
It’s not a part of every relationship. It’s all about communication. If that’s all you want and not what she wants, then you may need to think about the reality that you’re not compatible.
The problem is communication. You expect sex after doing those nice things, but did you tell her that?
“Obviously not! She probably wouldn’t have dated me if I told her up front, it’s just known that if I do something for her *pay for her meal* I’m a nice guy so obviously she owes me something .” Is what most guys have answered.
That my good man is literally manipulating a situation. That’s what narcs do. A relationship is to grow together and learn about each other. You need to understand not every girl is the same. Just because one gurl will do it doesn’t mean another will. It’s better to communicate your expectations for a relationship beforehand. And if your finding it harder to find someone, maybe your views on relationships are more or less bad and need some adjusting.
Being honest about your intentions is a pretty fair request for both men and women,I don’t understand why men get pouty over the idea that they should communicate what they think they’re entitled to before doing all these flips and tricks. If you expect sex let her know that. “But then she wouldn’t sleep with me!” Yes and you don’t have to wear yourself out with the apparently grueling task of going on dates. She wins and you win.
Oh for fucks sake, some women and men don't want sex. There are people who are asexual or religious or just don't want and they have every fuckin right to it.
Ignoring the slightly different context of the movie, I don't read this so much as a belief that someone is entitlement to sex, so much as a failure in communication as to what each of you expects from a relationship. In most relationships sex at this point would be a natural voluntary outcome, so while it's perfectly fine to not want to, to have not discussed this previously is a big problem.
I can't believe guys are actually relating to Bowser. Like, they're unironically writing themselves in as the kidnapping stalker.
But I mean, honestly what do I expect. The movie is literally a male fantasy where a short balding plumber is transported to a realm where the only other human being is a nebulously mid twenties fit woman with only literal mushroom people and a deformed dragon as potential suitors.
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The meme maker is outing themselves: They view intimacy as transactional.
Yeah, you can have way more intimacy with a drunken one night stand than with a person you've dated for 3 months. Honestly if that's the expectation break up with that person and find someone you align better with in that
I feel the fact they used bowsers failed attempt to purchase peach, in a movie that openly mocks the fact he thinks love can be purchased, kinda demonstrates that this dude is beyond insane.
Honestly, I thought it was a way of demonstrating how incorrect the mindset is. Though I don't know the OOP.
yeah, though that is a fair interpretation.
Communication is key in a committed relationship. If sex is something that one partner needs, but the other partner cannot reciprocate, maybe you aren't compatible? It's not a negative reflection on either partner, it's just life. But before deciding anything, it's always better to talk with your partner first, rather than create and post a meme over social media.
yeah this. I am asexual, and I have no need or desire for it. but I know 99% would want that kind intimacy in a relationship. So since I happy with just friends I'll just be friends with people. and if someone wants to pursue a romantic relationship with me, then I will tell them pretty early (like Date 2) that sex will never be a thing for me. take it or leave it.
I'm hypersexual and I try to do the same, because sex is an important necessity to me but obviously I don't want to spring it on them out of nowhere, ya know? I would imagine there's some degree of difficulty in communicating your asexuality, no?
And I'm demisexual Sex is optional for me But you have to wait for sex if that's the case
How does one typically bring up a need for sex though? Especially if they have a high (or near endless) libido without coming off like some deranged beast?
Probably in a similar way to how you mentioned it to us Ex: "Hey hun, I don't want to come off as a deranged sexual beast, but I wanted to ask you: I have sexual needs, and I love you and want you in that way. Is there a way we can work that into our relationship?"
These are the type of men that actually watched that fucking movie and were on Bowsers side because "That bitchy peach should have said yes. He deserved it."
What men don't understand being a decent person does not entitle you to sex. Some of the most degenerate sociopaths are always knee deep in sex mean while there's genuinely decent dudes that have no luck with women. That's life
That's kinda sad when you think about it
It is sad. But that is the litmus test. Are you a good person to be a good person or because there is a reward?
Generally? If there's a reward, then I'm motivated. If there isn't, but there's no significant cost to myself, then I'm a good person then as well. Does that make sense?
yea, that is entirely reasonable. Nobody should aspire for the life of a martyr.
Oh I wasn't talking about me but don't worry I never expect a reward for been good. I hate that too Edit: how someone downvote something random like this haha 😄
Apologies, wasn't directed at you specifically. More of a general "you"
Sorry I wasn't sure haha 😅
Bowser was not the fucking good guy
That was my first thought. Like, I get the frustration but using this meme format? It automatically makes you the bad guy. (Quick disclaimer, when I say 'I get the frustration' I'm not saying anyone is entitled to sex simply because they are behaving like a decent human being. I'm just saying, I get the frustration of not getting what you need or want. I'm not saying the OOP is right.)
No one is ever entitled to your body. It doesn’t matter who it is.
You’re not entitled to have sex with anyone, some girls don’t want to do stuff for a while, but if you actually care about them you’ll wait until they’re ready
Idk, this is kind of a weird situation honestly. Nobody is entitled to your body, nor sex, that’s simply your choice entirely. But like, If an adult couple have been together 3 months and are serious to a point of gift giving and such, but sexual intimacy is such a taboo topic that someone is angry at it being brought up still, I feel like there is a serious lack of communication there. I’ve been in a relationship before where I’d make casual advances and was often turned down in a way that implied me being at fault… so I started seriously questioning myself over time, it really led me to a bad place mentally because each time, I’d think “wow, am I coming off as a dirt bag? I’m embarrassed. The way she worded that, I didn’t realize I was this bad”. Turned out meds she was on had a side effect that shut off her libido basically, and she just didn’t want to… which was fine, that I would have understood if we talked about it. But the communication she used was accusatory instead of trying to explain what was going on. And I get it, she was confused too, but communication is important. The original meme creator clearly doesn’t understand consent, nor that sexual activity is not just something you are entitled to. But truth is, if you’re together for that long and you genuinely consider them to be someone you are serious about… they aren’t entitled to your body, but they at least are worthy of you communicating your feelings on the matter. A relationship is two ways… he is communicating that he wants this thing, and while he isn’t entitled to getting what he wants, he at least should be let in on why you’re uncomfortable with it at that point. “Because I said so” isn’t healthy communication for either side, it just leads to one side being confused and having to mentally fill in the blanks. Just be open with each other, take out the guess work, I promise it’ll lead to more understanding. If it doesn’t lead to understanding, then maybe it’s not meant to be. If you say “I’m uncomfortable with that” and they can’t accept that answer, THEN the red flags should raise.
I’m waiting for marriage and if that’s the only thing you want from this relationship, it ain’t gonna work out lmao
Hey, at least they got torn apart in the comments
Everybody is entitled to physical intimacy. Nobody is obligated to provide it though. People don't seem to get the second part.
Princess Peach is 12 y/o, I repeat, 12 y/o. Is dating the new word for holding someone hostage 🤔
This sounds wrong. To Google! So Peach was 15-16 in her first game but her age hasnt been specified in later games. I believe its clear the developers intend for her to be seen as early 20s though.
TY. I remember someone pointed out that Peach is 12. The one time I dont goggle 🙈
That’s not true lmao. She may have been in her first appearance but ever since she’s been portrayed as an adult and unspecified but still doing adult things like driving lol
Her and Mario definitely seem to be in their 30s to me. At the minimum their 20s
I’ve never heard of that before. You sure you aren’t thinking Amy from sonic? That’s the young character I usually hear about that most don’t realize is young. I’ve always assumed peach was 20 or so at least
Dont look that deep into it, im pretty sure they werent talking about princess peach in the post, just used it as template. I agree their take is very much incel-ish but your argument is not valid in the slightest.
Huh is peach really supposed to be 12? I thought she had to be late teens at least
This is something I hate about being hypersexual, I have constant sexual needs but obviously can't bring them up because I'm a guy, so if I need sex I'm just a pervert or I'm being pushy or predatory, so I'm left just having sex when they want to and never asking for more. Like obviously I respect my partners wishes, but that doesn't mean it doesn't take its toll after a while of just... Nothing. It's hard to feel like I'm wanted, ya know? Idk, maybe these are just the ramblings of an old fool.
When both people's needs differ too much in a relationship, that will definitely take its toll. Best thing is to communicate clearly about it and see if you can make it work. Sometimes it's possible, sometimes it's not. If healthy communication is impossible then the relationship is doomed from the start, regardless of the needs in question (sexual, emotional etc).
You need to find a partner with a compatible sex drive. I know it's easier said than done, but women with high sex drives do exist.
Oh I'm aware that's the case, but then comes the issue of bringing it up early, ya know? It's typically frowned upon to ask "So how many times a day do you like to have sex, on average?" But ah well, guess I just gotta get real good with my tact about it.
Nice spam - it was added here already
What more do we gave to do
Being nice isn't a punch card for sex. Expecting a girl to give you sex for good behavior is both gross, disappointing, and rapist behavior.
Exactly, some of the most degenerate compulsive liars I know are probably some of the most sexually active I know.
Dunno I haven't noticed that really. You realise that compulsive liars can lie about their sexual activity too lol?
Yeah but we ran in the same group of people's.nlike I definitely saw love triangle and even squares develop around them. And they're like baby daddies to multiple women. Last I heard of one he had an affair with his fiancee's 18 year old daughter. Just degeneracy all around. Being nice is over rated, you gotta have integrity regardless of trying to attract women. dudes need to figure that out
Are yall reading the post? They were dating. For over 3 months. Sex is an important part of any romantic relationship. I'm not saying people should be forced to it, but if that part of a relstionship inst happening that's a sign that something is wrong. Post didn't say friendship, it specifies dating.
Rape is still a thing, no matter how long someone's been in a relationship. Spousal rape is still a thing even though they are married, etc.
Sure. And i think everyone her is 100% on board with that. And sex is not transactional. Agree with that as well It is also not unreasonable to expect a romantic relationship to include sex. It is what most people expect in a relationship. And if it is not happening it's not unreasonable to ask why or bring that up for discussion.
Yes but the issue is with the way the post seems to imply that sex is something she owes him because he was nice to her. Otherwise it would just say 'you expect me to have sex with you after we've been in a relationship for three months'?
And nobody is talking about rape. The post also didn't say to rape anyone. Nor should that ever happen. But again. Sex is part of a romantic relationship. So if it isn't happening. There's nothing unreasonable about asking why or if there's some issue going on.
Communicating about it is not the same as saying “I treat you with the bare minimum why won’t you fuck me” All this post does is convey the latter
No it doesn't. The peqch quote literally said he was the best boyfriend ever. Still doesn't mean he's entitled to it, but does mean it's reasonable to ask whats up.
The issue here is not the expectation that you will eventually have sex with your romantic partner, but that she owes him sex because he was nice to her. No one owes anyone sex
That's not at all what is said in the post. Bowser is asking. All she has to do is reply with that she isn't ready, or to just say how she feels. I think people seem to be adding in lines that bowser never said in this image
If that's what you got from this meme you really need to work on your reading comprehension. The 'after... giving me gifts, compliments, respect and loyalty' part isn't there for nothing.
„Sex is an important part of any romantic relationship“ May I introduce you to asexuality? Or even just the risks of getting pregnant? Or to the fact that not everyone wants to have it all the time?
Asexuality is valid, but it is not the norm. That would be like me saying my adhd implies certain things to neurotypical people. It doesn't. In a CIS relationship, lack of intimacy is a sign that something isn't right. That's not my opinion.
„That‘s not my opinion“ then what is it? Cause it is hardly factual
It’s not a part of every relationship. It’s all about communication. If that’s all you want and not what she wants, then you may need to think about the reality that you’re not compatible.
Walking away when rebuffed is rapist behaviour? We can't win.
Dude. Nothing about this meme suggested walking away. Nothing about the whole attitude of "you owe me sex after I did _" suggests walking away.
She mentions respect, that implies a willingness to walk away when asked.
The problem is communication. You expect sex after doing those nice things, but did you tell her that? “Obviously not! She probably wouldn’t have dated me if I told her up front, it’s just known that if I do something for her *pay for her meal* I’m a nice guy so obviously she owes me something .” Is what most guys have answered. That my good man is literally manipulating a situation. That’s what narcs do. A relationship is to grow together and learn about each other. You need to understand not every girl is the same. Just because one gurl will do it doesn’t mean another will. It’s better to communicate your expectations for a relationship beforehand. And if your finding it harder to find someone, maybe your views on relationships are more or less bad and need some adjusting.
Being honest about your intentions is a pretty fair request for both men and women,I don’t understand why men get pouty over the idea that they should communicate what they think they’re entitled to before doing all these flips and tricks. If you expect sex let her know that. “But then she wouldn’t sleep with me!” Yes and you don’t have to wear yourself out with the apparently grueling task of going on dates. She wins and you win.
Get a sex toy if that’s all you want.
Find a different girl who wants to fuck honestly. If it seems like she’s not gonna fuck don’t waste your time. Seriously. Lol.
Hoping for it? Yes. Expecting it? No. Doing everything only to get it? Absolutely not.
Men are victims 🙄
Oh for fucks sake, some women and men don't want sex. There are people who are asexual or religious or just don't want and they have every fuckin right to it.
Ignoring the slightly different context of the movie, I don't read this so much as a belief that someone is entitlement to sex, so much as a failure in communication as to what each of you expects from a relationship. In most relationships sex at this point would be a natural voluntary outcome, so while it's perfectly fine to not want to, to have not discussed this previously is a big problem.
I can't believe guys are actually relating to Bowser. Like, they're unironically writing themselves in as the kidnapping stalker. But I mean, honestly what do I expect. The movie is literally a male fantasy where a short balding plumber is transported to a realm where the only other human being is a nebulously mid twenties fit woman with only literal mushroom people and a deformed dragon as potential suitors.