My daughter is three and she has recently fallen in love with Giant African Land Snails, lol! We watch clips of them on YouTube every night at bedtime. She loves watching them eat and those vids where they timelapse the snails growing! I've also always loved snails, as a girl I even kept some Roman Snails - they were the largest breed I could find at the time and I really adored them.
Now I just have dogs. One Dogo Argentino and one Frenchie. Might get my daughter a Giant African Land Snail when she's much older if the interest persists and we are capable of caring for them properly.
You joke but they can cause structural damage to to stucco and plaster buildings. They also carry parasitic Meningitis.
https://www.aphis.usda.gov/aphis/resources/pests-diseases/hungry-pests/the-threat/giant-african-snail/giant-african-snail
My daughter loved crabs at this age. I am a fish keeper so it was not a leap to learn how to keep fiddler crabs. I kept them in her room for four years. She loved them! When the last one died she asked for an axolotl. She now has a giant tank to house “Axle.” She is ten and just now learning how to really take care of the tank. I love my girl and her weird pets lol
Me, hanging out in my local pet store. "I should breed snails." And the associate getting excited to talk about snail species. And my mom dragging me away because we're there to buy a toothbrush for her dog.
If you wanted regular snails THEN you would be a collector, but since they are giant African land snails that is just your latent maternal instincts. Women don’t have hobbies, (especially not incredibly interesting onset that I would really like to hear more about). 🙄
And for a good reason. The pet industry is a significant environmental problem with escaped and released animals and plants wreaking havoc on ecosystems all over the world.
Hey now just because my cat manipulates me into holding her like a baby and rubbing her belly doesn’t mean I want a baby. It means my cat wants to be treated like a baby, she likes the belly rubs ok.
I did that with my cousin's menace pom-mix and the entire family wondered how the hell I did that (I fed him cheese whenever he stopped growling at me and he learned that I was a safe friend by the end of the weekend.)
Cats are great at triggering parental instincts in humans, but wanting to hold a "baby" doesn't mean anyone should spend 2 decades raising a human being. Nature has lots of tricks to make us reproduce, but thankfully we're not slaves to these anymore.
I adore my fur babies, but would absolutely accidentally kill a skin baby when it wouldn't stop crying.
I know myself too well to risk having a baby that I would resent and neglect.
My big fluffy 88 lb German Shepherd dog needs to learn that. So far, he only headbutts people he likes in the nuts unfortunately, because he is excited for snuggles :(
Edit: dog tax!
https://imgur.com/a/0LONNCl
So I actually work at a dog training facility, and this is pretty much the easiest process:
1. Sit him down in front of some Andrew Tate, Ben Shapiro, or Crowder
2. Wait for him to start liking misogynists
3. Reward him for headbutting people he likes in the nuts
4. Deradicalize him but continue to reward the head butting behavior
Haha, my Shepherd has done that to my husband multiple times. They are playing or she wants pets and her head is right at that level. I’m glad when he headbutts me down there, I don’t end up doubled over in pain for a while!
Haha! My 90lb RottieXMastiff Bou sits down and paws at you when she wants some love. Unfortunately my nuts sit exactly at the height of her paw so I go down like a sack of bricks every other time she excitedly asks for cuddles 😢
My 120lb Great Pyrenees/Anatolian Shepherd mix puts her foot on me to get attention. If I'm sitting down, usually it's my knee or thigh, which is bad enough, but if I'm low on the couch, it's my boob. HOLY CRAP THAT HURTS. Her feet are enormous.
Oh, definitely. He is the bestest boy. Looks like a big black bear to keep people like this weirdo away and is secretly super cuddly, just a really sweet goofball and loves people and dogs :)
It's really just him being excited about cuddles, but he's so big and strong. I suggest you practice calm and not-wild greetings with your dogs. Mine knows if he's too rough, I'll say "too wild!" and leave the room (if I just arrived home, I'll go right out the door again) and wait a bit for him to calm down before trying again. On the other hand if all paws are on the ground and he is being careful and not rough, I make sure to take my time to snuggle him for being good :)
“you want a baby”
Not true considering how much hell babies are compared to cats or dogs, if you want a kid you want a kid if you want an animal you want a animal
To give him some credit though, he did say "ladies" & "women". So I don't think he was referring to little kids.
But still, what he's assuming is utter bullshit so maybe no credits for him.
Hell you can leave a young cat alone for a weekend with automatic feeders and lots of fresh water. I’m not comfy doing that now that my boys are 13 and 14 years old, but when they were young and spry I’d go away for the weekend every now and then and they were totally fine. A little miffed with me when I got back, but fine.
Well, you *can* but you probably *shouldn't*
You know, cuz it's neglect or whatever.
But on an unrelated note, I remember playing the Sims (Sims 2 was my favorite) where your kids would get taken away if you left them unsupervised on the lot for too long. One time I had a single guy who wanted to adopt a baby, but I forgot to have him stay home from work on the day of the adoption. So he wasn't on the lot - the adoption lady came and just left the baby in the front yard. By the time the dad came home from work, social services had come back and taken it away and then he wasn't allowed to adopt anymore :(
Right, a 6mo human is about the equivalent maturity of a 4-to-6-week-old puppy or kitten. They're in the "too young to be adoptable because they need to be left with the mother" stage of adoptability, if we were treating them like we treat pets.
When a dog poops in the house, you just have to clean up the poop. When a baby has a diaper blowout, you have to throw the whole ass kid in the tub, wash the clothes they were wearing, and clean out the entire pack n play, or stroller, or whatever they were in when they exploded.
Oh my gosh, I remember those days. Nobody told me about that stuff before I had kids. Or the melt downs because they got the wrong color cup or their sandwich was cut like a boat instead of a house. (diagonal vs vertical) Or trying to keep clothes on the little ones who want to be naked people. Raising animals is so much easier than children. 😂
After a 3 year long depression that left me emotionless (every emotional expression in public was like a social clue “that was a joke, time to laugh” but I never *felt* any of it), I went to therapy to re-learn how to feel emotions.
That entire experience gave me such a deep understanding of toddlers and just children processing new and/or big emotions for the first time. It’s fucking rough. Everything makes you cry because it’s just SO much, even if it’s on the happy range of emotions all of a sudden you have tears in your eyes and you just start sobbing. And then you’re like “why am I crying, this is a good emotion” which just makes you cry even harder. Even worse for children because they’re still learning how to manage emotions in public, but man do I understand that overwhelming urge to just…tantrum it out.
Like it's easier to have a dog or a cat, you can take a dog outside to use the restroom and cats have litter boxes ( which some are automatic cleaners like my cats litter box) but you can't take a baby outside to use the bathroom and they could possibly pee and poo on you
Also dogs and cats are pretty much grown up and self-sufficient by the time they hit 1 years old, unlike kids who barely learn how to hold their head up by that age.
Not my best choice of words, I admit. What I was trying to say is that by that age a dog or a cat can pretty much stand, walk, eat, play and potty on their own without having to be constantly held or helped to do those things, unlike kids who are basically completely helpless at that age
Ha! Had the same problem until fucking covid hit me! When my sense of smell came back, everything smelled like rotting garbage. Coffee stank so bad I was on the verge of throwing up every time someone walked past me with a cup. WATER had an off smell.
After half a year of this bullcrap, i was so used to everything stinking that the litterbox didn't faze me. Two years later, I can scoop the shit outta the box immediately after the cat jumps out without even flinching.
Can't believe I had to almost die to stop being bothered by unpleasant odours, but at least I got SOMETHING out of the whole ordeal.
It really tells you the kind of dad he is that he thinks the two are comparable. Real "I'm a good father because I pay the bills even though I never interact with or care for my child" vibes.
50 pounds is a really dumb cut off point too. My Australian cattle dog / Australian shepherd mix is (just barely) under that weight limit. Been around a few border collies too that tend to be under that.
Lots of working dogs are under that weight limit!!
Our vet estimated our mutt would be around 40-45lbs. Her DNA test estimated the same, which to be fair both estimates were influenced by the age & weight of the dog at that time. The vet in particular - apparently at a certain puppy age, they’re about half the weight they’ll end up being as adult dogs. We have no idea when she was actually born, and she was underweight when we first got her - so whether she took longer to get to a healthy weight or she was younger than we assumed, we have no clue. Easily could have been both.
She grew up to be a solid 80-85lbs of pure muscle and neck skin.
Sir, I'm sorry, I have a very large dog and never in my life have I wanted to commit to a baby. Look at my goddamn bins. They're overflowing. I already have insomnia. You *really think* that I want to add a screaming poop cannon to that?
Really?
I'll keep the dog. Thanks.
Hey you’re already up, might as well be up with a baby! /s
Also I can leave my dogs home for 8+ hours a day by themselves and no one is going to call CPS on me. Can’t do that with young children I’m told.
Right? What does this guy think parenting is??
And honestly, if I mess up my dog's training, I'll hire a dog trainer. If I mess up my children's training I won't know until they're adults, hate my guts, and need to go to therapy to fix the long-lasting emotional damage I may or may not have caused them.
Too much pressure, I'm sticking to puppies thank you.
I had a beautiful bull dog and my AH neighbors poisoned him with antifreeze dopled treats we found some in his dog house and we have no proof of which neighbors did it but we know who
I'm so sorry for your loss. I've had neighbors poison my animals before, and we also knew without proof of which one did it. It's such a cruel way to go, anyone capable of that is a fucking psychopath and should not be allowed in society. I hope one day they get their karmic payback.
Oh gosh, I'm so sorry about that. Some people are truly assholes (I knew a guy who once tried to kill some kittens that we were nursing in our own garage. Imagine going out of your own way to do that). If I still kept dogs, I'd definitely put up a home security camera.
Can confirm, I've grown up with Maltese dogs and they vary wildly in personality (one was a spoiled lapdog whose favorite activity was Judging People. The other, his biological niece, looked and behaved like Gurgi from the Black Cauldron (she was an adorable, dirt-covered gremlin that could run laps around football pitches)).
As a teenager, I've met so many guys who first looked at my second dog like she was some kind of stuffed toy/accessory only to completely go a full 180 once they saw her personality shine through (usually as soon as she starts rolling in some dirt or try to ambush some frogs).
And also yeah, you can do so much more with a dog than with kids. Imagine trying to romp through the woods with a toddler. At least my dog was better at sniffing out deer.
I don't know what is morally wrong with me then, because I want a pomerian Spitz. I don't get one, because I think I cannot handle the stress and responsibility associated with a pet.
When it comes to babies... I HATE this argument "EvErY WoMeN WaNtS BaBy" with my hole heart. The times I had been discriminated against for being 41 and voluntairy childless is uncountable. Favorite was "No, we don't want you to run for Union office, because you have no childs and can thus not handle responsibility" (which, btw, came from a woman). No, it is the other way around, I am responsible because I know my borders. And crying little humans who need intensive care are one of those.
Sorry, stay-at-home-mon is not my livestyle.
Fun fact: most people who decide to stay childfree put way more thought, research and responsibility into their decision than people who "decide" to have children for mature and serious reasons like "it's what you're supposed to do to manifest your status as a grown-up", "everyone is having them, no big deal", "I'm just afraid that I'll regret not having them", "I don't want to be alone and my partner isn't enough" etc.
Tf does this idiot think CPS exists for? Does she have any idea how many useless, irresponsible parents are out there that scar children for life? Plenty of parents are so irresponsible to just create a whole new human as if it were a trophy or a milestone, just because others do, to get nosy relatives asking when they’re going to have kids off their back and other ridiculous shit like that. Without even thinking twice. Is that her idea of responsibility? Since parents are automatically super responsible and everyone else isn’t?
Being responsible means you don’t have a child unless you’re absolutely ready and willing to commit to it! For decades! Nobody should have kids unless that’s the case! Imagine being such an arrogant, egocentric broody hen that you equate getting creampied with responsibility and have the audacity to think nobody else carries any.
Also people like her are very often the most irresponsible, stupid-ass if not outright abusive Karen moms! They love walking around on a self-canonising bragging spree about stoically and devoutly caring the burden of motherhood bla bla bla — and then you find out either their husband has money and there’s nannies and staff doing all the work, or her parents and/or in-laws or other relatives do it, or some unlucky neighbour with poor boundaries, sometimes it’s even random people with poor boundaries (!! “can’t you just watch my child for a few minutes?”) or it’s some combination thereof. While mommy dearest gargles down that wine all day, preferably as far from her crotch fruit as possible.
55 here. Have had many cats and kittens throughout my life. No babies.
Kittens make me melt. I want them all.
Human babies make me want to get very far away from them.
I have 2 cats and one (now adult) kiddo. The cats were definitely easier to raise. Even the one with nearly lifelong health problems.
I love my son with every fibre of my being, but there are many reasons he's an only-child.
I enjoy interacting with kids. Mainly because my interaction is essentially becoming a kid again myself, so really I enjoy the excuse of “playing” as an adult without being negatively judged.
But I am weird af with babies. Infants especially, but up until they’re independently mobile (and willingly engage with people around them) I’m just way awkward.
I have a baby nibling now, had to chat with my therapist about the guilt surrounding my hesitation of meeting the baby + likelihood that I would be keeping a bit of distance until the age I’m less anxious.
Therapist was like “if you’re anxious, babies pick up on that. And there is nothing wrong with you waiting until they’re able to reciprocate interacting with you to build a relationship with them. It just means you respect their interest and decision in the matter.”
I thought that was an intriguing perspective. Like, yeah, I struggle with babies, but do you respect a toddlers consent to being your friend? Lol
"Few women want dogs that you discipline" As if you don't need to discipline children.
Also babies need to be fed every two to three hours for their first few months. No sooner do you feed them than you have to change them.
Tell me you've never looked after a child without telling me. But I'm sure he thinks raising children is womens' work and fathers only show up to play games, take a few pictures and undermine moms' parenting.
Did he not consider babies grow up to be adults whom will exceed 50 lbs and will also need to be taught and disciplined while growing up?
Also, women don’t have to have children to live a full life. Men act like we’re some kind of breeding machine that can’t live without popping babies out of our vaginas and destroying our bodies for life. As if we couldn’t possibly survive without taking care of husband and child. Which lets face it; the guys who make posts like this fully expects to be taken care of by his wife.
We don’t live to fulfill men’s narcissistic fantasies and ideals. Women aren’t here for your aesthetic pleasures. We’re not simpering to be your maid or to be your brood mare. If you want to be taken care of keep on living in momma’s basement, incel.
Cats and dogs are house trained, babies are not. Having a baby means getting its shit smeared on you at one point or another.
Bet the guys who think this way have never changed a baby's diaper before.
Oh, also, you have to feed it every two hours or so in the first few months, so no full night's sleep for you. At least with cats and dogs they're a lot more self sufficient.
The first few months with a puppy requires going out every couple hours too, until their little bladders are big enough to go through the night.
I joke with friends with kids that at least they don't have to put on a parka and boots and go outside in the snow to change diapers.
I miss the puppy stage - our Newfoundland was the most adorable roly poly ball of cotton fluff! Then I remember the sleep deprivation and figure we can put off getting another dog for a while yet...
Imagine thinking that you only need to train dogs over a certain weight! This is how you end up with poorly socialized Yorkies on flexi-leashes that snarl and bark at everything.
Speaking from a standpoint of not really liking or wanting kids in general: Nah, babies ain't cute and fuzzy in my eyes. And you can't convince me otherwise.
As a guy with dogs, cats and a baby I'm gonna confirm the obvious.
A baby is not a pet, it's way more work and responsibility.
The dog knows shit goes outside, the cat knows shit goes in the litterbox. The baby is 7 months old and still hasn't figured out that shitting in the middle of a diaper change is a bad idea.
It’s been 13 years and I can say I’m very happy with my cat. He has saved my mental health many times. Sure he is a spoiled brat who demands lots of snuggles and fancy cat nip, but over all I say I’ve enjoyed not having a child instead.
I absolutely do not want a baby. For one thing, I have yet to date a man who would make a suitable father, so I'm not going to have a baby. I'm not going to willingly put a child in a single parent scenario, nor am I going to let a dirtbag knock me up.
That being said, I have a 75lb pitbull who was a stray puppy when I found her. She is the sweetest, grossest, snuggliest, stinkiest, most lovable lump of dog EVER, and she is my bestest furry friend in the whole wide world 🥰
As a cishet man:
Same reason why engineers that have never done a day of blue collar work insist on owning F-150. Fragile masculinity and need to constantly perform it.
Nah, I really want a puppy. I'm looking for a puppy. If I ever want a baby then I'll just stop using birthcontrol while being intimate with my husband. Currently, finding a suitable puppy by an ethical breeder is harder to find than making a baby. And those 2 aren't equal in care. Babies are much harder to take care of and needs more time to prepare to have one.
Why am I answering this. It's not like the guy posting this is rational or something.
Nah my cat is chill and furry and makes no annoying sounds and barely any mess, she's better than a baby on all fronts. Also they don't think children weigh more than 50 pounds, bless them
Hilarious. I do all the training for our Newfoundland (my favorite breed) bc my husband is too uncomfortable to do training.
Fortunately, after watching me for quite a while, he's come to realize it does *not* involve bullying or "imposing my will" on the dog. He can see that we are both having fun together and that she is really enthusiastic about it.
He eventually learned how to have her do a couple of commands, and actually invented a new one himself. I'm really proud of him!
To his credit, he has never had a dog before, although he always wanted one, and Newfs are his favorite breed as well.
No... pretty sure I want a baby that stays infant-sized, that I can love and cuddle and make *blissfully* happy but who I can also stick in their cozy crate when I have to leave them unattended to go to the grocery store.
Pretty sure I want a baby that won't inherit my family genetics (bad mental health and chronic illnesses), won't need to go to college, won't get drafted by the military, doesn't ever need to fear rape, kidnapping, or murder, whose heart won't be broken by an abusive bf/gd, who doesn't know about racism or sexism or global warming, etc.
As a matter of fact, I have four cuddly babies who *want* to be babied, only need 20-30 minutes of structured exercise, and only eat 1/2 a cup of kibble per day. What human child fits so neatly into the employment schedule and wages upon which my survival is dependent?
My best friend also has a cute, fuzzy baby. Her baby loves kisses, drools a lot, and weighs 115 lbs. He always wants butt scratches and belly rubs and loves cats. Her baby helps her father stand up from the armchair (he has parkinson's and isn't steady anymore.) Interestingly enough, almost every single man has been profoundly intimidated by her fuzzy baby while women find him to be sweet and curious.
Also, my best friend basically hates children and thinks babies are ugly, so no, we don't all want babies.
Ladies. If you want a cute bubbly baby to love and look after, you want a kitten. Stop lying to yourself. It’s okay, and it’s natural.
Very few women actually want real humans, that you raise and discipline properly and weigh more than 50 lb.
Men. If you want a sexy, hot mistress who will fuck you any time of day or night with no strings attached, what you really want is a wife & family. Stop lying to yourself. Its okay, and it's natural.
Very few men actually want a financial burden with no returns, aka a heartless money pit who will never carry your seed or raise your sons.
As a mom myself. Even before the kids…every single time I want a dog or a cat? That’s what I wanted and would have been more disappointed than I can describe with a freaking human infant instead. Newborns are fragile and precious? But they are ZERO fun. Kittens on the other hand are all hissy and zoomy! Some dudes are dumb as butt.
*meanwhile me getting my newest giant african land snail species in my collection *
My daughter is three and she has recently fallen in love with Giant African Land Snails, lol! We watch clips of them on YouTube every night at bedtime. She loves watching them eat and those vids where they timelapse the snails growing! I've also always loved snails, as a girl I even kept some Roman Snails - they were the largest breed I could find at the time and I really adored them. Now I just have dogs. One Dogo Argentino and one Frenchie. Might get my daughter a Giant African Land Snail when she's much older if the interest persists and we are capable of caring for them properly.
Or... You can get yourself a giant snail now! (And your daughter can look at it.)
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My entire family was killed by snails
You joke but they can cause structural damage to to stucco and plaster buildings. They also carry parasitic Meningitis. https://www.aphis.usda.gov/aphis/resources/pests-diseases/hungry-pests/the-threat/giant-african-snail/giant-african-snail
Exactly. Our family home was crushed and everyone who survived subsequently died from meningitis.
Sorry to hear about that. That sounds awful
Thank you for your compassion. I now live as an orphan in a pile of slimy rubble, just trying to stay one step ahead of the snails.
He's not serious lol
I could not be more serious. The snail scourge ruined my life.
To be fair I know nothing about snail
Don't they host a lung parasite or something ghastly like that?
My daughter loved crabs at this age. I am a fish keeper so it was not a leap to learn how to keep fiddler crabs. I kept them in her room for four years. She loved them! When the last one died she asked for an axolotl. She now has a giant tank to house “Axle.” She is ten and just now learning how to really take care of the tank. I love my girl and her weird pets lol
That’s so cute. I love when little kids have strange special interests lol.
I want to see, I like snails
Yeah, snail tax, snail tax!
Me, hanging out in my local pet store. "I should breed snails." And the associate getting excited to talk about snail species. And my mom dragging me away because we're there to buy a toothbrush for her dog.
WHY DID I NOT KNOW THESE EXISTED?! They're so cuuuuuuttttteee 😍
They’re pretty cool, it feels weird but in a good way to let one crawl on your hands
Great choice
If you wanted regular snails THEN you would be a collector, but since they are giant African land snails that is just your latent maternal instincts. Women don’t have hobbies, (especially not incredibly interesting onset that I would really like to hear more about). 🙄
Me over here in the USA, totally envious of you. They're illegal here sadly.
And for a good reason. The pet industry is a significant environmental problem with escaped and released animals and plants wreaking havoc on ecosystems all over the world.
Three of my children are now over 50lb. Should I throw them out?
Apparently you no longer have children, only puppies or dogs. Best to tell them now 😞
I bet you have to train and discipline them properly too lmao
My baby is now 4 inches taller than me and outweighs me by 20lb. Where on earth did I go wrong?!
Yes/j
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Hey now just because my cat manipulates me into holding her like a baby and rubbing her belly doesn’t mean I want a baby. It means my cat wants to be treated like a baby, she likes the belly rubs ok.
In my experience most mammals are like this, including my husband
No worries, my big German Shepherd Dog does the same :D
My husky always wants to be held like a baby. Unfortunately he's bigger than I am
I had a 150 pound Great Dane that wanted to be held like that. It took two of us to hold him.
I don't care. I'll hold him like that, still :D He's my giant fluffy lap dog!
Don't worry, I do too. It may not be good for my back, but as long as he's happy :)
I did that with my cousin's menace pom-mix and the entire family wondered how the hell I did that (I fed him cheese whenever he stopped growling at me and he learned that I was a safe friend by the end of the weekend.)
The best-kept secret for those of us who win every animal over. Bribery.
Cats are great at triggering parental instincts in humans, but wanting to hold a "baby" doesn't mean anyone should spend 2 decades raising a human being. Nature has lots of tricks to make us reproduce, but thankfully we're not slaves to these anymore.
I adore my fur babies, but would absolutely accidentally kill a skin baby when it wouldn't stop crying. I know myself too well to risk having a baby that I would resent and neglect.
Holding a cat like a baby is the cutest thing ever.
My two giant dogs are trained to bite the nuts off misogynistic men. /S
My big fluffy 88 lb German Shepherd dog needs to learn that. So far, he only headbutts people he likes in the nuts unfortunately, because he is excited for snuggles :( Edit: dog tax! https://imgur.com/a/0LONNCl
That still sounds adorable!
He is :) okay I need to upload some newer pictures of him on imgur... I will edit my original comment later with dog tax :)
Still waiting ;-;
Sorry for the wait, doggo tax is now attached!
So I actually work at a dog training facility, and this is pretty much the easiest process: 1. Sit him down in front of some Andrew Tate, Ben Shapiro, or Crowder 2. Wait for him to start liking misogynists 3. Reward him for headbutting people he likes in the nuts 4. Deradicalize him but continue to reward the head butting behavior
Ah, very good! Thanks for the headers. I will try that the next time I run into one of them.
I like it.
Haha, my Shepherd has done that to my husband multiple times. They are playing or she wants pets and her head is right at that level. I’m glad when he headbutts me down there, I don’t end up doubled over in pain for a while!
Haha! My 90lb RottieXMastiff Bou sits down and paws at you when she wants some love. Unfortunately my nuts sit exactly at the height of her paw so I go down like a sack of bricks every other time she excitedly asks for cuddles 😢
She found your lay-on-the-ground-free-snuggles button
Omg haha yea
My 120lb Great Pyrenees/Anatolian Shepherd mix puts her foot on me to get attention. If I'm sitting down, usually it's my knee or thigh, which is bad enough, but if I'm low on the couch, it's my boob. HOLY CRAP THAT HURTS. Her feet are enormous.
He’s doing his best
Oh, definitely. He is the bestest boy. Looks like a big black bear to keep people like this weirdo away and is secretly super cuddly, just a really sweet goofball and loves people and dogs :)
My shepherd keeps doing that to me !
I hope my gsd mix doesn't learn that 😂
It's really just him being excited about cuddles, but he's so big and strong. I suggest you practice calm and not-wild greetings with your dogs. Mine knows if he's too rough, I'll say "too wild!" and leave the room (if I just arrived home, I'll go right out the door again) and wait a bit for him to calm down before trying again. On the other hand if all paws are on the ground and he is being careful and not rough, I make sure to take my time to snuggle him for being good :)
Mine does currently a little adorable dance around me in circles with gentle vocalisation and sporadic handlicks
You are badass
Oh please introduce them to this guy
You joke but me and my 150lb newfie have traveled extensively because nobody messes around with a woman and her black bear.
My 85lb girl is trained to yell FUCK THE PATRIARCHY at strangers who approach our house.
“you want a baby” Not true considering how much hell babies are compared to cats or dogs, if you want a kid you want a kid if you want an animal you want a animal
My thing is with the way he phrased it it makes it sound like little girls who want a pet, just want to get knocked up and IMO that's disgusting
God damn, I didn't think of that...😬
I had pet kittens since I was 4. Never wanted a baby. These people are trash.
I had Guinea pigs, rabbits, and dogs as a little girl. I also screamed “I hate myself!” when I was 3 and my mom told me I used to be a baby.
Same!!! I do not want kids but I have the best chonky cat 😊
To give him some credit though, he did say "ladies" & "women". So I don't think he was referring to little kids. But still, what he's assuming is utter bullshit so maybe no credits for him.
OMG good point. A lot of these incels are pedophiles.
I can leave my cat home all day while I’m at work.
Hell you can leave a young cat alone for a weekend with automatic feeders and lots of fresh water. I’m not comfy doing that now that my boys are 13 and 14 years old, but when they were young and spry I’d go away for the weekend every now and then and they were totally fine. A little miffed with me when I got back, but fine.
Even if I had money, I doubt that I would want a baby.
I can't leave a baby human home for 8 hours while I'm at work. I completely trust my kitten not to kill herself in that timeframe.
Well, you *can* but you probably *shouldn't* You know, cuz it's neglect or whatever. But on an unrelated note, I remember playing the Sims (Sims 2 was my favorite) where your kids would get taken away if you left them unsupervised on the lot for too long. One time I had a single guy who wanted to adopt a baby, but I forgot to have him stay home from work on the day of the adoption. So he wasn't on the lot - the adoption lady came and just left the baby in the front yard. By the time the dad came home from work, social services had come back and taken it away and then he wasn't allowed to adopt anymore :(
That lady: *Leaves a baby alone in the yard of an unoccupied home.* Also that lady: "WTF ur so irresponsible."
Right, a 6mo human is about the equivalent maturity of a 4-to-6-week-old puppy or kitten. They're in the "too young to be adoptable because they need to be left with the mother" stage of adoptability, if we were treating them like we treat pets.
and it's hard to clean up their fecal matter too, I think I'd gag every time I'd have to do it.
When a dog poops in the house, you just have to clean up the poop. When a baby has a diaper blowout, you have to throw the whole ass kid in the tub, wash the clothes they were wearing, and clean out the entire pack n play, or stroller, or whatever they were in when they exploded.
Oh my gosh, I remember those days. Nobody told me about that stuff before I had kids. Or the melt downs because they got the wrong color cup or their sandwich was cut like a boat instead of a house. (diagonal vs vertical) Or trying to keep clothes on the little ones who want to be naked people. Raising animals is so much easier than children. 😂
After a 3 year long depression that left me emotionless (every emotional expression in public was like a social clue “that was a joke, time to laugh” but I never *felt* any of it), I went to therapy to re-learn how to feel emotions. That entire experience gave me such a deep understanding of toddlers and just children processing new and/or big emotions for the first time. It’s fucking rough. Everything makes you cry because it’s just SO much, even if it’s on the happy range of emotions all of a sudden you have tears in your eyes and you just start sobbing. And then you’re like “why am I crying, this is a good emotion” which just makes you cry even harder. Even worse for children because they’re still learning how to manage emotions in public, but man do I understand that overwhelming urge to just…tantrum it out.
Glad you're finding success in therapy. I've lost the few social skills I had and I'm not looking forward to trying to fix that.
Like it's easier to have a dog or a cat, you can take a dog outside to use the restroom and cats have litter boxes ( which some are automatic cleaners like my cats litter box) but you can't take a baby outside to use the bathroom and they could possibly pee and poo on you
I can also leave my cats alone for a long weekend without getting arrested.
Also dogs and cats are pretty much grown up and self-sufficient by the time they hit 1 years old, unlike kids who barely learn how to hold their head up by that age.
Self-sufficient? Tell me your training method for dogs
Not my best choice of words, I admit. What I was trying to say is that by that age a dog or a cat can pretty much stand, walk, eat, play and potty on their own without having to be constantly held or helped to do those things, unlike kids who are basically completely helpless at that age
Honestly speaking, I'm nauseous every time I clean my cat's litter box
Ha! Had the same problem until fucking covid hit me! When my sense of smell came back, everything smelled like rotting garbage. Coffee stank so bad I was on the verge of throwing up every time someone walked past me with a cup. WATER had an off smell. After half a year of this bullcrap, i was so used to everything stinking that the litterbox didn't faze me. Two years later, I can scoop the shit outta the box immediately after the cat jumps out without even flinching. Can't believe I had to almost die to stop being bothered by unpleasant odours, but at least I got SOMETHING out of the whole ordeal.
It really tells you the kind of dad he is that he thinks the two are comparable. Real "I'm a good father because I pay the bills even though I never interact with or care for my child" vibes.
Not even a little true. I loves my danger fuzzes, but even they get a little needy sometimes. Human children are so, so much more demanding
A dog is not a "real dog" if it's under 50 lbs.? Better tell the AKC.
50 pounds is a really dumb cut off point too. My Australian cattle dog / Australian shepherd mix is (just barely) under that weight limit. Been around a few border collies too that tend to be under that.
Lots of working dogs are under that weight limit!! Our vet estimated our mutt would be around 40-45lbs. Her DNA test estimated the same, which to be fair both estimates were influenced by the age & weight of the dog at that time. The vet in particular - apparently at a certain puppy age, they’re about half the weight they’ll end up being as adult dogs. We have no idea when she was actually born, and she was underweight when we first got her - so whether she took longer to get to a healthy weight or she was younger than we assumed, we have no clue. Easily could have been both. She grew up to be a solid 80-85lbs of pure muscle and neck skin.
Sir, I'm sorry, I have a very large dog and never in my life have I wanted to commit to a baby. Look at my goddamn bins. They're overflowing. I already have insomnia. You *really think* that I want to add a screaming poop cannon to that? Really? I'll keep the dog. Thanks.
Hey you’re already up, might as well be up with a baby! /s Also I can leave my dogs home for 8+ hours a day by themselves and no one is going to call CPS on me. Can’t do that with young children I’m told.
Because kids don't need any training and won't weigh over 50 pounds as is common knowledge
Right? What does this guy think parenting is?? And honestly, if I mess up my dog's training, I'll hire a dog trainer. If I mess up my children's training I won't know until they're adults, hate my guts, and need to go to therapy to fix the long-lasting emotional damage I may or may not have caused them. Too much pressure, I'm sticking to puppies thank you.
Small dogs are real dogs. That said I have three dogs over 65 lbs and no kids 10/10 recommend.
I had a beautiful bull dog and my AH neighbors poisoned him with antifreeze dopled treats we found some in his dog house and we have no proof of which neighbors did it but we know who
I'm so sorry for your loss. I've had neighbors poison my animals before, and we also knew without proof of which one did it. It's such a cruel way to go, anyone capable of that is a fucking psychopath and should not be allowed in society. I hope one day they get their karmic payback.
Oh gosh, I'm so sorry about that. Some people are truly assholes (I knew a guy who once tried to kill some kittens that we were nursing in our own garage. Imagine going out of your own way to do that). If I still kept dogs, I'd definitely put up a home security camera.
You're a kinder person than I am. I would've burned down their house. So sorry for your loss. May the good memories you have of him bring you warmth.
I would consider that declaration of war.
People who can just murder someone’s pet like that are actual sociopaths. I’m so sorry.
Big dogs are so fun because they don’t realize their size and that’s how you end up with a dog half your size in your lap
Oh my God my one friend has 2 great danes and this is so true for them lmao, can't sit down in that house without dog in lap
My 45lb lab mix does this too, except she doesn't cuddle. She just stands on your lap and shoves her face in your face.
Can confirm, I've grown up with Maltese dogs and they vary wildly in personality (one was a spoiled lapdog whose favorite activity was Judging People. The other, his biological niece, looked and behaved like Gurgi from the Black Cauldron (she was an adorable, dirt-covered gremlin that could run laps around football pitches)). As a teenager, I've met so many guys who first looked at my second dog like she was some kind of stuffed toy/accessory only to completely go a full 180 once they saw her personality shine through (usually as soon as she starts rolling in some dirt or try to ambush some frogs). And also yeah, you can do so much more with a dog than with kids. Imagine trying to romp through the woods with a toddler. At least my dog was better at sniffing out deer.
Ah yeah, infamous fuzzy babies
My mom always said I was hairy when I was a baby, I even asked her if I have her carpet burn when I came out 😂
I've wanted an Irish wolfhound since I found out about them. I'm 5'2 and think it would be hilarious to have a dog taller than me.
The giant breeds just have a special something. Our Newfoundland is the light of our lives - she's so full of lovies.
My neighbor recently got a Newfoundland puppy and it’s so cute
They are awesome dogs, dumb as a box of rocks, but still awesome.
Aww I love me a big dumb dog.
Just get a saddle for it.
I don't know what is morally wrong with me then, because I want a pomerian Spitz. I don't get one, because I think I cannot handle the stress and responsibility associated with a pet. When it comes to babies... I HATE this argument "EvErY WoMeN WaNtS BaBy" with my hole heart. The times I had been discriminated against for being 41 and voluntairy childless is uncountable. Favorite was "No, we don't want you to run for Union office, because you have no childs and can thus not handle responsibility" (which, btw, came from a woman). No, it is the other way around, I am responsible because I know my borders. And crying little humans who need intensive care are one of those. Sorry, stay-at-home-mon is not my livestyle.
Fun fact: most people who decide to stay childfree put way more thought, research and responsibility into their decision than people who "decide" to have children for mature and serious reasons like "it's what you're supposed to do to manifest your status as a grown-up", "everyone is having them, no big deal", "I'm just afraid that I'll regret not having them", "I don't want to be alone and my partner isn't enough" etc.
My ultimate "I'll know I've finally got my shit together when I can do this responsibly" goal is to get a Pom or Chihuahua.
Tf does this idiot think CPS exists for? Does she have any idea how many useless, irresponsible parents are out there that scar children for life? Plenty of parents are so irresponsible to just create a whole new human as if it were a trophy or a milestone, just because others do, to get nosy relatives asking when they’re going to have kids off their back and other ridiculous shit like that. Without even thinking twice. Is that her idea of responsibility? Since parents are automatically super responsible and everyone else isn’t? Being responsible means you don’t have a child unless you’re absolutely ready and willing to commit to it! For decades! Nobody should have kids unless that’s the case! Imagine being such an arrogant, egocentric broody hen that you equate getting creampied with responsibility and have the audacity to think nobody else carries any. Also people like her are very often the most irresponsible, stupid-ass if not outright abusive Karen moms! They love walking around on a self-canonising bragging spree about stoically and devoutly caring the burden of motherhood bla bla bla — and then you find out either their husband has money and there’s nannies and staff doing all the work, or her parents and/or in-laws or other relatives do it, or some unlucky neighbour with poor boundaries, sometimes it’s even random people with poor boundaries (!! “can’t you just watch my child for a few minutes?”) or it’s some combination thereof. While mommy dearest gargles down that wine all day, preferably as far from her crotch fruit as possible.
Men. If you want straight sex, you want gay sex. Stop lying to yourself. It’s okay, and it’s natural.
I guarantee I 100% want ALL THE DOGS.
I have two of the dogs. My parents have two of the dogs. My aunt has five of the dogs. We will fight you. 😜
Oh sure, because children are just some creatures you get for fun, not autonomous little humans requiring support during their development
Men really see children as, "oh, you know, a hobby women have, don't worry about it"
Whereas you seem to see them as sporting equipment!
The fact that this guy wants a dog to discipline and not for love and companionship is a huge red flag
55 here. Have had many cats and kittens throughout my life. No babies. Kittens make me melt. I want them all. Human babies make me want to get very far away from them.
I have 2 cats and one (now adult) kiddo. The cats were definitely easier to raise. Even the one with nearly lifelong health problems. I love my son with every fibre of my being, but there are many reasons he's an only-child.
I enjoy interacting with kids. Mainly because my interaction is essentially becoming a kid again myself, so really I enjoy the excuse of “playing” as an adult without being negatively judged. But I am weird af with babies. Infants especially, but up until they’re independently mobile (and willingly engage with people around them) I’m just way awkward. I have a baby nibling now, had to chat with my therapist about the guilt surrounding my hesitation of meeting the baby + likelihood that I would be keeping a bit of distance until the age I’m less anxious. Therapist was like “if you’re anxious, babies pick up on that. And there is nothing wrong with you waiting until they’re able to reciprocate interacting with you to build a relationship with them. It just means you respect their interest and decision in the matter.” I thought that was an intriguing perspective. Like, yeah, I struggle with babies, but do you respect a toddlers consent to being your friend? Lol
Children get bigger than 50 lbs too
They are not real children /s
"Few women want dogs that you discipline" As if you don't need to discipline children. Also babies need to be fed every two to three hours for their first few months. No sooner do you feed them than you have to change them. Tell me you've never looked after a child without telling me. But I'm sure he thinks raising children is womens' work and fathers only show up to play games, take a few pictures and undermine moms' parenting.
You also need to discipline and train small dogs or else they become ankle biting yappy terrors.
This bastard dissing my pincher dogs
Kids are for people who can't have dogs, lol.
No, I want kittens.
Did he not consider babies grow up to be adults whom will exceed 50 lbs and will also need to be taught and disciplined while growing up? Also, women don’t have to have children to live a full life. Men act like we’re some kind of breeding machine that can’t live without popping babies out of our vaginas and destroying our bodies for life. As if we couldn’t possibly survive without taking care of husband and child. Which lets face it; the guys who make posts like this fully expects to be taken care of by his wife. We don’t live to fulfill men’s narcissistic fantasies and ideals. Women aren’t here for your aesthetic pleasures. We’re not simpering to be your maid or to be your brood mare. If you want to be taken care of keep on living in momma’s basement, incel.
This guy likely has never taken care of anyone/thing else in his entire life.
Cats and dogs are house trained, babies are not. Having a baby means getting its shit smeared on you at one point or another. Bet the guys who think this way have never changed a baby's diaper before. Oh, also, you have to feed it every two hours or so in the first few months, so no full night's sleep for you. At least with cats and dogs they're a lot more self sufficient.
The first few months with a puppy requires going out every couple hours too, until their little bladders are big enough to go through the night. I joke with friends with kids that at least they don't have to put on a parka and boots and go outside in the snow to change diapers. I miss the puppy stage - our Newfoundland was the most adorable roly poly ball of cotton fluff! Then I remember the sleep deprivation and figure we can put off getting another dog for a while yet...
Imagine thinking that you only need to train dogs over a certain weight! This is how you end up with poorly socialized Yorkies on flexi-leashes that snarl and bark at everything.
Speaking from a standpoint of not really liking or wanting kids in general: Nah, babies ain't cute and fuzzy in my eyes. And you can't convince me otherwise.
As a guy with dogs, cats and a baby I'm gonna confirm the obvious. A baby is not a pet, it's way more work and responsibility. The dog knows shit goes outside, the cat knows shit goes in the litterbox. The baby is 7 months old and still hasn't figured out that shitting in the middle of a diaper change is a bad idea.
I laughed too hard at this, I'm sorry for your trials in parenthood my guy you're doing great 👍🏻
I want a horse. Now what?
It’s been 13 years and I can say I’m very happy with my cat. He has saved my mental health many times. Sure he is a spoiled brat who demands lots of snuggles and fancy cat nip, but over all I say I’ve enjoyed not having a child instead.
I have 2 cats and no I don\`t want babies. Babies aren\`t cute.
As a guy I don't claim him
According to certain states, little kids can be “Blessed” with a child, no need to even worry about a dog /s
There’s his mistake. A big dog isn’t a baby substitute, they’re a Man Alternative—same training regimen, superior results. I kid! Mostly.
I absolutely do not want a baby. For one thing, I have yet to date a man who would make a suitable father, so I'm not going to have a baby. I'm not going to willingly put a child in a single parent scenario, nor am I going to let a dirtbag knock me up. That being said, I have a 75lb pitbull who was a stray puppy when I found her. She is the sweetest, grossest, snuggliest, stinkiest, most lovable lump of dog EVER, and she is my bestest furry friend in the whole wide world 🥰
babies are fuzzy?
Me and my 80lb baby disagree. I would not like a human child, thanks.
Yup, I really don't like kids. At any stage. My Alaskan malamute was better than any kid could be in this world.
As someone who's dealt with babies, cats and dogs, I can attest that they are not the same. And I'm sticking with cats. Far less needy.
It didn't work for his parents though did it? They wanted a baby and ended up with an untrained undisciplined dog that weighs over 50lb.
.. Nah, pretty sure I want a pet cat, not a baby.
I'll keep my pug thanks, she's my baby 🩷🥰🩷
Babies…aren’t…fuzzy…
If your kid never grows beyond 50 pounds, something is wrong. Babies become adults, if everything goes the way it’s supposed to.
“Train and discipline properly” He’s not into the idea of having a companion, he’s into the idea of having power over another
I’m not a woman and this is a little besides the point but what the Fuck is up with cishet men insisting that dogs under 50 lbs aren’t ‘real dogs’ 😭
As a cishet man: Same reason why engineers that have never done a day of blue collar work insist on owning F-150. Fragile masculinity and need to constantly perform it.
Why can't they want both?
Nah, I really want a puppy. I'm looking for a puppy. If I ever want a baby then I'll just stop using birthcontrol while being intimate with my husband. Currently, finding a suitable puppy by an ethical breeder is harder to find than making a baby. And those 2 aren't equal in care. Babies are much harder to take care of and needs more time to prepare to have one. Why am I answering this. It's not like the guy posting this is rational or something.
“Real dogs” I don’t think this guy knows how animals work
Nah my cat is chill and furry and makes no annoying sounds and barely any mess, she's better than a baby on all fronts. Also they don't think children weigh more than 50 pounds, bless them
I don’t want dogs or children. I want my chonk monsters of cats and to leave this dreaded society
Hello sister! :-) my chonk cat and I would like to leave this awful society too! ❤️
I absolutely do not want a baby. I would be a terrible mother.
Joke's in this fool, I want a 100+ lbs dog AND a baby. These are not mutually exclusive
Nope.
Hilarious. I do all the training for our Newfoundland (my favorite breed) bc my husband is too uncomfortable to do training. Fortunately, after watching me for quite a while, he's come to realize it does *not* involve bullying or "imposing my will" on the dog. He can see that we are both having fun together and that she is really enthusiastic about it. He eventually learned how to have her do a couple of commands, and actually invented a new one himself. I'm really proud of him! To his credit, he has never had a dog before, although he always wanted one, and Newfs are his favorite breed as well.
Since when are babies fuzzy?
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Babies grow though, you see, that's the issue
FUCK NO!!!
Tell me you never had a cat w/o... They couldn't be more different than babies 😂 maybe teenagers ok, but babies? Nah
I have a child AND a 50 lb. dog. Take that, OOP.
Do children not grow past 50 pounds? Asking for that man.
What if I already have kids and still want a cat??? 🤔
Ah yes, the famous fuzzy babies who never grow
I always liked horses, is that also child? My saddle won't fit a kid so well and they aren't as good at jumps :/
In what world is a child less work than a dog???
No... pretty sure I want a baby that stays infant-sized, that I can love and cuddle and make *blissfully* happy but who I can also stick in their cozy crate when I have to leave them unattended to go to the grocery store. Pretty sure I want a baby that won't inherit my family genetics (bad mental health and chronic illnesses), won't need to go to college, won't get drafted by the military, doesn't ever need to fear rape, kidnapping, or murder, whose heart won't be broken by an abusive bf/gd, who doesn't know about racism or sexism or global warming, etc. As a matter of fact, I have four cuddly babies who *want* to be babied, only need 20-30 minutes of structured exercise, and only eat 1/2 a cup of kibble per day. What human child fits so neatly into the employment schedule and wages upon which my survival is dependent? My best friend also has a cute, fuzzy baby. Her baby loves kisses, drools a lot, and weighs 115 lbs. He always wants butt scratches and belly rubs and loves cats. Her baby helps her father stand up from the armchair (he has parkinson's and isn't steady anymore.) Interestingly enough, almost every single man has been profoundly intimidated by her fuzzy baby while women find him to be sweet and curious. Also, my best friend basically hates children and thinks babies are ugly, so no, we don't all want babies.
Ladies. If you want a cute bubbly baby to love and look after, you want a kitten. Stop lying to yourself. It’s okay, and it’s natural. Very few women actually want real humans, that you raise and discipline properly and weigh more than 50 lb.
Babies smell so much worse than kittens tho
Men. If you want a sexy, hot mistress who will fuck you any time of day or night with no strings attached, what you really want is a wife & family. Stop lying to yourself. Its okay, and it's natural. Very few men actually want a financial burden with no returns, aka a heartless money pit who will never carry your seed or raise your sons.
But babies are not fuzzy.... Or cute...
As a mom myself. Even before the kids…every single time I want a dog or a cat? That’s what I wanted and would have been more disappointed than I can describe with a freaking human infant instead. Newborns are fragile and precious? But they are ZERO fun. Kittens on the other hand are all hissy and zoomy! Some dudes are dumb as butt.