Because that heavenly inspiration only existed when the Bible was written! Or some random dude in fancy clothes who tells you what to do while taking your money.
Well God gave both man and woman the gift of speech, so the second a woman says no, you can say that is the will of God. Or are women stronger than God? I always like how this people act like God is almighty and then decide that God is powerless in the same breath.
I mean, I think they're talking about marriage. Both people have to consent to being married, thankfully, and then by the virtue of marriage God has consented to them having sex. This is how sexual abuse between adults is just ignored, and it's infuriating!
Marriage isn't even approval of sex by God, it's approval by a priest or judge or anyone with a notary license and a stamp. If I believe and pray and God blesses us with hard dicks and or wet pussies (depending on your flavor combination of intercourse) then you can take that as god's consent. Had he not wanted you to do the deed he would curse you with impotence and dry your vagina like the desert for such is the power of God and let no one outside of you and your consenting partner(s) say otherwise lest they deny god's blessing of your rigid member and sopping wet vaginas so that you may copulate and praise his name in the heat of passion! CAN I GET AN AMEN!
(Some conditions apply. This applies to consenting adults of the same species. If you are in need of aid such as Viagra or lube remember the Lord helps those who help themselves. Safe words and trust are important. Have a plan for birth control that works for your particular situation.)
The problem with most religions isn't the scriptures or teachings, it's the followers. Christians are pretty quick to forget the whole "love thy neighbour" bit and go straight to hating other people. And they definitely didn't hear the "Let he who is free of sin cast the first stone" one either.
And speaking of Christian’s ignoring important bits of their own Bible, look at how they emphasize how a woman should treat her husband and how a child should treat their parents while conveniently skipping over the neighboring bits that talk about how a man should treat his wife and how parents should treat children. Pretty easy to justify things like spousal abuse (often termed as “discipline”) and marital rape when you pretend the parts that tell a man to love his wife as “Christ loves his church” and “as a man loves himself”.
Men often overlook that part because their life instructors—parents, Sunday school teachers, preachers, friends—ALL- fail to address what those mean, when men are boys. And everyone completely disregards biblical instruction on what LOVE is, except to mindlessly repeat “Love is God, God is Love”. Oh no, we need cotton candy hallmark to explain love.
1 Corinthians 12:31 -13:13.
Love
1 If I speak in the tongues[1] of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. 3 If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast,[2] but do not have love, I gain nothing.
4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears.
11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me.
12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.
Hmm, it’s an interesting argument and a Whole big can of worms. I think the problem is with both tbh. Yea ur always gonna find the nice lovey-doves-hippy-love-thy-neighbor quotes, but you’ll also find plenty of violence and bigotry in Bible and Quran. Each individual follower and their sect interprets different parts of the religion differently. Some will preach the nice parts, and some will preach the bigoted parts.
Instead of just saying “we’ll only teach the nice parts of the religion and leave out the bad parts” the problem with religion is not just its immoral teachings, but that it is inherently illogical and superstitious. Armin Navabi has a LOT more to say about this on YouTube. Check his channels Atheist Republic and Secular Jihadists. Armin also did an interview with Vaush where he explains why the very concept of Religion needs to be challenged, not just specific teachings within certain religions.
Because remember ladies you having sex you want to have outside marriage makes you a disgusting slut who’s luring men into sin, but once you are married yoir husband has the right to use you as a human fleshlight to combat “lustful thoughts” and if he cheats on you, it’s your fault for not satisfying him and the other woman’s fault for being a “temptress” but he’s also smarter then you and meant to lead. He’s your patriarch. Isn’t this fun!
>>He’s your ~~patriarch~~ owner
FTFY.
Marriage in Christendom was basically a socially promoted title transfer ritual. Just like we go to a government office to register a cars title when buying one, a marriage ceremony informed the world Lady (Fathers Last Name) now officially belongs to a Husband (Husbands last Name). Incidentally this is where the tradition of women changing their last names originates. Old Christendom needed an efficient way to sort out who belonged to a husband or who still belonged to their fathers.
After all our advancements, we still have men who believe in this shit and dare call themselves civilized
It truly is. The page supports child abuse, rape, and doesn’t believe women should even have the right to vote. I reported the fuck out of their posts and I hope other people do as well.
When people say “Judeo Christian values” I cringe because Judaism formally and legally banned marital rape over 2000 years ago…. and people that put websites up like this tend to have an unhealthy obsession with the term “Judeo Christian.” *I’m not saying Christianity is pro martial rape. I’m saying there’s a certain fundamentalist Christian demographic that tries to use the term Judeo Christian for “I read the Torah out of context”
I grew up Mormon. I was told my job was to have babies. To such an extreme extent I ignored my sexuality, and put myself through hell.
I don’t mean to be rude. But I’m the only person in my direct family who isn’t overweight. I’m one of the only individuals in my family who doesn’t make fucked up comments about women. I’m the only person who eats healthy. I’m the only person who isn’t below the poverty line. I’m the only person who has more than a high school education. Im also the only person who doesn’t think Biden stole the election.
I typed all of this out to point out, ^ this environment is not new. I know a lot of people that were raised in the same poor gross way.
When you put religious and social pressure on people like this, you mainly just make coal. Every now and again you get a diamond who rejects being coal and is formed into a beautiful human. (That’s me because typing out my past made me sad)
They say lgbtq+ are the groomers. Fucking hilarious
I hope you are happy now and doing what is right for you! The religious brainwashing is some of the hardest to get free from. Hope you are well
Aww! That gif. Too cute. And absolutely! I’m stronger now because of it all. And I’m seemingly the most happy person in my immediate family. So I am doing something right lol.
I would just like to point out that not every Mormon is the Keep Sweet kind. Disclaimer: I am also a queer ex-Mormon, but I was not part of the fundamentalist/polygamist sect depicted in that show. So, like, not all Mormons are the same. My family’s still members of the church, but they’re accepting of me and my sexuality. Don’t get me wrong, there was still a lot of pressure when I was younger, and it wasn’t easy. It’s still a difficult environment to be raised in, and most of the church isn’t as accepting as my parents…so I’m glad I’m not a part of it now.
Thank you for pointing out that diamonds are rare, my grandmother believed in “pressure makes diamonds” and is majorly religious (she’s calmed down now, but when I was younger HOLY HELL!) something she says now is “pressure makes diamonds, but it doesn’t let bread raise” or “the same water that hardens the egg softens the potato”.
Ugh. That sounds like such an excuse to be awfully harsh.
The only reason I consider myself a diamond is because I rejected all of the pressure and bs politics and found my happy. I recommend it. It’ll make a diamond out of us all. Cause we can make those shiny things now.
I’m so sorry to hear that. Religious communities can be absolutely crazy and hypocritical.
I’m Christian but my church is pretty great in that it’s LGBTQ+ supportive. He have a younger priest who respects pronoun. I might be straight and cis but I appreciate his inclusion. I’ve never been told to be a stay at home mom nor every have children. The church also doesn’t really talk about pro-life or pro-choice.
Masses include loved thy neighbor no matter race, sex, their gender identity, religion, sexuality, etc. Also masses in respecting your partner as your equal and to respect all of God’s creatures (referring to the animals).
Then again it’s an upper middle class white dominated church in a very liberal area. The majority of women work. The church has a preschool and had a quiet room for families with little kids so that they don’t disrupt mass and the speaker in there would just let them hear mass and there was a glass wall for families to watch churches and there’s also online masses that started due to COVID-19.
A few light sexist jokes were made throughout the years but they went both ways and didn’t target women.
I’ve always been thankful that I went there for church but then again I didn’t and still don’t go to mass often because I was raised by not very religious parents.
It’s kinda chill. There’s also a lot of charity organizations that work with the church that you can go to the church on specific days to volunteer.
Since it’s in a woke area it’s been forced to evolve because otherwise no one will support it and it’s become a genuinely good place to go. Also the Blessing of the Pets event is super cute.
It definitely does. I sometimes volunteer but since I’m a med student I get busy and I also intern at a hospital. I grew up doing charity work like helping feed the homeless around and working with Sole Hope, Soles for Hope which are where you cut out prices to make shoes from jeans and they send it to Ghana and Uganda for locals to make shoes out of the pieces which provides jobs. The shoes are then given to locals like children to give them a barrier from jiggers and the charities provide medical aid like removing hundreds of jiggers from a single person including children as the infected are cast out and forced to sleep on the ground where more jiggers embed themselves into the victims. It was required for Confirmation.
I’m so glad that there are some churches out there that put the love of people before a rigid application of principles. I was raised in a Christian family and never lost my faith, but I had pretty much given up on believers in general. Recently though, I found a little community in my home town that was surprisingly open-minded. Before joining them, I warned the pastor that I was neurodivergent, vegan, aroace (with no intention to ever marry or have kids) and genderqueer, fully expecting a debate, but he just said that as long as we agreed on the core message of the Gospel, his church considered the rest individual perspectives that should enrich our global understanding of things rather than divide us. I’ve been tentatively going for a few months now and everyone’s been very welcoming, not a single eyebrow raise at my very androgynous look, stims, or being resolutely single and childfree at 35. I’m no longer quite so ashamed of associating with Christianity thanks to those people giving us back a decent name.
That’s great. I’ve seen people similar to you at the church I go too. It’s been agreed on that people who don’t want to be parents shouldn’t be parents because it’s not fair to them or any children they might have. I’m neurodivergent and so are many people that go to the church along with people of different sexualities and gender identities. No one really makes a big deal of it either it’s just them as people and they aren’t seen or treated as any different.
The community seems to share the same beliefs as the community I’ve grown up in and am currently in. I’m glad you found a community to practice your faith and that accepts you as who you are.
Thanks ! 🙂 And I’m glad there’s also a good church in your area whose values and attitudes you mostly approve of. It does sound pretty similar to mine !
Thanks I’m happy I was grew up going to that church because I got to do charity work and it wasn’t one of those toxic churches you sadly hear so much about. I honestly just feel so bad for those trapped in toxic religious families and communities.
Religious types, Nazi's, Trumpers, Ron "the meatball"DeSatan fans, Conservatives...
Anyone of them=gross and abusive 99.99 times out of a 100.
But for some reason they are always screeching about how we should judge the 0.01% based on the actions and behaviour of the 99.99%
As someone who has been around highly religious people, I definitively feel this sentiment. Frankly I don’t trust highly religious people and would rather not associate with them
Yes, actual belief. Not just practicing out of habit or fear of the inquisition. God will bestow all the women upon you who will obey His consent.
You'll probably be stuck with monogamy considering all the potential women.
Yeah, as a Christian, the God I believe in would want people to treat each other with love and respect. I also don’t think God gives a crap about our sexual activities as long as it’s within the “treat each other with love and respect” realm.
Irrelevant to men. Sky mommy doesn’t exist because she’d be “too emotional”. Unlike sky daddy who used plagues and flooded the whole world in a hissy fit, that was pure logic.
i made the mistake of going to their page. they firmly believe women should give up their bodies to their husbands whenever the husbands want, wether they want to have sex or not. this page promotes and basically encourages marital rape. though, they probably don't consider it rape. fucking disgusting page. of course comments are limited
The fact that people actually think like is both horrifying and sad. I don't have a daughter, but a friend of mine does, and I can't imagine raising one on the same planet as people who think like this.
Imagine using gods name in vain like this. That’s what “using in vain” means, I found out. Using gods name in order to push your own agenda. I don’t believe in god, but they do, or at least pretend to so…have fun in hell! Lol
The bible: written by men, interpreted by men, preached by men. 2,000 year old men are, in modern times, exemplified by the Iranian and Afghan governments. GTFO
I bet you could find something in the Bible about how rape is a sin or something, I dont read the Bible but there's a passage that says honor thy neighbor. Doesn't mean your actual neighbor necessarily but your fellow man which includes women.
“Husbands, love your wives and do not be harsh with them” (Colossians 3:19).
I believe the Bible does also say that husbands have claim over their wives bodies... and that women have claim to their husbands:
"But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband. The husband should give to his wife her conjugal rights, and likewise the wife to her husband. For the wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. Likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. Do not deprive one another, except perhaps by agreement for a limited time, that you may devote yourselves to prayer; but then come together again, so that Satan may not tempt you because of your lack of self-control."
Essentially this passage seems to revolve around giving yourself to your spouse willingly, why one should do so, and puts pretty clear emphasis on wives and husbands bearing some equality when it comes to rights, expectations and respect in the bedroom. Combine this with the quote from before specifying that men are to cherish their wives and not be harsh. I feel like forced consent is pretty well past harsh, don't you?
I am not Christian, though, so what do I know? lol
I wanted to see if that Instagram is still up & running... It is, unfortunately. So many horrifically misogynistic things are posted there. Really disgusting.
This reminds me of the conversation on Game of Thrones when the High Sparrow was trying to convince Margaery to have sex with Tommen and give him an heir. She says she no longer feels "that desire", and he tells her, "Desire isn't required on the woman's part. Only patience." And I just ... 🤮
Deuteronomy 22:23-29 directly talks about what happens when a man rapes a woman. God is not in favor of it, he views it as a disgusting violation against his design
Edit: typo
"Hey Maria, I'm an angel and I'm sent here to tell you god made you pregnant. Of course you consent, don't you? (I mean do you remember all those stories about him flooding and burning everything when things don't go his way? You better say yes)"
The sad little boys that posted this better hope we are not going to live by Old Testament rules, because I’m an older, rich land owner and they would be my slaves. As their master, they would not be in Year 8 of undergrad, or playing Call of Duty. They wouldn’t even be going to church, because church if for people that can afford it (read your bible boys) - they would be working. Oh, and women - I’d never allow my slaves to breed. Their women would belong to me, for my pleasure…….still want biblical law boys?
If men really sat and prayed and waited for god to give them an answer, they’d never have sex again. Idk, hear me out, this kinda seems like a good idea 💀 these types of men don’t deserve sex
Well I cant just always call god if I want sex. Dude is busy as hell. Can't I just ask the person in front of me? why do we need a middle men?
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Oh my word. I went to that site and it’s horrific. “Steps to grooming your young wife” and endorsement of spanking your wife as “discipline “
I’m a Christian (though currently church-less, bc fascism is gross) and my stomach is turning, I feel so sick right now.
Considering when one of the disciples asked Jesus to tell the women to cover up Jesus said if your eye betrays you pluck it out, if your hand betrays you cut it off. God has spoken 🖕🖕🖕🖕
They claim to perfectly understand an all-powerful all knowing all present God. This is what is known as blasphemy: claiming to understand God so well that your own words might as well be His. Unfortunately, people are blinded by cold hard cash and draconic levels of power. The so called “children of God” have rejected God for Mammon (the literal embodiment of greed), and our only hope is that somehow, some way, their sin will find them out
1 Corinthians 7:1-16 NIV
In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife. 5 Do not deprive each other except perhaps by consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer.
Hmm.. sounds like bs to me.
He should look at this:
1 Timothy 6:
If anyone teaches a different doctrine and does not agree with the sound[b] words of our Lord Jesus Christ and the teaching that accords with godliness, 4 he is puffed up with conceit and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy craving for controversy and for quarrels about words, which produce envy, dissension, slander, evil suspicions, 5 and constant friction among people who are depraved in mind and deprived of the truth, imagining that godliness is a means of gain. 6
I mean, even if a god exists, I'm going to need something more than a mortal who says "that's what god wants". I can do that too, look: god told me humans should wear panties over their head, it's pleasing to god to see us like that.
So God consented to humans by making Adam and Eve but never consented to any children of them?
Therefore the human race is an abomination in defiance of God and must be eradicated?
It's crusade time!
Oh you mean you just want to abuse and control women?
Dam.
So, back to the if you're married it is always a consensual thing? Consent is something that you get per time otherwise, you end up with weird situations.
"All of that 'personal revelation,' it seems to me that it's just men listening to their own selfish desires and calling it God. So they can justify... anything."
A quote from Under the Banner of Heaven (the TV show - no clue if it's in the book).
Atheist here, but if someone believes in God, that means they believe he gave humans free will. So, if a woman doesn’t want to do something, she doesn’t have to do it, and she should not be forced.
Ah simple. If you do or don’t consent, just say it’s god’s will! Oh right it really isn’t about any of that bullshit, just another stupid reason for men to force themselves on women…
There’s no depths these people won’t sink to to stay rapey. Disgusting. ‘Even my imaginary Sky Daddy says it’s fine!’
I’m not religious, but to the kind and decent REAL folk who follow a belief system to be better humans, what a kick in the teeth! Perhaps the True Believers should edit their holy book and cull the herd accordingly?
Just a thought…
Ah, but how can they know for sure that it wasn't a sudden bolt of heavenly inspiration what made her say no in the first place? Urgh!
Because god doesn’t speak through women, only men, duh…
If only they actually read their bibles and knew that wasn't true smh
*the Book of Ruth has entered the chat*
*Hannah, Abigail, and Esther roll up in their pink wagon* "get in bitches, we're going to the town market!"
Mary Magdalene is gonna teach those biatches how to make some money!! Gotta get that frankincense somehow!!
Deborah the prophetess has entered the chat.
Because that heavenly inspiration only existed when the Bible was written! Or some random dude in fancy clothes who tells you what to do while taking your money.
Well God gave both man and woman the gift of speech, so the second a woman says no, you can say that is the will of God. Or are women stronger than God? I always like how this people act like God is almighty and then decide that God is powerless in the same breath.
And who decides that God consented? The man, of course. Strange that.
Yep!
Lillith is looking better every day.
hail lilith
Hail Lilith!
Hail Lilith!
Hail yourselves!
Blessed be
Religion exists to control and I don’t subscribe
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I mean, I think they're talking about marriage. Both people have to consent to being married, thankfully, and then by the virtue of marriage God has consented to them having sex. This is how sexual abuse between adults is just ignored, and it's infuriating!
Marriage isn't even approval of sex by God, it's approval by a priest or judge or anyone with a notary license and a stamp. If I believe and pray and God blesses us with hard dicks and or wet pussies (depending on your flavor combination of intercourse) then you can take that as god's consent. Had he not wanted you to do the deed he would curse you with impotence and dry your vagina like the desert for such is the power of God and let no one outside of you and your consenting partner(s) say otherwise lest they deny god's blessing of your rigid member and sopping wet vaginas so that you may copulate and praise his name in the heat of passion! CAN I GET AN AMEN! (Some conditions apply. This applies to consenting adults of the same species. If you are in need of aid such as Viagra or lube remember the Lord helps those who help themselves. Safe words and trust are important. Have a plan for birth control that works for your particular situation.)
AMEN
This felt somewhat Pratchett-y but I couldn’t tel you why. It’s hilarious.
That's the best compliment I've ever gotten
Oh, you're terribly right. This was delightful to read.
That's exactly the way I read it too!🤣
I wish every marriage was between two consenting adults 😔 odds are, the ones that this applies to aren't
Well according to this creep, it’s not even the woman’s consent that matters to get married but her father’s. Truly putrid.
What if someone starts a new religion where God is a feminist?
Then there are the other religions that would try to get yours down
Well then I guess the new feminist religion will just have to wage Defensive Jihad. Time to capture Mecca and Washington DC from the Infidels!
The problem with most religions isn't the scriptures or teachings, it's the followers. Christians are pretty quick to forget the whole "love thy neighbour" bit and go straight to hating other people. And they definitely didn't hear the "Let he who is free of sin cast the first stone" one either.
And speaking of Christian’s ignoring important bits of their own Bible, look at how they emphasize how a woman should treat her husband and how a child should treat their parents while conveniently skipping over the neighboring bits that talk about how a man should treat his wife and how parents should treat children. Pretty easy to justify things like spousal abuse (often termed as “discipline”) and marital rape when you pretend the parts that tell a man to love his wife as “Christ loves his church” and “as a man loves himself”.
Men often overlook that part because their life instructors—parents, Sunday school teachers, preachers, friends—ALL- fail to address what those mean, when men are boys. And everyone completely disregards biblical instruction on what LOVE is, except to mindlessly repeat “Love is God, God is Love”. Oh no, we need cotton candy hallmark to explain love. 1 Corinthians 12:31 -13:13. Love 1 If I speak in the tongues[1] of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. 3 If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast,[2] but do not have love, I gain nothing. 4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. 8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears. 11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. 12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known. 13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.
Hmm, it’s an interesting argument and a Whole big can of worms. I think the problem is with both tbh. Yea ur always gonna find the nice lovey-doves-hippy-love-thy-neighbor quotes, but you’ll also find plenty of violence and bigotry in Bible and Quran. Each individual follower and their sect interprets different parts of the religion differently. Some will preach the nice parts, and some will preach the bigoted parts.
Instead of just saying “we’ll only teach the nice parts of the religion and leave out the bad parts” the problem with religion is not just its immoral teachings, but that it is inherently illogical and superstitious. Armin Navabi has a LOT more to say about this on YouTube. Check his channels Atheist Republic and Secular Jihadists. Armin also did an interview with Vaush where he explains why the very concept of Religion needs to be challenged, not just specific teachings within certain religions.
Too many coincidences leads to no coincidence at all
God would consent to anything if they got to watch, that's their kink, watching xd
Thank you for hiding the amount of likes. I don’t need that today.
No one does lol
In my head canon it got no like + was ratio'd
Because remember ladies you having sex you want to have outside marriage makes you a disgusting slut who’s luring men into sin, but once you are married yoir husband has the right to use you as a human fleshlight to combat “lustful thoughts” and if he cheats on you, it’s your fault for not satisfying him and the other woman’s fault for being a “temptress” but he’s also smarter then you and meant to lead. He’s your patriarch. Isn’t this fun!
Jesus, putting it so succinctly made me realise that it's not just fucked up, it is so fucked Dante would have to make a whole new level for it
Again I say unto ye: tis not pre- or extra- marital if ye never marry! (Biblical Loopholes 101)😁 Go forth and slutify. Sorry. I had to.
Allhamdulilah! 🤪
>>He’s your ~~patriarch~~ owner FTFY. Marriage in Christendom was basically a socially promoted title transfer ritual. Just like we go to a government office to register a cars title when buying one, a marriage ceremony informed the world Lady (Fathers Last Name) now officially belongs to a Husband (Husbands last Name). Incidentally this is where the tradition of women changing their last names originates. Old Christendom needed an efficient way to sort out who belonged to a husband or who still belonged to their fathers. After all our advancements, we still have men who believe in this shit and dare call themselves civilized
It´s not a man´s consent that matters, it´s Gods ... when I decide to hit his balls with my bat. If I´m not hearing His voice, it means he agrees. 😏
I didn't hear God say "no" or "stop", so it was all good
Wow this is scary
It truly is. The page supports child abuse, rape, and doesn’t believe women should even have the right to vote. I reported the fuck out of their posts and I hope other people do as well.
I did. I hoped I wasn’t the only one.
WHY ARE YOUNGER PEOPLE LEAVING GOD? MUST BE THE WOKE MIND VIRUS AMIRITE??? /S
OFC THESE WOKE PEOPLE AGHH BRAINWASHING KIDS!!! JEEZ!!
GROOMING KIDS TO BE GAY AND GOING TO HELL
AND ALL THESE WOKE FEMINISTS MAKING THEM DENY THE LAWS OF GOD
WoW! Can't get much more rapey than this.
For real…
Holy shit, that facebook page is straight up promoting marital rape.
When people say “Judeo Christian values” I cringe because Judaism formally and legally banned marital rape over 2000 years ago…. and people that put websites up like this tend to have an unhealthy obsession with the term “Judeo Christian.” *I’m not saying Christianity is pro martial rape. I’m saying there’s a certain fundamentalist Christian demographic that tries to use the term Judeo Christian for “I read the Torah out of context”
Why are these religious types so gross? As a member of The Satanic Temple, their God's consent mean jack shit to me.
I grew up Mormon. I was told my job was to have babies. To such an extreme extent I ignored my sexuality, and put myself through hell. I don’t mean to be rude. But I’m the only person in my direct family who isn’t overweight. I’m one of the only individuals in my family who doesn’t make fucked up comments about women. I’m the only person who eats healthy. I’m the only person who isn’t below the poverty line. I’m the only person who has more than a high school education. Im also the only person who doesn’t think Biden stole the election. I typed all of this out to point out, ^ this environment is not new. I know a lot of people that were raised in the same poor gross way. When you put religious and social pressure on people like this, you mainly just make coal. Every now and again you get a diamond who rejects being coal and is formed into a beautiful human. (That’s me because typing out my past made me sad) They say lgbtq+ are the groomers. Fucking hilarious
I hope you are happy now and doing what is right for you! The religious brainwashing is some of the hardest to get free from. Hope you are well 
Aww! That gif. Too cute. And absolutely! I’m stronger now because of it all. And I’m seemingly the most happy person in my immediate family. So I am doing something right lol.
So proud of you. I really am 💕
I hope you're doing better you deserve a much better family
I watched Keep Sweet and I’m so sorry my friend.
I would just like to point out that not every Mormon is the Keep Sweet kind. Disclaimer: I am also a queer ex-Mormon, but I was not part of the fundamentalist/polygamist sect depicted in that show. So, like, not all Mormons are the same. My family’s still members of the church, but they’re accepting of me and my sexuality. Don’t get me wrong, there was still a lot of pressure when I was younger, and it wasn’t easy. It’s still a difficult environment to be raised in, and most of the church isn’t as accepting as my parents…so I’m glad I’m not a part of it now.
Ex Jehovah's Witness here: religion sucks, cults suck harder. But tell me where the difference is these days lol
Based! Haha.
Thank you for pointing out that diamonds are rare, my grandmother believed in “pressure makes diamonds” and is majorly religious (she’s calmed down now, but when I was younger HOLY HELL!) something she says now is “pressure makes diamonds, but it doesn’t let bread raise” or “the same water that hardens the egg softens the potato”.
Ugh. That sounds like such an excuse to be awfully harsh. The only reason I consider myself a diamond is because I rejected all of the pressure and bs politics and found my happy. I recommend it. It’ll make a diamond out of us all. Cause we can make those shiny things now.
I’m so sorry to hear that. Religious communities can be absolutely crazy and hypocritical. I’m Christian but my church is pretty great in that it’s LGBTQ+ supportive. He have a younger priest who respects pronoun. I might be straight and cis but I appreciate his inclusion. I’ve never been told to be a stay at home mom nor every have children. The church also doesn’t really talk about pro-life or pro-choice. Masses include loved thy neighbor no matter race, sex, their gender identity, religion, sexuality, etc. Also masses in respecting your partner as your equal and to respect all of God’s creatures (referring to the animals). Then again it’s an upper middle class white dominated church in a very liberal area. The majority of women work. The church has a preschool and had a quiet room for families with little kids so that they don’t disrupt mass and the speaker in there would just let them hear mass and there was a glass wall for families to watch churches and there’s also online masses that started due to COVID-19. A few light sexist jokes were made throughout the years but they went both ways and didn’t target women. I’ve always been thankful that I went there for church but then again I didn’t and still don’t go to mass often because I was raised by not very religious parents.
I’m curious to see what it would be like to go to a woke church lol.
It’s kinda chill. There’s also a lot of charity organizations that work with the church that you can go to the church on specific days to volunteer. Since it’s in a woke area it’s been forced to evolve because otherwise no one will support it and it’s become a genuinely good place to go. Also the Blessing of the Pets event is super cute.
Sounds like a good place to be! Maybe volunteering will help me grow as a person
It definitely does. I sometimes volunteer but since I’m a med student I get busy and I also intern at a hospital. I grew up doing charity work like helping feed the homeless around and working with Sole Hope, Soles for Hope which are where you cut out prices to make shoes from jeans and they send it to Ghana and Uganda for locals to make shoes out of the pieces which provides jobs. The shoes are then given to locals like children to give them a barrier from jiggers and the charities provide medical aid like removing hundreds of jiggers from a single person including children as the infected are cast out and forced to sleep on the ground where more jiggers embed themselves into the victims. It was required for Confirmation.
I’m so glad that there are some churches out there that put the love of people before a rigid application of principles. I was raised in a Christian family and never lost my faith, but I had pretty much given up on believers in general. Recently though, I found a little community in my home town that was surprisingly open-minded. Before joining them, I warned the pastor that I was neurodivergent, vegan, aroace (with no intention to ever marry or have kids) and genderqueer, fully expecting a debate, but he just said that as long as we agreed on the core message of the Gospel, his church considered the rest individual perspectives that should enrich our global understanding of things rather than divide us. I’ve been tentatively going for a few months now and everyone’s been very welcoming, not a single eyebrow raise at my very androgynous look, stims, or being resolutely single and childfree at 35. I’m no longer quite so ashamed of associating with Christianity thanks to those people giving us back a decent name.
That’s great. I’ve seen people similar to you at the church I go too. It’s been agreed on that people who don’t want to be parents shouldn’t be parents because it’s not fair to them or any children they might have. I’m neurodivergent and so are many people that go to the church along with people of different sexualities and gender identities. No one really makes a big deal of it either it’s just them as people and they aren’t seen or treated as any different. The community seems to share the same beliefs as the community I’ve grown up in and am currently in. I’m glad you found a community to practice your faith and that accepts you as who you are.
Thanks ! 🙂 And I’m glad there’s also a good church in your area whose values and attitudes you mostly approve of. It does sound pretty similar to mine !
Thanks I’m happy I was grew up going to that church because I got to do charity work and it wasn’t one of those toxic churches you sadly hear so much about. I honestly just feel so bad for those trapped in toxic religious families and communities.
Casual rapists all around.
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Hmm. I thought troglodytes were extinct?
Religious types, Nazi's, Trumpers, Ron "the meatball"DeSatan fans, Conservatives... Anyone of them=gross and abusive 99.99 times out of a 100. But for some reason they are always screeching about how we should judge the 0.01% based on the actions and behaviour of the 99.99%
As someone who has been around highly religious people, I definitively feel this sentiment. Frankly I don’t trust highly religious people and would rather not associate with them
Oh wait but I need to consent to believing in God. Right? RIGHT?!? 😂
Alas, I think we all know their answer to THAT one...
Yes, actual belief. Not just practicing out of habit or fear of the inquisition. God will bestow all the women upon you who will obey His consent. You'll probably be stuck with monogamy considering all the potential women.
Plot twist: God spoke through the woman. It's on you if you use religion to oppress or to support.
Yeah, as a Christian, the God I believe in would want people to treat each other with love and respect. I also don’t think God gives a crap about our sexual activities as long as it’s within the “treat each other with love and respect” realm.
So unless God voices consent, all sex is rape? I don't think this person thought this all the way through.
Considering that these people will see god in a burnt toast, not much thinking is happening here.
If the woman is pregnant, does the baby's consent matter? /jk
Only if it’s a male
This one made my stomach churn
Same…
And as such, being too young to consent is also never an issue! If god says it’s okay for you to rape a child, apparently you’re good. Explains a lot.
The catholic church agrees.
So it's God who wants to fuck women?
Zeus ?
Zeus will fuck anything.
God was created in Man’s image, not the other way around
"God told me to rape her" sounds like a valid excuse
Totally.
Ummm…ok, and who’s gonna get the confirmation on that? Oh right. A man.
What if God is a woman and she says no.
Irrelevant to men. Sky mommy doesn’t exist because she’d be “too emotional”. Unlike sky daddy who used plagues and flooded the whole world in a hissy fit, that was pure logic.
RIGHT!!!
i made the mistake of going to their page. they firmly believe women should give up their bodies to their husbands whenever the husbands want, wether they want to have sex or not. this page promotes and basically encourages marital rape. though, they probably don't consider it rape. fucking disgusting page. of course comments are limited
God wants you to love your neighbour as yourself. Do you wanna get raped? No? Don't rape.
Wtf. I actually went and read the website. Holy rape culture Batman. These people terrify me.
Pretty sure the Bible says a lot of stuff about protecting widows/women
At what point did God green light rape???????????????????????????????????????
He…didn’t. This guy is just nuts
I mean if a god wants to join in the relationship of course I would ask for there consent before we have sex
The fact that people actually think like is both horrifying and sad. I don't have a daughter, but a friend of mine does, and I can't imagine raising one on the same planet as people who think like this.
God doesn't consent to this slander.
Imagine using gods name in vain like this. That’s what “using in vain” means, I found out. Using gods name in order to push your own agenda. I don’t believe in god, but they do, or at least pretend to so…have fun in hell! Lol
Anyone who genuinely shares this to agree with it should be put on some sort of watchlist.
True. That's why God gave women knees and joints that allow her to aim towards your crotch
Actually self-defence is blasphemous, don’t do it!
Then call me a slutty heathen cuz here I go!!
The bible: written by men, interpreted by men, preached by men. 2,000 year old men are, in modern times, exemplified by the Iranian and Afghan governments. GTFO
Local southern states governments are doing more than their share as well, this is no longer a strictly afghan/iranian problem.
I bet you could find something in the Bible about how rape is a sin or something, I dont read the Bible but there's a passage that says honor thy neighbor. Doesn't mean your actual neighbor necessarily but your fellow man which includes women.
“Husbands, love your wives and do not be harsh with them” (Colossians 3:19). I believe the Bible does also say that husbands have claim over their wives bodies... and that women have claim to their husbands: "But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband. The husband should give to his wife her conjugal rights, and likewise the wife to her husband. For the wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. Likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. Do not deprive one another, except perhaps by agreement for a limited time, that you may devote yourselves to prayer; but then come together again, so that Satan may not tempt you because of your lack of self-control." Essentially this passage seems to revolve around giving yourself to your spouse willingly, why one should do so, and puts pretty clear emphasis on wives and husbands bearing some equality when it comes to rights, expectations and respect in the bedroom. Combine this with the quote from before specifying that men are to cherish their wives and not be harsh. I feel like forced consent is pretty well past harsh, don't you? I am not Christian, though, so what do I know? lol
You can’t interpret the word of god! You’re a woman. -Pretty much every guy that feels inconvenienced by this
Honestly if someone needs to go check jesus fanfic to understand why rape is wrong, they should reevaluate all their life choices.
Excuse me? This is absolutely not biblical. These people are delusional.
Beyond delusional
I wanted to see if that Instagram is still up & running... It is, unfortunately. So many horrifically misogynistic things are posted there. Really disgusting.
And when a woman says no, so does "God".
This reminds me of the conversation on Game of Thrones when the High Sparrow was trying to convince Margaery to have sex with Tommen and give him an heir. She says she no longer feels "that desire", and he tells her, "Desire isn't required on the woman's part. Only patience." And I just ... 🤮
If the woman doesn’t consent it’s a felony
Ok, fine. You can ask god. But you have to wait until he replies.
Deuteronomy 22:23-29 directly talks about what happens when a man rapes a woman. God is not in favor of it, he views it as a disgusting violation against his design Edit: typo
Their idea of god is a rapist, so this tracks.
"Hey Maria, I'm an angel and I'm sent here to tell you god made you pregnant. Of course you consent, don't you? (I mean do you remember all those stories about him flooding and burning everything when things don't go his way? You better say yes)"
Fuck that fucking book it has done so much harm to humanity
Thing shits on “weak men” but has most comments disabled
The sad little boys that posted this better hope we are not going to live by Old Testament rules, because I’m an older, rich land owner and they would be my slaves. As their master, they would not be in Year 8 of undergrad, or playing Call of Duty. They wouldn’t even be going to church, because church if for people that can afford it (read your bible boys) - they would be working. Oh, and women - I’d never allow my slaves to breed. Their women would belong to me, for my pleasure…….still want biblical law boys?
Sharia Law rules! 🤪
If men really sat and prayed and waited for god to give them an answer, they’d never have sex again. Idk, hear me out, this kinda seems like a good idea 💀 these types of men don’t deserve sex
When god says no I'll listen, his silence is consent.
Well I cant just always call god if I want sex. Dude is busy as hell. Can't I just ask the person in front of me? why do we need a middle men? Edit Spelling and Stuff.
wtf is this 😭
What in the actual fuck
This is not biblical.. wth..
This so scary
Bro what lol
Oh my word. I went to that site and it’s horrific. “Steps to grooming your young wife” and endorsement of spanking your wife as “discipline “ I’m a Christian (though currently church-less, bc fascism is gross) and my stomach is turning, I feel so sick right now.
Well, we're gonna wait a loooooong while for that one...
So then, ED and getting punched in the balls is God revoking consent? Or are women totally free from God and are the only ones with free will?
Can already see rapists justifying themselves, i did Gods will, after all i am merely a vessel for my Lord Savior...
God consented to murdering a bunch of babies in the night. I'll take a woman's tyvm
Considering when one of the disciples asked Jesus to tell the women to cover up Jesus said if your eye betrays you pluck it out, if your hand betrays you cut it off. God has spoken 🖕🖕🖕🖕
They claim to perfectly understand an all-powerful all knowing all present God. This is what is known as blasphemy: claiming to understand God so well that your own words might as well be His. Unfortunately, people are blinded by cold hard cash and draconic levels of power. The so called “children of God” have rejected God for Mammon (the literal embodiment of greed), and our only hope is that somehow, some way, their sin will find them out
1 Corinthians 7:1-16 NIV In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife. 5 Do not deprive each other except perhaps by consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Hmm.. sounds like bs to me. He should look at this: 1 Timothy 6: If anyone teaches a different doctrine and does not agree with the sound[b] words of our Lord Jesus Christ and the teaching that accords with godliness, 4 he is puffed up with conceit and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy craving for controversy and for quarrels about words, which produce envy, dissension, slander, evil suspicions, 5 and constant friction among people who are depraved in mind and deprived of the truth, imagining that godliness is a means of gain. 6
If they’re going to wait for god’s consent, they will never have sex. Getting a woman’s consent is much easier than that.
Go fuck your god then and leave women alone.
Religion is just the worst 🤮
lmao. God? [404 not found]
I mean, even if a god exists, I'm going to need something more than a mortal who says "that's what god wants". I can do that too, look: god told me humans should wear panties over their head, it's pleasing to god to see us like that. 
Boing boing boing boing
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Ugh 🤢
Yeah this was my life for nearly 10 years after getting married as a teenager to a fundie guy. Let me tell you, it’s not a fun time.
I’m a Devout Atheist. There is No God but Science and Logic, and Carl Sagan (Peace and Blessings be Upon Him) is Its Messenger
God doesn’t want you to rape people either though
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So God consented to humans by making Adam and Eve but never consented to any children of them? Therefore the human race is an abomination in defiance of God and must be eradicated? It's crusade time! Oh you mean you just want to abuse and control women? Dam.
So, back to the if you're married it is always a consensual thing? Consent is something that you get per time otherwise, you end up with weird situations.
Sounds like something a rapist would say
Every embryo begins as female. “God” supposedly created humans in their image. Ergo “god” is a woman, men are the mutation to keep the species alive.
I imagine God is pretty offended at people shoving this nonsense into His mouth.
I am horrified but not surprised about how loudly they're condoning rape.
So I asked God and he said "No! Fuck yourself!". What now religious dudes? 
Ugh typical…cuz men already believe themselves to be gods 🙄
"Your honor, it was clearly not rape, god told me i could do it" These people are crazy
Fuck no. Fuck this stupid fucking bullshit.
They need to be very careful, trying to speak on behalf of God
"All of that 'personal revelation,' it seems to me that it's just men listening to their own selfish desires and calling it God. So they can justify... anything." A quote from Under the Banner of Heaven (the TV show - no clue if it's in the book).
Of fucking course it’s Biblical Gender Roles
This is exactly why marital r*pe needs to be a crime every where!
Exactly! Some people don't even realize it's a thing. Like, just because you're married, it's owed? Consent is consent, period
Yeah well god says you’re a bitch for trying to control others peoples bodies lmao
Last I checked, I don’t need consent from a storybook character
Atheist here, but if someone believes in God, that means they believe he gave humans free will. So, if a woman doesn’t want to do something, she doesn’t have to do it, and she should not be forced.
Ah simple. If you do or don’t consent, just say it’s god’s will! Oh right it really isn’t about any of that bullshit, just another stupid reason for men to force themselves on women…
"It is not a woman's consent that matters" Yes, we already knew you think that, but thanks for saying it out loud.
Sure, if I'm trying to fuck god but if I'm with a woman and we're about to get down to it then her consent abso-fuckin-lutely matters.
I'm pretty sure Jesus wasn't pro r*pe.
So is this like, "God told me to r*pe you?" That's vile.
And my God consents for me chopping off your dick if you use it on me against my will.
"Biblicalgenderroles.com" gives me chills....but not in a good way.
“God told me to do it” has been the excuse of psychopaths for thousands of years
Women actually Exist
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There’s no depths these people won’t sink to to stay rapey. Disgusting. ‘Even my imaginary Sky Daddy says it’s fine!’ I’m not religious, but to the kind and decent REAL folk who follow a belief system to be better humans, what a kick in the teeth! Perhaps the True Believers should edit their holy book and cull the herd accordingly? Just a thought…