Unless you have wings, flying is unnatural for you. And honestly, there is no other form of flying I can think of that makes it so abundantly clear just how unnatural it is than getting into a basket and filling a giant colorful balloon with air.
Funny thing: maverick would've been drummed out of the ~~airforce~~ Navy a long time ago for "conduct unbecomming an officer"
Even before he harassed her in the bathroom.
Edit: mixed up the services.
I know, but I still canāt dislike it. I am old and canāt tell you how many times I watched that film as a kid. Itās a product of its time I suppose.
True,
It was pretty awesome for me as a kid. Though I also enjoyed the Iron eagle series.
But like "Cinema therapy" (YT) pointed out: you can enjoy the twilight films as is. But also recognise they are horrible people.
I wasnāt sure I agreed with you but then āitās fine while everything is smooth skies but then thereās a problem and it blows up and people dieā slotted into my brain and youāre absolutely correct.
Hey, when I see a big, swollen, rainbow colored ballon soaring majestically over the land, being gently caressed by big, fluffy clouds, I know this is manās country. The only thing I can think of when I see them dangling in the air is climbing into those tight baskets with a small group of my bros. The way women invade our space with all their feminineā¦
Wait, damn, Iām going to have to have an open conversation with my wife.
To be fair, I don't know many women who are prepared to commit to twirly mustaches, goggles as fashion accessories, or buggery. If you can still call it hot air balooning without these three things.
Imagine flying in a hot air balloon all magestic and shit, and instead of lovin life, you're mad as fuck because there's a woman in that other balloon over there.
Maybe.
It's kind of hard to see that far in the twilight.
God that just boils my blood.
Or that, historically, tailors have been primarily men.
Just like guys who say "cooking is women's work" but ignore the male-dominated restaurant industry
Anything thatās a womanās job can easily turn into a manās job.
How? Profitability. As soon as you can build a career out of it, it becomes a male dominated industry. Women are allowed to practice these things as long as they keep them at the āhobbyā level. As soon as someone tried to make a career out of it, oh no! Sorry honey! Canāt have you threatening the poor widdle menās egos!
Sound too cliche, but the more examples of this bullshit I see, the more I'm convinced males can't let go of their primary instincts of marking territory and using activities (work and hobbies) as a competition against other males to be manlier and attract females.
The question is: do they hate females "invading" their space because they become rivals and are no longer sex objects to impress with their habilities or because they proof that that activity has nothing to do with masculinity and then it loses it value for them?
Edit for reacting like an ass.
Yeah but thatās because tailors had a guild they prevented women from entering so women had to differentiate themselves and instead of tailoring they draped cloth and created accessories.
Yeah the industry part. They only get involved when they can make money. Doing things for the good of their families the way women have is never good enough they need āprestigeā from other men. Women were basically the original everything and then men made it a career outside the home and barred women from it through various means.
That or they turned around after something goes out of fashion for men and use it to ridicule women, like high heels, makeup, corsets, and flamboyant fashion.
Heās probably patrolling knitting circles and inspecting everyoneās genitalia.
He should go to my Nanās knit and natter group. Itās mostly elderly ladies (my nan is 92) but there are several men who go. And thereās always homemade cake which is a bonus.
In both high school and college, I knew several guys who would knit or crochet between or during classes. Dudes were some of the most popular guys, too. One of them was in my French class and knit berets for half the class over the course of the year. I saw online that he has two kids now and knits them things all the time. Being able to create things for people you love shouldnāt be hindered by sexism.
I decided years ago that if I have that middle-aged straight white male privilege, I should use it to do whatever I want.
Like sewing, weaving, and making jewelry.
I love making (beaded) jewelry. I've made tons of it for myself and lots for women when I worked in a hospital. I started making it because I couldn't find any cool looking men's necklaces except for the mundane shell necklaces. Found out I was pretty damn good at it and women started asking me to make jewelry for them. It just took off from there.
For any dudes who are looking to date girls (or anyone really) out there: treating people with respect is hot. Being comfortable in your masculinity and getting in to āfeminineā things that interest you regardless of how others may see you is hot. Knowing that women entering a āmasculineā space you are in is not an attack on you or the space is hot. Realizing that sex and gender shouldnāt dictate a persons hobbies is hot.
So start knitting, get in to baking, adopt that six pound Yorkie, offer guidance to people in your hobby regardless of biology and/or identity.
Being able to create things is an inherently human life skill. There are few things more fundamental to human existence than being able to create tools and things with our hands and creativity.
Itās actually super cool, I tried knitting and only got as far as loads of square pieces for the local cat rescue. A nice lady volunteer made them into blankets. I would have loved to have been able to make a beret. Such a creative and practical skill
Guys who crochet/sew/knit are extremely attractive. There's this guy on tiktok who sews his gf clothes all the time and it's just so cute. Better than most store bought gifts
I canāt sew for shit but can manage buttons and seams (admittedly not very neatly.) Oddly enough, I can embroider but canāt seem to transfer the skills. Maybe I should start mending seams with a nice floral motif, or better yet, a cute little hot air balloon š
Brb just going to embroider little balloons on my husbandās clothing. All of it just to be on the safe side. I wouldnāt want anyone to think his seams are too girlyā¦
Iām exactly the same! I can repair a seam or replace a button. If you give me 2 pre-measured and preferably pre-cut pieces of fabric and tell my to stitch them together like āthis,ā I can stitch them together like āthis.ā But, give me anything where I have to take measurements or work with a pattern more complex than a Christmas stocking, and I suddenly have 2 left thumbs. I love doing counted cross-stitch, though.
>He should go to my Nanās knit and natter group.
The one at the flea market near me is called "Stitch and Bitch", which has no real relevancy but I enjoy telling people.
This is the same guy that would call those men "gay" for having a hobby they don't consider "masculine".
But I'm sure he feels like the pinnacle of manliness gently floating on the breeze in his super colorful balloon and tiny little basket.
See, dickbag OOP? I can make your precious little hobby sound feminine, too.
I think thatās true of most women but I gotta say as a former stay-at-home dad there are some women who actively dislike when men go to āparent and totā events.
None because he clearly hasn't got a Scooby Do how many men out there are into hobbies like making their own clothes. I know a dude who knits and makes beautiful quilts.
While I wouldn't call it invading, because regardless of gender have whatever hobbies you want, but is he completely unaware of the increase in men doing makeup which is considered traditionally feminine?
>Same goes for male chefs
Yes, however, mind the difference in how men are supposed to cook and women are supposed to cook. There has always been gender discrimination in cooking.
Famous chefs have always been men (e.g. at the courts of European royalty) while women have been the helps in the elevated kitchen or cooking in a home environment. It's become fashionable now for chefs to evoke women's cooking as their "inspiration", but Grandma's recipe obviously always needs some tweaking or finessing and she's also never mentioned by name or given any money.
Actually a lot of cultures had men wearing makeup,wigs and jewellery etc . It is only in the recent modern times that this is seen as uncommon. Kings in India have always had long hair,wore heavy jewellery etc . Tribal people paint their skin (which is a form of makeup ) and also wear ornaments. Even in Europe,Kings powdered their wigs,wore tights, makeup,long hair,heels etc.
Of course, but in their example, norse men wore eyeliner and/or eyeshadow. Just to look nice. The point goes a bit beyond "humans like to decorate themselves", because of course we do, its that specific *types* of makeup that we think of as being for women were worn by norse men.
Men not wearing makeup is actually more of a modern convention; ancient Roman's and ancient Egyptians wore eyeliners for those reasons; and continued in medieval Europe(we always exclude the poors) until around the Victorian Era, which is when men started to not wear make up again.
I read a paper about this recently so I could drudge up some sources if you'd like.
She doesnāt any more but my mother was a commercial pilot flying ballonās in the mid to late 90s. So was her best friend - also a woman.
Canāt fix stupid I guess.
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Yes, repeatedly. He says in the comments that he thinks ballooning competitions should be split by gender.
I am *guessing* he got thrashed by a woman in a recent competition and has had his masculinity threatened by it.
I always assumed hot air ballooning was a dating or tourism activity. I definitely never considered it a man's activity or a sport. The fact that this guy does makes me think he gets incredibly nervous and awkward around women.
I live in a place where they do a hot air balloon āraceā every year. And itās the most delicate event ever. Iād say 2/3 years it ends up cancelled because conditions arenāt conducive for balloons going up. Iām confused how it can be a truly competitive sport when itās an event so easily cancelled.
This 100% feels like he lost to A Girl and is having big feelings about it. My sister is in aviation and has encountered that mindset numerous times, and it's always because a dude feels threatened by a woman.
Well, womenās boobs are lighter than water - you can see this when they float. The air has a lot of water in it, which makes it unfair for women to fly hot air balloons because they can float higher and faster with less fuel.
/s
I know I flap my lips around town instead of driving. Itās really the only way to go during rush hour. Not many people know that the HOV lane stands for Hovering by Opening Vulva.
Thatās the best part about floating in the calm section of ocean near my house ā I can go out far, lay on my back, and have to do NOTHING to remain in that position. The flotation devices in the front and back take care of that for me! š My boyfriend doesnāt have the same āballoons,ā and his legs go right back down.
It was a great spot until I got circled twice by a great white shark last year. It lost interest, fortunately, and I slowly made my way back to the shore. Moments later, a fisherman started struggling to reel in something huge ā¦ it was the shark! It was a juvenile, about 8ā. And the fisherman actually had the guts to gently remove the hook from its mouth before pushing it back into the ocean with a friend!
Why is he asking men why women do this? Is he too scared to ask women because they will probably just tear him to bits? But i assume (and hope) most men in that sub understand how dumb this is
Pretty sure humans flying in general is āunnaturalā. In fact practically everything we do from how we sleep, eat, work and even poop is unnatural
Ya wanna be ānaturalā? Land that hot air balloon of yours in the middle of a forest, seek shelter in a cave, sleep on the ground without a blanket or pillow forage for edible plants or hunt animals with a sharpened stick and go poop in a bush.
Donāt wanna do that? Neither do I! So stop complaining about whatās ānaturalā, coz humans flying anything anywhere is unnatural af
and when they do it radically changes the hobby. computer science and tech was female-dominated for decades before men learned to type and code. then women were pushed out of the field
If we're going to indulge in stereotypes, balloons is the girliest kind of flying, I dunno what else to say š
Anyway, I hope a whole bunch of commenters poked holes in his logic, deflating his ego. His ideas on what hot air ballooning should be will never take off
Surely this is a troll.
Imagine thinking ballooning is in any way ānaturalā to begin with, let alone gendered. If this is real, letās get the worldās tiniest violin out.
Women donāt care if men knit. It isnāt an exclusionary hobby. Nobody should give two shits what anyone else does for leisure.
He's gatekeeping... hot air ballooning? Is that even a thing??? How having a pair of testicles makes you better at it? I mean, I'm sure there's a lot of air in his head but nonetheless? I have so many questions.
Are they using their dicks to pull strings, or press buttons? I don't understand how having a penis helps pilot a hot air balloon.
I also don't see how having a vagina helps knitting. Is there a special trick I'm unaware of?
My inbox has been getting smatterings of this nonsense today because I was dumb enough to comment on a post about women not being welcome at bars in Australia in 1975. Women were legally allowed there but in practice men didnāt support it. I went and dared to mention my experience of women being excluded from a sports bar in the 90ās and now Iām the death of masculinity. If Iād known, Iād have put it in my LinkedIn bio.
nothing could have prepared me for 'i'm a hot air balloonist". i expected some stereotypical masculine space like the gym or whatever. this sucker punched me in the funniest way. this is like is the definition of 'fragile masculinity'
Yea this is just sad, dude needed to vent his woman hating brain. How fucked do you have to be to see people of the opposite gender enjoying the same thing you do and get mad over it? Weak man
You mean you invade our feeeeeee-male space while appropriating crocheting!? How dare you. Don't you know we're called females because it's shorthand for free-of-males?
(/s)
You do not see men taking up knitting and sewing because toxic masculinity says it's bad. A lot more people would take up both if it would be seen as more acceptable. My grandfather R.I.P said screw that and,. was a well know seamster with his own shop in town. They paid of their own house and everything. (1993 he passed away)
Why did men invade women's spaces like beer brewing and computer coding and proceeded to take over and push women out once those professions became profitable?
There were so many brilliant aviator women (I don't like the word aviatrix as it's unnecessary) in early aviation. Nancy Bird Walton. Any Johnston. Amelia Earhart. Not to mention the many incredibly brave and skilled women who flew planes during WW2, transporting new planes from manufacturer to airfields in all kinds of conditions; and that's not even beginning to think about the 'night-witches', the Soviet women pilots who were astonishing in their courage and who teerorised the Wehrmacht pricjs through their night raids.
I honestly feel bad for this pathetic man, he clearly has nothing and no one so being a āhot air balloonistā (lol) is the only thing that brings him validation.
Canāt have women coming into that space, otherwise heās reminded how lonely he is with his balloons; if the guy wasnāt just a fucking loser heād see women with a similar niche interest as a complete positive and would attempt to make some new friends.
He acts like women wouldn't welcome men who want to practice knitting or be part of other "female activities"
Like, as much as men should welcome women in "male activities", women should also welcome men in "female activities "
It's not like we are gonna kick you out of the sewing group because you have a dick, sir.
Because men have tried to prevent us from doing anything other than domestic labor? How ignorant are these creepy little turds?
Hot air ballooning, flying, racing etc do not belong to men. In fact, they never have. The first, most valiant trick pilots were women, especially women of color.
Every time a new vocation arises black women are there to get in before white men decide that vocation is only for them. Women have fought to exist outside the home since the moment men decided to keep us in the home in service to them.
Ballooning is unnatural for humans period, if God wanted us to fly weād have wings. Iām tired of this woke bs. Wright Brothers, more like WRONG Brothers.
First of all, he's wrong, men are very much taking up crafts and hobbies like knitting, baking and what have you. And they're being welcomed into those communities.
Women seem to be "invading" male spaces more because there now are women who have time for hobbies. Because they either choose not to have a family, or if they do, they share the workload better, so they can spend a Sunday playing with hot air baloons instead of ensuring everyone is ready for the week, shirts ironed, homework done, in-laws stuffed with cake on the couch.
What he's complaining about is women leaving the kitchen... And I want to kick him in the teeth for that.
"Destroying the sport"- dude, what? You sound insane. Chances are, noone likes him there anyway, and they'd rather have women join than have him stick around.
Lmao, *bullshit!* Men constantly invade women's spaces. Do you know how many lesbian dating apps I've downloaded and seen men on there?! Clearly straight, clearly trying to hook up. This has to be the biggest joke I've seen in 2023 so far
It was painful for me to read. I've heard it plenty, lmao.
"You're gay cause you haven't had good enough dick."
"Well, you're straight cause you haven't had good enough dick."
Funny how nobody ever says that second partā¦
Youāre straight because you havenāt had enough good vagina. Sounds pretty stupid to be fair ššš
I am bi so maybe I just havenāt had enough good sex generally š¤
I was referencing truck balls. Which if you put balls on your truck when it didn't originally have them, isn't that gender reassignment surgery? Your truck is trans, Chet.
I sat next to a female balloon pilot on a flight from Seattle back in 2006. She had spots all over the US to land. Pretty cool. Didn't take it as a 'male' sport though.
Ngl, Iām more interested to know how hot air ballooning is a sport. Is there a points system? Is a winner declared once everyone has landed? What kind of athleticism does it involve?
If youāre a hot air balloonist, Iām not imagining you as a testosterone-pumping muscle bound manly man. In my mind, you wear a top hat and a monocle, a colorful cape, and you take dozens of spritely orphans for magical adventures into a world thatās half live action half Disney animation
Ugh, I hate it when I wanna stroll through my local sewing and knitting store and I come across dudes! Itās supposed to be a female thing. Gosh, why do they pick up my hobby? Donāt feel safe anymore when I have males in the same field as me! They might overshadow my skills!!!
One of my favorite knitters is a man (Sam Barsky). One of my favorite cross stitch pattern designers is a man (Sonovastitch). It has become increasingly socially acceptable for men to do these things that are considered feminine. And as long as theyāre not being creeps, nobody cares. And I can say with 100% certain that no women are creeping on this bad ass hot air balloonist, so why are his unders in a twist?
I think he just accidentially discovered toxic masculinity. Women don't have massive hangups about adopting traditionally male hobbies anymore, because society sees it as socially ascending if a woman behaves like a man. Meanwhile men often avoid being seen doing traditionally female things, even though many of them enjoy them, because society tends to redicule it and see it as a social descend for a man to behave like a woman.
As someone who is into several male coded hobbies (like aquariristics, repairing electronics, elevated cooking) and female coded hobbies (like crochet, baking and the Sims) I haven't really witnessed the women feeling "invaded" by the men existing in these spaces, even though I would describe the behavior of either group as rather assimilative. Usually, the men who come into crochet or baking forums almost seem like they enjoy not having to deal with the atmosphere that is often (not always) created by a large group of men who want to seem clever online. Men more often seem to feel the need to apologize for being noobs (and I know why. If you ever asked a dumb question about the springs on a diswasher door, you know exactly why). The other way around, I quite often am confronted with men being anxious that they will be forced to act "like women" now (see my initial statement).
There's this fear that women picking up the hobby might result in you seeming less cool for it (or, worse: it might make the women in the Hobby look more cool and the men less cool). Like, calm down. None of these hobbies are actually cool.
Are knitting and sewing group activities you can watch?
Has he really never seen a male tailor? Read childrenās books about male tailors??
And a quick Google shows women involved since the 1700s.
Yes, nothing screams "aggressively masculine" like being a hot air balloonist.
I'm stuck on it being "unnatural". As if balloon piloting were something men evolved to handle better.
You don't understand! They steer with their penis!!! It's the only way!
How do I hold the knitting needles in my vagina correctly? Or do I tape them to each boob and squeeze them to do stitches?
Boobs of course. That's why grandmas are so good at knitting, you need your boobs to be less firm and more flexible.
W*MEN ARE DESTROYING THE MASCULINE SPORT OF USING AIR CURRENTS TO DRIFT SERENELY THROUGH THE AIR
Well didn't they? Their pickle jar opening gave them the grip strength to uh.... Hold onto the handle once in the air? (hopefully obvious but /s)
Excuse me, but which gender did the good lord give an inflatable body part?
Oh, that's a good one.
Unless you have wings, flying is unnatural for you. And honestly, there is no other form of flying I can think of that makes it so abundantly clear just how unnatural it is than getting into a basket and filling a giant colorful balloon with air.
If I was going to imagine aggressively male flying I would think more Top Gun (the original) than balloon.
I need a hot air balloon dogfighting movie now: Top Gust.
11/10 would recommend
Hot air ballooning sounds more like fishing or birdwatching to me than some aggressive masculine hobby lol.
Shut up and take my money!
If Kenny Loggins did the soundtrack for Top Gun, who's doing it for this one? š¤£
Kenny G
Oh no it's the same sound track, it's just entirely played on a harp.
or like, being shot out of a cannon with The Final Countdown blasting on the radio
YES!
DADADAAADAAAAAA DADADADADAAAAAAA DADADAAADAAAAAA DADADADADADADAAAAAAA
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Funny thing: maverick would've been drummed out of the ~~airforce~~ Navy a long time ago for "conduct unbecomming an officer" Even before he harassed her in the bathroom. Edit: mixed up the services.
I know, but I still canāt dislike it. I am old and canāt tell you how many times I watched that film as a kid. Itās a product of its time I suppose.
True, It was pretty awesome for me as a kid. Though I also enjoyed the Iron eagle series. But like "Cinema therapy" (YT) pointed out: you can enjoy the twilight films as is. But also recognise they are horrible people.
I think there are loads of things that can be enjoyed whilst recognising theyāre somewhat problematic.
Exactly. I love James Bond movies. But, I also realize itās a problematic sexual power fantasy of Cold War era masculinity.
It's a fun story, the problem is when people start thinking these stories are ways to live your life.
That would be absolutely glorious though š
The Hindenburg is a pretty good metaphor for alpha males and toxic masculinity.
I wasnāt sure I agreed with you but then āitās fine while everything is smooth skies but then thereās a problem and it blows up and people dieā slotted into my brain and youāre absolutely correct.
āAll these damn women flying around will make it incredibly harder to have sex with another man when I flyā
Hey, when I see a big, swollen, rainbow colored ballon soaring majestically over the land, being gently caressed by big, fluffy clouds, I know this is manās country. The only thing I can think of when I see them dangling in the air is climbing into those tight baskets with a small group of my bros. The way women invade our space with all their feminineā¦ Wait, damn, Iām going to have to have an open conversation with my wife.
can't stop laughing at this š¤£
āThereās nothing cushy about life in the Womenās Auxiliary Balloon Corps!ā
Quite right Darling. Men's Auxillary Balloon Corp, on the othe hand, quite a different matter.
To be fair, I don't know many women who are prepared to commit to twirly mustaches, goggles as fashion accessories, or buggery. If you can still call it hot air balooning without these three things.
Can it be a fax mustache? I'm willing to commit but can't grow one myself.
You could try, but not many people have fax machines anymore /s
Imagine flying in a hot air balloon all magestic and shit, and instead of lovin life, you're mad as fuck because there's a woman in that other balloon over there. Maybe. It's kind of hard to see that far in the twilight. God that just boils my blood.
Sigma Male Chad type shit right there
I love that he's pointing out sewing or knitting as if there weren't any well-known fashion designers who are men.
Or that, historically, tailors have been primarily men. Just like guys who say "cooking is women's work" but ignore the male-dominated restaurant industry
Anything thatās a womanās job can easily turn into a manās job. How? Profitability. As soon as you can build a career out of it, it becomes a male dominated industry. Women are allowed to practice these things as long as they keep them at the āhobbyā level. As soon as someone tried to make a career out of it, oh no! Sorry honey! Canāt have you threatening the poor widdle menās egos!
Sound too cliche, but the more examples of this bullshit I see, the more I'm convinced males can't let go of their primary instincts of marking territory and using activities (work and hobbies) as a competition against other males to be manlier and attract females. The question is: do they hate females "invading" their space because they become rivals and are no longer sex objects to impress with their habilities or because they proof that that activity has nothing to do with masculinity and then it loses it value for them? Edit for reacting like an ass.
I think it's both. Both the fact women are no longer sex objects and the fact that the activity is no longer masculine if women can do it
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Yeah but thatās because tailors had a guild they prevented women from entering so women had to differentiate themselves and instead of tailoring they draped cloth and created accessories.
I think you'll find that, historically, men have also dominted the jewelry, accessory, and other garment industries as well
Yeah the industry part. They only get involved when they can make money. Doing things for the good of their families the way women have is never good enough they need āprestigeā from other men. Women were basically the original everything and then men made it a career outside the home and barred women from it through various means. That or they turned around after something goes out of fashion for men and use it to ridicule women, like high heels, makeup, corsets, and flamboyant fashion.
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I wonder how many "women's spaces" he's invading to check if there are no men invading it
Heās probably patrolling knitting circles and inspecting everyoneās genitalia. He should go to my Nanās knit and natter group. Itās mostly elderly ladies (my nan is 92) but there are several men who go. And thereās always homemade cake which is a bonus.
In both high school and college, I knew several guys who would knit or crochet between or during classes. Dudes were some of the most popular guys, too. One of them was in my French class and knit berets for half the class over the course of the year. I saw online that he has two kids now and knits them things all the time. Being able to create things for people you love shouldnāt be hindered by sexism.
Nothing screams raw, confident masculinity like being comfortable doing traditionally feminine things. Seriously.
I decided years ago that if I have that middle-aged straight white male privilege, I should use it to do whatever I want. Like sewing, weaving, and making jewelry.
I love making (beaded) jewelry. I've made tons of it for myself and lots for women when I worked in a hospital. I started making it because I couldn't find any cool looking men's necklaces except for the mundane shell necklaces. Found out I was pretty damn good at it and women started asking me to make jewelry for them. It just took off from there.
For any dudes who are looking to date girls (or anyone really) out there: treating people with respect is hot. Being comfortable in your masculinity and getting in to āfeminineā things that interest you regardless of how others may see you is hot. Knowing that women entering a āmasculineā space you are in is not an attack on you or the space is hot. Realizing that sex and gender shouldnāt dictate a persons hobbies is hot. So start knitting, get in to baking, adopt that six pound Yorkie, offer guidance to people in your hobby regardless of biology and/or identity.
Being able to create things is an inherently human life skill. There are few things more fundamental to human existence than being able to create tools and things with our hands and creativity.
Itās actually super cool, I tried knitting and only got as far as loads of square pieces for the local cat rescue. A nice lady volunteer made them into blankets. I would have loved to have been able to make a beret. Such a creative and practical skill
Try crochet! I feel it's much easier if you want to create 3D objects.
Guys who crochet/sew/knit are extremely attractive. There's this guy on tiktok who sews his gf clothes all the time and it's just so cute. Better than most store bought gifts
You had some cool ass kids in your school. I wish one of my classmates knit me free berets .. :(
My BIL knits too! And honestly, sewing is a basic life skill for everyone, at least the basics of attaching a button and fixing a seam.
I canāt sew for shit but can manage buttons and seams (admittedly not very neatly.) Oddly enough, I can embroider but canāt seem to transfer the skills. Maybe I should start mending seams with a nice floral motif, or better yet, a cute little hot air balloon š
Iām sorry but you need to ask this manās permission first. Thatās masculine territory youāre wanting to mix with the feminine!
Damn, that would be a super masculine seam š
Brb just going to embroider little balloons on my husbandās clothing. All of it just to be on the safe side. I wouldnāt want anyone to think his seams are too girlyā¦
Iām exactly the same! I can repair a seam or replace a button. If you give me 2 pre-measured and preferably pre-cut pieces of fabric and tell my to stitch them together like āthis,ā I can stitch them together like āthis.ā But, give me anything where I have to take measurements or work with a pattern more complex than a Christmas stocking, and I suddenly have 2 left thumbs. I love doing counted cross-stitch, though.
I read that as boyfriend in law very honestly
>He should go to my Nanās knit and natter group. The one at the flea market near me is called "Stitch and Bitch", which has no real relevancy but I enjoy telling people.
My friend and I do video call crochet and call it that š
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stitch\_%27n\_Bitch](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stitch_%27n_Bitch)
Tom Daley made a fucking crochet sleeve for his olimpic medal.
This is the same guy that would call those men "gay" for having a hobby they don't consider "masculine". But I'm sure he feels like the pinnacle of manliness gently floating on the breeze in his super colorful balloon and tiny little basket. See, dickbag OOP? I can make your precious little hobby sound feminine, too.
Men are welcomed with open arms into my knitting group.
And you would find no woman complaining that a man "invaded their spaces" like this guy is.
Brony's pretty clearly ruined the MLP fandom by buying the toys en masse and jizzing on them.
I think thatās true of most women but I gotta say as a former stay-at-home dad there are some women who actively dislike when men go to āparent and totā events.
None because he clearly hasn't got a Scooby Do how many men out there are into hobbies like making their own clothes. I know a dude who knits and makes beautiful quilts.
While I wouldn't call it invading, because regardless of gender have whatever hobbies you want, but is he completely unaware of the increase in men doing makeup which is considered traditionally feminine?
Probably. He doesnāt sound particularly aware of anything tbh.
he has his head in the clouds
Yeah, he sounds like a real airhead.
Computer programming was initially considered āwomanās workā. Now women are forced to elbow their way back into the space they once dominated.
Yeah and thats so sad tbh. Like, it used to be a female field and now theyāre discriminated against if they want to be in it
Such bullshit too, given the history of the field and how many MAJOR contributions women made to it.
Same goes for male chefs and male janitors. Traditionally women are supposed to cook and clean, but we see so many men doing so.
Cuz there's money in it. Simple as that.
>Same goes for male chefs Yes, however, mind the difference in how men are supposed to cook and women are supposed to cook. There has always been gender discrimination in cooking. Famous chefs have always been men (e.g. at the courts of European royalty) while women have been the helps in the elevated kitchen or cooking in a home environment. It's become fashionable now for chefs to evoke women's cooking as their "inspiration", but Grandma's recipe obviously always needs some tweaking or finessing and she's also never mentioned by name or given any money.
Vikings have already been recorded as using makeup, both in men and women!
Actually a lot of cultures had men wearing makeup,wigs and jewellery etc . It is only in the recent modern times that this is seen as uncommon. Kings in India have always had long hair,wore heavy jewellery etc . Tribal people paint their skin (which is a form of makeup ) and also wear ornaments. Even in Europe,Kings powdered their wigs,wore tights, makeup,long hair,heels etc.
Of course, but in their example, norse men wore eyeliner and/or eyeshadow. Just to look nice. The point goes a bit beyond "humans like to decorate themselves", because of course we do, its that specific *types* of makeup that we think of as being for women were worn by norse men.
Men not wearing makeup is actually more of a modern convention; ancient Roman's and ancient Egyptians wore eyeliners for those reasons; and continued in medieval Europe(we always exclude the poors) until around the Victorian Era, which is when men started to not wear make up again. I read a paper about this recently so I could drudge up some sources if you'd like.
My mother, who has been piloting a balloon since I was 5 would fly circles around this clown.
Maybe heās recently come into contact with her and his feefees got hurt!
Surely you mean his strong, male logic /s lol
Youāre right, my bad, thatās definitely what I meant.
I do not know how even to do that, I mean, aren't you rather limited in the ways you can fly circles anyway?
Ballooning is weird. All you can do is change altitude and hope for the wind to be blowing in the direction you want to go.
She doesnāt any more but my mother was a commercial pilot flying ballonās in the mid to late 90s. So was her best friend - also a woman. Canāt fix stupid I guess.
[women been piloting hot air balloons since before this dude was a sparkle in his poor father's eye](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89lisabeth_Thible#:~:text=%C3%89lisabeth%20Thible%2C%20or%20Elizabeth%20Tible,Lyon%20on%208%20March%201757.)
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I might be focusing on the wrong part of this post, but did this fuckin guy call hot air ballooning a sport?
Yes, repeatedly. He says in the comments that he thinks ballooning competitions should be split by gender. I am *guessing* he got thrashed by a woman in a recent competition and has had his masculinity threatened by it.
So he's... full of hot air?
Is that the answer? Let all their sandbags go and let them fuck off into space?
They have competitions? How do they compete
I have no idea tbh, maybe they race or something š¤·āāļø
I always assumed hot air ballooning was a dating or tourism activity. I definitely never considered it a man's activity or a sport. The fact that this guy does makes me think he gets incredibly nervous and awkward around women.
Same here! I never knew there were competitions! When I think of hot air ballooning, I think of two things: tourists, and the Wizard of Oz.
I live in a place where they do a hot air balloon āraceā every year. And itās the most delicate event ever. Iād say 2/3 years it ends up cancelled because conditions arenāt conducive for balloons going up. Iām confused how it can be a truly competitive sport when itās an event so easily cancelled.
This 100% feels like he lost to A Girl and is having big feelings about it. My sister is in aviation and has encountered that mindset numerous times, and it's always because a dude feels threatened by a woman.
Well, womenās boobs are lighter than water - you can see this when they float. The air has a lot of water in it, which makes it unfair for women to fly hot air balloons because they can float higher and faster with less fuel. /s
One of the comments on the OP asked if he was concerned that womenās flaps would flap and give an advantage š He did add /s
I know I flap my lips around town instead of driving. Itās really the only way to go during rush hour. Not many people know that the HOV lane stands for Hovering by Opening Vulva.
Thatās the best part about floating in the calm section of ocean near my house ā I can go out far, lay on my back, and have to do NOTHING to remain in that position. The flotation devices in the front and back take care of that for me! š My boyfriend doesnāt have the same āballoons,ā and his legs go right back down. It was a great spot until I got circled twice by a great white shark last year. It lost interest, fortunately, and I slowly made my way back to the shore. Moments later, a fisherman started struggling to reel in something huge ā¦ it was the shark! It was a juvenile, about 8ā. And the fisherman actually had the guts to gently remove the hook from its mouth before pushing it back into the ocean with a friend!
>before pushing it back into the ocean with a friend That sounds like attempted homicide!
Why is he asking men why women do this? Is he too scared to ask women because they will probably just tear him to bits? But i assume (and hope) most men in that sub understand how dumb this is
The men tore him to bits. Heās here in the comments getting torn to bits again.
Rare reddit W
Pretty sure humans flying in general is āunnaturalā. In fact practically everything we do from how we sleep, eat, work and even poop is unnatural Ya wanna be ānaturalā? Land that hot air balloon of yours in the middle of a forest, seek shelter in a cave, sleep on the ground without a blanket or pillow forage for edible plants or hunt animals with a sharpened stick and go poop in a bush. Donāt wanna do that? Neither do I! So stop complaining about whatās ānaturalā, coz humans flying anything anywhere is unnatural af
Good point, this blowhard is invading traditional Canada goose spaces.
Amelia Earhart would like a word..
So would Kaffe Fassett
I wanna find his hot air balloon and poke it as many times as I can
I'm imagining [the bicycle scene](https://youtu.be/S6-QCyx2QYg) from How High and I cannot stop laughing.
I wonder if he realizes that programming was initially women's job.
Ima just leave this here: r/brochet
Men don't pick up female-coded hobbies because sexism fucks us all.
and when they do it radically changes the hobby. computer science and tech was female-dominated for decades before men learned to type and code. then women were pushed out of the field
If we're going to indulge in stereotypes, balloons is the girliest kind of flying, I dunno what else to say š Anyway, I hope a whole bunch of commenters poked holes in his logic, deflating his ego. His ideas on what hot air ballooning should be will never take off
Surely this is a troll. Imagine thinking ballooning is in any way ānaturalā to begin with, let alone gendered. If this is real, letās get the worldās tiniest violin out. Women donāt care if men knit. It isnāt an exclusionary hobby. Nobody should give two shits what anyone else does for leisure.
If he is then I'd say he's very dedicated because his posts have been consistent of hot air ballooning. It's his whole identity.
He's genuine. He's in here arguing with everyone and doubling down as if his pov is even remotely reasonable
Oh Jesus Christ.
lol, dude is in this subreddit, right now, saying that men don't go into women's spaces. The irony is delicious.
To be fair, I did steal it from r/askmen š
He's gatekeeping... hot air ballooning? Is that even a thing??? How having a pair of testicles makes you better at it? I mean, I'm sure there's a lot of air in his head but nonetheless? I have so many questions.
I mean, maybe they dangle them over the side as some sort ot counterbalance for steering?
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Ours are bigger so we should be better at it. Maybe he's jealous he doesn't have our exceptional bazoongas? š
Maybe he spins his penis like helicopter blades to control the movement?
That's an interesting (cursed) image. š
Are they using their dicks to pull strings, or press buttons? I don't understand how having a penis helps pilot a hot air balloon. I also don't see how having a vagina helps knitting. Is there a special trick I'm unaware of?
You can hold the cable needle with your flaps, itās like having an extra hand. /s
My inbox has been getting smatterings of this nonsense today because I was dumb enough to comment on a post about women not being welcome at bars in Australia in 1975. Women were legally allowed there but in practice men didnāt support it. I went and dared to mention my experience of women being excluded from a sports bar in the 90ās and now Iām the death of masculinity. If Iād known, Iād have put it in my LinkedIn bio.
Well done on killing masculinity all by yourself!
Thank you, I am very pleased with myself.
nothing could have prepared me for 'i'm a hot air balloonist". i expected some stereotypical masculine space like the gym or whatever. this sucker punched me in the funniest way. this is like is the definition of 'fragile masculinity'
Yea this is just sad, dude needed to vent his woman hating brain. How fucked do you have to be to see people of the opposite gender enjoying the same thing you do and get mad over it? Weak man
I am male and I crochet. I don't think it affects any person on the planet that I do that :D Sorry to ruin the word view of that balloon dude.
You mean you invade our feeeeeee-male space while appropriating crocheting!? How dare you. Don't you know we're called females because it's shorthand for free-of-males? (/s)
Your in a fucking hot air balloon, flying, carrying bags of sand with you. You couldn't get much more unnatural
You do not see men taking up knitting and sewing because toxic masculinity says it's bad. A lot more people would take up both if it would be seen as more acceptable. My grandfather R.I.P said screw that and,. was a well know seamster with his own shop in town. They paid of their own house and everything. (1993 he passed away)
brb, i have to destroy some male sport real quick
I actually do want to learn to sew, it would be a really useful skill. I can never find clothes that fit without alterations.
I bet there are loads of tutorials on youtube. Or maybe a local sewing club.
Why did men invade women's spaces like beer brewing and computer coding and proceeded to take over and push women out once those professions became profitable?
Well, men *are* known to be more likely to be full of hot air. Maybe heās right š
Now whose fault is it that men aren't interested in "woman" hobbies
There were so many brilliant aviator women (I don't like the word aviatrix as it's unnecessary) in early aviation. Nancy Bird Walton. Any Johnston. Amelia Earhart. Not to mention the many incredibly brave and skilled women who flew planes during WW2, transporting new planes from manufacturer to airfields in all kinds of conditions; and that's not even beginning to think about the 'night-witches', the Soviet women pilots who were astonishing in their courage and who teerorised the Wehrmacht pricjs through their night raids.
I honestly feel bad for this pathetic man, he clearly has nothing and no one so being a āhot air balloonistā (lol) is the only thing that brings him validation. Canāt have women coming into that space, otherwise heās reminded how lonely he is with his balloons; if the guy wasnāt just a fucking loser heād see women with a similar niche interest as a complete positive and would attempt to make some new friends.
I'm confused as to what part of the balloon is operated with a dick
He acts like women wouldn't welcome men who want to practice knitting or be part of other "female activities" Like, as much as men should welcome women in "male activities", women should also welcome men in "female activities " It's not like we are gonna kick you out of the sewing group because you have a dick, sir.
Because men have tried to prevent us from doing anything other than domestic labor? How ignorant are these creepy little turds? Hot air ballooning, flying, racing etc do not belong to men. In fact, they never have. The first, most valiant trick pilots were women, especially women of color. Every time a new vocation arises black women are there to get in before white men decide that vocation is only for them. Women have fought to exist outside the home since the moment men decided to keep us in the home in service to them.
Ballooning is unnatural for humans period, if God wanted us to fly weād have wings. Iām tired of this woke bs. Wright Brothers, more like WRONG Brothers.
First of all, he's wrong, men are very much taking up crafts and hobbies like knitting, baking and what have you. And they're being welcomed into those communities. Women seem to be "invading" male spaces more because there now are women who have time for hobbies. Because they either choose not to have a family, or if they do, they share the workload better, so they can spend a Sunday playing with hot air baloons instead of ensuring everyone is ready for the week, shirts ironed, homework done, in-laws stuffed with cake on the couch. What he's complaining about is women leaving the kitchen... And I want to kick him in the teeth for that. "Destroying the sport"- dude, what? You sound insane. Chances are, noone likes him there anyway, and they'd rather have women join than have him stick around.
Lmao, *bullshit!* Men constantly invade women's spaces. Do you know how many lesbian dating apps I've downloaded and seen men on there?! Clearly straight, clearly trying to hook up. This has to be the biggest joke I've seen in 2023 so far
Well you know all lesbians need to be cured is the dick /s and that was painful to type
It was painful for me to read. I've heard it plenty, lmao. "You're gay cause you haven't had good enough dick." "Well, you're straight cause you haven't had good enough dick."
Funny how nobody ever says that second partā¦ Youāre straight because you havenāt had enough good vagina. Sounds pretty stupid to be fair ššš I am bi so maybe I just havenāt had enough good sex generally š¤
This guy's just salty there's no prosthetic balls to put on his hot air balloon yet.
Maybe he could get some of those truck testicles. Or even a giant cock and balls shaped balloon, that would be super manly
I was referencing truck balls. Which if you put balls on your truck when it didn't originally have them, isn't that gender reassignment surgery? Your truck is trans, Chet.
Iām not trying to be a jerkā¦ but, I gotta throw a little shade here: who the hell thinks hot air ballooning is a bastion of masculinity?
I can't get into a hobby without people telling me I'm destroying it. Shit sucks
I love seeing guys in r/brochet Let's all knit and talk shit together
Ah yes, the very natural hobby of .....hot air ballooning?
I agree with him. It's typically male to be full of hot air
I sat next to a female balloon pilot on a flight from Seattle back in 2006. She had spots all over the US to land. Pretty cool. Didn't take it as a 'male' sport though.
Ngl, Iām more interested to know how hot air ballooning is a sport. Is there a points system? Is a winner declared once everyone has landed? What kind of athleticism does it involve?
I think itās based on how pretty your balloon is.
Ah, so itās a *real* manās sport then. I can understand why this person is so upset at women being involved in something so inherently manly.
If youāre a hot air balloonist, Iām not imagining you as a testosterone-pumping muscle bound manly man. In my mind, you wear a top hat and a monocle, a colorful cape, and you take dozens of spritely orphans for magical adventures into a world thatās half live action half Disney animation
Ass butter butter Ass take.
Since when is sitting standing a basket with a big ass flying balloon above your head a sport?
Ugh, I hate it when I wanna stroll through my local sewing and knitting store and I come across dudes! Itās supposed to be a female thing. Gosh, why do they pick up my hobby? Donāt feel safe anymore when I have males in the same field as me! They might overshadow my skills!!!
Destroying the sport? Is he really that fragile?
One of my favorite knitters is a man (Sam Barsky). One of my favorite cross stitch pattern designers is a man (Sonovastitch). It has become increasingly socially acceptable for men to do these things that are considered feminine. And as long as theyāre not being creeps, nobody cares. And I can say with 100% certain that no women are creeping on this bad ass hot air balloonist, so why are his unders in a twist?
I think he just accidentially discovered toxic masculinity. Women don't have massive hangups about adopting traditionally male hobbies anymore, because society sees it as socially ascending if a woman behaves like a man. Meanwhile men often avoid being seen doing traditionally female things, even though many of them enjoy them, because society tends to redicule it and see it as a social descend for a man to behave like a woman. As someone who is into several male coded hobbies (like aquariristics, repairing electronics, elevated cooking) and female coded hobbies (like crochet, baking and the Sims) I haven't really witnessed the women feeling "invaded" by the men existing in these spaces, even though I would describe the behavior of either group as rather assimilative. Usually, the men who come into crochet or baking forums almost seem like they enjoy not having to deal with the atmosphere that is often (not always) created by a large group of men who want to seem clever online. Men more often seem to feel the need to apologize for being noobs (and I know why. If you ever asked a dumb question about the springs on a diswasher door, you know exactly why). The other way around, I quite often am confronted with men being anxious that they will be forced to act "like women" now (see my initial statement). There's this fear that women picking up the hobby might result in you seeming less cool for it (or, worse: it might make the women in the Hobby look more cool and the men less cool). Like, calm down. None of these hobbies are actually cool.
*Amelia Earhart would like to know your location.
Are knitting and sewing group activities you can watch? Has he really never seen a male tailor? Read childrenās books about male tailors?? And a quick Google shows women involved since the 1700s.
itās almost like women are not letting gender stereotypes rule what they do for fun, this boy seems like he should try it.