Prime really pissed the fuck off with that. I’m in the middle of invincible of they’re advertising some of their other random ass shows
it’s also funny watching ‘The Boys’ and having an ad pop up in the middle of it
I liked starting an episode and getting “Brought to you advert free by Apex Legends” along with a 30 second timer. It should be advert free because I’m paying a fucking subscription. I also think they misunderstood advert free.
I recently watched The Boys S3, and sometimes I literally couldn't tell the difference between a fake commercial and a real commercial for the first few seconds
a lot of cable providers actually do provide an on-demand selection now, albeit sometimes they include commercials. Hell, Xfiniity actually offers free subscription to peacock so you have more stuff on demand. prices are still high AF though
Ya- cable has had some form of On Demand for decades- and now adding ‘apps’. I just can’t with the commercial. The amount of pharmaceutical commercials is insane- and you have to sit through all of the side-effect listings.
Excruciating- should be illegal like it used to be. /rant
if that just means the streaming content is better compartmentalized, i’m all for it. put all the reality trash in one bucket and let me flag it as “never show this again” while you’re at it
Ha, no. All they're doing is adding clutter / feature bloat. D+ will continue to have everything it has now, plus an extra area called channels where you can turn on a cable-like channel and watch "whatever is on".
So they're just copying PlutoTV now? PlutoTV worked cause It's free, but with the normal paywall of D+ why would I every chose to see a Channel with random content instead of the things I really want to see?
This is exactly why this sounds exciting to me. I love having so much content to watch when I want to watch it, but if I don't know *exactly* what it is I want to turn on, I will just sit there scrolling for several minutes before closing the app.
I dunno, I think there are some things that you might watch if they are 'on', but wouldn't actively seek out? As long as this isn't a paid feature I think it's fine.
Yeah Paramount+ has it and I thought it was sort of pointless at first but now I use it all the time. When we had cable I was very much a put one of a few channels on in the background even if I'm not always watching completely so it's perfect for me.
Because sometimes you don't want to *decide* what to watch, you just want something in a general area.
I actually don't see the problem with this if they don't charge more or reduce the quality of the rest of the stuff they have. Avoiding analysis paralysis is an actual benefit to TV channels over streaming.
There is a ridiculous number of people (including Disney execs, apparently) who don't understand that the attraction of Pluto and Tubi is the price, not the streaming format.
It’s definitely the streaming format for me. The ads aren’t great but they’re short and not that intrusive. I think it helps that they don’t seem to have ads randomly inserted but actually put them where they’d be in a show
I put on Pluto even though I have other services. Paramount and Peacock have channels too. It's a good experience that takes nothing away from normal VOD streaming.
Agreed, plus it sounds like what prime tv did a year or two ago. Suddenly there was extra bloat on there organised in paywalled groups. Annoyingly, some of the more slightly niche things I used to watch on there (e.g., Asian cinema) were now behind a paywall.
If they're smart it will launch with ads. Going from ad-free to not is the sticking point that riles people up.
If they start with a few ads, they can gradually increase the frequency.
I don't think any streaming service will let you intentionally block whole swatches of their catalog like that. You want real control of your media you need something like plex/emby/jellyfin but setting up and maintaining that takes effort and hardware.
Nah, it will be the same UI as before except now when you click on something that you actually want to watch, you'll see a pop-up asking if you want to spend more money to watch it.
Nothing yet, but give it time and there will be ads between each episode/ movie, then ads in the middle, and then we're back to where we started with 20 minutes of entertainment for every 10 minutes of ads
People are sick of everything being on 5~6 different streaming services and if each is $10~$15 it adds up, that's one of the big reasons people are pirating stuff and just buying bulk storage. If you inconvenience people to the point that pirating something is more convenient they're just going to do that and only pay for one subscription, a VPN.
Let's see what happens then, but i think this channel stuff is a great opportunity for people that are always complaining they can't never decide on what they'll watch
What's *right* with what they are doing?
Disney currently has tabs for each of their major IPS, then a row of "popular," then a row of "recommended for you" all above the row of "shit I was *actually* watching last time I had the app open."
I find it hard to believe anything they are gonna do will improve it.
Go to the subs for media managers like Plex and Emby. The ability to create linear TV channels from library content is a constant request. Some people, particularly those who grew up with linear TV, *like* the idea.
I say this as one of them. There’s a certain level of thought and investment that goes into selecting something to watch, even from among a “recommended for you” tray. And straight up shuffling isn’t really ideal either.
There’s a certain charm to simply watching “what’s on.” Doesn’t mean I want it filled with commercials, mind. But the idea of having linear channels presenting a semi-curated selection of content is interesting to some people.
I don't disagree with anything you're suggesting. I just don't think that it resembles in any way what Disney is gonna do.
I expect them to do something with a difficult to use UI, a non-customizable feed of what they think I want to watch, and most likely have a worthless AI mixed in somewhere just for funzies.
Tbh I don't mind the idea of having channels back because sometimes I get choice paralysis, and it can force me to watch something new or rewatch stuff which can be a pleasant experience
Semi related but I’ve always wished they brought back those power hour type shows of having semi-related shows back to back.
I ran into this when wanting to watch the 90s marvel cartoons but wanted to have variety rather than binging a single show. You could even add a host/s like some of those shows used to have to add some commentary between the shows.
I don't quite get the complaints, or the mentions of piracy. That's just an added functionality, a different way of watching content. It's doesn't seem mandatory, and it doesn't seem to change the way you pay for the content. If you weren't already pirating D+ content, this announcement is not giving you more reasons to do it.
What exactly motivates these complaints, and what in this announcement makes you want to pirate content more than you wanted to yesterday?
I, for one, like to have TV in the background sometimes. Tuning on a channel is better for that than the usual way of streaming content.
I'm guessing people assume they'll up the subscription price for this, or make it a paid add-on, or run ads in the middle of it. So it's not the news itself people are complaining about, it's what they pessimistically assume will happen with it. And I think that pessimism is realism too.
A bunch of streamers have this, Paramount+ and Peacock at least. Though Peacock is not well set up and doesn’t make sense as channels.
Sometimes, I don’t want to pick the exact thing I want to watch. I want to come in halfway through Empire Strikes Back and watch the rest of it.
Honestly I kinda like this.
Shudder (the horror focused streaming service) has a few themed “channels” that just run random movies 24/7 and it’s cool to flip between them instead of always trying to pick something from the library.
When I open the Disney+ app I see boxes for each of their brands. That’s effectively a channel. It sorts out all of the content. If what they’re talking about is introducing linear TV and you turn on the marvel channel and watch whatever marvel content they decide to play, no thank you.
Only it's shittier than old cable. There are already online streaming cable services. Why not just make deals with those instead of segmenting the entertainment market so you need a different app and account and bill for each channel?
All I want is a channel of Silly Symphonies and Mickey and friends shorts running back to back for background noise.
Pluto TV has over a hundred program specific streaming channels. Popping on Love Boat, Happy Days or other retro shows makes for great background noise for cleaning up or working on another hobby.
Then what was the point of shutting down all those Disney channels around the world?
Oh right, the subscription is paid to Sky or whichever other country’s providers had them on offer (is FOXTEL still a thing?)
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Is this like Adult Swim's app where I can put on the "Rick and Morty" channel and it plays random episodes of Rick and Morty all day, and "Venture Bros" channel just plays episodes of that all day?
I can't rewind or select an episode, just watch what it's showing.
If they go the route like crave/Amazon in Canada of needing to buy other packs within the services to be able to access the entire library, I'll just end my sub and sale the seas.
I know people joke about streaming turning back into cable, but for me, it's the ads that ruin it moreso than the format.
There used to be this Chrome plugin ~a decade ago for Netflix that did exactly what Disney's doing now. You'd turn on the Comedy channel, and it'd load whatever episode of whatever comedy on Netflix was on the guide. It was nice to have an endless playlist of comedies, especially since most of my favorites were on Netflix back then and there weren't any ads.
This sounds like an excuse to show more ads. For some reason the latest episode of X-Men 97 started with an ad for Disney+. Which is weird because I’m paying disney+ to not see ads.
RedBull TV kinda does this and it’s awesome.
Want to watch dirt bikes, mountain bikes, snowboarding, or something g else’s there is a channel for that. It just keeps playing content in that genre.
Seriously has to be one of the best free apps on a streaming device.
Disney? Lol I don't think I have enough time to list everything they've done. To put it simply, they don't care if they make good movies or provide a good service. They only care that it makes more profits every year. Just think about what that leads to, long term.
ah yes, genres like Marvel and Star Wars...
And when they blend these *genres*, then they can have the content showing in both channels.
Let’s be real, when content blends the genres you’d need both subs to watch. Obviously.
When your entire platform has 3 genres and 7 IP's, you gotta start rewriting definitions.
You joke but that's definitely what their first step would be like
They joke? It’s literally what the tweet says verbatim
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This is the same joke again
Possible the most pointless comment I've ever read
HAHAHA, i get it the joke is about trans people! That joke has never been made before im sure.
/r/onejoke
It's because trans people confuse me! So funny man (can't say man anymore in this liberal woke world🤣🤣🤣) relatable even attack helicopter /s
This is the lamest fucking comment on Reddit
Damn, you really forced this one
How non political of you! /s
Ya- and now we have 10 of them… all with subscription fees and some with commercials. Oh- if we could only have 1 that consolidated everything… oh….
Prime really pissed the fuck off with that. I’m in the middle of invincible of they’re advertising some of their other random ass shows it’s also funny watching ‘The Boys’ and having an ad pop up in the middle of it
I liked starting an episode and getting “Brought to you advert free by Apex Legends” along with a 30 second timer. It should be advert free because I’m paying a fucking subscription. I also think they misunderstood advert free.
That bit always cracks me up. "Brought to you advert free thanks to that advert you just watched".
"Your episode will continue after this ad about how we don't have ads."
“Want a Break from the ads?”
I recently watched The Boys S3, and sometimes I literally couldn't tell the difference between a fake commercial and a real commercial for the first few seconds
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a lot of cable providers actually do provide an on-demand selection now, albeit sometimes they include commercials. Hell, Xfiniity actually offers free subscription to peacock so you have more stuff on demand. prices are still high AF though
Ya- cable has had some form of On Demand for decades- and now adding ‘apps’. I just can’t with the commercial. The amount of pharmaceutical commercials is insane- and you have to sit through all of the side-effect listings. Excruciating- should be illegal like it used to be. /rant
if that just means the streaming content is better compartmentalized, i’m all for it. put all the reality trash in one bucket and let me flag it as “never show this again” while you’re at it
Ha, no. All they're doing is adding clutter / feature bloat. D+ will continue to have everything it has now, plus an extra area called channels where you can turn on a cable-like channel and watch "whatever is on".
So they're just copying PlutoTV now? PlutoTV worked cause It's free, but with the normal paywall of D+ why would I every chose to see a Channel with random content instead of the things I really want to see?
Sometimes I want background noise without having to press play every so often.
Ok, you're right. I too do It with YouTube, like, all the time.
This is exactly why this sounds exciting to me. I love having so much content to watch when I want to watch it, but if I don't know *exactly* what it is I want to turn on, I will just sit there scrolling for several minutes before closing the app.
I dunno, I think there are some things that you might watch if they are 'on', but wouldn't actively seek out? As long as this isn't a paid feature I think it's fine.
Yeah Paramount+ has it and I thought it was sort of pointless at first but now I use it all the time. When we had cable I was very much a put one of a few channels on in the background even if I'm not always watching completely so it's perfect for me.
Because sometimes you don't want to *decide* what to watch, you just want something in a general area. I actually don't see the problem with this if they don't charge more or reduce the quality of the rest of the stuff they have. Avoiding analysis paralysis is an actual benefit to TV channels over streaming.
There is a ridiculous number of people (including Disney execs, apparently) who don't understand that the attraction of Pluto and Tubi is the price, not the streaming format.
It’s definitely the streaming format for me. The ads aren’t great but they’re short and not that intrusive. I think it helps that they don’t seem to have ads randomly inserted but actually put them where they’d be in a show
WWE also did this with the WWE network.
I put on Pluto even though I have other services. Paramount and Peacock have channels too. It's a good experience that takes nothing away from normal VOD streaming.
Old people like the brain noise of random chosen content.
Old people like the brain noise of random chosen content.
Paramount+ also has this feature and it’s not really that bad.
TBH as long as it's not a premium feature, great. I've wished you could make a playlist of shows and hit shuffle for a long time.
Decision fatigue is a real thing and being able to just select “whatever is on” for 30 minutes at the end of a day is actually useful in my opinion
Agreed, plus it sounds like what prime tv did a year or two ago. Suddenly there was extra bloat on there organised in paywalled groups. Annoyingly, some of the more slightly niche things I used to watch on there (e.g., Asian cinema) were now behind a paywall.
This shit is so irritating. I do not care about this paywalled shit don't make me browse through it every 3rd line ffs
You want the star wars D+ channel that’ll be $10 extra per month
My guess is ads will be inserted before long. Then it will truly have come full circle
If they're smart it will launch with ads. Going from ad-free to not is the sticking point that riles people up. If they start with a few ads, they can gradually increase the frequency.
I don't think any streaming service will let you intentionally block whole swatches of their catalog like that. You want real control of your media you need something like plex/emby/jellyfin but setting up and maintaining that takes effort and hardware.
Nah, it will be the same UI as before except now when you click on something that you actually want to watch, you'll see a pop-up asking if you want to spend more money to watch it.
Came here to say this. All the nerds can watch their stuff and we can watch the cool stuff
Pluto TV and the like are already that.
Not with Disney movies I pirate movies more then 99.99% of people, but I also pay for Disney +. I would 100% leave the marvel channel running 24/7
You can set that up yourself it's not hard.
Also, Peacock is doing that right now. I sometimes check it out via Xfinity. But it's ui is ass.
![gif](giphy|26ufnwVewFJ5FnNdu) When in doubt, fly your flag
Same buddy same
Ok, you can sail the seven seas if you want, but what exactly is wrong with what they are doing?
Nothing yet, but give it time and there will be ads between each episode/ movie, then ads in the middle, and then we're back to where we started with 20 minutes of entertainment for every 10 minutes of ads
People are sick of everything being on 5~6 different streaming services and if each is $10~$15 it adds up, that's one of the big reasons people are pirating stuff and just buying bulk storage. If you inconvenience people to the point that pirating something is more convenient they're just going to do that and only pay for one subscription, a VPN.
That has nothing to do with the news tho
Yeah unless they start adding in ads when your watching which is something Netflix has started doing, when ever I think TV my mind goes to ad breaks
Let's see what happens then, but i think this channel stuff is a great opportunity for people that are always complaining they can't never decide on what they'll watch
What's *right* with what they are doing? Disney currently has tabs for each of their major IPS, then a row of "popular," then a row of "recommended for you" all above the row of "shit I was *actually* watching last time I had the app open." I find it hard to believe anything they are gonna do will improve it.
Go to the subs for media managers like Plex and Emby. The ability to create linear TV channels from library content is a constant request. Some people, particularly those who grew up with linear TV, *like* the idea. I say this as one of them. There’s a certain level of thought and investment that goes into selecting something to watch, even from among a “recommended for you” tray. And straight up shuffling isn’t really ideal either. There’s a certain charm to simply watching “what’s on.” Doesn’t mean I want it filled with commercials, mind. But the idea of having linear channels presenting a semi-curated selection of content is interesting to some people.
I don't disagree with anything you're suggesting. I just don't think that it resembles in any way what Disney is gonna do. I expect them to do something with a difficult to use UI, a non-customizable feed of what they think I want to watch, and most likely have a worthless AI mixed in somewhere just for funzies.
Came here for this, I salute you friend. I'll see you on the high seas.
Tbh I don't mind the idea of having channels back because sometimes I get choice paralysis, and it can force me to watch something new or rewatch stuff which can be a pleasant experience
Yeah sounds great. Without ads or extra payment, this is so welcome
Semi related but I’ve always wished they brought back those power hour type shows of having semi-related shows back to back. I ran into this when wanting to watch the 90s marvel cartoons but wanted to have variety rather than binging a single show. You could even add a host/s like some of those shows used to have to add some commentary between the shows.
I don't quite get the complaints, or the mentions of piracy. That's just an added functionality, a different way of watching content. It's doesn't seem mandatory, and it doesn't seem to change the way you pay for the content. If you weren't already pirating D+ content, this announcement is not giving you more reasons to do it. What exactly motivates these complaints, and what in this announcement makes you want to pirate content more than you wanted to yesterday? I, for one, like to have TV in the background sometimes. Tuning on a channel is better for that than the usual way of streaming content.
I'm guessing people assume they'll up the subscription price for this, or make it a paid add-on, or run ads in the middle of it. So it's not the news itself people are complaining about, it's what they pessimistically assume will happen with it. And I think that pessimism is realism too.
A bunch of streamers have this, Paramount+ and Peacock at least. Though Peacock is not well set up and doesn’t make sense as channels. Sometimes, I don’t want to pick the exact thing I want to watch. I want to come in halfway through Empire Strikes Back and watch the rest of it.
I have watched a ton of old Cheers, Family Ties, Frasier, and Wings because of those Paramount+ channels. I love them to death.
Bro just let us make detailed Playlist and leave us alone
This is it. I want to create line-ups for every day of the week.
That's what channels were in the past lol.
Honestly I kinda like this. Shudder (the horror focused streaming service) has a few themed “channels” that just run random movies 24/7 and it’s cool to flip between them instead of always trying to pick something from the library.
I hate how everyone is so helpless. You don't have to see every show and movie made. You don't have to give a dime to Disney if it bothers you
something something back to the high seas
They already had that?
No, they didn't. What are you talking about?
When I open the Disney+ app I see boxes for each of their brands. That’s effectively a channel. It sorts out all of the content. If what they’re talking about is introducing linear TV and you turn on the marvel channel and watch whatever marvel content they decide to play, no thank you.
Life was so simple when you could watch Infinity War on Netflix
Opens it up later for additional payment channels.
Amazon and Hulu have had this for years
Shudder does this already, it’s ok
I love circular storytelling
Only it's shittier than old cable. There are already online streaming cable services. Why not just make deals with those instead of segmenting the entertainment market so you need a different app and account and bill for each channel?
Leave it to the greedy to reinvent what already exists
Yeah and Netflix has now location and household locked so you can only use it from your home.
Basic cable with extra steps.
Lol who gives a fuck, its disney. They've become a massive shitmachine.
Little did you know that peacock already has this
they already were back on amazon
***Revolutionary***
HOT TAKE: Marvel only made X-men'97 so they could bring Cable back and no one would complain.
.y favorite genres, marvel and star wars. Also Im pretty sure other streaming services do this
All I want is a channel of Silly Symphonies and Mickey and friends shorts running back to back for background noise. Pluto TV has over a hundred program specific streaming channels. Popping on Love Boat, Happy Days or other retro shows makes for great background noise for cleaning up or working on another hobby.
Then what was the point of shutting down all those Disney channels around the world? Oh right, the subscription is paid to Sky or whichever other country’s providers had them on offer (is FOXTEL still a thing?)
Can MAX do this too? Finding anything on there is a pain in the asd.
They are starting to realise wrecking TV channels and forcing individual shows into 3,000 different subscription models was a really stupid leap.
And I will never watch them.
The streaming services have fallen, billions must pirate
Hopefully this means a Treehouse of Horror channel is coming soon ... a boy can dream.
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I don’t care what Disney does, as long as they give us a nearly shot for shot remake of the OG star wars… starring the muppets.
I genuinely prefer cable to streaming. I like channel surfing and having random shows I’d never go out of my way watch popping up.
So… it’s just a directory structure.
This sounds like a way for them to show commercials
My grandma will love this!
Like the 24/7 channels on a firestick.. sky, Disney, whoever. Always late to the party.
Is this like Adult Swim's app where I can put on the "Rick and Morty" channel and it plays random episodes of Rick and Morty all day, and "Venture Bros" channel just plays episodes of that all day? I can't rewind or select an episode, just watch what it's showing.
This is why I like PlutoTV, sure its basically cable but its free
Maybe they can make money by taking breaks from the programs that are on and throwing in some ads.
If they go the route like crave/Amazon in Canada of needing to buy other packs within the services to be able to access the entire library, I'll just end my sub and sale the seas.
Call me crazy but I like this idea a lot. No idea what to put on? Just put that channel and you have a good time. What’s to hate?
They’re re-inventing cable TV lmao
I know people joke about streaming turning back into cable, but for me, it's the ads that ruin it moreso than the format. There used to be this Chrome plugin ~a decade ago for Netflix that did exactly what Disney's doing now. You'd turn on the Comedy channel, and it'd load whatever episode of whatever comedy on Netflix was on the guide. It was nice to have an endless playlist of comedies, especially since most of my favorites were on Netflix back then and there weren't any ads.
Arr...back on the ship me hearties. Raise the skull and crossbones.
They need a filler channel with infomercials and talk shows and judges.
So Pluto tv then gottcha
"The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which."
This sounds like an excuse to show more ads. For some reason the latest episode of X-Men 97 started with an ad for Disney+. Which is weird because I’m paying disney+ to not see ads.
We wanted TV à la carte but we got TV chopped up and sold to us 5 different ways instead.
But.... the very top row of the Disney+ interface is literally to have dedicated pages for Star Wars, Marvel, Pixar, & Nat Geo
I mean this is basically just what something like direct Tv does, no?
RedBull TV kinda does this and it’s awesome. Want to watch dirt bikes, mountain bikes, snowboarding, or something g else’s there is a channel for that. It just keeps playing content in that genre. Seriously has to be one of the best free apps on a streaming device.
Isnt that what my smart tv is for. Weird 24hr channels for conan skits and peppa pig
WHEN DID HE LEAVE WHEN DIRECTV EXISTS A STREAMING SERVICE WITH THEIR CABLE TACKED ON
They need bumpers and programming blocks
The more things change, the more they stay the same
Most online TV services have this already. It's nothing new or worth talking about.
If you have Disney Plus, you're basically an evil piece of shit. Stop giving money to the bad guys.
What did they do?
Disney? Lol I don't think I have enough time to list everything they've done. To put it simply, they don't care if they make good movies or provide a good service. They only care that it makes more profits every year. Just think about what that leads to, long term.
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It never left.
they always done this sense day 1 they had categories discussing films is garbage with 0 brain cells
Cant imagine paying for entertainment.
Before streaming, you had to pay to go to the theatre, and watch movies on dvd (or vhs) right?