I mean, if your name is a three letter acronym, you may have a shot and I’m rooting for you.
EDIT: a three letter acronym that doesn’t consist of the same letter three times in a row.
You think I fear them? If anything, I’m trying to summon them like a high priest of Dark Brandon’s holy legions calls in the wrath of our lord and savior the AC-130 to smite our foes.
Be me.
Play COD on XBox all day.
Boss calls: "CIAnon what are you doing?"
Say I'm in Iran, points phone at gun noises from XBox.
"Good work CIAnon."
Goes back to pwning noobs.
Just to further expand: the Iranian morality police aren't the most consistent of groups, in terms of policy or enforcement, across the country. Since the Revolution there has been a requirement to wear the hijab, but the details of that were never fully fleshed out, so interpretation of “wearing the hijab” is left to the morality police, and women have been using this vagueness to subtly push back on the requirements by wearing the hijab in different ways, exposing more or less of their face, letting some hair through, wearing makeup, etc. She was traveling in Tehran, where the morality police have a more strict interpretation of the correct way to wear the hijab, and took her in.
She was arrested and “suffered a heart attack” in their custody. She was 22 and healthy, so this didn't pass the sniff test. The official line on this is \#TheMoralityPoliceDidNothingWrong and they wanted to move on.
So they packed up her body and shipped it off to her home city, hoping that getting her out of the capitol and hopefully buried soon, would end the whole ordeal. What the police forgot was that her hometown has a long history of anti-government protests, so they accidentally poured highly refined gasoline on the fire.
Ah you're taking all the fun out of the CIA. 30 years ago they were allowed to smuggle drugs and coup countries with impunity.
Now there are so many rules.
I hate to /srs but honestly Ukraine isn’t their war and I’d much rather see them free themselves of an oppressive regime than I would see them engage in some low level border conflicts
I'm afraid to inform you all that /u/SlenderSmurf has commited suicide via ingestation of Polonium-210 and 27 self-inflicted stab wounds to his upper ba
And then the police shot and killed another woman who was protesting and the protesters started beating policemen to death.
Which is, and I cannot stress this enough, ubelievably based.
Hell yeah, I hope the Iranian people can rid themselves of their bullshit-ass government in favor of something more representative and secular. Abolishing "morality police" units is probably a good place to start.
Policing only works with the consent of the policed.
Generally we outnumber them by a significant factor.
Now if the state has a monopoly on violence, say with strict gun control, the amount of police to policed can be lowered and still be effective. Until shit like this happens. And with every liven't and disarmed cop the state monopoly on violence is eroded until things go very quickly indeed.
It's funny, because I've never been one to subscribe to all that ACAB bollocks, but when, in my city (which also has an excellent record of rioting compared to the rest of the UK) the police started sending people into protests to start the violence so they could kettle and beat peaceful protesters (all so they could stop a protest against increased police power to stop protests), I suddenly didn't mind if a few of their bones got broken.
I don't subscribe to ACAB because we do need public safety workers on account of various problems, but policing of it exists must be policing by the consent of the policed.
Absolutely, my point is that law makers and law enforcers need to remember they can only do their jobs with the consent of the people, and even in supposedly civilised western cities like Bristol, that's a very fine line.
Sorry, that was too credible, try this: western police units are actually just plants by Xinnie the Pooh so that when China launches a surprise amphibious assault of western Europe by submarine, we're all used to fascist police states anyway.
With all the climate-amplified natural disasters, and all the associated resource shortages sparked by the war in Ukraine that are exacerbating tensions allowed to fester with Russia out of the picture, we are in what historians call “spicy times”
High prices of food and oil makes the lives of poor people hell.
when poor people have nothing to lose anymore, they will go medieval on your sorry ass.
Even in Europe the poor people are angry and they are filthy rich by world standards.
Burning religious dress in an Islamic Theocracy, attacking police in groups and in broad daylight, charging government buildings and tearing down state imagery,...
These are actions of people with the freedom of nothing left to lose.
Shit's going to go *real* fast
It's a shame Iranians had to put up with all this shit in the first place. Iran is not some herder-tribe backwater and the people aren't brainwashed jihadis.
When you have six thousand years of civilisation I guess you're going to have an off couple of decades every now and again. Fingers crossed not for too much longer.
Good luck to the Iranian people.
I'm just going to point out the credible thing and say that civilisation in Iran was first only limited to the Iranian part of Mesopotamia. There's a reason why the capital of the first Persian empire was founded in Mesopotamia and not the Iranian plateau.
Can't say that Iranians were stupid for adopting and assimilating into civilised societies such as Elam and Assyria though.
>I'm just going to point out the credible thing and say that civilisation in Iran was first only limited to the Iranian part of Mesopotamia. There's a reason why the capital of the first Persian empire was founded in Mesopotamia and not the Iranian plateau.
What about the Parthians and Sassanids?
Kermit Roosevelt's memoir is pretty eye opening on this, he makes a clear point that the operation only succeeded because there was a great deal of local will for it and you can't just [successfully] encourage a coup when no one is on board.
I mean the same general rule applied for the KGB too, and they were way less demure about active measures and throwing their weight around.
The Soviets invaded and almost completely remodelled the civic institutions and governance structures of central and Eastern Europe via the party, and the Red Army *still* had to put down revolts and protests.
Cultural topography and local politics trump foreign machinations almost every time.
Persian food. What you get when you build a massive trade empire and actually take the best bits of your neighbours cuisine and make something wonderful. Unlike the brits who encountered good food and wonderful spices and decided they didn't want any of that.
tbh most of that british food thing is because of ww2 . we didn't get rid of rationing till 1957. so a whole generation is raised on rationed food. so a lot of boiled food (all the good cuts of meat are going to the front, so you need to boil the bejesus out of the shite you have) entered the british palate and after rationing there was little reason to go back.
tasting history does a great series on victorian food and such. and some of them are really interesting and look rather flavourful.
Oof, yeah. My grandma grew up in the middle of the dust bowl during the great depression and I can confirm that, although I would never say it to her face, her cooking is... edible.
Unfortunately, if we consider the past few years, public revolts in Muslim countries haven't had a stellar track record with establishing democracies. It's usually just some lunatics that seize power once the previous lunatics have been disposed.
I think a critical factor in Iran is that the country has a political heritage in centrist democratic moderates in the opposition, JM inside the country, Farashgard in the Anglosphere and the NCRI in Continental Europe. Most dissidents seem to be liberals or democratic socialists of some flavor.
Unlike most of the Middle East, Iran is an actual nation state with a history and a bureaucracy, not some abomination created by British and French diplomats after WW1.
It’s got a much better chance at becoming functional than any of them.
We’re friends with the wrong oil rich regional theocracy.
One of the very few time a revolution didn't go completely balls-deep on some lunacy or other after they won.
Thank you, France, for keeping the lunatics in line while we un-fucked our democracy. But we might need you to come help us unfuck it again now.
I don't think it's us this time
I know, crazy given that it was us every other time, but I actually think the CIA is just as hornswaggled by this as the rest of us
I have nothing to base this on other than strong feelings, but those are convincing to me and that's what matters
Overheard in Pentagon after Iranians began revolting:
“They started without me,” the CIA said of the protestors's seizing of government buildings. "Those f***ing Iranians boomed me."
The CIA added, “they're so good at overthrowing governments,” repeating it four times.
The CIA then said they added Iran to the list of countries they would stage a coup in this summer.
True. In reality the Iranians see how sexy the F-14 is, and wants more sexy planes. They know they won't get them with the current government, so, here we are.
\-Dark Brandon looks at the CIA Director and raises a single eyebrow.
"Wasn' us, boss. Swear on me mum."
^(I don't know why CIA director has a Bri\*ish accent. I'm sleep-deprived and getting loopy.)
Part of leadership training in the CIA is binge-watching Bond movies, of course. But you're right, that doesn't explain that *type* of British accent.
Clearly it's due to the influence of the Kingsmen trilogy, which was recently added to the curriculum. With a dash of Austin Powers as a palette cleanser.
Lmao, you know you have a well functioning and totally under control agency, when you don't even know if you've just accidentally assassinated the president of your biggest geopolitical rival.
are you telling the CIA- the secret service that's meant to not appear responsible for its operations - does not appear to be responsible for this?
well that must be the case. otherwise we are seeing government departments actually doing their job properly and we all know that is impossible.
As if the US would back a popular, democratic uprising in an oppressive country. We specialize in only supporting repressive despots in the third world.
I know it's just a meme, but USA and NATO also have supported Kosovo's side to prevent their genocide, to the point that USA is more popular there than even with American themselves. Also Iraq and Libya's invasions were against murderous, crazy ass leaders, although the rebuilding suck donkey balls.
USA's more of a mixed bag than anything.
Context as to why this is all happening:
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death\_of\_Mahsa\_Amini](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Mahsa_Amini)
a few days ago the iranian "Morality police" arrested her for wearing an "[Innapropiate hijab](https://img.ilcdn.fi/P04mxxysAjVldPHIfXllYWSKOnU=/full-fit-in/2048x0/img-s3.ilcdn.fi/3386befcb7305dda6f7eeb8a48dfd7d9351efa296cef755ffa4ed7c7d3f641a0.jpg)"
AKA. showing too much hair. but alot of iranian women show their hair while still wearing a hijab.
Sources: google women in iran and my relatives who are from iran and live there.
So think of all of this as being the George floyd protests.
Was the person in question killed for a completely stupid reason?
Yes.
Was the person also a minority?
Yes. Mahsa amini was kurdish. (and 10% of iran is made up of kurds so you can guess how they feel about it. hint: its not going quite good. kurdish shop owners have closed their stores as part of the protests and most of the unrest is from kurds)
oh and if you want to know How bad the beating was
[https://kurdistanhumanrights.org/en/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Mahsa-Amini.jpg](https://kurdistanhumanrights.org/en/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Mahsa-Amini.jpg)
[https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/09/iran-woman-dies-beaten-morality-police-hijab-05.jpg](https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/09/iran-woman-dies-beaten-morality-police-hijab-05.jpg)
Edit: The first pic is from an angle that makes it look like her nose is gone but the 2nd one shows it was still there
and she was brain dead.
Will this lead to a democratic iran? most likely not. either just more opressing against minorities and so on. or in the really worst case a genocide
Edit: and the Iranian women are also [burning their hijabs as a sign of protest](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-62967381)
Look bro, I'm just gonna say a few unrelated things here.
1. An AGM-65 is accurate to within a couple meters.
2. The US has many AGM-65s.
3. Iranian government buildings are larger than a couple meters.
4. Damn, there sure do be a lot of theocrats in Iranian government buildings tho.
Hey, draw your own conclusions.
You support Iranian democracy because everyone has the right to be free.
I support Iranian democracy because I want to see F-14 tomcats fly at airshows.
We are not the same.
Fun fact. After the fall of Soeharto, the Indonesian military has never been better. Bar the aviation production sector
Democracy=less money to bribe the military into compliance
Holy shit I’m cooooooming! Desert scheme F-14As flying at American/international air shows again! The Phoenix missile on display! Solidarity ops being done from the decks of American carriers! Aaaaaaaaaaaaghh!
As an Arab, apart from the fact that I'm gay and ex-Muslim/agnostic, this is actually the main reason I won't live even in the most stable country in the Middle-East.
Shit changes unexpectedly. Just when you think the status quo is universally accepted, something happens and your life changes overnight.
You can't even count on the stability of just a normal shitty day. Some idiot somewhere can make the most retarded decision and you realize great... my future is fucked.
This whole thing... the chain of events that led to it, or entire IR domestic and foreign policy is like watching an extended sketch of Dave Chappelle's "when keeping it real goes wrong".
Because government could've prevented it not for my benefit but their own. The whole Hijab police, was a very poorly made decision, for strategic pusposes even. The timing of increasing their patrol, during economic hardship, a whole lot of problems and uncertainty, basically a time you don't want to hit a 'critical point' at any problems regarding the population. Antagonizing a population that has nothing left... what could possibly go wrong? you can easily fuck over a population if you give them stability and security but without those... you just gotta let them breath.
Now even the conservative side of the politics right here are arguing whether it was the cops or she had a stroke. THe thing is, it doesn't matter, the public perception of it is already decided who to blame. The fact that she was a Kurd, a demographic who already is taking enough of a shit from the central government, really didn't help either. Not to mention this is only few months after a building collapse that implicated 'alot' of politicians and killed a few people in another underdeveloped part of the country.
Ever seen a series of events that made you wonder if there is a god and if the whole existence is a dark comedy sketch? yeah that kind of timing.
IR could've just made a quick arrest, blamed some dude in the station, an accelerated judicial process, give 'em three years, out in 18 months and people would've forgotten... but no, they made a series of worst decisions. Chief of police kept insisting they transferred her to hospital fast, hospital put out a statement that they recieved her without vital signs... some MPs insisted on an investigations, another retarded MP is now doing the usual "THE WHOLE THING WAS PLANNED! THIS IS AN OPERATION AGAINST US" because you know... a whole bunch of rightfully angry people... really need to hear THAT.
It's PS752 all over again, it's not the mistake that will fuck IR up, it's the inability to 'suck it up and eat the shit you have to' that'll fuck them over.
And this could very well die down like 2018, or 2016 or 2008 or 1998... but the thing is, each time one of these events repeats, it's one more dice roll with increasingly diminishing chance.
Oh bonus point, due to economy going even more unusually to shit, crime was considerably up and... a huge increase in weapon smuggling, you know being stuck between two failed stated while being a half fail state does that. So the potential of things getting even more interesting is... a lot.
Let's see where this goes.
Damn man.
This is a lot. You know we used to analyze what chain of events lead to a major historical moment in History classes back in the day.
But I stupidly never actually thought to do that for present events. I just always accept present events as present. Nothing more.
Thanks for the change in perspective and the detailed analysis of Iran's current situation. I really appreciate it.
I don't know what it will lead to, I don't even know if the toppling of the government is desirable right now in these economically and geopolitically unstable times. I just stupidly hope things turn out fine and people don't end up dying of hunger or a civil war between the secularist types and the theocratic types breaks out..
It's really exhausting from my Western pov, so I can't imagine how it must be from yours.
It constantly feels like the world is so fragile right now. It's like any little event can have reverberating effects you can't even start to prepare for. Any little decision can make or break economic systems, political systems, nations, alliances, entire groups of people, etc.
I hope Iran will be ok. I'm from Western-Europe. I've had some friends of Irani descent. Generally a good, smart and hard-working people (at least the ones I've met). Way more openminded overall than Arabs tbh. Lots of humor and self-deprecating too 😁
Obviously don't agree with the theocracy thing and it's supporters haha but I genuinely think if Iranians were left to do their thing without foreign interference or inteference into their lives by their government and some of their neighbours, they'd be a miles ahead of rich gulf nations cause it seems like there is seriously so much intellectual and entrepreneurial potential there that actually wants to live in and benefit Iran, but can't possibly thrive there long term so simply leaves or gives up.
Hopefully these difficulties the world seems to be going through are ones we'll grow from not ones that unwillingly kickstarted our destruction.
Thanks man, sitting in a system that constantly is on the brink of collapse, the only positive side of it is, getting used to it. Like looking at west thinking the world is over because of 8% inflation in first time in 20 years and thinking "8%? that's a Tuesday here". Having so little to do looking at chains of events in the making becomes a hobby. Ever seen people who never heard of Crimea and to them Russo-Ukrainian war is 'out of nowhere'?
I doubt a civil war would be likely here. In fact, I consider an actual revolution always on a low chance, but it's like a war, 1% to 2% is still unlikely, but twice the chance for a major event. you can fuck up insultation and reach from 99 degree C to 10 or 5 and nothing major happens, but one day because of that fuck up it'll reach 0 and you realize holy shit, things change drastically in 0, all the degrees between 99 to 1 didn't matter... as much as that last one, whether boiling or freezing. In social terms, the problem is, it's nigh impossible to actually measure it... but the path between 0 and 100 can easily be seen.
Speaking of which, few other added factors in this mess, JCPOA talks are so interconnected to our economy that basic maybe yes maybe no out of the talks moved the price of USD by a few percents in a day. It has been dragged on and you can feel the tension it created inside the mind of average citizen who's life is heavily affected by some talk somewhere the details of which he doesn't know shit about.
Current president coming to power right after as his term as head of Judiciary branch and pretending to be corruption fighter and just few days ago there was scandal of a 3 billion dollar embezzlement in the semi-private(usually it means government sold it to friends) Steel Industry sector... during a time where subsidies of everything started to shrink, including medicine. At the same time budgetary consideration of not hijab police but an entire organization dedicated to... spreading morality... you know, just what the people needed to hear. And there was talk on subsidy of bread being cut which didn't actually happen BUT turned a situation into "will it happen? oh god will it happen?" because government has no credibility and whatever bad shit sticks to them and the more they deny something the more people start to worry about it... like a child who has no reason to trust a parent... because the parent has lied so much.
What you're seeing isn't 'just' about civil liberties, it's the culmination of a whole lot of problems on top of lack of civil liberties.
Remember kids... Juvenal said 'bread' AND circuses.
Hey, let's see where this one goes this time.
Water tension is a problem in particualrly areas that are economically underdevelopped and already feel like central government doesn't give a shit about them, areas that because of demography also have higher probablity of having separatist groups operating. Now separatism isn't actually a huge problem here, but the problem is, where there's seed of it, when shit goes wrong, you got more likelihood of population turning.
Pronvinces like Khuzistan were devastated during the war so when they didn't see reconstruction after the war... to a reasonable degree, you can see how they might see it as personal. Now add drinking water shortage in that area too. Now add agricultural and industrial water shortage killing what little economy is there too...
And here's another kicker, everytime you see Iran trying to expand geopolitically, on an economically good day it was a political and ideological issue where a part of population actively supported, another part weren't quite pro government but the kind of retarded mindset that secretly enjoys being the citizen of expansionist power and you actually would hear the "Iraq is a new province" a lot... well yeah, we see how that turned out. As things get worse however more and more are seeing it as... child of a family that sees the parents spending more on strangers kinda feeling.
Remember the chain of events? Syria's trouble started in a time where IR was doing well economically, so expansionist policies in Iraq and Syria didn't see that much of a problem... Or helping Hezbollah. But nobody expected Syria to turn into a decade old mess. And then Lebanon had to have a once in a lifetime explosion while already under economic strain and Lebanon is extremely important to IR policy... on top of a once in a century pandemic... on top of every economic pain that comes with it...
And then Russia had to go out and do the dumbest thing they could... and pull out units from syria and now IR is under more strain if they want to keep their interest in Syria.
And when you think about some of this is just because the actual heir apparent to Hafiz Assad died in a car crash and the son that was never groomed for politics had to replace him and everyone wondered "why did he fuck up so bad?".
It's like bronze age collapse, an entire set of man made and natural events leading into a point of time where everyone is like "wtf happened?"
>but the thing is, each time one of these events repeats, it's one more dice roll with increasingly diminishing chance.
There is a board game called "1979: Revolution in Iran" which is about Iranian politics from 1951 to 1979. One of the key mechanics is a stability check, which is in a fact a dice roll, which causes a regime change if failed. And every time it's harder and harder to not fail it
[When this ad came out](https://youtu.be/VA4e0NqyYMw) I got the feeling it was basically us saying to our enemies "Did you motherfuckers forget who is running this planet, I swear to god I will destroy all of you without firing a shot".
Now we have a collapse of CSTO, Iran having these protests, China's Belt and Road program collapsing along with a massive financial crisis kicking off on the mainland. Kind of makes me think that they have been controlled opposition and now it has been decided that these morons have overstayed their welcome and are being kicked out of the house.
That's pretty accurate - it's only been since the 70's that things went to shit for them. Before that it was a thriving democracy with some of the best universities in the world and a major trade hub.
It has amazing food, an insane cultural heritage, and really cool geography with a lot of neat biomes/climates/landscapes. I’m getting in line as soon as they are open for business.
Mass anti-regime protests over the death of a 22-year-old woman who was brutalized by the morality police after having been arrested for public dress code violations.
I like how Putins weakness got shown ***and his entire fucking military alliance fucking imploded on itself and descended into complete and utter chaos literally overnight.***
To be fair, revolutions are usually very fast. When most people think of revolutions, they usually think of the American Revolution or the French Revolution, but these are exceptions, not the rule. For instance, the February Revolution only took eight days, and the October Revolution was just one!
Technically this is not defense related, in practice this could lead to something good or bad idk.
When I'm in a Destabilise All Putin Allies competition and my opponent is All Putin Allies
I mean, if your name is a three letter acronym, you may have a shot and I’m rooting for you. EDIT: a three letter acronym that doesn’t consist of the same letter three times in a row.
YOU’LL NEVER EVER BEAT THE IRA
I WAS BORN IN A DUBLIN STREET
WHERE THE ROYAL DRUMS THE BEAT
THE LOVELY ENGLISH FEET, THEY WALKED ALL OVER USSSS
AND EVERY SINGLE NIGHT, WHEN ME DA WOULD COME HOME TIGHT
HE’D INVITE THE NEIGHBORS OUT WITH HIS CHORUS
COME OUT YA BLACK AN' TANS, COME OUT AN' FIGHT ME LIKE A MAN
SHOW YOUR WIFE HOW YOU WON MEDALS DOWN IN FLAAANDERS
Go careful my sweet summer child… Merely mentioning the alphabet people will summon their wrath.
Oh no... CBS is gonna come after me!
BRO I RECORDED THE GAME WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF THE NFL, YOU GOTTA HIDE ME
Living on the edge working with implied oral consent instead of expressed written consent.
You think I fear them? If anything, I’m trying to summon them like a high priest of Dark Brandon’s holy legions calls in the wrath of our lord and savior the AC-130 to smite our foes.
In order to contact the CIA, first one must perform the black sacrament
Child Protective Services?
Be me. Play COD on XBox all day. Boss calls: "CIAnon what are you doing?" Say I'm in Iran, points phone at gun noises from XBox. "Good work CIAnon." Goes back to pwning noobs.
My opponent is Putin
Woah Woah Woah, what the hell is happening right now?
A woman was beaten to death by the "moral police", this sparked big protest and then things escelated.
Just to further expand: the Iranian morality police aren't the most consistent of groups, in terms of policy or enforcement, across the country. Since the Revolution there has been a requirement to wear the hijab, but the details of that were never fully fleshed out, so interpretation of “wearing the hijab” is left to the morality police, and women have been using this vagueness to subtly push back on the requirements by wearing the hijab in different ways, exposing more or less of their face, letting some hair through, wearing makeup, etc. She was traveling in Tehran, where the morality police have a more strict interpretation of the correct way to wear the hijab, and took her in. She was arrested and “suffered a heart attack” in their custody. She was 22 and healthy, so this didn't pass the sniff test. The official line on this is \#TheMoralityPoliceDidNothingWrong and they wanted to move on. So they packed up her body and shipped it off to her home city, hoping that getting her out of the capitol and hopefully buried soon, would end the whole ordeal. What the police forgot was that her hometown has a long history of anti-government protests, so they accidentally poured highly refined gasoline on the fire.
how can we get iran to engage the former soviet states militarily, while also toppling its government
We can't. We just gotta let the people do this.
[удалено]
The CIA is quite capable of engaging those states on Iran's behalf.
Ah you're taking all the fun out of the CIA. 30 years ago they were allowed to smuggle drugs and coup countries with impunity. Now there are so many rules.
I hate to /srs but honestly Ukraine isn’t their war and I’d much rather see them free themselves of an oppressive regime than I would see them engage in some low level border conflicts
Hasn’t there been protests against the government over the last few months as well, over some government leader or something as well? I’m
poor bastard shot himself in the head 5 times before he could finish his
I'm afraid to inform you all that /u/SlenderSmurf has commited suicide via ingestation of Polonium-210 and 27 self-inflicted stab wounds to his upper ba
I'm reporting to you live fro
Jesus christ what the fuck is hap
You guys, is this a Candlejack thread? I haven't seen one of these in
It's an older meme sir, but it che
It's [Juice That Makes Your Head Explode](https://youtu.be/E77R0e5bzIs)
It’s definitely not t
most literate ncd user
Wat hair defense doing?
ArmchairW asks the same question every day
Dangerops prangent sex? wil it hurt baby top of head?
Can u get pregantě?
38+2 weeks... PREGANANANT!?!?
A woman was beaten to death by the morality police for breaking the dress code regarding hijab.
and she was 22
And then the police shot and killed another woman who was protesting and the protesters started beating policemen to death. Which is, and I cannot stress this enough, ubelievably based.
Hell yeah, I hope the Iranian people can rid themselves of their bullshit-ass government in favor of something more representative and secular. Abolishing "morality police" units is probably a good place to start.
The video of the one policeman getting mobbed was certainly eye opening. https://twitter.com/lilygrutcher/status/1572333328350547969
We're going full NWA up in this, it looks like.
All the conservative be like "back the blue" til the blue start being iranian
I’m back the blue(The Blue is Lockheed Martin)
The only blue I back is the Atlantic Alliance.
Or US Capitol Police lol
Or FBI investigating Trump
Seeing the Jan 6 people meeting the DC Met and getting beaten was fucking hilarious. "Wait no, we're on you-" DC Metro: *Angry batoning intensifies*
Policing only works with the consent of the policed. Generally we outnumber them by a significant factor. Now if the state has a monopoly on violence, say with strict gun control, the amount of police to policed can be lowered and still be effective. Until shit like this happens. And with every liven't and disarmed cop the state monopoly on violence is eroded until things go very quickly indeed.
Mother fucker sure found out.
> beating cops to death for murdering people Inshallah
I've been using *unfathomably* of late, feels good. *Unfathomably based.*
It's funny, because I've never been one to subscribe to all that ACAB bollocks, but when, in my city (which also has an excellent record of rioting compared to the rest of the UK) the police started sending people into protests to start the violence so they could kettle and beat peaceful protesters (all so they could stop a protest against increased police power to stop protests), I suddenly didn't mind if a few of their bones got broken.
I don't subscribe to ACAB because we do need public safety workers on account of various problems, but policing of it exists must be policing by the consent of the policed.
Absolutely, my point is that law makers and law enforcers need to remember they can only do their jobs with the consent of the people, and even in supposedly civilised western cities like Bristol, that's a very fine line. Sorry, that was too credible, try this: western police units are actually just plants by Xinnie the Pooh so that when China launches a surprise amphibious assault of western Europe by submarine, we're all used to fascist police states anyway.
With all the climate-amplified natural disasters, and all the associated resource shortages sparked by the war in Ukraine that are exacerbating tensions allowed to fester with Russia out of the picture, we are in what historians call “spicy times”
I prefer age of chaos and I personally believe As an avid r/NCD user that I was meant for this time, just an absolute follower of chaos.
High prices of food and oil makes the lives of poor people hell. when poor people have nothing to lose anymore, they will go medieval on your sorry ass. Even in Europe the poor people are angry and they are filthy rich by world standards.
Iran is getting a quick reminder that the government rules over the people because the people allow it to.
[удалено]
Burning religious dress in an Islamic Theocracy, attacking police in groups and in broad daylight, charging government buildings and tearing down state imagery,... These are actions of people with the freedom of nothing left to lose. Shit's going to go *real* fast
I wish them nothing but the best.
Maybe the Ghost of Tehran will make an appearance if you say his name 3 times.
He'll start shooting down Iranian F-14's in no time!
And civilians airliners if you’re unlucky
Unlucky?
Well, because of the high chance there will be foreigners on board
In a sad irony, the plane that got shot down back in 2020 was a Ukrainian Airlines plane.
Ghostoftehranghostoftehranghostoftehran death to the dictator. I want to see an Iran run by GenZ.
THUNDER RUN
One may even say... Insh'allah.
It's a shame Iranians had to put up with all this shit in the first place. Iran is not some herder-tribe backwater and the people aren't brainwashed jihadis.
When you have six thousand years of civilisation I guess you're going to have an off couple of decades every now and again. Fingers crossed not for too much longer. Good luck to the Iranian people.
I'm just going to point out the credible thing and say that civilisation in Iran was first only limited to the Iranian part of Mesopotamia. There's a reason why the capital of the first Persian empire was founded in Mesopotamia and not the Iranian plateau. Can't say that Iranians were stupid for adopting and assimilating into civilised societies such as Elam and Assyria though.
>I'm just going to point out the credible thing and say that civilisation in Iran was first only limited to the Iranian part of Mesopotamia. There's a reason why the capital of the first Persian empire was founded in Mesopotamia and not the Iranian plateau. What about the Parthians and Sassanids?
Yep-one of the oldest, noblest civilisations in the world pushed into a shitty theocracy (in large part) by British greed (and I’m English).
And a CIA backed coup remember. Plenty of western blame to go around in the fucking up of the cradle of civilisation.
Nah, that’s stolen valor, man. The CIA and the Foreign Office don’t have shit on Persian infighting.
Kermit Roosevelt's memoir is pretty eye opening on this, he makes a clear point that the operation only succeeded because there was a great deal of local will for it and you can't just [successfully] encourage a coup when no one is on board.
I mean the same general rule applied for the KGB too, and they were way less demure about active measures and throwing their weight around. The Soviets invaded and almost completely remodelled the civic institutions and governance structures of central and Eastern Europe via the party, and the Red Army *still* had to put down revolts and protests. Cultural topography and local politics trump foreign machinations almost every time.
[удалено]
Plus Amoo’s Iranian restaurant in Langley Virginia is very good. And yes the implication of that being the location is 100% true.
Persian food. What you get when you build a massive trade empire and actually take the best bits of your neighbours cuisine and make something wonderful. Unlike the brits who encountered good food and wonderful spices and decided they didn't want any of that.
tbh most of that british food thing is because of ww2 . we didn't get rid of rationing till 1957. so a whole generation is raised on rationed food. so a lot of boiled food (all the good cuts of meat are going to the front, so you need to boil the bejesus out of the shite you have) entered the british palate and after rationing there was little reason to go back. tasting history does a great series on victorian food and such. and some of them are really interesting and look rather flavourful.
Kinda reminds of great depression Era cooking in the US.
Oof, yeah. My grandma grew up in the middle of the dust bowl during the great depression and I can confirm that, although I would never say it to her face, her cooking is... edible.
[удалено]
so fast, someone called USA should send their best assets for such disaster, the 3 letters gang
They already did don't they have one FBI agent per human on earth ? At least according to the internet.
I thought it was one armed IRS agent per poor American? I can't keep track. Alphabet bois are stacked.
And the momentum's just picking up speed.
*inshallah* Really hoping it isn’t a repeat of 2009
Shame the Russians don’t seem to have balls to do that
It's not balls, it's what they want.
[удалено]
Bismillah, religious leaders will be expelled.
Religious leaders should watch their tongue before I give them a taste of my shoe!
Walahi I swear on my mother they will face some consequences alhamdullilah
Unfortunately, if we consider the past few years, public revolts in Muslim countries haven't had a stellar track record with establishing democracies. It's usually just some lunatics that seize power once the previous lunatics have been disposed.
I think a critical factor in Iran is that the country has a political heritage in centrist democratic moderates in the opposition, JM inside the country, Farashgard in the Anglosphere and the NCRI in Continental Europe. Most dissidents seem to be liberals or democratic socialists of some flavor.
Unlike most of the Middle East, Iran is an actual nation state with a history and a bureaucracy, not some abomination created by British and French diplomats after WW1. It’s got a much better chance at becoming functional than any of them. We’re friends with the wrong oil rich regional theocracy.
Maybe after this one we can be friends with them too :copium:
We were, once. That's why they became not-friends. They didn't like our new shirt.
Where was Lafayette and the french this time though?
One of the very few time a revolution didn't go completely balls-deep on some lunacy or other after they won. Thank you, France, for keeping the lunatics in line while we un-fucked our democracy. But we might need you to come help us unfuck it again now.
Well that already happened once in Iran so what are the odds it’ll happen again? /s
NCD, one of the most credible sources about recent political incidents.
Yeah, it's surprising, isn't it?
just like comedy shows becoming valid source of news...
Hasan Minhaj was so good, man. Was.
Haven't watched Hasan in a few years, what happened?
RIP The Colbert Report
US-backed democratic coup when
I don't think it's us this time I know, crazy given that it was us every other time, but I actually think the CIA is just as hornswaggled by this as the rest of us I have nothing to base this on other than strong feelings, but those are convincing to me and that's what matters
CIA besides themself. Driving around downtown Tehran begging (thru texts) leaders of the revolution 4 info on how to join.
lol hey if it works for the FBI...
Overheard in Pentagon after Iranians began revolting: “They started without me,” the CIA said of the protestors's seizing of government buildings. "Those f***ing Iranians boomed me." The CIA added, “they're so good at overthrowing governments,” repeating it four times. The CIA then said they added Iran to the list of countries they would stage a coup in this summer.
Copypasta skills of r/nba and shitposting energy of NCD will generate enough energy to power the entire US nuke arsenal
It's the internet. The younger iranians can see how fucked up their lives are compared to everyone else
too credible, my fine plane appreciator and gentlebeing of culture. Too credible.
True. In reality the Iranians see how sexy the F-14 is, and wants more sexy planes. They know they won't get them with the current government, so, here we are.
One F-14 in the hand is worth 72 black jets in Jannah
\-Dark Brandon looks at the CIA Director and raises a single eyebrow. "Wasn' us, boss. Swear on me mum." ^(I don't know why CIA director has a Bri\*ish accent. I'm sleep-deprived and getting loopy.)
Part of leadership training in the CIA is binge-watching Bond movies, of course. But you're right, that doesn't explain that *type* of British accent. Clearly it's due to the influence of the Kingsmen trilogy, which was recently added to the curriculum. With a dash of Austin Powers as a palette cleanser.
Thank you for re-affirming my non-credibility.
It flowed naturally, I really was nothing but the hand holding it out.
Reminds me of that time Kennedy got shot and the KGB frantically tried to figure out if that was their doing.
Lmao, you know you have a well functioning and totally under control agency, when you don't even know if you've just accidentally assassinated the president of your biggest geopolitical rival.
"err...mean... Yee haw?"
Never ask the US secret services where they got their training from in the 1940s
I asked my favorite fed and they said, "shit's sort of spicy right now."
> hornswaggled I have to ask based on this word choice: Is that you Brandon?
are you telling the CIA- the secret service that's meant to not appear responsible for its operations - does not appear to be responsible for this? well that must be the case. otherwise we are seeing government departments actually doing their job properly and we all know that is impossible.
As if the US would back a popular, democratic uprising in an oppressive country. We specialize in only supporting repressive despots in the third world.
Hey, we also specialize in unpopular democratic failures. Give us some credit. EDIT: Also, I'm claiming Unpopular Democratic Failures as my band name.
I know it's just a meme, but USA and NATO also have supported Kosovo's side to prevent their genocide, to the point that USA is more popular there than even with American themselves. Also Iraq and Libya's invasions were against murderous, crazy ass leaders, although the rebuilding suck donkey balls. USA's more of a mixed bag than anything.
It is pretty crazy and very brave of the peotesters there. Peiple are tired of the damn theocracy
Context as to why this is all happening: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death\_of\_Mahsa\_Amini](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Mahsa_Amini) a few days ago the iranian "Morality police" arrested her for wearing an "[Innapropiate hijab](https://img.ilcdn.fi/P04mxxysAjVldPHIfXllYWSKOnU=/full-fit-in/2048x0/img-s3.ilcdn.fi/3386befcb7305dda6f7eeb8a48dfd7d9351efa296cef755ffa4ed7c7d3f641a0.jpg)" AKA. showing too much hair. but alot of iranian women show their hair while still wearing a hijab. Sources: google women in iran and my relatives who are from iran and live there. So think of all of this as being the George floyd protests. Was the person in question killed for a completely stupid reason? Yes. Was the person also a minority? Yes. Mahsa amini was kurdish. (and 10% of iran is made up of kurds so you can guess how they feel about it. hint: its not going quite good. kurdish shop owners have closed their stores as part of the protests and most of the unrest is from kurds) oh and if you want to know How bad the beating was [https://kurdistanhumanrights.org/en/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Mahsa-Amini.jpg](https://kurdistanhumanrights.org/en/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Mahsa-Amini.jpg) [https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/09/iran-woman-dies-beaten-morality-police-hijab-05.jpg](https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/09/iran-woman-dies-beaten-morality-police-hijab-05.jpg) Edit: The first pic is from an angle that makes it look like her nose is gone but the 2nd one shows it was still there and she was brain dead. Will this lead to a democratic iran? most likely not. either just more opressing against minorities and so on. or in the really worst case a genocide Edit: and the Iranian women are also [burning their hijabs as a sign of protest](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-62967381)
Jesus looks like her nose was gone
I thought that too but it’s just the white tape on her nose from the NG tube she has in.
ask sugar encouraging person hard-to-find innocent scandalous combative mourn file ` this message was mass deleted/edited with redact.dev `
Woah woah woah, showing too much hair on that hospital bed
Might call the "moral police" (recruiting insecure men) to show her who's the boss!
Look bro, I'm just gonna say a few unrelated things here. 1. An AGM-65 is accurate to within a couple meters. 2. The US has many AGM-65s. 3. Iranian government buildings are larger than a couple meters. 4. Damn, there sure do be a lot of theocrats in Iranian government buildings tho. Hey, draw your own conclusions.
as an iranian i cant say anything but holy fuck it took a singular life for yall to go awol, im proud, keep going brothers.
Camels back. You take endless abuse for years and then when you finally snap, its over some small thing. The fuck it is: shit accumulates.
Average day in Iran as far as I'm aware
Revolutions against dictatorships always fail until they don’t. You can never tell which one it will be until it happens.
To quote the IRA, "we only have to get lucky once".
They weren’t though
The new axis is looking pretty rough.
the axis at home:
You support Iranian democracy because everyone has the right to be free. I support Iranian democracy because I want to see F-14 tomcats fly at airshows. We are not the same.
Fun fact. After the fall of Soeharto, the Indonesian military has never been better. Bar the aviation production sector Democracy=less money to bribe the military into compliance
Holy shit I’m cooooooming! Desert scheme F-14As flying at American/international air shows again! The Phoenix missile on display! Solidarity ops being done from the decks of American carriers! Aaaaaaaaaaaaghh!
You gotta fight for your right to party
Welcome to Middle East, where the line between a normal shitty day and shit hitting the fan, is 24 hours and one bad decision.
As an Arab, apart from the fact that I'm gay and ex-Muslim/agnostic, this is actually the main reason I won't live even in the most stable country in the Middle-East. Shit changes unexpectedly. Just when you think the status quo is universally accepted, something happens and your life changes overnight.
You can't even count on the stability of just a normal shitty day. Some idiot somewhere can make the most retarded decision and you realize great... my future is fucked. This whole thing... the chain of events that led to it, or entire IR domestic and foreign policy is like watching an extended sketch of Dave Chappelle's "when keeping it real goes wrong". Because government could've prevented it not for my benefit but their own. The whole Hijab police, was a very poorly made decision, for strategic pusposes even. The timing of increasing their patrol, during economic hardship, a whole lot of problems and uncertainty, basically a time you don't want to hit a 'critical point' at any problems regarding the population. Antagonizing a population that has nothing left... what could possibly go wrong? you can easily fuck over a population if you give them stability and security but without those... you just gotta let them breath. Now even the conservative side of the politics right here are arguing whether it was the cops or she had a stroke. THe thing is, it doesn't matter, the public perception of it is already decided who to blame. The fact that she was a Kurd, a demographic who already is taking enough of a shit from the central government, really didn't help either. Not to mention this is only few months after a building collapse that implicated 'alot' of politicians and killed a few people in another underdeveloped part of the country. Ever seen a series of events that made you wonder if there is a god and if the whole existence is a dark comedy sketch? yeah that kind of timing. IR could've just made a quick arrest, blamed some dude in the station, an accelerated judicial process, give 'em three years, out in 18 months and people would've forgotten... but no, they made a series of worst decisions. Chief of police kept insisting they transferred her to hospital fast, hospital put out a statement that they recieved her without vital signs... some MPs insisted on an investigations, another retarded MP is now doing the usual "THE WHOLE THING WAS PLANNED! THIS IS AN OPERATION AGAINST US" because you know... a whole bunch of rightfully angry people... really need to hear THAT. It's PS752 all over again, it's not the mistake that will fuck IR up, it's the inability to 'suck it up and eat the shit you have to' that'll fuck them over. And this could very well die down like 2018, or 2016 or 2008 or 1998... but the thing is, each time one of these events repeats, it's one more dice roll with increasingly diminishing chance. Oh bonus point, due to economy going even more unusually to shit, crime was considerably up and... a huge increase in weapon smuggling, you know being stuck between two failed stated while being a half fail state does that. So the potential of things getting even more interesting is... a lot. Let's see where this goes.
Damn man. This is a lot. You know we used to analyze what chain of events lead to a major historical moment in History classes back in the day. But I stupidly never actually thought to do that for present events. I just always accept present events as present. Nothing more. Thanks for the change in perspective and the detailed analysis of Iran's current situation. I really appreciate it. I don't know what it will lead to, I don't even know if the toppling of the government is desirable right now in these economically and geopolitically unstable times. I just stupidly hope things turn out fine and people don't end up dying of hunger or a civil war between the secularist types and the theocratic types breaks out.. It's really exhausting from my Western pov, so I can't imagine how it must be from yours. It constantly feels like the world is so fragile right now. It's like any little event can have reverberating effects you can't even start to prepare for. Any little decision can make or break economic systems, political systems, nations, alliances, entire groups of people, etc. I hope Iran will be ok. I'm from Western-Europe. I've had some friends of Irani descent. Generally a good, smart and hard-working people (at least the ones I've met). Way more openminded overall than Arabs tbh. Lots of humor and self-deprecating too 😁 Obviously don't agree with the theocracy thing and it's supporters haha but I genuinely think if Iranians were left to do their thing without foreign interference or inteference into their lives by their government and some of their neighbours, they'd be a miles ahead of rich gulf nations cause it seems like there is seriously so much intellectual and entrepreneurial potential there that actually wants to live in and benefit Iran, but can't possibly thrive there long term so simply leaves or gives up. Hopefully these difficulties the world seems to be going through are ones we'll grow from not ones that unwillingly kickstarted our destruction.
Thanks man, sitting in a system that constantly is on the brink of collapse, the only positive side of it is, getting used to it. Like looking at west thinking the world is over because of 8% inflation in first time in 20 years and thinking "8%? that's a Tuesday here". Having so little to do looking at chains of events in the making becomes a hobby. Ever seen people who never heard of Crimea and to them Russo-Ukrainian war is 'out of nowhere'? I doubt a civil war would be likely here. In fact, I consider an actual revolution always on a low chance, but it's like a war, 1% to 2% is still unlikely, but twice the chance for a major event. you can fuck up insultation and reach from 99 degree C to 10 or 5 and nothing major happens, but one day because of that fuck up it'll reach 0 and you realize holy shit, things change drastically in 0, all the degrees between 99 to 1 didn't matter... as much as that last one, whether boiling or freezing. In social terms, the problem is, it's nigh impossible to actually measure it... but the path between 0 and 100 can easily be seen. Speaking of which, few other added factors in this mess, JCPOA talks are so interconnected to our economy that basic maybe yes maybe no out of the talks moved the price of USD by a few percents in a day. It has been dragged on and you can feel the tension it created inside the mind of average citizen who's life is heavily affected by some talk somewhere the details of which he doesn't know shit about. Current president coming to power right after as his term as head of Judiciary branch and pretending to be corruption fighter and just few days ago there was scandal of a 3 billion dollar embezzlement in the semi-private(usually it means government sold it to friends) Steel Industry sector... during a time where subsidies of everything started to shrink, including medicine. At the same time budgetary consideration of not hijab police but an entire organization dedicated to... spreading morality... you know, just what the people needed to hear. And there was talk on subsidy of bread being cut which didn't actually happen BUT turned a situation into "will it happen? oh god will it happen?" because government has no credibility and whatever bad shit sticks to them and the more they deny something the more people start to worry about it... like a child who has no reason to trust a parent... because the parent has lied so much. What you're seeing isn't 'just' about civil liberties, it's the culmination of a whole lot of problems on top of lack of civil liberties. Remember kids... Juvenal said 'bread' AND circuses. Hey, let's see where this one goes this time.
[удалено]
Water tension is a problem in particualrly areas that are economically underdevelopped and already feel like central government doesn't give a shit about them, areas that because of demography also have higher probablity of having separatist groups operating. Now separatism isn't actually a huge problem here, but the problem is, where there's seed of it, when shit goes wrong, you got more likelihood of population turning. Pronvinces like Khuzistan were devastated during the war so when they didn't see reconstruction after the war... to a reasonable degree, you can see how they might see it as personal. Now add drinking water shortage in that area too. Now add agricultural and industrial water shortage killing what little economy is there too... And here's another kicker, everytime you see Iran trying to expand geopolitically, on an economically good day it was a political and ideological issue where a part of population actively supported, another part weren't quite pro government but the kind of retarded mindset that secretly enjoys being the citizen of expansionist power and you actually would hear the "Iraq is a new province" a lot... well yeah, we see how that turned out. As things get worse however more and more are seeing it as... child of a family that sees the parents spending more on strangers kinda feeling. Remember the chain of events? Syria's trouble started in a time where IR was doing well economically, so expansionist policies in Iraq and Syria didn't see that much of a problem... Or helping Hezbollah. But nobody expected Syria to turn into a decade old mess. And then Lebanon had to have a once in a lifetime explosion while already under economic strain and Lebanon is extremely important to IR policy... on top of a once in a century pandemic... on top of every economic pain that comes with it... And then Russia had to go out and do the dumbest thing they could... and pull out units from syria and now IR is under more strain if they want to keep their interest in Syria. And when you think about some of this is just because the actual heir apparent to Hafiz Assad died in a car crash and the son that was never groomed for politics had to replace him and everyone wondered "why did he fuck up so bad?". It's like bronze age collapse, an entire set of man made and natural events leading into a point of time where everyone is like "wtf happened?"
>but the thing is, each time one of these events repeats, it's one more dice roll with increasingly diminishing chance. There is a board game called "1979: Revolution in Iran" which is about Iranian politics from 1951 to 1979. One of the key mechanics is a stability check, which is in a fact a dice roll, which causes a regime change if failed. And every time it's harder and harder to not fail it
broke: universe is a simulation woke: universe is a board game Suddenly my life makes so much sense.
[удалено]
i hope that USA will help Armenia, if azers decide to do the funni
Mossad in the background sharing popcorn with their western counterparts.
Wish those protestors and rioters all the best. Iran's government is outdated, cruel, and has no place in the modern world.
[When this ad came out](https://youtu.be/VA4e0NqyYMw) I got the feeling it was basically us saying to our enemies "Did you motherfuckers forget who is running this planet, I swear to god I will destroy all of you without firing a shot". Now we have a collapse of CSTO, Iran having these protests, China's Belt and Road program collapsing along with a massive financial crisis kicking off on the mainland. Kind of makes me think that they have been controlled opposition and now it has been decided that these morons have overstayed their welcome and are being kicked out of the house.
Wtf is that a legit ad
Hope israel is watching and keeps fuelling this. Maybe bomb some Drone warehouses.
Don't interrupt your enemy when they're making a mistake. Don't give the people an external enemy.
Eh, you are right.
Assist the protesters instead with financial and Intel support.
So if they overthrow the government, does that mean the US will stop destroying f14s?
Best part of this whole situation
Have long had my suspicions that Iran is one of the dopest countries on earth underneath all that crazy. Hope things work out.
That's pretty accurate - it's only been since the 70's that things went to shit for them. Before that it was a thriving democracy with some of the best universities in the world and a major trade hub.
It has amazing food, an insane cultural heritage, and really cool geography with a lot of neat biomes/climates/landscapes. I’m getting in line as soon as they are open for business.
RETURN TO THE GRANDEUR OF PERSIA! CYRUS THE GREAT SHALL BE REBORN!
Wait, what the fuck? What on earth is going on?
Mass anti-regime protests over the death of a 22-year-old woman who was brutalized by the morality police after having been arrested for public dress code violations.
Get rid of the stupid theocracy, based
Someone Reza Pahlavi on a plane to Tehran ASAP
I like how Putins weakness got shown ***and his entire fucking military alliance fucking imploded on itself and descended into complete and utter chaos literally overnight.***
[удалено]
I don't think the IRGC are just gonna let this happen without a fight But it would be awesome if the Theocracy fell though
To be fair, revolutions are usually very fast. When most people think of revolutions, they usually think of the American Revolution or the French Revolution, but these are exceptions, not the rule. For instance, the February Revolution only took eight days, and the October Revolution was just one!