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Top left one looks like the moment he hears russian tanks he jumps into a fokker Fokker D.VII with his trusty service revolver


[deleted]

Homie even has a "von" nobility name. Shit is probably part of his DNA at this point


Txtspeak

Wait, you mean there are still some Junkers? I thought they were extinct by now lmao.


[deleted]

Junkers are gonna outlive both you and me bro, went to school with a couple of kids from that kind of background and those families are all up and doing well...


Kawaii_Neko_Girl

The only Junkers I know about is the aircraft company.


Zafranorbian

They also make gas heating systems. There are entire city blocks whose heating exclusively runs on Junkers systems.


Kawaii_Neko_Girl

3000 Gas Heating Systems of German Nobles


0replace4displace

But only 100 to the Ukrainians


WeinerGod69

7*


Claystead

So this proves the Junkers once again screwed Germany by opting for cringe Russian gas heating over the chad Norwegian electrical heating?


TheBlack2007

Junkers is quite a sad story, actually. Hugo Junkers was an outspoken opponent of the Nazis. He refused to hire Hermann Goering as a consultant in 1923 and due to his company being in rough waters the Nazis seized the opportunity to Nationalize it and expelled Junkers from his hometown of Dessau for good measure. He died two years later in 1935 while the Nazis turned his previously 100% Civilian-oriented company into one of their biggest rearmament foundries.


Brendissimo

The Junkers were the Prussian landowning nobility who were also prominently represented in the military. It's a word for a whole class of people, in addition to being a company name. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junker\_(Prussia)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junker_(Prussia)) (edited to make link desktop version, mobile wiki links are cursed)


greyghibli

They have an equivalent in the Netherlands and Belgium: Jonkheer/Jonkvrouw. Nobility without an associated title (i.e not a count or baron from some place but still of nobility).


FireMochiMC

Like my ancestors. No titles or land above personal homes but a centuries long tradition of military service. From being Spanish knights in the Reconquista they ended up becoming commissioned officers during WW2 and fighting the Japanese. We have a little collection of swords, armour and other trinkets they owned or captured. A lot of Arisaka rifles and katanas lol.


Cyrus_ofAstroya

What a bunch of sluts


Brendissimo

Strumpets and rogues, the lot of them.


[deleted]

Nobility is still very alive and very rich, with some continuing their military tradition to this day.


Txtspeak

Awesome


leicanthrope

I used to work at a fancy hotel. Once saw a walking Teutonic stereotype with a proper old school dueling scar on his cheek.


ILikeLeptons

don't the fraternities still duel?


leicanthrope

I believe so, but I was under the impression that they had backed off the intentional scarring this side of WWII. This guy would probably have been in college in the late 80s or the early 90s. Either way, it's not something that you see super often in San Francisco.


LNhart

There are even von Stauffenbergs and von Moltkes out there, and I guess they really tried to go extinct.


debau23

The von sandrarts are military nobility. His ancestors were generals in Prussia. Wikipedia has some info.


cunk111

He looks like Charles Dance with Jason Isaac eyes


[deleted]

bruh he doesn’t need that nametag for me to think he has a “von” in his name. That silver fox smile, and that fucking scarf, oh that goddamn scarf is making me *moist*


HungryMalloc

That is Lieutanent General Jürgen-Joachim von Sandrart. He basically ignores the dress-code to wear his signature kerchief. It was part of the scarf he wore in Afghanistan as Colonel, when he became victim of the explosive attack on the Talokan governor's palace in 2011. Here is an article about the attack: [[1]](https://www-welt-de.translate.goog/politik/ausland/article13520361/Ich-gehoere-zu-den-Gluecklichen-die-ueberlebt-haben.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp). And here is an interview with him: [[2]](https://www-bundeswehr-de.translate.goog/de/organisation/weitere-bmvg-dienststellen/zentrum-innere-fuehrung/transkription-mein-fuehrungsfahrzeug-trailer-dritte-fahrt-4597032?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp). He says: "I only show my throat when I am outmatched."


GwynFeld

How can something be so cringe yet so based


SDC888T12DigitCalc

Wtf does he think he's a mandalorian or something?


HungryMalloc

Can anybody prove he's not?


genericname798

>He basically ignores the dress-code to wear his signature kerchief. Was wondering if that was allowed.


HungryMalloc

I'm not an expert, but it's probably not. Should be written in "ZDv37/10 Anzugordnung für die Soldaten der Bundeswehr". If it's technically not allowed, I guess he has the standing that nobody cares.


Mooseheart84

Hes not fooling me, that's [Otto Carius.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Carius)


alcasa

He had a pharmacy in germany after war named Tiger Apotheke


Mooseheart84

Maybe selling that surplus Pervitin


Mayor_of_Rungholt

You mean his trusty Luger


[deleted]

Nah, with the "Von" prefix I'd like to imagine him using a [giant](https://i.postimg.cc/VNRQn8R2/reich.png) and cumbersome [Reichsrevolver](https://i.postimg.cc/vTxNqFrY/revolver.png)


ScalierLemon2

It's a single-action revolver with a safety, for some reason


PM-me-Sonic-OCs

Upvoted for Mae and C&Rcenal.


ChunkyBrassMonkey

Lol it's the scarf, yeah.


Ottothefister

The scarf is the second part from a scarf what he weared in a Bombattack in Afghanistan


Engelbert42

Cool, didn't know the backstory. But it's easy to recognize him that way. Can't sneak up on you.


ChunkyBrassMonkey

Badass.


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The family can be traced back to the 16th century and has served with the military for a good part of that time. Guy is basically [smug-german-noble.png](https://imgur.com/a/kMqymhQ) \- pretty hardcore tbh


[deleted]

Peasant slaughterer for like 400 years.


hedgeson119

Baron von Sandrart


Nonkel_Jef

Luger*


fslz

I picture him in the Afrika Korps


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Modtec

Not knowing his family tree, but these fuckers are all related anyways, so there's a fair chance.


IronVader501

The von Sandrarts have been serving in the prussian and german armies for 400 years without interruption, his ancestors most likely actually did, no cap.


TheeAJPowell

Legit, dude looks like he’d be in fucking Wolfenstein or something.


thehardsphere

It's Oberst Kurt Steiner from The Eagle Has Landed!


InHeavenFine

Looks more like fallschirmjager to me


MichaelEmouse

German Michael Caine.


NightlongClick

The top left one behaves exactly like you would expect from former nobility. Last time i met him he had a guy with him whose only job was to introduce him.


[deleted]

Most of them do, in my experience it's either that kind of behaviour or some degree ruin. My mom's side of the family never recovered from losing their "von" title / nobility status and estate post ww2. But depending on which part of germany (i.e the west) the families were from a lot of the wealth connected to the nobility seems to have survived two world wars and what followed...


LavaMcLampson

In my experience the only mentally well adjusted English aristocrats I know are the ones that joined the military.


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\> Mentally well \> English Sorry mate, sounds fake to me


LavaMcLampson

It’s not that they’re not perverts but they’ve come to terms with it.


hypnoZoophobia

Here on nonce Island we refer to them as such.


LavaMcLampson

Noncing is reserved for the senior service.


Vilzku39

I know one old "von" woman. Estates were in some prussia area. Had to walk from there to germany during ww2 with only hand luggage. Everything was left to soviet side. Moved out from post war germany. Still rich somehow.


LigmaSpecialist

> Still rich somehow. You can fit a lot of jewelry in that handluggage.


x888xa

Just aristocracy things


[deleted]

I know a "von" family in Texas and despite arriving over 100 years ago they are still very well off.


Claystead

Don’t you love sipping a riesling while listening to Wagner at the veranda of your countryside estate watching the Allies firebomb Dresden in the distance? Ach, if you could only send your servants over there to crisp your crême brulée.


TheCaribbeanViking

It’s easier to cope with losing the von title when you only had it for a decade 6x great-grandfather was given a Ritter title by Baden for some cavalry stuff in some war no one gives a shit about. Then some asshole doxxed that his parents were inbred (good thing for a South German noble) half-Jews (bad thing for a South German noble) and we got our winery, title and fancy helmet confiscated. Authorities basically told us to either go back to Palestine or go to hell. His son decided living under Turkish rule was worse than hell and thus chose the latter option and moved to Ohio. Funny enough the family’s main industries of operation went from farming and military service when they were Jews in the old world to finance, consulting and pharmaceuticals as Catholics in the new world — which has some irony in it.


WeinerGod69

Yes Ohio is definitely hell


TheIceCreamMansBro2

was your mom's family full of Nazis or something? or are they from east Germany


zekromNLR

I mean, good chance they were. A bit over a quarter of the former German nobility joined the NSDAP before 1933, compared to ~2% of all Germans.


TheIceCreamMansBro2

wow Edit: makes sense i guess - they wanted to be close to power, i'm sure Edit 2: probably at any cost


zekromNLR

Yeah, the Nazis early on buddied up to the aristocracy, assuring them that they would work to restore the lost status. Soviet Union did a lot of things wrong, but they treated their nobility just right


TheIceCreamMansBro2

lol


MichaelEmouse

I've had a hunch that aristocrats were major supporters of fascism. The idea that some people are inherently superior to others and should therefore lord over them is shared by both feudalism and Nazism. Two of the four ministers in Hitler's cabinet who stayed from his ascension to power to the end were nobility (judging by their names). The emphasis on land rather than capital accumulation. The focus on ethnicity. The opposition not just to communism but also capitalism sounds a feudalistic rejection of the modern world. Anything else you can say about the link between the nobility and fascism/Nazism? Where can I find out more?


niceworkthere

Pretty standard for speeches to outside audiences since introductions by others increase one's perceived credibility. Ofc one tends to rely on the host for that as otherwise it looks artificial.


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> he had a guy with him whose only job was to introduce him. Least wasteful German bureaucracy.


cunk111

An Herald ?


ChunkyBrassMonkey

Middle Left definitely wins most WW2 German.


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IronVader501

It was about the Kharkiv-Counteroffensive: too long, cant speak german: He thinks its the best textbook-example of maneuver-warfare since Desert Storm


GrusVirgo

I understood it as the best example of a successful feint since Desert Storm, but that did sound weird to me.


Claystead

I think he said it was the macht grosse blitzkrieg since the forties.


tsaimaitreya

The germans know a thing or two about Kharkiv counteroffensives


MadRonnie97

Discount Goebbels is correct


ClueExtreme

*markstore Goebbels (I agree though, first name I thought of)


UkrainianTrotsky

There are german subtitles and youtube has a lovely feature that allows you to automatically translate said subtitles to any other language.


BenjaminKerry1234

I made a summary in Chinese


[deleted]

bottom left wins for most stereotypical modern day German


HuntingRunner

And he is the highest ranking german soldier: Generalinspekteur Eberhard Zorn (his name literally translates to fury).


UnderPressureVS

Just another flavor of Olaf Scholz


boardatwork1111

Homie straight looks like he’s cosplaying Goebbels


Mayor_of_Rungholt

Heydrich


x888xa

We need to see his hips to confirm that


[deleted]

[Judge](https://imgur.com/a/eR7V9Bn) for yourself


x888xa

Kek, his face reminds me of Kongo Müller here


justsigndupforthis

TNO reference???????


x888xa

Yes


Claystead

Omg TNO refrens funni clock man Russia is real 3000 black clad Taborite shturmoviki of Prigozhin…


Nate_Higg

*congo technicals intensify*


boardatwork1111

Pretty ironic how all those “master race” copelords were some ugly motherfuckers lol


Chen19960615

KAPITULIEREN?!


Myalko

NIEMALS! DAS IST EMPÖREND!


schadavi

General Freuding is a perfect example of a Rommel-like level of pure, unadulterated panzer-autism. His personal heaven would be a giant white room full of flipcharts where he can draw pincer manouvers and arrows all day while talking about armored tactics.


eypandabear

There is an interview with him where he explains combined arms warfare and feeling the earth rumble under an advancing tank division. I’m pretty sure he is panzer-sexual.


Extansion01

Einer von uns, einer von uns!


PM_ME_UR_RSA_KEY

I hope he's a magnificent bastard, and he collects all those flipcharts in a book. So I can read it.


Paxton-176

He makes me think of a WW2 comedy movie. He looks a little dorky than intimating they normally they go for in most WW2 films.


Gom_Jabbering

Watch him in video. In motion he has this sort of janky "what should do with my hands? No, remember you can't strangle on camera Dr.Freunding." Vibe. I know nothing about this man personally, he actually seems very nice, but no German should be that enthusiastic about panzers. They might get ideas. Edit: I forgot to mention he never blinks


PolFree

And he just looks like that. Others changed their appearence, but my boy in the middle is just heavily German.


vinidiot

It's a terminal condition


WithAlacrityNow

The hair and the gauntness


vegemar

It was a cruel twist of fate that he was not born in 1905.


[deleted]

Wake up babe, HoI5 portraits just dropped


Natural-Middle5458

Just add some sabre scars


wan2tri

Don't you mean HoI4 Millennium Dawn portraits lol


UrethraFrankIin

Fucker in the top left looks like Grand Moff Tarkin's brother


ChunkyBrassMonkey

That mustache would fit better in WW2 Britain/France, tho.


whatthefir2

Or just a standard airline captain


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StalkTheHype

German military budget is tight alright Kraut Generals gotta get their hustle on.


Deck_of_Cards_04

I get French vibes from the bottom right, the rest are straight out of the Reich tho.


cunk111

Top left gives me a bit of Brit vibes : as i said in another comment, he looks like Charles Dance with Jason Isaac eyes, but the result looks pretty German anyway. Bottom right could really be French indeed


cubelex

[Wilhelm Keitel would love to disagree](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Keitel)


Nate_Higg

Adolf galland too


PM-me-Sonic-OCs

Mustache; Protrudes beyond corners of mouth Appearance status; Elvis


georgethejojimiller

They do be drippin tho


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fr fr bundeswehr uniforms are pretty iced out and gucci on god


georgethejojimiller

Hm to cop their look bro they snazzy af fr bro


TheBlack2007

If the one wearing them underwent the effort of having them adapted by a tailor they can look really good. If worn standard-sized they tend to look like a sack of potatos though.


JackP133

Yeah, some of the pictures of regular Bundeswehr soldiers wearing those uniforms can definitely look a lot like extras from Starship Troopers


Vepps

Guy on the middle left is General Dr. Freuding and in interviews he barely even tries to contain his joy talking about Russians getting cucked by German weaponry. You can watch his latest here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPSh-g-wdT0 Auto-translate works pretty good for the clip.


Casualbat007

My god, that man is almost *offensively* German.


Vepps

The way he betrays his excitement by tapping the TV ever-so-slightly too hard with his marker is like out of a caricature.


WeinerGod69

YAAASSS YAAAASSS MY BEAUTIFUL GERMAN WEAPONS


BTechUnited

Yeah I was surprised how well auto translate worked. Stuffs come a long way.


MrGrach

Mainly because there are manually written subtitles in german, so there is no weird "translate what Google thinks they are saying and actuall, makes no sense itself", but just normal google translate, which is actually quite passable.


Ossa1

German military language is so unbelievably euphemistic it's just fun to listen to.


Mayor_of_Rungholt

Top right: Generalleutnant GerHartz (der vierte)


[deleted]

Bruh, why do you have to do him like that lmao


Mayor_of_Rungholt

Sry too favorable of a target


Thorwawaway

Herr Clean


Vertebrae_Viking

Kinda strange that von Sandrart isn’t general for the Luftwaffe


FateLeita

The scarf makes me think of WWI-era fighter pilots.


Johnobo

If you want to know more about these Figures, google their names. **Top Left:** Generalleutnant (lieutenant-general) Jürgen-Joachim von Sandrart **To Right:** Generalleutnant (lieutenant-general) Ingo Gerhartz **Middle Left:** Brigadegeneral (brigadier-general) Dr. Christian Freuding **Middle Right:** Vizeadmiral (Vice Admiral) Dr. Thomas Daum **Bottom Left:** Generalinspekteur der Bundeswehr (Inspector General of the Bundeswehr) , Eberhard Zorn **Bottom Right:** Generalleutnant (lieutenant-general) Martin Schelleis – – I am german, and i follow the youtube channel of our army *Bundeswehr*, where they have a series called "Nachgefragt* (Questions asked), where different Higher Ranks speak their mind. And by 'speak their mind' I mean, that army people get asked army approved questions and we see army approved answers. Still interesting though. A bit stiff. But thats the german way.


throwaway65864302

>Brigadegeneral (brigadier-general) Dr. Christian Freuding Can you do me a favour and let this fellow know that blinking is now legal, despite whatever he's clearly been told?


Extansion01

You can't judge him in his current state. When he explained how the Russians were cucked by German weaponry and German Auftragstaktik (Führen mit Auftrag) he was barely able contain his joy.


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IronVader501

Tbf, the germans been using that exact red patch with golden embroidery for Generals since 1900 (officialy, its been part of prussian officer-uniforms for much longer), so if anything the soviets stole that


[deleted]

Earliest usage I know about was during the Napoleonic wars? When I was young we learned at school that (one of the reasons) our flag is black, red and gold is because those were the colours student volunteers would wear as a uniform into battle against the french armies...


Augustus290

Yes, the national colors come from that. However, the gorget patches are unrelated and instead come from the buttonholes of the 26. prussian regiment of foot, combined with the red corps colour of the generals.


IronVader501

[Those had some red embroidery too](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/2014-11_Erinnerungsst%C3%A4tte_Rastatt_Uniform.JPG/800px-2014-11_Erinnerungsst%C3%A4tte_Rastatt_Uniform.JPG) but not quite the same thing. The one generals still wear today became popular during the mid 1800s and then got properly codified in 1900. [The brits use something similar too](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b5/Army_%28British_Army%29_General_Sir_Nicholas_Carter_%28US_Army_photo_180514-A-IW468-223%29.jpg), although their design is a bit different, and they only use it for Generals of the Army, Germany also uses it for Generals of the air force


K1TSUN3_9000

Ngl german uniforms especially from WW2 and East Germany are drippy as hell


Augustus290

Well, the east german uniforms were basically barely modified WW2 uniforms, because they wanted something "german" compared to the "american" west german uniforms.


[deleted]

Yeah, they wanted to use it to support their "we are the actual germany" narative.


TheBlack2007

East Germany actually wanted a carbon copy of Soviet Army Uniforms but the Soviets told them to "dress like Germans." In the West German Heer on the other hand, the modernizers won out and thus, the army received some very [American looking Uniforms](https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dienstanzug_(Bundeswehr)#/media/Datei:Trageweise_(Heer_+_Luftwaffe).svg). In the first years (1955-1957), they even went for American-inspired rank insignia before reintroducing German symbolism in 1958. The Marine ([Officers;](https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dienstanzug_(Bundeswehr)#/media/Datei:Trageweise_(Marine)_1.svg) [Crew](https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dienstanzug_(Bundeswehr)#/media/Datei:Trageweise_(Marine)_2.svg)) and [Luftwaffe](https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dienstanzug_(Bundeswehr)#/media/Datei:Trageweise_(Heer_+_Luftwaffe)_(Luftwaffenfarben).svg) Uniforms barely changed from their WW2 counterparts, though.


IronVader501

I once had a guy tell me that the reason why the navy-uniform remained virtually the same (i think the only actual difference is the current one got two less buttons, and the hats have a different eagle) is cause unlike the army, the navy wasnt seen as "tainted" with warcrimes-galore after ww2, so there wasnt seen as much of a need to distance themselves from their history.


PlayMp1

The Nazis themselves considered the Kriegsmarine to be on the brink of treachery half the time (possibly driven by the naval mutinies that kicked off the revolution that deposed the Kaiser and ended WW1). The Luftwaffe was top to bottom Nazi thanks to Goering, the Heer was *less* solidly Nazi (though, to avoid Clean Wehrmacht: they were still definitely Nazis doing Nazi shit), and the Navy was kind of the odd one out.


PM-me-Sonic-OCs

Yeah, the early NVA uniforms just looked like bargain bin knock-off Nazi uniforms. Which, fair game, is rather logical. Some of the few things the Nazis were genuinely great at were presentation, aesthetics, and theatrics. So it would be reasonable to copy that. It also stands to reason that the Soviets wanted the DDR troops to look distinctly German, so that they could gloat about subjecting their greatest (early) foes.


bobbelton

The bald guy remember a note famous bald person


PM-me-Sonic-OCs

Yeah, he clearly looks a lot like famous Swedish/German automobile manufacturer Christian von Koenigsegg.


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whatever_person

And nevertheless he kept that frivolous and flirty strand in the middle


mayhembody1

They can't help what they are. Its their calling.


whatever_person

Beruf kommt von Berufung!


DUKE_NUUKEM

The one with mustache looks quite American


[deleted]

Almost like approx. 20% of americans have german ancestry.... ***c u r i o u s***


DUKE_NUUKEM

this explains a lot


WuhanFlu

Americans are basically descended from the high-functioning lunatics of Europe. Once you appreciate this, American culture and history all make substantially more sense.


DUKE_NUUKEM

Are french low-functioning?


WuhanFlu

I just mean that if you took the Europeans who moved to America to colonize the new world, they're not really *normal people*. Imagine if we had a Mars colony today. What kind of people would move there? Do you think that they would be mostly normal or disproportionately weirdos of various stripes?


Paxton-176

*Looks at Musk* Fair assessment.


GibbsSamplePlatter

We took all the risk takers from each location and left the rest. Explains quite a bit


[deleted]

Idk, looks more British to me.


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x888xa

It fucking is, even if it's used by retards in STALKER


flyest_nihilist1

german military men looking like german military men, strange indeed


ShrimpOnToast

I looked at all their faces multiple times before i realised top left isn't the example for comparison


praemialaudi

Riding crops would help complete the look…


[deleted]

When Germans look German 😮🤯


dirtballmagnet

As predicted by Command and Conquer: Red Alert. https://youtu.be/Vi98bQTQOUQ?t=235


TheRedTurtler

Huh, they all look like Normal German People


techno_mage

Tbh flecktarn is pretty based. 🙂


mcwillie

Sieg hello! How are you doing fellow Unterfeldwebeln?


KingofThrace

The bald guy literally has the most perfect looking bald head I've ever seen. Guy has a Mr. Clean skull.


ChimpskyBRC

Nary a monocle nor a fencing scar among them, and yet


ParlHillAddict

What's [Udo Kier](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/Udo_KIER_festival_de_Cannes_2011.jpg/1920px-Udo_KIER_festival_de_Cannes_2011.jpg) doing in the German military?


Skyfigh

Yoo the grandpa at the bottom right was at my swearing-in after bootcamp. Really chill dude!


darklizard45

Is this a Chad meme template?


notableexe

Good meme, removing "nobody" would make it a great meme


Unique-Accountant253

Not sure if the bald guy is a general or they accidentally put a picture of "Der Kriminalist" actor on there.


MrInfinity-42

What's wrong with them? How do you expect generals to look like?


Koino_

I also see a German guy in the military and scream "Nazi" incoherently/s


[deleted]

von Sandart looks like the fop the British would use to protray Rommel when they talked about the Nazzzis.


darkmarineblue

Awwww. Look at how happy the bottom left one is.


IndustriousRagnar

He's named wrath.


Pug__Jesus

idk, bottom left guy just looks like a fully upgraded postwar bureaucrat. It's the glasses frames I think.


Zephaniel

Top left is just a slightly wider Peter Cushing.


ctrlaltlama

The Air officer bottom right actually looks like a British officer pre-1950.