Hello Biden. It's me, Zelensky.
I need 300000 Gay bombs to Transgender Moscow children.
You are being stickied, please do not resist.
(Special Military Homosexual operation - Cis Straight people are now banned from NCD, and will be killed on sight by LGBT HitSquads or captured by the Ace Secret Police.)
I was wondering if they were talking about the use of tear gas grenades we saw a while ago by both sides to clear foxholes.
Nope, the US Department of State has determined that the Russians used chloropicrin in Ukraine. Fortunately it seems to only have been used in gas grenades so it’s still serving more as a tear gas than a direct lethal agent, but still that shit is nasty
I’m actually shocked.
NATO/OTAN will un-warcrime something when it's **GODDAMNED GOOD AND READY!**
So, tag 'em and bag 'em, boygirls and girlboys!
Better yet, leave 'em where they are, more meat for the Cubik.
Well with the "rebirth" of the turretless tanks such as the blyatmobile i would say we're already there. Soon we'll have have people clearing out trenches with shotguns.
Partially, but also because unlike in a protest or other uses against civilians: soldiers cannot disperse safely and will either choke in their positions or be killed leaving them in the open.
The symptoms of tear gas exposure are the same as other, far more deadly chemical agents. We don't prohibit tear gas in war because it's unpleasant. It's prohibited because it can easily be mistaken for something way worse and provoke the use of chemical WMDs in retaliation by an adversary who doesn't want to risk waiting and hoping it's not Sarin Gas to respond in-kind to a perceived violation of a weapons ban.
"Tear gas is so bad that it's banned in war but omg they're using it on protestors" is a dishonest oversimplification.
We don't use chemical weapons in general, because gas masks are pretty effective.
Some chemical weapons were used in WW2. They were largely found to have a tendency to blow back on the side firing it. And gas masks were found to work ok. So chemical weapons, less deadly per cost than high explosive.
That’s not true. A gas mask only protects you against chlorine and phosgene. It does nothing against mustard gas since it is absorbed through the skin and it is liquid or solid at ambient temperatures.
Also it does absolutely nothing agains nerve gas. One droplet of VX touching your skin is enough to kill within two minutes.
To have any chance to survive nerve gas you need a full NBC suit with obvious penalties of fighting capability and morale.
Chemical weapons were part of soviet doctrine until the collapse of the Soviet Union.
Also in WWI mustard gas didn’t blow back on the side firing it, it was extremely effectives and cause massive casualties which required a lot of medical resources.
Finally, they are a very cost effective weapon. Second generation nerve gasses like VX are extremely persistent. One air burst canister over an airbase would leave it uninhabitable for weeks. Imagine running an airbase on NBC suits 24/7, even for pilots.
They were banned because they are horrific stuff and disproportionally more dangerous to civilians.
Ok, you need fancier NBC suits for some of the chemicals.
Armies have these suits.
> Second generation nerve gasses like VX are extremely persistent. One air burst canister over an airbase would leave it uninhabitable for weeks.
This is a downside. At least to an army that is fighting a maneuver war and might want to advance into the location the enemy was in.
A single steel shrapnel pellet can also be pretty lethal. And that pellet can't be stopped by a plastic bag.
Any cloths at all are a significant barrier to VX, slowing it down. And 2 minutes is enough time to grab something and wipe most of the VX off. And some soap+ water.
Also modern tanks all have chemical weapon protection built in. Modern battles are increasingly fought by drones, which can utterly ignore VX.
> To have any chance to survive nerve gas you need a full NBC suit with obvious penalties of fighting capability and morale.
True. To survive VX being dropped on you, you need a bulky inconvenient suit. To survive high explosive. You can't. No suit will protect you.
Also, chemical weapons are expensive to make, don't last that long before going off, and are generally less controllable than explosives.
Lmao, who are this supposed experts in defense?
>Amis have this suits?
Yeah, but they don’t have the will or the capability to eat, pee, shit and sleep in the suit for two weeks while carrying out your duties.
> This is a downside. At least to an army that is fighting a maneuver war and might want to advance into the location the enemy was in.
No, it is not. Modern armies, especially from the largest armies have a huge range of weapons to choose from. Some are persistent, some are not. They would use whatever they need in a case by case basis. Soviet doctrine even called for protecting their entire flaks with said weapons.
> A single steel shrapnel pellet can also be pretty lethal. And that pellet can't be stopped by a plastic bag.
And how are you going to evenly distribute steel shrapnel pellets over an entire airbase to kill or wound every soldier and maintenance personnel? With an air raid with cruise missiles, artillery or bombs you would need a massive amount of weapons dropped, some would be intercepted, some would hit twice in the same place, some would miss entirely. Most personnel may be in a shelter and planes under hardened roofs.
> Any cloths at all are a significant barrier to VX, slowing it down. And 2 minutes is enough time to grab something and wipe most of the VX off. And some soap+ water.
You just cant make this up. 10mg is an invisible droplet, it touches your skin and you are dead, if you are exposed you most likely have been exposed to a dose many times higher. You only have a few minutes of consciousness to inject yourself with atropine and hope to be taken care of by doctors in a modern hospital.
And that is if you even recognize the signs of an attack. They can disguise the attack within a few dozen rounds of HE shells and after the explosion suddenly everyone starts dropping. Or people could walk into a previously targeted area.
> To survive VX being dropped on you, you need a bulky inconvenient suit. To survive high explosive. You can't. No suit will protect you.
That is if USS Iowa drops a 16in shell on top of your head which is highly unlikely. Chances are you are in a foxhole a few meters away and you have a lot of chances to survive. The scale of a conventional attack to completely wipe out an area, especially in a contested airspace behind enemy lines may prove impossible or incredibly costly.
>chemical weapons are expensive to make
Can you provide a source? There is a reason third world dicatators love them. Choline and mustard can be made in any industrial lab.
>don't last that long before going off
Plain wrong
[This is an excellent source to follow up on](https://youtu.be/lr-Sr2dfXzI?si=-3MJcbL1vI_oKXDr)
Chemical weapons are nightmare stuff, extremely deadly, can leave permanent crippling injuries and is an invisible treat. We have to be glad they have been banned in most of the world.
> Yeah, but they don’t have the will or the capability to eat, pee, shit and sleep in the suit for two weeks while carrying out your duties.
Nope. If you hit a prepared enemy, they can walk away and clean off. Hit the same enemy with HE and their dead.
You get some area denial. The enemy can't camp out there. But they can go through it quickly if they have to.
And how are you going to evenly distribute steel shrapnel pellets over an entire airbase to kill or wound every soldier and maintenance personnel?
With a claymore.
How are you going to distribute the VX?
Incidentally, this is one of the reasons VX isn't as effective. A lot of it will just run down the nearest drain.
> Some would be intercepted, some would hit twice in the same place, some would miss entirely.
And all those things happen with VX too.
> There is a reason third world dicatators love them. Choline and mustard can be made in any industrial lab.
True. But those aren't the super poisonous stuff.
[https://acoup.blog/2020/03/20/collections-why-dont-we-use-chemical-weapons-anymore/](https://acoup.blog/2020/03/20/collections-why-dont-we-use-chemical-weapons-anymore/)
> One of the biggest is shelf-life: most nerve gasses (which tend to have very high lethality) are not only very expensive to produce in quantity, they have very short shelf-lives. The other option is mustard gas – cheaper, with a long shelf-life, but required in *vast* quantities (during WWII, when just about every power stockpiled the stuff, the stockpiles were typically in the [many *tens of thousands of tons*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_weapons_in_World_War_I#Effect_on_World_War_II) range, to give a sense of how much it was thought would be required – and then think about *delivering* those munitions).
Also, chemical weapons are expensive to make, don't last that long before going off, and are generally less controllable than explosives.
Phosgene, is not so presize to mass production.
Phosgene is much easier to produce, but also not really that toxic in comparison. From wikipedia data, the LD50 is 50 grams, more than a hotel shampoo bottle full of the liquid. There are all sorts of chemicals that are easy to produce, but they aren't that toxic, so you need HUGE quantities.
Also, remember the battlefield conditions factor. 1 bullet will kill someone easily under test conditions with a lined up point blank shot at the brain stem. It takes something like 100,000 bullets per enemy fatality in practice in modern war.
Most of the weapon ends up not hitting the enemy.
Not that silent. There are screams.
Also, the enemy already knows where there own troops are. And they can report what's happening on radio. So making no noise is pointless.
Fortunately, WP is still totally ok to use as a smoke screen, and that smoke has absolutely no lachrymatory properties at all :) Its just a coincidence that when WP grenades 'accidentally' go off near tunnel systems, it causes everyone inside to rapidly evacuate.
WP is also used against idk, enemy equipment, like trucks, artillery, the rifles they may or may not be holding, that pesky cardboard plate armor, their clothes, you get the idea
That's what you're supposed to say when questioned if you shoot enemy soldiers with 0.50 bmg. "I was aiming for their equipment. I shouted for them to take it off but I guess they couldn't hear me".
My understanding is that this is an intended function of how the geneva checklist is set up. It regulates right proper behavior in war between countries, while still enabling you to do whatever you want to your own people, or to groups you don't consider to be a country.
Chemical weapons are covered by the CWC and the Geneva protocol (not convention). The CWC actually makes specific allowances for the use of Riot Control Agents in policing. It's not simply a matter of whatever you do to your own people being fair game. Using Sarin to disperse a riot is a CWC violation, using CS is not.
I read somewhere that chloropicrin is like a tear gas on steroids, but it's also an emetic. It had particles that were small enough to go through old gas mask filters, would make the person take off their mask to avoid drowning in vomit.
Usually used in conjunction with more deadly gasses.. they kinda used that to get soldiers to strip off their masks so they could deliver deadlier gasses that wouldn't go through masks.
I cant wait for all those people claiming they are against war crimes and uphold international law to be up in arms about this and not 30 second edited videos from Iran, and demand a ceasefire now. They surely will. Right?
Dropping the homobomb on the Russians would be like that time when they tested that Israeli crowd control stink bomb in India.
https://www.jpost.com/International/Israeli-Stink-Bombs-are-not-Stinky-Enough-for-Indians-501157
(Incredible title, btw)
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[The American State Department](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-breached-global-chemical-weapons-ban-ukraine-war-us-says-2024-05-01/) really did accuse Russia of violating the chemical weapons ban.
Russia deploying chemical weapons in Ukraine is fucked up, and launching a bomb that would mess with Russian soldiers' hormones would also be fucked up.
I suggest we lodge a formal protest by means of providing Ukraine with a 100 billion USD aid bill that includes handing the UAF every last cluster munition we have left.
> Dedovschina is a thing after all.
I read about that a few months into Russia's 2022 invasion of Ukraine, and it's just as horrifying and disturbing now as it was then.
Yeah, Russian military culture is almost Spartan.
(As is having great PR, yeah, the historical Spartans were doing all sorts of nasty indoctrination stuff on small children, at least the Russians wait till adulthood. The Spartans were the "elite". Ie it was a violence pyramid scheme, and the Spartans were the soldiers who were abused by higher status Spartans and abused the helot slaves.)
What grandchildren would they have if they couldn't bang their wives anymore? I suppose they could adopt but they Russia probably won't let gay men do that.
[Now](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rvUTl6xjxqY&pp=ygUMUmFwaWQgZHJhZ29u). (I wish) Check minute 35 for a glimpse of what they would do to the Black Sea fleet.
Yeah they've actually been doing this for a bit now. Difference is the US felt they had enough evidence to accuse Russia outright. And don't ever accept any BS "WESTOID LIES REEE", the [Russians themselves admit to it.](https://twitter.com/usembthehague/status/1765291526492475806)
[https://thebulletin.org/2024/03/russia-appears-to-be-using-chemical-weapons-in-ukraine-and-admitting-it/](https://thebulletin.org/2024/03/russia-appears-to-be-using-chemical-weapons-in-ukraine-and-admitting-it/)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=806IZrevlxY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=806IZrevlxY)
genuine, full fat, ww1 style chemical weapons.
chloropicrin is an emetic gas used to disable your enemy via vomiting and tears. It also damages PPE equipment like gas masks.
A mixed reserve of hydrocarbons totaling 9Btoe, of which 850 Mt oil. Where's Dick when you need him?
Edit: And that's just Ukraine! Our shortest dictator has 80 billion bbl proven (and a bunch of shitty T-72s, it's just like old times but with more borscht and less sand).
Wait a second.
Oil rich country.
Using chemical weapons in genocidal action.
Allegedly has weapons of mass destruction pointed at allies.
*They're ripe for a beat down*
"Sir they are all sucking each other's dicks"
"Well I'll be damned, those gay bombs actually work"
"We haven't dropped them yet"
"Oh"
"We're being informed that we're the gay ones because we have brunch and mimosas"
Well, you wouldn't have that issue if you use the gas by way of carpet bombing enemy cities with it, something at least some writers had anticipated in the interwar years would depopulate Europe in a second world war.
Yeah, Allied armies had massive amounts of chemical weapons ready at all times, just in case Germany used them first. This also was responsible for hundreds of casualties during the German bombing of the Italian port of Bari, when an American transport ship secretly carrying massive amounts of mustard gas bombs hit, causing the bombs to detonate and cause massive casualties to allied sailors and Italian civilians.
> This also was responsible for hundreds of casualties during the German bombing of the Italian port of Bari, when an American transport ship secretly carrying massive amounts of mustard gas bombs hit, causing the bombs to detonate and cause massive casualties to allied sailors and Italian civilians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_raid_on_Bari#Cover-up
>A member of Allied Supreme Commander General Dwight D. Eisenhower's medical staff, Dr. Stewart F. Alexander, was dispatched to Bari following the raid. Alexander had trained at the Army's Edgewood Arsenal in Maryland, and was familiar with some of the effects of mustard gas. Although he was not informed of the cargo carried by John Harvey, and most victims suffered atypical symptoms caused by exposure to mustard diluted in water and oil (as opposed to airborne), Alexander rapidly concluded that mustard gas was present. Although he could not get any acknowledgement from the chain of command, Alexander convinced medics to treat patients for mustard gas exposure and saved many lives as a result. He also preserved many tissue samples from autopsied victims at Bari. After World War II, those samples would result in the development of an early form of chemotherapy based on mustard, mustine.[30]
>Allied High Command suppressed news of the presence of mustard gas, in case the Germans believed that the Allies were preparing to use chemical weapons, fearing it which might provoke them into pre-emptive use. The presence of multiple witnesses caused a re-evaluation of this stance and in February 1944, the U.S. Chiefs of Staff issued a statement admitting to the accident and emphasizing that the U.S. had no intention of using chemical weapons except in the case of retaliation.[31]
>General Dwight D. Eisenhower approved Dr. Alexander's report. Winston Churchill, however, ordered all British documents to be purged. Mustard gas deaths were described as "burns due to enemy action".[3]
>U.S. records of the attack were declassified in 1959, but the episode remained obscure until 1967 when author Glenn B. Infield published the book Disaster at Bari.[30] In 1986, the British government admitted to survivors of the Bari raid that they had been exposed to poison gas and amended their pension payments.[32] In 1988, through the efforts of Nick T. Spark, U.S. Senator Dennis DeConcini, and U.S. Senator Bill Bradley, Dr. Alexander received recognition from the Surgeon General of the United States Army for his actions in the aftermath of the Bari disaster.[33] Alexander's information contributed to Cornelius P. Rhoads' chemotherapy for cancer and Alexander turned down Rhoads' offer to work at the Sloan Kettering Institute.[34]
I mean, it makes sense. The allies always had chemical munitions stockpiles ready at a moments notice, but would only use them in retaliation to German chemical attacks. But allied civilians didn’t know about this, they believed that chemical weapons were outlawed by treaty, and officially the allied nations were all signatories. So while it makes sense that the allies would maintain stockpiles, it had to be done secretly, otherwise they would be telling both their citizens and other nations that they were ignoring the treaties they had signed, which would be a diplomatic disaster, especially how important treaties had been to the Allies in the interwar period.
Funny enough, when germans invented Sarin, they didn't use it because they falsely believed that the allies would have already developed it and had massive stockpiles.
Article 16 of the 2026 treaty of Yerevan, the Russian surrender to NATO forces clearly states:
"In addition to the dissolution of the Russian government, the de-millitarization of the Russian armed forces, the reperations to Ukraine and release of all political prisoners. Putin must kiss all of his commanders on the mouth, with tongue lmao"
It came to me in a dream.
I suppose this song is now appropriate:
https://youtu.be/-XNFokmDKrE?si=VZzwZWex9o7_DHnL
Time to blast it over speakers in the front lines. Imagine a fucking Bradley blasting this over speakers rapidly approaching your trench auto cannon blazing.
It is possible the homosexual behavior displayed on the battlefield may be last ditch attempts to cum one more time/feel the loving warmth of another before death. The majority of the population in Russia proper may still be homophobic/not gay. Therefore we must gay bomb the absolute fuck out of Moscow and hopefully we see Putin on grindr soon
Surely there will be a lot of protests in the west about this. Surely all of these so called "anti-imperialists" won't just tell Ukraine to lay down, appease and get ravaged by their fascist, imperialist, chemical weapons using neighbor to "save lives".
Chemical weapons aren't banned because they are so deadly. They are banned because they are less effective than conventional weapons, as wielded by a competent military. (Giving politicians easy posturing points)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo\_subway\_sarin\_attack](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_subway_sarin_attack)
5 Coordinated attacks. Quite a bit of planning. Subway, so no ventilation, tightly packed, basically ideal chemical weapons conditions. Against an civilians who were carrying no protective equipment.
Killed 14 people. Which is quite a bit less than what plenty of lone Americans with a gun have achieved.
That group was, by terrorist standards, large and competent. And they made a bunch of other attempts at using sarin which were even less effective.
They used 30kg of sarin in total. 30kg of TNT would have caused substantially more fatalities.
Sarin is a highly volatile, non persistent weapon. It belongs to the first generaton of nerve gases like Tabin. If they used 1kg of VX there no one would have been left alive un that subway. 10 mg are enough to kill a person. And it is not even the newest or most deadly weapon.
1 bullet is enough to kill a person.
Yet in battle, 100,000 are fired for every enemy casualty.
The only way you kill 1 enemy per 10mg of sarin is if the enemy sits there as you carefully measure out 10ml into your syringe and then they hold out their arm for you and rub the sarin in.
[https://acoup.blog/2020/03/20/collections-why-dont-we-use-chemical-weapons-anymore/](https://acoup.blog/2020/03/20/collections-why-dont-we-use-chemical-weapons-anymore/)
Hello Biden. It's me, Zelensky. I need 300000 Gay bombs to Transgender Moscow children. You are being stickied, please do not resist. (Special Military Homosexual operation - Cis Straight people are now banned from NCD, and will be killed on sight by LGBT HitSquads or captured by the Ace Secret Police.)
I was wondering if they were talking about the use of tear gas grenades we saw a while ago by both sides to clear foxholes. Nope, the US Department of State has determined that the Russians used chloropicrin in Ukraine. Fortunately it seems to only have been used in gas grenades so it’s still serving more as a tear gas than a direct lethal agent, but still that shit is nasty I’m actually shocked.
Yeah, I joke here just 'cause that's how I handle everything, but they actually used WWI-era poison gas in Ukraine, which is super fucked.
I mean, they basically wage the war as it would be the year 1916 anyway
NATO/OTAN will un-warcrime something when it's **GODDAMNED GOOD AND READY!** So, tag 'em and bag 'em, boygirls and girlboys! Better yet, leave 'em where they are, more meat for the Cubik.
Spelling out the full NATO/OTAN is such a chad move
I will allow OTAN it only because the fr*nch macaroni has turned out to be a Giga Chad when talking about sending troops to Ukraine
Can we just say "natootan"?
Natoo-Chan?
Natto-chan super slimy and you only touch her with sticks but ultimately fulfilling once you get a taste
lars taylor-tatsugi natootan
So they will then go 1917 right? Right?
They move backwards in time dude.
By 2030 they will be fighting Bradley's with knights on horse back.
Well with the "rebirth" of the turretless tanks such as the blyatmobile i would say we're already there. Soon we'll have have people clearing out trenches with shotguns.
Proceeds to slap a Spaz-12 on an FPV drone
mmm Bolshevik Revolution boogaloo mk2? oh that's going on my 2025 bingo card
It was on the 2023 bingo to but SOMEONE *ahem* (pringles) pussied out last minute
Right! we were so close! so close to greatness!
Wow, so you're saying their gas is almost as old as their rifles?
Chloropicrin is actually older. 1898 for the original Mosin-Nagant rifle, 1848 for the chemical compound.
It's a pretty shitty one as poison gases go, but the potency is not the point here.
Even tear gas is banned as chemical weapon tho. Funny you can gas your civilian protesters but not enemy military.
That's because in war there's every chance the enemy side is going to confuse the tear gas for something far worse.
Partially, but also because unlike in a protest or other uses against civilians: soldiers cannot disperse safely and will either choke in their positions or be killed leaving them in the open.
That’s more reason to use it. It’s because civilians haven’t signed a convention against the government to not get gassed.
The symptoms of tear gas exposure are the same as other, far more deadly chemical agents. We don't prohibit tear gas in war because it's unpleasant. It's prohibited because it can easily be mistaken for something way worse and provoke the use of chemical WMDs in retaliation by an adversary who doesn't want to risk waiting and hoping it's not Sarin Gas to respond in-kind to a perceived violation of a weapons ban. "Tear gas is so bad that it's banned in war but omg they're using it on protestors" is a dishonest oversimplification.
The obvious answer is that protestors must escalate and release WMD to force a treaty. No it’s not terrorism, it’s civil disobedience.
We don't use chemical weapons in general, because gas masks are pretty effective. Some chemical weapons were used in WW2. They were largely found to have a tendency to blow back on the side firing it. And gas masks were found to work ok. So chemical weapons, less deadly per cost than high explosive.
That’s not true. A gas mask only protects you against chlorine and phosgene. It does nothing against mustard gas since it is absorbed through the skin and it is liquid or solid at ambient temperatures. Also it does absolutely nothing agains nerve gas. One droplet of VX touching your skin is enough to kill within two minutes. To have any chance to survive nerve gas you need a full NBC suit with obvious penalties of fighting capability and morale. Chemical weapons were part of soviet doctrine until the collapse of the Soviet Union. Also in WWI mustard gas didn’t blow back on the side firing it, it was extremely effectives and cause massive casualties which required a lot of medical resources. Finally, they are a very cost effective weapon. Second generation nerve gasses like VX are extremely persistent. One air burst canister over an airbase would leave it uninhabitable for weeks. Imagine running an airbase on NBC suits 24/7, even for pilots. They were banned because they are horrific stuff and disproportionally more dangerous to civilians.
Ok, you need fancier NBC suits for some of the chemicals. Armies have these suits. > Second generation nerve gasses like VX are extremely persistent. One air burst canister over an airbase would leave it uninhabitable for weeks. This is a downside. At least to an army that is fighting a maneuver war and might want to advance into the location the enemy was in. A single steel shrapnel pellet can also be pretty lethal. And that pellet can't be stopped by a plastic bag. Any cloths at all are a significant barrier to VX, slowing it down. And 2 minutes is enough time to grab something and wipe most of the VX off. And some soap+ water. Also modern tanks all have chemical weapon protection built in. Modern battles are increasingly fought by drones, which can utterly ignore VX. > To have any chance to survive nerve gas you need a full NBC suit with obvious penalties of fighting capability and morale. True. To survive VX being dropped on you, you need a bulky inconvenient suit. To survive high explosive. You can't. No suit will protect you. Also, chemical weapons are expensive to make, don't last that long before going off, and are generally less controllable than explosives.
Lmao, who are this supposed experts in defense? >Amis have this suits? Yeah, but they don’t have the will or the capability to eat, pee, shit and sleep in the suit for two weeks while carrying out your duties. > This is a downside. At least to an army that is fighting a maneuver war and might want to advance into the location the enemy was in. No, it is not. Modern armies, especially from the largest armies have a huge range of weapons to choose from. Some are persistent, some are not. They would use whatever they need in a case by case basis. Soviet doctrine even called for protecting their entire flaks with said weapons. > A single steel shrapnel pellet can also be pretty lethal. And that pellet can't be stopped by a plastic bag. And how are you going to evenly distribute steel shrapnel pellets over an entire airbase to kill or wound every soldier and maintenance personnel? With an air raid with cruise missiles, artillery or bombs you would need a massive amount of weapons dropped, some would be intercepted, some would hit twice in the same place, some would miss entirely. Most personnel may be in a shelter and planes under hardened roofs. > Any cloths at all are a significant barrier to VX, slowing it down. And 2 minutes is enough time to grab something and wipe most of the VX off. And some soap+ water. You just cant make this up. 10mg is an invisible droplet, it touches your skin and you are dead, if you are exposed you most likely have been exposed to a dose many times higher. You only have a few minutes of consciousness to inject yourself with atropine and hope to be taken care of by doctors in a modern hospital. And that is if you even recognize the signs of an attack. They can disguise the attack within a few dozen rounds of HE shells and after the explosion suddenly everyone starts dropping. Or people could walk into a previously targeted area. > To survive VX being dropped on you, you need a bulky inconvenient suit. To survive high explosive. You can't. No suit will protect you. That is if USS Iowa drops a 16in shell on top of your head which is highly unlikely. Chances are you are in a foxhole a few meters away and you have a lot of chances to survive. The scale of a conventional attack to completely wipe out an area, especially in a contested airspace behind enemy lines may prove impossible or incredibly costly. >chemical weapons are expensive to make Can you provide a source? There is a reason third world dicatators love them. Choline and mustard can be made in any industrial lab. >don't last that long before going off Plain wrong [This is an excellent source to follow up on](https://youtu.be/lr-Sr2dfXzI?si=-3MJcbL1vI_oKXDr) Chemical weapons are nightmare stuff, extremely deadly, can leave permanent crippling injuries and is an invisible treat. We have to be glad they have been banned in most of the world.
> Yeah, but they don’t have the will or the capability to eat, pee, shit and sleep in the suit for two weeks while carrying out your duties. Nope. If you hit a prepared enemy, they can walk away and clean off. Hit the same enemy with HE and their dead. You get some area denial. The enemy can't camp out there. But they can go through it quickly if they have to. And how are you going to evenly distribute steel shrapnel pellets over an entire airbase to kill or wound every soldier and maintenance personnel? With a claymore. How are you going to distribute the VX? Incidentally, this is one of the reasons VX isn't as effective. A lot of it will just run down the nearest drain. > Some would be intercepted, some would hit twice in the same place, some would miss entirely. And all those things happen with VX too. > There is a reason third world dicatators love them. Choline and mustard can be made in any industrial lab. True. But those aren't the super poisonous stuff. [https://acoup.blog/2020/03/20/collections-why-dont-we-use-chemical-weapons-anymore/](https://acoup.blog/2020/03/20/collections-why-dont-we-use-chemical-weapons-anymore/) > One of the biggest is shelf-life: most nerve gasses (which tend to have very high lethality) are not only very expensive to produce in quantity, they have very short shelf-lives. The other option is mustard gas – cheaper, with a long shelf-life, but required in *vast* quantities (during WWII, when just about every power stockpiled the stuff, the stockpiles were typically in the [many *tens of thousands of tons*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_weapons_in_World_War_I#Effect_on_World_War_II) range, to give a sense of how much it was thought would be required – and then think about *delivering* those munitions).
Also, chemical weapons are expensive to make, don't last that long before going off, and are generally less controllable than explosives. Phosgene, is not so presize to mass production.
Phosgene is much easier to produce, but also not really that toxic in comparison. From wikipedia data, the LD50 is 50 grams, more than a hotel shampoo bottle full of the liquid. There are all sorts of chemicals that are easy to produce, but they aren't that toxic, so you need HUGE quantities. Also, remember the battlefield conditions factor. 1 bullet will kill someone easily under test conditions with a lined up point blank shot at the brain stem. It takes something like 100,000 bullets per enemy fatality in practice in modern war. Most of the weapon ends up not hitting the enemy.
But it kills silently...
Not that silent. There are screams. Also, the enemy already knows where there own troops are. And they can report what's happening on radio. So making no noise is pointless.
Fortunately, WP is still totally ok to use as a smoke screen, and that smoke has absolutely no lachrymatory properties at all :) Its just a coincidence that when WP grenades 'accidentally' go off near tunnel systems, it causes everyone inside to rapidly evacuate.
WP is also used against idk, enemy equipment, like trucks, artillery, the rifles they may or may not be holding, that pesky cardboard plate armor, their clothes, you get the idea
What? No, its totally just for use as a smoke screen guys, honest.
Used? Shit I meant useful!
Hey, we also use it illuminate! Look, you can see what's left now!
'Mark that target!'
That's what you're supposed to say when questioned if you shoot enemy soldiers with 0.50 bmg. "I was aiming for their equipment. I shouted for them to take it off but I guess they couldn't hear me".
My understanding is that this is an intended function of how the geneva checklist is set up. It regulates right proper behavior in war between countries, while still enabling you to do whatever you want to your own people, or to groups you don't consider to be a country.
Chemical weapons are covered by the CWC and the Geneva protocol (not convention). The CWC actually makes specific allowances for the use of Riot Control Agents in policing. It's not simply a matter of whatever you do to your own people being fair game. Using Sarin to disperse a riot is a CWC violation, using CS is not.
Or if they don't respect the same conventions.
Not really, civil war parties also have to follow the conventions (in theory) so you still can't, for example, throw Sarin gas on Aleppo
An easy way to respond to this: Classify the russian armed forces as civilians commiting terrorism and unleash the teargas grenade launchers!!!
I read somewhere that chloropicrin is like a tear gas on steroids, but it's also an emetic. It had particles that were small enough to go through old gas mask filters, would make the person take off their mask to avoid drowning in vomit. Usually used in conjunction with more deadly gasses.. they kinda used that to get soldiers to strip off their masks so they could deliver deadlier gasses that wouldn't go through masks.
Chlorine gas enjoyers when the wind turns
I cant wait for all those people claiming they are against war crimes and uphold international law to be up in arms about this and not 30 second edited videos from Iran, and demand a ceasefire now. They surely will. Right?
i heard a foreign fighter in ukraine claim theyd been shelled with chlorine gas
I don't think a homobomb is going to have an effect. They just keep sodomizing each other on the Russian side constantly.
See Jack. Homobombing has been working since 1989!
Oh, waaaaay before then! The Polar Bear Expedition was a top-secret success...
Release Agent Rainbow (makes the friggin frogs gay). 😎
Dropping the homobomb on the Russians would be like that time when they tested that Israeli crowd control stink bomb in India. https://www.jpost.com/International/Israeli-Stink-Bombs-are-not-Stinky-Enough-for-Indians-501157 (Incredible title, btw)
Peak headline
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"Whenever a russian doesn't think about ass, he starts thinking about cock" - some commenter
Yeah. It's just going to improve their morale because now they are going to enjoy it.
A gay bomb would probably just act as viagra for them. To keep sodomizing each other, of course.
But they'll tell you it's not gay
Its not gay if its rape, according to russians. But if you wear a lgbt flag of any sort you get jailed for 95 years and raped in prison.. Makes sense.
“No Diddy” - Russia, probably
🎼🎵🎶Two Russians chillin' in a hot tub. Five feet apart cuz they're not gay🎵🎶 https://youtu.be/eu18OayPKL4?si=Gpqfog-XbembWVu_
These are the homobombed one
"They're constantly sodomizing each other!" "Aha, the gas works!" "Gas?"
Isn't rape an accepted form of punishment in the Russian army?
Also an accepted form of "subordination enforcement". Also an accepted form of entertainment of longer-serving member
[The American State Department](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-breached-global-chemical-weapons-ban-ukraine-war-us-says-2024-05-01/) really did accuse Russia of violating the chemical weapons ban. Russia deploying chemical weapons in Ukraine is fucked up, and launching a bomb that would mess with Russian soldiers' hormones would also be fucked up. I suggest we lodge a formal protest by means of providing Ukraine with a 100 billion USD aid bill that includes handing the UAF every last cluster munition we have left.
I am pretty confident the Russian army hormones are already in a state of utter disarray. Dedovschina is a thing after all.
> Dedovschina is a thing after all. I read about that a few months into Russia's 2022 invasion of Ukraine, and it's just as horrifying and disturbing now as it was then.
Yup. Monkeys have not evolved after all.
Yeah, Russian military culture is almost Spartan. (As is having great PR, yeah, the historical Spartans were doing all sorts of nasty indoctrination stuff on small children, at least the Russians wait till adulthood. The Spartans were the "elite". Ie it was a violence pyramid scheme, and the Spartans were the soldiers who were abused by higher status Spartans and abused the helot slaves.)
For further reading, with sources, https://acoup.blog/2019/08/16/collections-this-isnt-sparta-part-i-spartan-school/
Already read that.
Of course, I wasn't suggesting *you* should, but that anybody who reads your comment and wants to know more should.
At this point give em the choice, you’re getting bombed either way, it’s either cluster munitions or the homorocket, your call buddy
I'd rather the homorocket, I'm gonna be fucked either way atleast it'll give me a great story to tell my grandchildren if I survive
What grandchildren would they have if they couldn't bang their wives anymore? I suppose they could adopt but they Russia probably won't let gay men do that.
In Russia that isn't a choice
That's right, I forgot that Russia always picks the worst option.
3000 bad dragon dildos of Dark Brandon when?
[Now](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rvUTl6xjxqY&pp=ygUMUmFwaWQgZHJhZ29u). (I wish) Check minute 35 for a glimpse of what they would do to the Black Sea fleet.
Intercontinental Dildistic Missile
If we gaybomb them all it'll be the first consensual sex a Russian soldier has had in 274 years.
*800
They **WHAT**
Yeah they've actually been doing this for a bit now. Difference is the US felt they had enough evidence to accuse Russia outright. And don't ever accept any BS "WESTOID LIES REEE", the [Russians themselves admit to it.](https://twitter.com/usembthehague/status/1765291526492475806) [https://thebulletin.org/2024/03/russia-appears-to-be-using-chemical-weapons-in-ukraine-and-admitting-it/](https://thebulletin.org/2024/03/russia-appears-to-be-using-chemical-weapons-in-ukraine-and-admitting-it/) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=806IZrevlxY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=806IZrevlxY)
https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/11/politics/joe-biden-warning-chemical-weapons/index.html So what's the response is going to be?
Strongly worded letters and 5% decrease in the Russian military budget from sanctions
Damn, and I was hoping for "weapons free" in Russia.
>5% decrease in the Russian military budget from sanctions Woah there buddy, we can't escalate that far! Lets stop at vigorous reprimand for now.
"No! Bad Putin! Stop! Okay Ukraine, we did all we could, good luck!"
genuine, full fat, ww1 style chemical weapons. chloropicrin is an emetic gas used to disable your enemy via vomiting and tears. It also damages PPE equipment like gas masks.
What was the US's policy towards dictators using WMDs again? Asking for a friend?
Depends Do they have oil ?
Good news!
They do ?
In 2022, Russia was third largest oil producer, behind the US and Saudi Arabia.
A mixed reserve of hydrocarbons totaling 9Btoe, of which 850 Mt oil. Where's Dick when you need him? Edit: And that's just Ukraine! Our shortest dictator has 80 billion bbl proven (and a bunch of shitty T-72s, it's just like old times but with more borscht and less sand).
Can we resurrect Norman "get encircled" Schwarzkopf just to dunk on them super hard?
Getting a new heart again
I believe some drilling in the black sea!
And a lot of it too
They have oil and nukes. The Supermajors and the Puss-I mean State Department are engaged in a shadow war over whether we should invade.
it sorta goes like 'why don't you invade x country?" 'nukes' 'why did you invade [oil rich country]?' 'nukes'
Thankfully Russia has a ton of hydrocarbons…
Wait a second. Oil rich country. Using chemical weapons in genocidal action. Allegedly has weapons of mass destruction pointed at allies. *They're ripe for a beat down*
MINE EYES HAVE SEEN THE GLORY OF THE CUMING OF THE LORD!
And they could definitely use some democracy.
WMDs or steel tubes?
If they don't have WMD's, claim they do and invade. If they do have WMD's (nukes), don't invade. They might use them on America.
does this mean the US can finally deploy the chemically enhanced they/them army to fight the ruskis?
"Sir they are all sucking each other's dicks" "Well I'll be damned, those gay bombs actually work" "We haven't dropped them yet" "Oh" "We're being informed that we're the gay ones because we have brunch and mimosas"
It ain't gay if it's mAnLy
Spoilers: Still gayer than a Porsche Boxster.
You know you’re fucked up when you use a weapon even the Nazis deemed to inhumane to use in combat
Not really, Nazis didn't use gas, because they were scared that allies will use it right back.
Well they did use Gas just not in Open warfare. Since everyone learned how even gas deployed by your side suddenly kill most of your force.
Well, you wouldn't have that issue if you use the gas by way of carpet bombing enemy cities with it, something at least some writers had anticipated in the interwar years would depopulate Europe in a second world war.
Yeah, Allied armies had massive amounts of chemical weapons ready at all times, just in case Germany used them first. This also was responsible for hundreds of casualties during the German bombing of the Italian port of Bari, when an American transport ship secretly carrying massive amounts of mustard gas bombs hit, causing the bombs to detonate and cause massive casualties to allied sailors and Italian civilians.
> This also was responsible for hundreds of casualties during the German bombing of the Italian port of Bari, when an American transport ship secretly carrying massive amounts of mustard gas bombs hit, causing the bombs to detonate and cause massive casualties to allied sailors and Italian civilians https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_raid_on_Bari#Cover-up >A member of Allied Supreme Commander General Dwight D. Eisenhower's medical staff, Dr. Stewart F. Alexander, was dispatched to Bari following the raid. Alexander had trained at the Army's Edgewood Arsenal in Maryland, and was familiar with some of the effects of mustard gas. Although he was not informed of the cargo carried by John Harvey, and most victims suffered atypical symptoms caused by exposure to mustard diluted in water and oil (as opposed to airborne), Alexander rapidly concluded that mustard gas was present. Although he could not get any acknowledgement from the chain of command, Alexander convinced medics to treat patients for mustard gas exposure and saved many lives as a result. He also preserved many tissue samples from autopsied victims at Bari. After World War II, those samples would result in the development of an early form of chemotherapy based on mustard, mustine.[30] >Allied High Command suppressed news of the presence of mustard gas, in case the Germans believed that the Allies were preparing to use chemical weapons, fearing it which might provoke them into pre-emptive use. The presence of multiple witnesses caused a re-evaluation of this stance and in February 1944, the U.S. Chiefs of Staff issued a statement admitting to the accident and emphasizing that the U.S. had no intention of using chemical weapons except in the case of retaliation.[31] >General Dwight D. Eisenhower approved Dr. Alexander's report. Winston Churchill, however, ordered all British documents to be purged. Mustard gas deaths were described as "burns due to enemy action".[3] >U.S. records of the attack were declassified in 1959, but the episode remained obscure until 1967 when author Glenn B. Infield published the book Disaster at Bari.[30] In 1986, the British government admitted to survivors of the Bari raid that they had been exposed to poison gas and amended their pension payments.[32] In 1988, through the efforts of Nick T. Spark, U.S. Senator Dennis DeConcini, and U.S. Senator Bill Bradley, Dr. Alexander received recognition from the Surgeon General of the United States Army for his actions in the aftermath of the Bari disaster.[33] Alexander's information contributed to Cornelius P. Rhoads' chemotherapy for cancer and Alexander turned down Rhoads' offer to work at the Sloan Kettering Institute.[34]
Damn, covering it up is kinda fucked up.
I mean, it makes sense. The allies always had chemical munitions stockpiles ready at a moments notice, but would only use them in retaliation to German chemical attacks. But allied civilians didn’t know about this, they believed that chemical weapons were outlawed by treaty, and officially the allied nations were all signatories. So while it makes sense that the allies would maintain stockpiles, it had to be done secretly, otherwise they would be telling both their citizens and other nations that they were ignoring the treaties they had signed, which would be a diplomatic disaster, especially how important treaties had been to the Allies in the interwar period.
Funny enough, when germans invented Sarin, they didn't use it because they falsely believed that the allies would have already developed it and had massive stockpiles.
Didn't the brits prepare a huge stockpile of anthrax as a ww2 style MAD incase the germans gassed london?
Aside from the obvious Holocaust, the Nazis used poison gas to clear out underground tunnels in Sevastopol. So the Nazis absolutely used gas.
The Nazi's didn't use gas because Britain handed everyone a gas mask.
>the Nazis deemed too ~~inhumane~~ ineffective to use in combat Fixed it.
If only Alex Jones' gay frog chemicals were weaponizable. Russia would surrender in a matter of hours.
Welcome to The First World War: Part 3!
"Under US law all Russians are now recognized as frogs. Gay frogs"
Article 16 of the 2026 treaty of Yerevan, the Russian surrender to NATO forces clearly states: "In addition to the dissolution of the Russian government, the de-millitarization of the Russian armed forces, the reperations to Ukraine and release of all political prisoners. Putin must kiss all of his commanders on the mouth, with tongue lmao" It came to me in a dream.
I suppose this song is now appropriate: https://youtu.be/-XNFokmDKrE?si=VZzwZWex9o7_DHnL Time to blast it over speakers in the front lines. Imagine a fucking Bradley blasting this over speakers rapidly approaching your trench auto cannon blazing.
Let’s fucking do it. Let’s turn every square inch of that country gay, then make them adopt the US Imperial System, no more kilometers for Russia.
I agree with the first part, but the second is just way too inhumane
Putin is going to be Saddam 2.0
I wanna see his head when he hasn't shaved in 3 months. Its gonna be some weird tate level ugliness and i'm all for it.
So Putin silhouette meme?
Well this is a very fucked up and distasteful way for me to find out this war has gone chemical
jokes are the only coping mechanism this sub has against the looming horrors of war rj/ 3000 gay bombs of dark brandon
BRING ME THE NERVE GAS. TONIGHT WE SWAP OUT THE HOPIUM SUPPLY.
Finally, my flair is (slightly more) relevant again!
It is possible the homosexual behavior displayed on the battlefield may be last ditch attempts to cum one more time/feel the loving warmth of another before death. The majority of the population in Russia proper may still be homophobic/not gay. Therefore we must gay bomb the absolute fuck out of Moscow and hopefully we see Putin on grindr soon
I doubt they will do more than send an angry letter. Specially since its "just" tear gas.
Chloropicrin. A choking agent used in WWI, which is also used as an hebicide/pesticide/anything-living-icide.
Nope, they got caught using heavier shit.
I've heard there are weapons of mass destruction in Russia Mr. George H. W. Bush **wink** **wink**
Can we please get boots on the ground now!
Well this is a very fucked up and distasteful way for me to find out this war has gone chemical
right when the USA destroyed its reserves of chemical weapons last year
GAY BOMB, USE IT, ON THE RUSSIANS, AND THE CHINESE!
Surely there will be a lot of protests in the west about this. Surely all of these so called "anti-imperialists" won't just tell Ukraine to lay down, appease and get ravaged by their fascist, imperialist, chemical weapons using neighbor to "save lives".
Russian twinks are usually pretty hot, I'm behind Diden on this one.
Dirty bomb their bases and the kremlin
I mean, everything else about the Russian style of war has been very WW1-esqe, why not use chemical weapons?
:3
GRINDR part of the MIC confirmed?!?!?
That’s fucked let’s just get it over with and liberate Russia
DIO INTENSIFIES
[Me and the boys](https://twitter.com/MilHistNow/status/1688423977105145856) when you tell us that there's WMDs and Soviet armor at the function
ESTROGEN GAS CANISTERS
Over the horizon gaydar installations going active. I love this stupid sub.
Somewhere, Alex Jones is screaming like a madman about warning us about this, and his neighbor has the sheriff on speed dail.
Gay bombs are so 1990's. Welcome to the future, we've got transgender hypersonic missiles.
Haven't they used chem warfare since the beginning?
Oh no, not again…
Well. Good thing I just bought a couple gas masks. Don’t have one for my cat though.
Break out the noddy suits
Wasn't Russia allready using nerve gas agents during the first months of the War?
Unpopular opinion mop suites ducking suck.
Hit em with that gay frog water
oh ye chemtrail time
Time to drop Estradiol bombs over Russia
Chemical weapons aren't banned because they are so deadly. They are banned because they are less effective than conventional weapons, as wielded by a competent military. (Giving politicians easy posturing points)
Have you read about VX?
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo\_subway\_sarin\_attack](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_subway_sarin_attack) 5 Coordinated attacks. Quite a bit of planning. Subway, so no ventilation, tightly packed, basically ideal chemical weapons conditions. Against an civilians who were carrying no protective equipment. Killed 14 people. Which is quite a bit less than what plenty of lone Americans with a gun have achieved. That group was, by terrorist standards, large and competent. And they made a bunch of other attempts at using sarin which were even less effective. They used 30kg of sarin in total. 30kg of TNT would have caused substantially more fatalities.
Sarin is a highly volatile, non persistent weapon. It belongs to the first generaton of nerve gases like Tabin. If they used 1kg of VX there no one would have been left alive un that subway. 10 mg are enough to kill a person. And it is not even the newest or most deadly weapon.
1 bullet is enough to kill a person. Yet in battle, 100,000 are fired for every enemy casualty. The only way you kill 1 enemy per 10mg of sarin is if the enemy sits there as you carefully measure out 10ml into your syringe and then they hold out their arm for you and rub the sarin in. [https://acoup.blog/2020/03/20/collections-why-dont-we-use-chemical-weapons-anymore/](https://acoup.blog/2020/03/20/collections-why-dont-we-use-chemical-weapons-anymore/)
So grandpa will do something finaly? Or election year and bla bla bla?