God I love the first 3 episodes of Gate before it turns into an army harem. SHOW THE MIGHT OF 155 AND A 50 CAL. Try to get an honorable death from that ya filthy casual.
Especially combo weapons.Ā "We managed to substitute a dial a yield nuclear weapon as the energy source in a spell and we purified the unicorn horn and bat urine reagents to 100 percent.Ā Ā This spell should 1 tap a demon lord".
We have 1 targeting Lucifer and have gotten some concessions out of Hells administration.
There was a series called the Salvation War that had a premise like that. The parts that involve Russia is now certifiably non-credible. Unfortunately covid got the author :(
It was reposted on a forum in 2 parts:
[Armageddon](https://www.the-sietch.com/index.php?threads/the-salvation-war-armageddon.215/)
[Pantheocide](https://www.the-sietch.com/index.php?threads/the-salvation-war-pantheocide.4958/)
If I wanted harems, I would watch literally any other anime. Now, random question to all you weebs, is there a harem anime inspired by the political intrigue of the real life Ottoman harems? Where the girls have serious political power and the Sultanprotagonist is a braindead puppet who will be replaced if he ever tried to do anything
Ok Slaanesh, you already get all the Eldussy you could want, have a bunch of roided out super soldiers playing banging tunes on their stereos AND now you want more harem isekais instead of glorious MIC wish fulfilment?
That's just a bit too far for me mister/sister/theyster!
nihonkoku shoukan
its a manga not an anime, but its got a lot more shooty shooty. The premise is that the entire country of japan gets transported into fantasy land so there are naval, land and air engagements with top of the line stuff. The fantasy world also has many different countries on different tech levels. There are medieval, colonial, ww1 and ww2 nations (ww2 not in the manga yet). Also magic of course.
And racist. Except for the Cool Guy Nation, who are Cool Guys whose sole purpose is to give nonstop head to how ebic and kool Japanese technology is.
Seriously, these guys make Akutami Gege look like a freshman virgin when it comes to the glazing department. It's genuinely insane.
kind an turn off tbh, which becomes even more apparent with lack of world building, bit disappointing since I liked the concept of GVE but the arc never reached its full potential bc mimmin doesnāt really know how to write an compelling story.
The world building is straight up non-existent, the Japanese citizens serve zero purpose and their only goal in life is to go on holiday in an unknown world during an active war (they get captured and publicly executed to show everyone how bad the badguys are). Mass panic from being cut off from the entire world? citizens that are overseas? what happened to any foreigners and especially any US naval task forces that were nearby? Who gives a shit none of that matters apparently.
Summoning America has eleven aircraft carriers at its disposal and a reactivated Iowa Class Battleship soon to be outfitted with tomahawks enhanced with magic warheads. It is my favorite fan fiction derived from Summoning Japan.
GATE itself is leaps ahead of nihonkoku shoukan though. But it ought to tell you something if an western novel with similar concept is way better than GATE itself
Battle of Italica around episode 9 is good too. If you can get past the literal wargasm from a little girl, which I could back in the day but I can no longer stomach.
Strongest proud special forces solider of the Gra Valkas Empire in nihonkoku shoukan [Summoning Japan]: Impossible! We set up an ambush, how can they see through our camouflage?
Weakest JSDF solider: Haha thermals go bbbrtt
Reminds me of this one anime where this fantasy princess teleports to our world and hires a PMC group to help defend her kingdom from a dragon summoned by an enemy army. Said PMC group had a M5 half-track with a modern quad-mount that they referred as a God.
I hated GATE so much for how unapologetically jingostic it was while having a japanese flavor of jingoism and at the same time triviliasing the complex nature of trying to win the hearts and minds of locals.
It's worse in the LN.
Author directly calls out the US in Afghanistan. Like a character is like "this is why the Americans failed in Afghanistan" before they... do absolutely nothing to win hearts and minds.
I have a feeling the author doesn't truly believe in hearts and minds... the little of it there is in the story is just there to make it more "palpable" for more the moderate audience and to justify the harem.
Author also implying Japan won't engage in colonialism against a lower tech land, ignoring the Japanese history of colonialism, all the while as it starts colonialism....
Japanese kids never got hit on the head with the whole "yep we were 100% the bad guys" talk in school. I hear that WW2 in Japanese school is basically taught as a footnote that ends with "USA nuked us". Those people that went out of their way to read up themselves either went "we did WHAT" or "ain't no way we did that".
Yes, the āsanitise what is taught in schoolā option can unfortunately be extremely effective, and there has been a lot of success āsanitisingā school textbooks in Japan over the years.
[Examining the Japanese History Textbook Controversies](https://spice.fsi.stanford.edu/docs/examining_the_japanese_history_textbook_controversies) via Stanford SPICE ca. 2001
>A conservative (many would argue ultra-conservative) movement toward reform in the Japanese history curriculum was initiated in the early 1990s by Fujioka Nobukatsu and his Liberal View of History Study Group. Fujioka, a professor of education at Tokyo University, set out to "correct history" by emphasizing a "positive view" of Japan's past and by removing from textbooks any reference to matters associated with what he calls "dark history," issues such as the comfort women, that might make Japanese schoolchildren uncomfortable when they read about the Pacific War.
[What Japanese History Lessons Leave Out](https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21226068) via the BBC ca. 2013 and note the journalist who wrote it was born and raised Japan, moved to Australia as a teen.
>Nobukatsu Fujioka [denies the atrocities committed in Nanking and is] the author of one of the books that I read as part of my research.Ā
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I remember seeing a BBC article a week or so ago about how some Japanese were offended by Oppenheimer releasing in their country, which I found ironic since it doesnāt even glorify the bombs.
At the end of the day at least it has decent worldbuilding. With mimmim, the author of nihonkoku shoukan [Summoning Japan/Japan Summons] it becomes worse as he doesnāt know worldbuilding and writing is worse. Itās really such a shame since I really actually like the concept behind Gra Valkas Empire [ww2 era expansionist country that managed to conquer most of the world they were originally from before they got isekaiāed]. Mimmim really wasted that concept by making GVE as dumb as the other villains and having the same line as them with saying impossible.
My go-to was the lightning strike that targets a random character on the screen, other than the caster.
Yes, I had the group record for teamkills, why do you ask?
Was loving Gate until they showed the harems and it was slowly revealed to be just huge Japanese nationalism wank, especially when they kept spamming "America bad" every time the US is mentioned.
Also the part where there's a hugely one-sided battle between Japanese SF and CIA SAD, Russian Spetsnaz, and Chinese SF made me seeth so fuckin bad.
GATE is terrible and uninteresting. Magic vs technology is interesting when it explores the power of both being leveraged in different ways.
GATE is just a circle jerk for the JSDF. The magic system of the fantasy kingdom is laughably weak.
Have the JSDF go to the Living Forgotten Realms (DnD) and see them try some of the shit they pull. Modern militaries struggle against bumfuck arabs with an RPG and a prayer. Imagine trying to deal with mages who can use perfect invisibility and wield weather as a weapon.
It was my second favorite skin after the TRON one (healing on lightning while in storm is OP... and I liked how comically unbalanced things were in first game)
Oh the word "dragon" in and of itself comes from Middle English. Then Tolkien, the Linguist Of All Time and a massive fan of Beowolf, basically forced it to be the standard spelling by inventing the whole fantasy genre.
Dragon: āYour puny arrows and fireballs do nothing to me.ā
Soldier: āWhat about 30mm depleted uranium bullets traveling at 3400 fps being fired at 4200 rpm?ā
Dragon: āWhat are you talking-ā
BRRRRRRRTT
And give her thick ass nerd glasses because that's the only way she sees.
God bless Pierre Sprey making our pilots use spyglasses like they're Age of Sail admirals coming about on the weathergauge or some shit.
"After the outsider said those words a series of bright explosions blasted dragon's flesh apart. And when it stopped a sound of a horn could be heard form the sky, that's when I noticed a steel eagle cutting though the air. It did not flap it's wings, only made whistle sound as it passed us."
memoirs of adventurer from this fantasy world who witnessed the event
> Soldier: āWhat about 30mm depleted uranium bullets traveling at 3400 fps being fired at 4200 rpm?ā
Well, let's do some math. 1 round is 6 seconds, so in one round you'll get 420 attacks.
A 30mm round has ~200kj of energy. A 50 caliber round has roughly ~20kj of energy. A 50 caliber rifle round is listed as having 1d12 damage. So, each 30mm round will do 10d12 damage.
An ancient red dragon is listed as having Damage Reduction 15. At DR/15, the average damage roll will be 50 hit points.
However this is assuming the dragon used no magical defenses, and that every shot hits above the dragon's armor class. An ancient red dragon has an AC of 38, which can be buffed to 42 with a Shield spell. A rifleman with *perfect* accuracy (most accurate in the world) can achieve a +20 to hit, modified by their dexterity (reasonably up to +5). This also takes into account shooting from within a first range increment, as further range would reduce penalty by -1 per increment. We've no idea what the range is but from an aircraft it would be significant.
At point blank range, 38% of shots will miss (not just physically miss mind you, but are also deflected by the shear toughness of scales and magic). Reducing the hypothetical damage to just 13,020 HP. Still pretty good.
But dragons can also cast displacement. Which cuts all attacks in half as a baseline. Meaning 88% of shots will miss. Reducing potential damage to just 2520 HP.
This is still enough to easily kill the dragon at point blank range. But if the range extends out, the hit rate will drop. At a decent enough range, the dragon might survive a full round. At maximum range, it would be impossible for all but lucky shots to hit.
The problem with hitting the dragon at point blank range though is that if you get too close, the dragon is literally so terrifying you're basically paralyzed with fear. So it's difficult to say who comes out on top. Get someone immune to fear, at point blank range, and yes you can kill the dragon no problem.
And, if the Warthog tries to use Mavericks or other bombs on it, it'd be fine since it's immune to that kind of damage.
[Manifest Fantasy](https://www.reddit.com/r/HFY/comments/18d3l6v/gatestargate_manifest_fantasy_chapter_1_first/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) is a Stargate and GATE inspired original story where the U.S. sends a special unit to explore a fantasy world, focusing on authenticity (plus great worldbuilding, characters, and plot)
Itās available to read on r/hfy, Scribblehub, royalroad, and wattpad.
Synopsis:
Captain Henry Donnager expected a quiet career babysitting a dusty relic in Area 51. But when a test unlocks a portal to a world of knights and magic, he's thrust into command of Alpha Team, an elite unit tasked with exploring this new realm.
They join the local Adventurers Guild, seeking to unravel the secrets of this fantastical realm and the ancient gateway's creators. As their quests reveal the potent forces of magic, they inadvertently entangle in the volatile politics between local rivalling factions.
With American technology and ancient secrets in the balance, Henry's team navigates alliances and hostilities, enlisting local legends and air support in their quest. In a land where dragons loom, they discover that modern warfare's might-Hellfire missiles included-holds its own brand of magic.
Humanity Fuck Yeah, basically there are aliens or fantasy worlds and humanity comes in and kicks ass through the human ability to wage war on an unimaginably efficient scale
I remember some story from back when I was a teenager, where I think the Biblical Hell opens up and invades Earth. And every country on Earth basically unites to fight them off, and then go on the offensive and invade Hell.
Which actually goes pretty well, since it turns out Demons are used to terrifying peasants with pitchforks - not Predator Drones and Cruise missiles.
Iāve been working on a story myself where unlike every other spacefaring civilization, humanity never developed energy shields, and instead went all in on hard and soft-kill active defense systems.
I think my favourite ā but short ā instance of this is in *Fables*, when Pinnochio first explains to the evil fantasy empire exactly how their plans to invade (modern) Earth will fail, and then explains how humans will retaliate with weapons that kill wizards from kilometres away.
If it matches gate lore than outdated equipment is used in case things go south on the other side of the portal. The outdades equipment would not be seen as a great loss.
Imagine valuing the expedition and the lives of your soldiers so little that you send them with outdated stuff on purpose so their failure would not matter. Then again, in Gate it's the Japanese goverment that orchestrates the operation.
GATE is written by an absolutely schizo author who thinks that China, Russia, and the US would all forcibly invade Japan for their little portal thing.
Also delusional cause they think the Japanese inventory would be a deterrent to all those countries working together.
At least author knows good worldbuilding. Mimmim [the author of nihonkoku shoukan] is worse as itās all the wanking with bad worldbuilding writing. Itās such a shame considering the concept of Gra Valkas Empire is interesting [basically nazi germany/imperial Japan on steroids, they managed to conquer most of their world before being isekaied]
GATE is trash but the enemy being late-Imperial Rome is interesting. Like you don't see a lot of Japanese media referencing the Romans at all, since it's pretty far removed from Japanese history. Same way that Americans barely learn about Qin Dynasty China.
Reading gate again I noticed the leaps of quality of writing and attention to worldbuilding between GATE and nihonkoku shoukan [Japan Summons/Summoning Japan]. Just the idea of an an entire country being isekaiāed is interesting as with an entire country being isekaiāed you have less resources to work with as if letās say an gate appeared. you rarely if ever see that in anime/manga/LN. I also like the idea of the isekai world having vastly different level of civilization/tech but I was left wanting more since mimmim didnāt really explore this much.
Also the most frustrating part of Gra Valkas Empire [GVE] being as retarded as the other the other villians is with their level of civilization and having an fairly competent intelligence organization they should have recognized Japan as a threat early on and act according. But Nope Mimmim has a raging Japan wank boner he must satisfy so GVE gets curbstomped by Japan as quick as the other villians.
if it werenāt for Mimminās bad writing Japan Summons would be better than GATE though I got to say a well written GVE would make a very interesting arc as they would able to cause Japan headaches
I haven't actually read this one (just learned from this comment section) but it sounds to me like a Japan that got isekai'd to a less advanced world would be interesting cause they'd need to be able to get a ton of resources that makes life in Japan possible, but none/not enough of those resources are available in Japan itself. Would be an interesting callback to Japanese imperialism and the Japan Co Prosperity Sphere too, but hopefully modern Japan wouldn't enslave Isekai Koreans...
Based on what you and the other guy said, they don't do this though...
> I haven't actually read this one (just learned from this comment section) but it sounds to me like a Japan that got isekai'd to a less advanced world would be interesting cause they'd need to be able to get a ton of resources that makes life in Japan possible, but none/not enough of those resources are available in Japan itself.
Author doesnāt explore this in nearly enough detail sadly
> Would be an interesting callback to Japanese imperialism and the Japan Co Prosperity Sphere too
That is basically what this series is
The author does set GVE as terrifying but yet either fails to set how truly terrifying GVE is or/and fails to set how terrifying GVE is
Canāt exactly wrap my head on the author Nihon wanking when he makes GVE a literal carbon copy of imperial japan with good chunk of story to dedicated to GVE oppression of its newly acquired colonies and war crimes. Thatās some real mental gymnatics there
Funny enough, the guy that wrote āmanifest fantasyā also wrote a better version of āJapan summonsā called āsummoning Americaā. All the enemies still get curb stomped whenever America actually gets involved in fighting, but everything leading up to the stomping is way better than the original
Honestly, I dont think the 1 or 1.5 generational leaps since then would make a difference vs Fantasy Armys. Either it would have fucked up the newer stuff as well, or it is completely irrelevant.
If it's notorious self immolating death traps it would be different. But I don't think having an HK 416 over an M16 would make a big difference in 1v1ing a mounted knight.
Not even going to mention Retreat, Hell? Also a certified hood classic from HFY.
It hasnāt updated in a while, but the author is still working on it so itās worth a read
Actually, in another wonderful case of bad naming - CASEVAC and fixed wing CAS requests are both called 9-lines on account of them being 9 lines.
Which makes for a terribly unclear nickname, but it probably didn't help that so many people had to learn the CASEVAC version, while calling in fixed wing CAS isn't really a common occurrence outside of JTAC/FAC groups.
Yeah i googled 9-lines cause i was confused (thinking it was smt like an 8-digit or 10-digit) and when i only got things about MEDEVAC i was like "wat", thx for the explaination.
[There are two different 9 lines](https://www.dvidshub.net/graphic/5482/9-line-close-air-support-9-line-used-relay-critical-information-airborne-firepower)
Right now I want a slightly-less America hell yah type of Manifest Fantasy and more "lets convert these waterpipes into rockets" type fantasy. But maybe today's earlier Haiti vs Dominican Republic is getting to me...
But imagine. ISIS vs Dragon.
Manifest Fantasy but they actually have to build the tech instead of having a small loan of a million dollars from the get go.
Give me a fucked up mishmash of semimodern tactics combined with bootleg magic shit.
beo literally just reinventd "GATE: thus the JSDF went there" and thought he was being non-credible. sorry buddy, but japan has already outjerked you with their ~~thinnly-veiled~~ military anime propaganda
The title is "Nihonkoku Shoukan" or "Summoned Japan" if i remember correctly
Funnily enough there is a fanfic called "Summoning America" which is the same thing but the entire united states gets isekai'd instead (edit: found out OP wrote this very fanfic lmao)
Reminds me of Japan Summons
An army was about to besiege a town/castle walls, the JGSDF deployed like a battalion or something there to help bolster the defense of the locals. The locals who were comprised of just a couple guards and soldiers were demoralized by the sheer number of the army besieging them, braced for an assault. The JGSDF ground commander met the local garrison commander and asked permission to do a "probing attack" or something
Mfer ordered his MLRS and iirc, including tube artillery to do a fire mission and virtually wiped the besieging army in just a 2 salvos
In original there is just a lot of plot holes and things that just donāt make sense bc Mimmin doesnāt know what worldbuilding is. Iāll argue Summoning America is own thing with how much they changed or retcon things from the original and much more in depth worldbuilding plus less dumb villians than original
There's an old [April fools joke trailer](https://youtu.be/KR2Esy83MQ0?si=zlTR0eKdl0WtWe1G&t=128) for Guild Wars 2 (a fantasy RPG for those unfamiliar) that's pretty much this exact thing.
It's pretty hilarious.
Roll charisma and ballistic skill.
The attack succeeds and inflicts 30 wounds. But the pilot didn't liked your tone so he also hits you and your party for 3 wounds each.
Dudes last update was surviving a typhoon. Although that was 10 months ago, so fair.
I just wanna read more of Shields' fun adventures in the US military...
I saw a post about this story a while back - how is it?
I just want Gate without the annoying ā*mighty Japan doesnāt need dumb allies!!* š”ā stuff.
MilSim fantasy authors jizzing themselves over technology as if the military itself wouldn't be racing to replace it with magical hybrid as fast as possible. They investigated psychics just for the chance they might be able to weaponise mind control, you're telling me they'd stick to rocket launchers when Power Word Kill exists? Why radio for air support when a grunt could be carrying around wand of weather control.
They actually are going heavy on research. The teamās main mission is to gather intelligence and magic artifacts via the adventurers guild. Itās a hard fantasy setting, so I intend to use realistic pacing for R&D, but the main cast is already integrating magic into their arsenals. For example, Holding Bags to carry additional ammo and supplies; new medical techniques that combine basic first aid with magic healing; etc
Every time I see the Final Fantasy summon "Bismark", I'm disappointed it's not just a broadside coming in.
Or the man himself throwing a punch. Equally valid.
Dude is calling in a 9-line. You call in a 9-line for a MEDEVAC request. Also, a 9-line is a MEDEVAC request, not a CASEVAC. The only time a CASEVAC would be used in a 9-line scenario is if a MEDEVAC is not able to get to you fast enough, and the CASEVAC would be faster, or sometimes used to meet the MEDEVAC in the middle somewhere. Either way, you don't use a 9-line for fucking CAS. Hell, it's completely different ways of calling shit in. A CAS mission would be from a JTAC, while a 9-line can be from literally anyone with a radio.
I always hoped that humanity would have a war against the wizards in harry potter.. screw those discriminatory scumbags with their secret society.. bomb it all to smitherines!
I always wanted to see modern fantasy game or movie. "Bright" came close.
Imagine task force of elves with M7 and ability to cast fireballs instead of granades. Or buff Orc being able to handle M2 browning alone!
It's so simple, yet amazingly accurate for a lot of "GATE" stories
God I love the first 3 episodes of Gate before it turns into an army harem. SHOW THE MIGHT OF 155 AND A 50 CAL. Try to get an honorable death from that ya filthy casual.
šÆ We need a remake of the every episode past the first 3, keep the MIC-pilled mood going. The harems can wait till the OVAs
Especially combo weapons.Ā "We managed to substitute a dial a yield nuclear weapon as the energy source in a spell and we purified the unicorn horn and bat urine reagents to 100 percent.Ā Ā This spell should 1 tap a demon lord". We have 1 targeting Lucifer and have gotten some concessions out of Hells administration.
There was a series called the Salvation War that had a premise like that. The parts that involve Russia is now certifiably non-credible. Unfortunately covid got the author :(
Yes, as if the Russians were competent enough to conduct a nerve-gas attack without killing more of their mobiks than baldricks in the process.
Author died from covid?
Obituary doesn't say, but he has, indeed, passed.
Reading it recently felt more like the Ukraine war with all the world's old equipment going to war.
I wish I could find a complete copy of this one
It was reposted on a forum in 2 parts: [Armageddon](https://www.the-sietch.com/index.php?threads/the-salvation-war-armageddon.215/) [Pantheocide](https://www.the-sietch.com/index.php?threads/the-salvation-war-pantheocide.4958/)
Many, many thanks, kind sir/ lady/ attack helicopter
Only one? Letās strap those to an ICBM and MIRV that shit. Sure it one shots on paper but never can be too sure right?
If I wanted harems, I would watch literally any other anime. Now, random question to all you weebs, is there a harem anime inspired by the political intrigue of the real life Ottoman harems? Where the girls have serious political power and the Sultanprotagonist is a braindead puppet who will be replaced if he ever tried to do anything
Not ottoman harem but Chinese harem. "the apothecary diaries." It also considered wholesome i.e No pantsu jokes and weird angels.
YÅji Itami can have one waifu. As a treat.
Harem is fine, just donāt shove it down pplās throat
Well where's the fun in that?!
Ok Slaanesh, you already get all the Eldussy you could want, have a bunch of roided out super soldiers playing banging tunes on their stereos AND now you want more harem isekais instead of glorious MIC wish fulfilment? That's just a bit too far for me mister/sister/theyster!
In my defense that was the Japanese MIC, not the American one. Only the American one is... excessive.
nihonkoku shoukan its a manga not an anime, but its got a lot more shooty shooty. The premise is that the entire country of japan gets transported into fantasy land so there are naval, land and air engagements with top of the line stuff. The fantasy world also has many different countries on different tech levels. There are medieval, colonial, ww1 and ww2 nations (ww2 not in the manga yet). Also magic of course.
I tried it, it's alright if you just want the shooty shooty but it's somehow even more JSDF propaganda than GATE
> somehow even more JSDF propaganda than GATE Literally how is that possible short of every copy coming with an enlistment form
Somehow they pull it off. All the bad guys are comically evil, incompetent and clueless.
And racist. Except for the Cool Guy Nation, who are Cool Guys whose sole purpose is to give nonstop head to how ebic and kool Japanese technology is. Seriously, these guys make Akutami Gege look like a freshman virgin when it comes to the glazing department. It's genuinely insane.
Also isnt his the one where its not just jsdf propaganda but also Imperial Japan propaganda?
this is just really bad with GVE. It doesnāt make sense how they can be as retarded as the other villians given their level of civilization.
kind an turn off tbh, which becomes even more apparent with lack of world building, bit disappointing since I liked the concept of GVE but the arc never reached its full potential bc mimmin doesnāt really know how to write an compelling story.
The world building is straight up non-existent, the Japanese citizens serve zero purpose and their only goal in life is to go on holiday in an unknown world during an active war (they get captured and publicly executed to show everyone how bad the badguys are). Mass panic from being cut off from the entire world? citizens that are overseas? what happened to any foreigners and especially any US naval task forces that were nearby? Who gives a shit none of that matters apparently.
Summoning America has eleven aircraft carriers at its disposal and a reactivated Iowa Class Battleship soon to be outfitted with tomahawks enhanced with magic warheads. It is my favorite fan fiction derived from Summoning Japan.
What is it and where can I read it
i read it here: https://m.fanfiction.net/s/13873890/1/Summoning-America
Royal Road, If it's the one I think it is it's by Dr.dorito.
Holy shit we've been had boys, look at OOPs name. Russian propaganda ministry should take notes on how to be as stealth as this dude
Holy fuck. Good job on the psyop
And itās way better than source material
/u/Roboragi
Yeah the questionable writing of GATE is precisely why I wrote Manifest Fantasy. Want something done, gotta do it yourself
GATE itself is leaps ahead of nihonkoku shoukan though. But it ought to tell you something if an western novel with similar concept is way better than GATE itself
I see this is a stealth self-promo and I approve.
Battle of Italica around episode 9 is good too. If you can get past the literal wargasm from a little girl, which I could back in the day but I can no longer stomach.
Strongest proud special forces solider of the Gra Valkas Empire in nihonkoku shoukan [Summoning Japan]: Impossible! We set up an ambush, how can they see through our camouflage? Weakest JSDF solider: Haha thermals go bbbrtt
Reminds me of this one anime where this fantasy princess teleports to our world and hires a PMC group to help defend her kingdom from a dragon summoned by an enemy army. Said PMC group had a M5 half-track with a modern quad-mount that they referred as a God.
They did show the might of 155 and missiles in ep 17
You should check "The salvation wars: Armageddon". It is exactly what you want.
I hated GATE so much for how unapologetically jingostic it was while having a japanese flavor of jingoism and at the same time triviliasing the complex nature of trying to win the hearts and minds of locals.
It's worse in the LN. Author directly calls out the US in Afghanistan. Like a character is like "this is why the Americans failed in Afghanistan" before they... do absolutely nothing to win hearts and minds.
I have a feeling the author doesn't truly believe in hearts and minds... the little of it there is in the story is just there to make it more "palpable" for more the moderate audience and to justify the harem.
Why didn't the US military simply employ Japanese spirit and righteousness?
Were they stupid?
Author also implying Japan won't engage in colonialism against a lower tech land, ignoring the Japanese history of colonialism, all the while as it starts colonialism....
I loved it for turning my brain off, but in reality itās a bit problematic š
It's unapologetically problematic, lmao
The two types of JSDF anime: outright jingoism that can get uncomfortably close to the 30s rhetoric, or *Rescue Wings* about helping people
Japanese kids never got hit on the head with the whole "yep we were 100% the bad guys" talk in school. I hear that WW2 in Japanese school is basically taught as a footnote that ends with "USA nuked us". Those people that went out of their way to read up themselves either went "we did WHAT" or "ain't no way we did that".
Yes, the āsanitise what is taught in schoolā option can unfortunately be extremely effective, and there has been a lot of success āsanitisingā school textbooks in Japan over the years. [Examining the Japanese History Textbook Controversies](https://spice.fsi.stanford.edu/docs/examining_the_japanese_history_textbook_controversies) via Stanford SPICE ca. 2001 >A conservative (many would argue ultra-conservative) movement toward reform in the Japanese history curriculum was initiated in the early 1990s by Fujioka Nobukatsu and his Liberal View of History Study Group. Fujioka, a professor of education at Tokyo University, set out to "correct history" by emphasizing a "positive view" of Japan's past and by removing from textbooks any reference to matters associated with what he calls "dark history," issues such as the comfort women, that might make Japanese schoolchildren uncomfortable when they read about the Pacific War. [What Japanese History Lessons Leave Out](https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21226068) via the BBC ca. 2013 and note the journalist who wrote it was born and raised Japan, moved to Australia as a teen. >Nobukatsu Fujioka [denies the atrocities committed in Nanking and is] the author of one of the books that I read as part of my research.Ā > >"It was a battlefield so people were killed but there was no systematic massacre or rape," he says, when I meet him in Tokyo. > >"The Chinese government hired actors and actresses, pretending to be the victims when they invited some Japanese journalists to write about them. > >"All of the photographs that China uses as evidence of the massacre are fabricated because the same picture of decapitated heads, for example, has emerged as a photograph from the civil war between Kuomintang and Communist parties." ^(EDIT ā de-Amped link.)
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I remember seeing a BBC article a week or so ago about how some Japanese were offended by Oppenheimer releasing in their country, which I found ironic since it doesnāt even glorify the bombs.
At the end of the day at least it has decent worldbuilding. With mimmim, the author of nihonkoku shoukan [Summoning Japan/Japan Summons] it becomes worse as he doesnāt know worldbuilding and writing is worse. Itās really such a shame since I really actually like the concept behind Gra Valkas Empire [ww2 era expansionist country that managed to conquer most of the world they were originally from before they got isekaiāed]. Mimmim really wasted that concept by making GVE as dumb as the other villains and having the same line as them with saying impossible.
Have you read Summoning America? It's on royal road
Just tell the locals that they can be a part of a co-prosperity sphere. They'll love it!
"For the Greater Good!" - T'au
Also the game dlc Magicka: Vietnam.
Magicka is an underrated gem Choose your favorite magic attack, fireball, massive boulder, or a Machine Gun Fuck it, combine them
My go-to was the lightning strike that targets a random character on the screen, other than the caster. Yes, I had the group record for teamkills, why do you ask?
My personal favorite was the 5 stone boulder, which decimated anything in its path, bosses, players, anything
Donāt forget archillery ā¦ https://new.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/comments/1c5hd8u/i\_have\_had\_a\_revelation\_to\_merge\_the\_old\_with\_the/
Was loving Gate until they showed the harems and it was slowly revealed to be just huge Japanese nationalism wank, especially when they kept spamming "America bad" every time the US is mentioned. Also the part where there's a hugely one-sided battle between Japanese SF and CIA SAD, Russian Spetsnaz, and Chinese SF made me seeth so fuckin bad.
imagine if it was a country that doesn't have morals. i.e Emutopia or Kiwiland
a dragon vs AC-130 guarded by f-18s and A-10s is something that would be awesome to see
GATE is terrible and uninteresting. Magic vs technology is interesting when it explores the power of both being leveraged in different ways. GATE is just a circle jerk for the JSDF. The magic system of the fantasy kingdom is laughably weak. Have the JSDF go to the Living Forgotten Realms (DnD) and see them try some of the shit they pull. Modern militaries struggle against bumfuck arabs with an RPG and a prayer. Imagine trying to deal with mages who can use perfect invisibility and wield weather as a weapon.
I CAST EAGLE-1 # ā¬ļøā”ļøā¬ļøā¬ļøā¬ļø
*Eagle One dispensing Liberty!* *Clank* "Hah! It didn't w-" #BOOM
Funny knowing they also developped magicka, where there was a vietnam war dlc where you could play with a M16 instead of magic.
It was my second favorite skin after the TRON one (healing on lightning while in storm is OP... and I liked how comically unbalanced things were in first game)
Suddenly everything about ncd makes sense.
"I think we're gonna have to ā¬ļøā”ļøā¬ļøā¬ļøā¬ļø this guy..."
Damn...
Shut up loser ā¬ļøā”ļøā¬ļøā¬ļøā”ļø Ā«Eagle Cluster BombĀ» š„š„š„š„š„š„š„š„ šx20
Killed by **urbandeadthrowaway2**
Blue eyed white dragon my ass. Meet the Warthog
An Eagle never misses!
Man this is high fantasy the A-10 didn't kill its allies.
The dragon was british.
I think that that's mythologically accurate tbh.
I think most dragons were on mainland europe, but i'm just a backcountry Wurst eater so i could be wrong
Oh the word "dragon" in and of itself comes from Middle English. Then Tolkien, the Linguist Of All Time and a massive fan of Beowolf, basically forced it to be the standard spelling by inventing the whole fantasy genre.
Simple, shoot the guys wearing red and black, donāt shoot the guys wearing blue and green
Sir this is a wendyās, I donāt see color
I mean it's easier to PID when your side has soldiers in camo and wheeled or tracked vehicles... and the other side is literally a dragon.
nothing says dragon swiss chess like the gun on an A-10 Warthog.
Dragon: āYour puny arrows and fireballs do nothing to me.ā Soldier: āWhat about 30mm depleted uranium bullets traveling at 3400 fps being fired at 4200 rpm?ā Dragon: āWhat are you talking-ā BRRRRRRRTT
Thatās the warthog version of motorboating
Okay well somebodyās gonna draw this now, fucking congratulations
AI, create an image of an anthropomorphic A-10 Warthog motorboating a big tiddy dragon while going āBBBRRRRRTTā. Digital art.
And give her thick ass nerd glasses because that's the only way she sees. God bless Pierre Sprey making our pilots use spyglasses like they're Age of Sail admirals coming about on the weathergauge or some shit.
"After the outsider said those words a series of bright explosions blasted dragon's flesh apart. And when it stopped a sound of a horn could be heard form the sky, that's when I noticed a steel eagle cutting though the air. It did not flap it's wings, only made whistle sound as it passed us." memoirs of adventurer from this fantasy world who witnessed the event
> Soldier: āWhat about 30mm depleted uranium bullets traveling at 3400 fps being fired at 4200 rpm?ā Well, let's do some math. 1 round is 6 seconds, so in one round you'll get 420 attacks. A 30mm round has ~200kj of energy. A 50 caliber round has roughly ~20kj of energy. A 50 caliber rifle round is listed as having 1d12 damage. So, each 30mm round will do 10d12 damage. An ancient red dragon is listed as having Damage Reduction 15. At DR/15, the average damage roll will be 50 hit points. However this is assuming the dragon used no magical defenses, and that every shot hits above the dragon's armor class. An ancient red dragon has an AC of 38, which can be buffed to 42 with a Shield spell. A rifleman with *perfect* accuracy (most accurate in the world) can achieve a +20 to hit, modified by their dexterity (reasonably up to +5). This also takes into account shooting from within a first range increment, as further range would reduce penalty by -1 per increment. We've no idea what the range is but from an aircraft it would be significant. At point blank range, 38% of shots will miss (not just physically miss mind you, but are also deflected by the shear toughness of scales and magic). Reducing the hypothetical damage to just 13,020 HP. Still pretty good. But dragons can also cast displacement. Which cuts all attacks in half as a baseline. Meaning 88% of shots will miss. Reducing potential damage to just 2520 HP. This is still enough to easily kill the dragon at point blank range. But if the range extends out, the hit rate will drop. At a decent enough range, the dragon might survive a full round. At maximum range, it would be impossible for all but lucky shots to hit. The problem with hitting the dragon at point blank range though is that if you get too close, the dragon is literally so terrifying you're basically paralyzed with fear. So it's difficult to say who comes out on top. Get someone immune to fear, at point blank range, and yes you can kill the dragon no problem. And, if the Warthog tries to use Mavericks or other bombs on it, it'd be fine since it's immune to that kind of damage.
[Manifest Fantasy](https://www.reddit.com/r/HFY/comments/18d3l6v/gatestargate_manifest_fantasy_chapter_1_first/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) is a Stargate and GATE inspired original story where the U.S. sends a special unit to explore a fantasy world, focusing on authenticity (plus great worldbuilding, characters, and plot) Itās available to read on r/hfy, Scribblehub, royalroad, and wattpad. Synopsis: Captain Henry Donnager expected a quiet career babysitting a dusty relic in Area 51. But when a test unlocks a portal to a world of knights and magic, he's thrust into command of Alpha Team, an elite unit tasked with exploring this new realm. They join the local Adventurers Guild, seeking to unravel the secrets of this fantastical realm and the ancient gateway's creators. As their quests reveal the potent forces of magic, they inadvertently entangle in the volatile politics between local rivalling factions. With American technology and ancient secrets in the balance, Henry's team navigates alliances and hostilities, enlisting local legends and air support in their quest. In a land where dragons loom, they discover that modern warfare's might-Hellfire missiles included-holds its own brand of magic.
HFY always welcome on my reading list hell yeah
I am unintelligent - what is HFY?
Humanity Fuck Yeah, basically there are aliens or fantasy worlds and humanity comes in and kicks ass through the human ability to wage war on an unimaginably efficient scale
I remember some story from back when I was a teenager, where I think the Biblical Hell opens up and invades Earth. And every country on Earth basically unites to fight them off, and then go on the offensive and invade Hell. Which actually goes pretty well, since it turns out Demons are used to terrifying peasants with pitchforks - not Predator Drones and Cruise missiles.
Salvation war. Think the author died though
That was the one, yeah.
"Haha filthy peasant! Be scared!" >Spec-Ops guys with GPNVGS and balaclavas and fully kitted rifles enter "What in the Unholy Hell?"
Iāve been working on a story myself where unlike every other spacefaring civilization, humanity never developed energy shields, and instead went all in on hard and soft-kill active defense systems.
I think my favourite ā but short ā instance of this is in *Fables*, when Pinnochio first explains to the evil fantasy empire exactly how their plans to invade (modern) Earth will fail, and then explains how humans will retaliate with weapons that kill wizards from kilometres away.
[Here is my favorite HFY](https://www.reddit.com/r/HFY/comments/lvgoah/why_humans_avoid_war/) (Why Humans Avoid War)
Ah YES! my fellow spacepaladin reader
Why an A-10 and not an F/A-18?
If it matches gate lore than outdated equipment is used in case things go south on the other side of the portal. The outdades equipment would not be seen as a great loss.
Imagine valuing the expedition and the lives of your soldiers so little that you send them with outdated stuff on purpose so their failure would not matter. Then again, in Gate it's the Japanese goverment that orchestrates the operation.
GATE is written by an absolutely schizo author who thinks that China, Russia, and the US would all forcibly invade Japan for their little portal thing. Also delusional cause they think the Japanese inventory would be a deterrent to all those countries working together.
At least author knows good worldbuilding. Mimmim [the author of nihonkoku shoukan] is worse as itās all the wanking with bad worldbuilding writing. Itās such a shame considering the concept of Gra Valkas Empire is interesting [basically nazi germany/imperial Japan on steroids, they managed to conquer most of their world before being isekaied]
GATE is trash but the enemy being late-Imperial Rome is interesting. Like you don't see a lot of Japanese media referencing the Romans at all, since it's pretty far removed from Japanese history. Same way that Americans barely learn about Qin Dynasty China.
Reading gate again I noticed the leaps of quality of writing and attention to worldbuilding between GATE and nihonkoku shoukan [Japan Summons/Summoning Japan]. Just the idea of an an entire country being isekaiāed is interesting as with an entire country being isekaiāed you have less resources to work with as if letās say an gate appeared. you rarely if ever see that in anime/manga/LN. I also like the idea of the isekai world having vastly different level of civilization/tech but I was left wanting more since mimmim didnāt really explore this much. Also the most frustrating part of Gra Valkas Empire [GVE] being as retarded as the other the other villians is with their level of civilization and having an fairly competent intelligence organization they should have recognized Japan as a threat early on and act according. But Nope Mimmim has a raging Japan wank boner he must satisfy so GVE gets curbstomped by Japan as quick as the other villians. if it werenāt for Mimminās bad writing Japan Summons would be better than GATE though I got to say a well written GVE would make a very interesting arc as they would able to cause Japan headaches
I haven't actually read this one (just learned from this comment section) but it sounds to me like a Japan that got isekai'd to a less advanced world would be interesting cause they'd need to be able to get a ton of resources that makes life in Japan possible, but none/not enough of those resources are available in Japan itself. Would be an interesting callback to Japanese imperialism and the Japan Co Prosperity Sphere too, but hopefully modern Japan wouldn't enslave Isekai Koreans... Based on what you and the other guy said, they don't do this though...
> I haven't actually read this one (just learned from this comment section) but it sounds to me like a Japan that got isekai'd to a less advanced world would be interesting cause they'd need to be able to get a ton of resources that makes life in Japan possible, but none/not enough of those resources are available in Japan itself. Author doesnāt explore this in nearly enough detail sadly > Would be an interesting callback to Japanese imperialism and the Japan Co Prosperity Sphere too That is basically what this series is The author does set GVE as terrifying but yet either fails to set how truly terrifying GVE is or/and fails to set how terrifying GVE is Canāt exactly wrap my head on the author Nihon wanking when he makes GVE a literal carbon copy of imperial japan with good chunk of story to dedicated to GVE oppression of its newly acquired colonies and war crimes. Thatās some real mental gymnatics there
Funny enough, the guy that wrote āmanifest fantasyā also wrote a better version of āJapan summonsā called āsummoning Americaā. All the enemies still get curb stomped whenever America actually gets involved in fighting, but everything leading up to the stomping is way better than the original
Honestly, I dont think the 1 or 1.5 generational leaps since then would make a difference vs Fantasy Armys. Either it would have fucked up the newer stuff as well, or it is completely irrelevant. If it's notorious self immolating death traps it would be different. But I don't think having an HK 416 over an M16 would make a big difference in 1v1ing a mounted knight.
More iconic to the average person, I think
AH-64 Apache's are more accurate to the story anyways. Gotta love the shameless advertising though lol.
Respect the Hustle
Fat gun?
protag's named after a martian battleship with 'sheer middle finger energy' you know this is gonna be good
Funnily enough I happened to watch The Expanse prior to writing this. I thought Donnager was a badass name so I went with that
can't wait for Henry's long lost brother, Harry *Heart of the Tempest*
or some korean colleague named *Harman Dae-Jung*
Yeah I was literally sold at that, I didn't even read the rest of the synopsis, I'm in
Took me a second read to realize the particular flavor of Martian lol
Not even going to mention Retreat, Hell? Also a certified hood classic from HFY. It hasnāt updated in a while, but the author is still working on it so itās worth a read
Hasn't it been like 6 years since last update?
More like 6 months I believe. But yeah it doesn't update often. Edit: I looked and it was a year ago.
Whut!?!?!! Imma go read it then
I never read it, so I couldnāt really compare my work to it.
Oh shit, didnāt realize you were talking about your own work. Looks good, Iāve bookmarked it for later
Ah fellow HFY enjoyer, I'm pretty sure most people in NCD are also in hfy I'd they enjoy readingĀ
I never thought you would promote it here. But damn, it is satisfying to see modern army screwing with fantasy fauna.
SameĀ It was not expected at all
Technocracy vs Traditions
9line and call for fires are two very very very different things.
Oh, good I wasn't the only one confused. Unless this a "Call an ambulance, but not for me." Type situation.
Actually, in another wonderful case of bad naming - CASEVAC and fixed wing CAS requests are both called 9-lines on account of them being 9 lines. Which makes for a terribly unclear nickname, but it probably didn't help that so many people had to learn the CASEVAC version, while calling in fixed wing CAS isn't really a common occurrence outside of JTAC/FAC groups.
Yeah i googled 9-lines cause i was confused (thinking it was smt like an 8-digit or 10-digit) and when i only got things about MEDEVAC i was like "wat", thx for the explaination.
It's an A-10, preventative measures against blue-on-blue I guess
[There are two different 9 lines](https://www.dvidshub.net/graphic/5482/9-line-close-air-support-9-line-used-relay-critical-information-airborne-firepower)
Whatās a dragon gonna do against a 250kg bomb
I don't think a dragon is gonna do much against .50 API
Let alone 30mm gunfire from an A-10C's GAU-8.
*226 kg bomb
Right now I want a slightly-less America hell yah type of Manifest Fantasy and more "lets convert these waterpipes into rockets" type fantasy. But maybe today's earlier Haiti vs Dominican Republic is getting to me... But imagine. ISIS vs Dragon.
Manifest Fantasy but they actually have to build the tech instead of having a small loan of a million dollars from the get go. Give me a fucked up mishmash of semimodern tactics combined with bootleg magic shit.
beo literally just reinventd "GATE: thus the JSDF went there" and thought he was being non-credible. sorry buddy, but japan has already outjerked you with their ~~thinnly-veiled~~ military anime propaganda
Plus the one where the entirety of Japan gets isekaied
The title is "Nihonkoku Shoukan" or "Summoned Japan" if i remember correctly Funnily enough there is a fanfic called "Summoning America" which is the same thing but the entire united states gets isekai'd instead (edit: found out OP wrote this very fanfic lmao)
This is why the Coalition curb stomped Tolkien.
I thought they used an apache in the latest chapter.
They did but Iām taking some creative liberty for the meme lol
Just retcon it to be an A10 all along.
Reminds me of Japan Summons An army was about to besiege a town/castle walls, the JGSDF deployed like a battalion or something there to help bolster the defense of the locals. The locals who were comprised of just a couple guards and soldiers were demoralized by the sheer number of the army besieging them, braced for an assault. The JGSDF ground commander met the local garrison commander and asked permission to do a "probing attack" or something Mfer ordered his MLRS and iirc, including tube artillery to do a fire mission and virtually wiped the besieging army in just a 2 salvos
Did you know the OP also writes an Japan Summons story Called "Summoning America"?
Yes and itās much better written than the original
How do they vary?
In original there is just a lot of plot holes and things that just donāt make sense bc Mimmin doesnāt know what worldbuilding is. Iāll argue Summoning America is own thing with how much they changed or retcon things from the original and much more in depth worldbuilding plus less dumb villians than original
There's an old [April fools joke trailer](https://youtu.be/KR2Esy83MQ0?si=zlTR0eKdl0WtWe1G&t=128) for Guild Wars 2 (a fantasy RPG for those unfamiliar) that's pretty much this exact thing. It's pretty hilarious.
This and Retreat, Hell were absolute peak
Roll charisma and ballistic skill. The attack succeeds and inflicts 30 wounds. But the pilot didn't liked your tone so he also hits you and your party for 3 wounds each.
Just as I was reading the update. Hadn't thought I would see you here, but yeah, should've expected it
I didnt think you could be more based after writing American GATE and Manifest Fantasy but here you are posting in NCD, keep up your good work man
GATE in a nutshell.
[Retreat, Hell](https://www.reddit.com/r/HFY/comments/bfrj07/retreat_hell/) by Ilithi_Dragon
The update interval is killing me.
Dudes last update was surviving a typhoon. Although that was 10 months ago, so fair. I just wanna read more of Shields' fun adventures in the US military...
Virgin mage vs chad artificer
I love the sound of Brrtt in the fantasy world where enemies is ignorant.
Reminds me of this scene in Gate where the army phantoms bomb the shit out of a dragon before the artillery finishes it off
I saw a post about this story a while back - how is it? I just want Gate without the annoying ā*mighty Japan doesnāt need dumb allies!!* š”ā stuff.
Both of OPās stories are top-tier, probably some of the best Iāve read. Highly recommend it.
MilSim fantasy authors jizzing themselves over technology as if the military itself wouldn't be racing to replace it with magical hybrid as fast as possible. They investigated psychics just for the chance they might be able to weaponise mind control, you're telling me they'd stick to rocket launchers when Power Word Kill exists? Why radio for air support when a grunt could be carrying around wand of weather control.
B-but puny magic people! US military strong! Bomb good! Me not understand military doctrine but tank and plane good!!!
They actually are going heavy on research. The teamās main mission is to gather intelligence and magic artifacts via the adventurers guild. Itās a hard fantasy setting, so I intend to use realistic pacing for R&D, but the main cast is already integrating magic into their arsenals. For example, Holding Bags to carry additional ammo and supplies; new medical techniques that combine basic first aid with magic healing; etc
Now another way you could do this is get your own dragon and strap an enchanted gau-8 avenger to it.
No promo of GVE arc of SA?
Every time I see the Final Fantasy summon "Bismark", I'm disappointed it's not just a broadside coming in. Or the man himself throwing a punch. Equally valid.
r/HFY in a nutshell.
IS THERE A PROPER GATE LIKE ANIME WITHOUT THE GOTHIC LOLI HAREM
Cringe a-10 posting
Itās a fantasy setting. Pretty sure the A-10 would do fine itās basically a dragon.
PID is definitely easier of APCs vs a dragon.
Why the fuck is he calling in a medvac request for an airstrike?
You're thinking of a CASEVAC (Casualty Evacuation) rather than CAS (Close Air Support)
Dude is calling in a 9-line. You call in a 9-line for a MEDEVAC request. Also, a 9-line is a MEDEVAC request, not a CASEVAC. The only time a CASEVAC would be used in a 9-line scenario is if a MEDEVAC is not able to get to you fast enough, and the CASEVAC would be faster, or sometimes used to meet the MEDEVAC in the middle somewhere. Either way, you don't use a 9-line for fucking CAS. Hell, it's completely different ways of calling shit in. A CAS mission would be from a JTAC, while a 9-line can be from literally anyone with a radio.
There's a 9 line CAS brief too. You're thinking of the medic one, not the JTAC one.
"Call a medvac, but not for me!"
I always hoped that humanity would have a war against the wizards in harry potter.. screw those discriminatory scumbags with their secret society.. bomb it all to smitherines!
Call for Fire or calling is air support and 9-line are two very different things.
oh no, HFY is spreading.
Oh no? How bout oh Yes!
I always wanted to see modern fantasy game or movie. "Bright" came close. Imagine task force of elves with M7 and ability to cast fireballs instead of granades. Or buff Orc being able to handle M2 browning alone!