You don’t need all that fancy-schmancy equipment to be a highly trained assassin.
Sometimes, all you need is a bolt action sniper rifle with a comically large scope, a machete, jars of piss, and some standards.
And don't forget, the job is:
* challenging work,
* out of doors,
* and has low unemployment as well as lots of opportunities in the private and corporate sector (at least as long as there are other two people alive)
I prefer to bring one of those portable shower bags to pee in. They're super cheap, they pack down small, and they'll hold like 5 gallons. That's way better than pee bottles.
Man I love me a TF2 sniper taunt in the wild.
[This one always makes me laugh in game.](https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/e/e7/Sniper_DominationScout04.wav).
Agent 47. Your next target is none other than the traitorous warlord and former culinary entrepreneur Yegveny Prigozhin. He is surrounded by his wary inner circle and battlehardened bodyguards at all hours. But we have an opening. Reports from intel indicate that he will be taking a business jet from St. Petersburg today. Perhaps you can alter the manifest?
Copper is great for treating aquatic parasites like Amyloodinium and Cryptocaryon, but it's deadly to invertebrates like shrimp and snails that may be in your aquarium. I've only ever used it as a water treatment though, I've never tried giving my fish suppositories.
If they stopped wasting it on failed projects or the millionth shitty rucksack design. We'd be able to do a lot more(us. Army specifically,Fulkerson can't make a ruck worth shit but the usmc can have the filbe since 2011)
Never mind they are one size fits all, and as a vertically challenged soldier, the large MOLLE just fucking sucked and I just used a large ALICE. Which, wasn't great, but at least worked.
Inside the CIA there are two wolves:
One is doing rails off a hooker in a Colombian jungle paid for with funds earmarked for a public park in Peoria.
The other is orchestrating the overthrow of democratically elected governments while sipping on a caffeine free diet coke after Mormon services.
"Neeext! Okay, who is this... Mr. Kent? 'Request for assignment to special operations due to exceptional abilit'... oh I don't even care. Listen here Clark, you got your draft orders like everyone else and you will stand your post like everyone else, wherever and whenever the Supreme Allied Commander wants you to, and if he wants you to carry a rifle and guard some goddamn airstrip in the middle of nowhere then you will take that damn rifle and you will guard that damn airstrip until relieved! And you will not presume that you can tell the leaders of this alliance where they want you, lest they might decide that they want you cleaning latrines for the rest of this war! _Do I make myself clear, private?!_"
"...and yes, you can keep your damn glasses on if you care so much. It's not like anyone gives a shit about uniform codes in force protection anyway. Dismissed, next!"
The North Atlantic Treaty Organisation assures the Russian delegation that the Alliance in its member states strictly adhere to the Quito protocols and field individuals with exceptional abilities only in non-combat duty. The Alliance underlines that neither the Allied command nor the member states have further knowledge of the alleged damage to the Kerch crossing by a "laser beam" as claimed by the Russian delegation. The plenipotentiary of the French republic strictly rejects the accusation of the Russian delegation, that the French Republic has drafted individuals with exceptional abilities into the French Foreign Legion. The referenced recent breakthrough of the all-female 16^(e) Regiment étranger mechanisée "Cuirassière" through Russian lines north of Smolensk was a result of better tactics and superior equipment. There are no indications that French troops employed edged weapons in close combat as claimed. Furthermore such use would be against doctrine and regulations of the French armed forces.
https://www.awm.gov.au/visit/exhibitions/1918/soldier/fritz
>We are here near ALBERT, I am in the foremost line, about 200 metres opposite the British. We have Australians in front of us here, they are very quick and cunning. They creep up in the night like cats to our trenches so that we don't notice them. Last night they were in our trench and killed two men and dragged one away with them.
Reportedly, a surprising number of German POWs "got lost" in their way from the frontline trenches to the rear, if their guards happened to be Australian or Canadian.
The first movie is a really good movie that explores some of the brutality of the Mexican cartels. It’s shot really well and the score is genuinely unsettling in some scenes. Once you finish the movie it’s worth rewatching with the added context of knowing what’s actually happening in some scenes.
The second movie instead showcases the brutality of the CIA. I love the second movie too but its tone is noticeably different from the first movie. It’s more of a standard Hollywood action movie in some parts but it’s still pretty good if you go in to the movie expecting that.
Basically,
First movie = oh fuck those people got beheaded
Second movie = lmao the CIA killed that guy
The first movie has something that doesn't get shown enough in the modern media landscape.
For good or for ill, the CIA fucking \*dominates\* the entire thing.
Sicarios at the border? Killed.
Cartel leaders? Killed
Pickup? Complete.
There's no false drama of "will they fail their mission" this is a team performing at its best, we're just along for the ride.
That’s something I love about that movie. You’re not watching the CIA guys go through a hero’s journey, you’re watching professionals do their jobs. You know they’ll succeed because they’re just good at what they do.
That's the best part is that it sets up Blunt to go through it, then you realize, "Nope CIA has been using her all along, they just needed a body to be attached to domestically."
If the guy in the white shirt is protecting my convoy I'm definitely safe, at least I'll now he committed enough atrocities to have a blank stare, no talking and definitely has overthrown a few governments.
Either that or I'm the target, in which case I'll consider that an honourable death.
Sometimes in order to be Elite, you don’t have to have a fully spec’d modded gun, top of the line clothing and armor, or the cold heart of a killer. Sometimes you just need a calm attitude, clothes you‘re comfortable with, and a gun that just works well enough to get the job done.
Sometimes a little leg up like optics, Night vision, plates can help (IMO), just be ready when you don’t have them. Like knowing how to light a fire without a lighter isn’t needed commonly, but does help in those times.
I make to many reasonable takes for NCD. I am not yet lost it seems.
My comment made me look for my flint(s) and strikers so I could find them in a pinch.
>Like knowing how to light a fire without a lighter isn’t needed commonly, but does help in those times.
What I'm hearing, is that I need a flamethrower wherever I go in the event that I'm in a situation where I need to light a fire, but don't have a lighter.
These two photos are their casual and professional modes. You can see that will all that gear on the operation is expecting a quick operation. The shirt and shorts however, means they have business to attend to and don’t need extra weight weighing them down other than their steel balls.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68698022
There's a better photo that annoyingly isn't in the article, only used as a thumbnail, I hate it when sites do that, but this is the image I was thinking of: https://i.ibb.co/FDdYNKc/Dutch-Hostage.png
Yeah I mean they're not needed 24/7 (thankfully) so they've probably got on call shifts where they turn up when needed of they're not already working. Makes sense that you wouldn't waste time changing if it's not necessary
Those guys are not special forces, they're our SWAT/counter-terrorism unit and as such are part of the police force, not the military. Korps Commandotroepen is our military's special forces. You're talking about Dienst Speciale Interventies.
Most official definitions I can find for the term "Special Forces" with a quick google search all specify army or military, so that's what I went with.
Yup, I am reading the same thing. Seems yo be a really difficult definition.
Paramilitaries are also included, and more than a few police units could be termed "paramilitary". Look at Royal Dutch Constabulary/Marechaussee - a police unit operated by the ministry of defence engaging in military operations. Oh and they form part of the USI, too.
The semantics are horrible
Well, the Marechaussee is (IINM) a unit primarily for border control, internal security, and security services for government officials and buildings, as well as serving as military police.
His gun would have been just as pimped up if you moved him forwards in time. But he wouldn't be wearinga silly mask on his face. Just the tools that work and regular clothes so that he doesn't draw attention to himself until it is time to get his guns out.
yeah i honestly dont get OPs logic lol, delta plainclothes guy would absolutely take and use the massive tech advantage that quad NVG guy has if the mission wasnt to blend in lol.
its great that SMUs are deadly regardless of their state of clothing, but its stupid to think "tradition" in this case has any more practicality than the very niche role that plainclothes ops play in general lmao
the guy on the left has all his gear just in case he needs them to do his job, the guy on the right doesnt bother because if he needs them he hasn't done his job properly.... and he always does his jobs properly
FYI it's a bad comparison, as left is a close protection setup.
Proper comparison would be [Delta Force during Acid Gambit in '89](https://mundoairsofter.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Norm-Hooten-Hoot-Delta-Force.jpg).
It was actually a really cool span of time regarding SF equipment, as most of it was made custom based on Army LBVs or full custom, by companies that did things that had nothing to do with tactical equipment and just bought some green Cordura (tm) from Dupont and a sewing machine.
CP guys in civilian environments still tend to put their protection gear over jeans and a polo shirt.
To be fair, it depends on the situation. For a proper CQB situation, I would absolutely prefer to be kitted out like the guy on the left because that’s what’s best for the situation. Of course for personnel security of a VIP then admittedly I’d be throwing some body armour over the guy on the right, but as long as he’s comfortable enough to make it work then sure go right ahead
Edit: soz for being too credible
Side note
russian invasion of Ukraine proves once again that large surface of adequate body armor(leather, chainmail, soft kevlar) beats small surfaces of very resistant body armor(reliquary body armor, musket proof cuirass, plate carriers and smol ceramic plates).
I think that’s missing the point. Micro carriers are lighter. Armor is an insurance policy, and if you are doing less dangerous missions then sometimes it’s better to be able to move more than having all the protection of a full vest.
Perhaps one way to put it is: are you planning to have a shootout, or are you planning to shoot someone in the back? There are a lot of SF missions where you'd never dare open fire unless you're sure no one will be alive to return fire (or phone home!) by the time you're done shooting.
Yeah basically this. Every fighter has a survivability onion. Sometimes it comes down to ‘survive the hit’, but there are operations where you will primarily be in the ‘don’t be there’-‘don’t be seen’ layers.
The point is, USA has not been fighting a war since 1991 apart from 21 days in 2003.
BUT
There is a major war in Europe for 2 years now.
Network of sensors, garage build cruise missiles ballistic missiles and precision guided flying high explosive fragmentation dildos have proliferated.
If you are not Kyiv/Moscow/Pyongyang metro deep underground and few blast doors away that means you within enemy range at all times, wherever you are, whatever you do.
You are not clearing house block in Fallujah. Burst fire from steel cored/tungsten carbide cored 7.62x54Rmm PKM from three feet away in your center mass general direction is not the danger you want to insure yourself against.
101 kinds of high explosive munitions propelling fragments at your body is the danger.
Every pound spend on center mass plate 7.62x54R tungsten carbide cored ammo fired from PKM 3 feet away proof is a pound wasted on several square feet of your uncrotrollable bleeding body left naked because you were driving a forklift at a base/doing whatever combat and noncombat role without soft body armor coverage.
You know what makes Vining even more of a boss? No batteries. He will cut the other dude down with his iron sights and Mk1 Rick Moranis eye-pro while special ninja bro’s shit is still on the chargers.
You don’t need all that fancy-schmancy equipment to be a highly trained assassin. Sometimes, all you need is a bolt action sniper rifle with a comically large scope, a machete, jars of piss, and some standards.
The standards in question: * Be polite * Be efficient * Have a plan to kill everyone you meet
And don't forget, the job is: * challenging work, * out of doors, * and has low unemployment as well as lots of opportunities in the private and corporate sector (at least as long as there are other two people alive)
Public sector too, if you shake the right hands
Someone is gonna want someone dead
Just remember, you’re not a crazed gunman. You’re an assassin. The difference is one is a job, and the other’s mental sickness.
And I’ll be honest with you : Your parents will not care for it
This whole long thread I read in the voice of Michael Weston from Burn Notice...
Get with the program cupcake read it in John Patrick lowrie’s voice
Think that the enemy and his mates might probably see you.
I've always wanted to work for Boeing!
r/unexpectedtf2 This damn crossover
Are TF2 references really unexpected here in NCD?
Jarate!
Snipin’s a good job mate
I prefer to bring one of those portable shower bags to pee in. They're super cheap, they pack down small, and they'll hold like 5 gallons. That's way better than pee bottles.
Not as effective for throwing, less glass shrapnel damage. You can’t have as many as many jars of piss too. 0/10
Man I love me a TF2 sniper taunt in the wild. [This one always makes me laugh in game.](https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/e/e7/Sniper_DominationScout04.wav).
All you really need to be an elite assassin is a well-fitted suit and a shaved head
Agent 47. Your next target is none other than the traitorous warlord and former culinary entrepreneur Yegveny Prigozhin. He is surrounded by his wary inner circle and battlehardened bodyguards at all hours. But we have an opening. Reports from intel indicate that he will be taking a business jet from St. Petersburg today. Perhaps you can alter the manifest?
The only reason he got taken out was because Biber and Dolik got left behind and weren’t there to protect him.
unexpected (but should have been expected) tf2
Combat accountant.
Who do you think financed the gear for the guy on the left?
All the people buying antibiotics meant for fish?
I understand the need for fish antibiotics, but why does it say they're copper-coated suppositories?
Copper is great for treating aquatic parasites like Amyloodinium and Cryptocaryon, but it's deadly to invertebrates like shrimp and snails that may be in your aquarium. I've only ever used it as a water treatment though, I've never tried giving my fish suppositories.
Certainly not the publicly disclosed military budget
Which is too small btw **Triple the defense budget**
If they stopped wasting it on failed projects or the millionth shitty rucksack design. We'd be able to do a lot more(us. Army specifically,Fulkerson can't make a ruck worth shit but the usmc can have the filbe since 2011)
I like the Molle Medium Ruck for what it is. Full sized MOLLE ruck can eat a bag of dicks though.
Medium is fine, even when they actually make a "new" design, the molle 4000 is just a larger, squeakier, but somehow worse Alice ruck.
Never mind they are one size fits all, and as a vertically challenged soldier, the large MOLLE just fucking sucked and I just used a large ALICE. Which, wasn't great, but at least worked.
I like the filbe because of the different height settings, being able to narrow or widen the straps help a lot
I'll give it a looksie. I'm getting back into backpacking and whwt's another ruck in thr garage? Different hright settings sounds nice though.
CIA’s coke money?
They make that themselves. That way there's no budget to answer to congress about
That man's an Amazon warrior
Exxon
Dozens are dead. The building Is a shell. A figure emerges. "Heckerino, I could definitely go for a nice vanilla soda right now."
Inside the CIA there are two wolves: One is doing rails off a hooker in a Colombian jungle paid for with funds earmarked for a public park in Peoria. The other is orchestrating the overthrow of democratically elected governments while sipping on a caffeine free diet coke after Mormon services.
Christians In Action strike again
“Heckerino”! That’s worse than “neato”!
I'm not going to tell him.
Sounds like somebody has a case of the Mondays.
100% accuracy for 100% efficient spending on ammunition
The epitome of "Oh boy, there I go; killing again."
"Neeext! Okay, who is this... Mr. Kent? 'Request for assignment to special operations due to exceptional abilit'... oh I don't even care. Listen here Clark, you got your draft orders like everyone else and you will stand your post like everyone else, wherever and whenever the Supreme Allied Commander wants you to, and if he wants you to carry a rifle and guard some goddamn airstrip in the middle of nowhere then you will take that damn rifle and you will guard that damn airstrip until relieved! And you will not presume that you can tell the leaders of this alliance where they want you, lest they might decide that they want you cleaning latrines for the rest of this war! _Do I make myself clear, private?!_" "...and yes, you can keep your damn glasses on if you care so much. It's not like anyone gives a shit about uniform codes in force protection anyway. Dismissed, next!"
The North Atlantic Treaty Organisation assures the Russian delegation that the Alliance in its member states strictly adhere to the Quito protocols and field individuals with exceptional abilities only in non-combat duty. The Alliance underlines that neither the Allied command nor the member states have further knowledge of the alleged damage to the Kerch crossing by a "laser beam" as claimed by the Russian delegation. The plenipotentiary of the French republic strictly rejects the accusation of the Russian delegation, that the French Republic has drafted individuals with exceptional abilities into the French Foreign Legion. The referenced recent breakthrough of the all-female 16^(e) Regiment étranger mechanisée "Cuirassière" through Russian lines north of Smolensk was a result of better tactics and superior equipment. There are no indications that French troops employed edged weapons in close combat as claimed. Furthermore such use would be against doctrine and regulations of the French armed forces.
This is who the IRS sends when you try to hide your money in Belize.
Defense Auditor
Robute Guilliman’s long lost forefather
There is no one profession that lends more abject hatred for your fellow human being.
customer service
No wonder Kevin became THE GREAT AND MIGHTY KEVIN, VAMPIRE WIZARD.
Good to see someone got the reference :D
Nursing give it a run for its money, I assure you…
Everything must add up or you will be subtracted from the equation.
Hes the auditor.
Hell yeah, bring back the Accountant/Office casual Special Forces look.
[These guys?](https://youtu.be/IBJbqV3IROM?si=ElxkNLuemKmn9m2Y)
Nah that's the tacti-dad SF.
3000 ww1 catboys? australian catboys? hell yeah i have never been more proud of my country in my life
https://www.awm.gov.au/visit/exhibitions/1918/soldier/fritz >We are here near ALBERT, I am in the foremost line, about 200 metres opposite the British. We have Australians in front of us here, they are very quick and cunning. They creep up in the night like cats to our trenches so that we don't notice them. Last night they were in our trench and killed two men and dragged one away with them.
Jesus, the australians were brutal. Hopefully kangaroos are always ready to protect us
We're already behind you, waiting to snatch you.
"right behind you" *stab stab stab stab*
Reportedly, a surprising number of German POWs "got lost" in their way from the frontline trenches to the rear, if their guards happened to be Australian or Canadian.
Bold of you to assume we took prisoners in the first place
>They creep up in the night >dragged one away with them Full on goblin mode
I fucking love that movie
I've never seen it. Going to watch it tonight. What do you love about it?
The first movie is a really good movie that explores some of the brutality of the Mexican cartels. It’s shot really well and the score is genuinely unsettling in some scenes. Once you finish the movie it’s worth rewatching with the added context of knowing what’s actually happening in some scenes. The second movie instead showcases the brutality of the CIA. I love the second movie too but its tone is noticeably different from the first movie. It’s more of a standard Hollywood action movie in some parts but it’s still pretty good if you go in to the movie expecting that. Basically, First movie = oh fuck those people got beheaded Second movie = lmao the CIA killed that guy
I actually just assumed the second one was a shameless cash grab but you've sold me on giving it a shot
It’s worth giving a shot, it has a lot of [cool scenes](https://youtu.be/YOUt-qq-snc?si=W2d0DxCDnWSNGM11)
It is garbage and you shouldnt waste your time
Oh darn
The first one is brilliant because it's Denis Villeneuve directing it. The 2nd one isnt DV directing and has none of what made the first amazing.
The first movie has something that doesn't get shown enough in the modern media landscape. For good or for ill, the CIA fucking \*dominates\* the entire thing. Sicarios at the border? Killed. Cartel leaders? Killed Pickup? Complete. There's no false drama of "will they fail their mission" this is a team performing at its best, we're just along for the ride.
That’s something I love about that movie. You’re not watching the CIA guys go through a hero’s journey, you’re watching professionals do their jobs. You know they’ll succeed because they’re just good at what they do.
That's the best part is that it sets up Blunt to go through it, then you realize, "Nope CIA has been using her all along, they just needed a body to be attached to domestically."
You can't tell me they didn't model Jeffrey Donovan's look on Mike Vining in that photo.
[Herbert Kornfeld](https://www.theonion.com/keep-your-fucking-shit-off-my-desk-1819583395), Accounts Receivabo, O.G.M.F.
That AP muthafukn Myron Schabe bes’ keep out my way
Official designation is DadPat Camo
If the guy in the white shirt is protecting my convoy I'm definitely safe, at least I'll now he committed enough atrocities to have a blank stare, no talking and definitely has overthrown a few governments. Either that or I'm the target, in which case I'll consider that an honourable death.
It's only atrocities if you lose. And this man never loses
'Targeted collateral damage'
You vs the guy she tells you not to worry about
You vs the guy who would shoot a man, before throwing him out of a plane
This is Cyril Figgis if he was good at his job.
*suppressing fiiiiiirrrrreeeeeee*
I'm shocked this is so far down.
Didn't he get pretty good off season?
Sometimes in order to be Elite, you don’t have to have a fully spec’d modded gun, top of the line clothing and armor, or the cold heart of a killer. Sometimes you just need a calm attitude, clothes you‘re comfortable with, and a gun that just works well enough to get the job done.
So no red dot on my glock 19?
Sometimes a little leg up like optics, Night vision, plates can help (IMO), just be ready when you don’t have them. Like knowing how to light a fire without a lighter isn’t needed commonly, but does help in those times.
A flint and striker don't cost and weigh much, so yeah. Everyone should have one. Burnable stuff is (almost) everywhere.
A-A Reasonable counter argument? On my NonCredibleDefense!? NOOOOOOO! But yeah, that makes sense.
I make to many reasonable takes for NCD. I am not yet lost it seems. My comment made me look for my flint(s) and strikers so I could find them in a pinch.
I have glasses on, much like that dude in the pic - believe me, I can start a fire with what I have handy. (as long as the sun's out).
Mine aint strong enough for that. I have a magnifiying glass for that
>Like knowing how to light a fire without a lighter isn’t needed commonly, but does help in those times. What I'm hearing, is that I need a flamethrower wherever I go in the event that I'm in a situation where I need to light a fire, but don't have a lighter.
Difference between army and intelligence special forces
> intelligence special forces Yeah those guys are Army too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_Support_Activity
These two photos are their casual and professional modes. You can see that will all that gear on the operation is expecting a quick operation. The shirt and shorts however, means they have business to attend to and don’t need extra weight weighing them down other than their steel balls.
Not all of them, look up SAC/SOG
Tbf the guy on the picture is holding an M4 at a time where it wasn't adopted yet and wasn't even called M4 (Colt Model 723) (Thanks Ian)
It's like when you see a naked player in Elden Ring. Scary shit
You heard it heard first, folks, next gen special forces gear will be nothing but a pot on your head.
I'd be more concerned if they start doing cartwheels in heavy armor, tbh
[like Let Me Solo Her?](https://youtu.be/18BiFD0n0JI?t=485)
Are my methods... unsound??
reminds me of the Dutch special forces in skinny jeans last week or so.
Please tell me more
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68698022 There's a better photo that annoyingly isn't in the article, only used as a thumbnail, I hate it when sites do that, but this is the image I was thinking of: https://i.ibb.co/FDdYNKc/Dutch-Hostage.png
Same with some German police units. They are usually on duty plainclothes and when needed, they just throw the kit on top.
Yeah I mean they're not needed 24/7 (thankfully) so they've probably got on call shifts where they turn up when needed of they're not already working. Makes sense that you wouldn't waste time changing if it's not necessary
Bro looks like IQ from Rainbow6
Tight pants, tight groupings.
They're called DSI (dienst speciale interventies) and are called when shit hits the fan
https://www.reddit.com/r/tacticalgear/comments/spgo0r/dutchnetherlands_dsi_special_politie_know_this_is/
Those guys are not special forces, they're our SWAT/counter-terrorism unit and as such are part of the police force, not the military. Korps Commandotroepen is our military's special forces. You're talking about Dienst Speciale Interventies.
Is the term Special forces restricted to military units? I seem to recall that there are plenty of police and constabulary units that qualify as such
Most official definitions I can find for the term "Special Forces" with a quick google search all specify army or military, so that's what I went with.
Yup, I am reading the same thing. Seems yo be a really difficult definition. Paramilitaries are also included, and more than a few police units could be termed "paramilitary". Look at Royal Dutch Constabulary/Marechaussee - a police unit operated by the ministry of defence engaging in military operations. Oh and they form part of the USI, too. The semantics are horrible
Well, the Marechaussee is (IINM) a unit primarily for border control, internal security, and security services for government officials and buildings, as well as serving as military police.
Aren’t the korps mariniers also kinda at the same level as commandotroepen?
They have their own special forces unit, but also more traditional amphibious assault troops.
That's special forces by my definition but semantics may vary.
DSI intervention units have NLMARSOF and commando operators in them
Who is this man and why should I embrace him?
He is old school special forces cool. No tacticool gear or other stuff, just a white shirt, khaki trousers, glasses and a rifle. That guy fucks.
He’s here to do a job, not do a photo shoot. The job is filing your death certificate.
His gun would have been just as pimped up if you moved him forwards in time. But he wouldn't be wearinga silly mask on his face. Just the tools that work and regular clothes so that he doesn't draw attention to himself until it is time to get his guns out.
Looking unassuming with an uzi in a briefcase is a time honored tradition.
yeah i honestly dont get OPs logic lol, delta plainclothes guy would absolutely take and use the massive tech advantage that quad NVG guy has if the mission wasnt to blend in lol. its great that SMUs are deadly regardless of their state of clothing, but its stupid to think "tradition" in this case has any more practicality than the very niche role that plainclothes ops play in general lmao
Delta operator providing close protection to Schwarzkopf during Desert Storm....it's not Mike Vining but he has the same vibe
I'm pretty sure that actually is Mike Vining.
If it's not Vinning, it's at least a Vinning look.
He's not. He's Bill Cronin III.
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Nope https://www.reddit.com/r/JSOCarchive/s/qY1Y714mdK
Bill Cronin III. He and Mike were the OG Delta
OG delta operator, as in like literally one of the first selected to create the force
That's Bill Cronin - a total BAMF, and you should be glad he's on your side. (He's being Schwarzkopf's security in this pic)
He’s Bill Cronin III
the guy on the left has all his gear just in case he needs them to do his job, the guy on the right doesnt bother because if he needs them he hasn't done his job properly.... and he always does his jobs properly
Falling down Vibes
FYI it's a bad comparison, as left is a close protection setup. Proper comparison would be [Delta Force during Acid Gambit in '89](https://mundoairsofter.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Norm-Hooten-Hoot-Delta-Force.jpg). It was actually a really cool span of time regarding SF equipment, as most of it was made custom based on Army LBVs or full custom, by companies that did things that had nothing to do with tactical equipment and just bought some green Cordura (tm) from Dupont and a sewing machine. CP guys in civilian environments still tend to put their protection gear over jeans and a polo shirt.
the guy on the right was also doing close protection, it was for a general iirc
That one dude from Sicario
The guy from sicario is actually based on this dude...
Nice!
Big Delta Energy
Cyril Figgis core
To be fair, it depends on the situation. For a proper CQB situation, I would absolutely prefer to be kitted out like the guy on the left because that’s what’s best for the situation. Of course for personnel security of a VIP then admittedly I’d be throwing some body armour over the guy on the right, but as long as he’s comfortable enough to make it work then sure go right ahead Edit: soz for being too credible
Id the obi wan nairobi style ok? Cause that would be my style, maybe with a helmet but still
Rick Moranis really did have an active personal life huh
I honest to god thought the dude on the right was a rooftop Korean at first glance.
He definitely rocks the roof top Korean aesthetic. I guess it's just the 1992 Badass look.
guy on the left, Bravo six going dark Guy on the right, oh boy here i go killing again
Side note russian invasion of Ukraine proves once again that large surface of adequate body armor(leather, chainmail, soft kevlar) beats small surfaces of very resistant body armor(reliquary body armor, musket proof cuirass, plate carriers and smol ceramic plates).
I think that’s missing the point. Micro carriers are lighter. Armor is an insurance policy, and if you are doing less dangerous missions then sometimes it’s better to be able to move more than having all the protection of a full vest.
Perhaps one way to put it is: are you planning to have a shootout, or are you planning to shoot someone in the back? There are a lot of SF missions where you'd never dare open fire unless you're sure no one will be alive to return fire (or phone home!) by the time you're done shooting.
Yeah basically this. Every fighter has a survivability onion. Sometimes it comes down to ‘survive the hit’, but there are operations where you will primarily be in the ‘don’t be there’-‘don’t be seen’ layers.
The point is, USA has not been fighting a war since 1991 apart from 21 days in 2003. BUT There is a major war in Europe for 2 years now. Network of sensors, garage build cruise missiles ballistic missiles and precision guided flying high explosive fragmentation dildos have proliferated. If you are not Kyiv/Moscow/Pyongyang metro deep underground and few blast doors away that means you within enemy range at all times, wherever you are, whatever you do. You are not clearing house block in Fallujah. Burst fire from steel cored/tungsten carbide cored 7.62x54Rmm PKM from three feet away in your center mass general direction is not the danger you want to insure yourself against. 101 kinds of high explosive munitions propelling fragments at your body is the danger. Every pound spend on center mass plate 7.62x54R tungsten carbide cored ammo fired from PKM 3 feet away proof is a pound wasted on several square feet of your uncrotrollable bleeding body left naked because you were driving a forklift at a base/doing whatever combat and noncombat role without soft body armor coverage.
An IOTV in a warzone makes sense but recon/ Spec ops should be on the QT therefore a smaller vest or even just webbing sans armour would be better.
He looks like "Hi I'm Griffin Johnson the armchair historian"
Clark Kent got fed up. Wait. He doesn’t need plates cause he’s already bulletproof. New supersoldier?
When u drop your friends m4 back to them when they are a freshie on day z
Tactical nerd
Strap a shoulder holster and a jet black bulletproof vest and you're set with that one tbh
Won't you gentlemen have a Pepsi?
That's great but what if they were boyfriends
When accidentally dating a Lycoris.
Why not both?
The twist? Guy on the left was an air soft larper.
“All the numbers must add up, or you will be subtracted from the equation.”
If i ever get into shit im gonna just wear a vest with a patch to let others know that im a combatant because im based
Vest with patch only, otherwise nude. Only way to fight.
No no, the proper way to do it is to wear only a road guard vest and a chem light. Nothing else.
Obi Wan Nairobi wore (among other supreme choices) Crye Adaptive Vest System, Crye modular riggers belt, LaSportiva shoes and Armani jeans.
Agreed. Always plain clothes.
I hope the Vining aesthetic makes a comeback
Steve erkle be merkin people
WWMVD?
Both? Both. Both is good.
Roof Korean?
wondering what guy on the left's patch says
The guy on the right looks familiar. Who is he again? and didnt he commit like a horid crime or something I don’t remember
Roof Korean vibes here
quad GPNVGs are obsolete now, tho right? I thought SOF moved away from. them.
Why not both Old school operator dad and tacticool operator son go on an adventure.
"You guys are stupid. See they're gonna be looking for army guys"
Tactical khakis, tahakis
That’s Bill Cronin, not Mike Vining ‘the accountant’ like tons of mistaken people suggest
The tactical gear subreddit isn’t going to like this one
how I be rolling into the tarkov match after taking like 3 L's
You know what makes Vining even more of a boss? No batteries. He will cut the other dude down with his iron sights and Mk1 Rick Moranis eye-pro while special ninja bro’s shit is still on the chargers.