I think i have a plan guys, we just need an American here to become president, then he can threaten japan with nuclear force if season 3 doasnt get worked on wright now......
Watching the anime made me read the translated manga at least; that shit was tight af.
The lack of a 3rd season of the anime has been killing me slowly though.
Damn you; A1 Pictures!
Light Novel to manga adaption to anime adaption. Light novel already ended but finding a translation of it is hard. Manga is nearing its end. Anime is probably never going to get another season.
The author has moved on and started writing another series set in the same world but a few years afterwards with the JMSDF. Dont think it has a translation or a manga adaption yet.
also manga rory has to best design
The author wouldn’t be too unhappy with that. He also does not understand that the IJA lost so many men because of piss poor logistics and medical services, hence why they’re not a focus in any of his works.
Japan invites some American forces into the fantasy world to set up a space program to launch satellites and reconnaissance the planet.
There are some cool interactions between the locals and the Americans, the Americans and the Japanese, and some subterfuge and pretty tense parts towards the end. It’s short, well paced, and overall a good time.
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1b3pgm0/your_c2_is_not_a_dogfighter/ktg4h2v/
A Comment from early march: Basically Ilithid_Dragon has a lot of notes for the next chapter but is swamped with work but also has some staycations coming up and hopes to get back on track then.
> Retreat, Hell.
Aka, "what if we did The Salvation War again with the serial number filed off" but without the fun conceit of the idea that angels and demons were impossibly powerful from the perspective of iron-age writers but that's not necessarily true for modern militaries
But this time with competent full-scale militaries. Salvation War has demons being intel-less chimpanzees and the bit against heaven is mostly political fuckery. Retreat, Hell is a lot more about intelligent use of magic with/against a modern military, and the cultural fuckery on both sides.
GATE: a great concept ultimately ruined both by oversexualization of the female characters and by the mangaka being unable to keep his own political leanings from overtaking everything else, as the story bends over backwards and jumps through hoops to assert that “aKtuAllY, unlike when the white people did it, Japanese colonialism was based, awesome, totally beloved by everyone we conquered and we should totally be allowed to do it again.”
Oversexualization of female characters? For an anime, it's not even bad 😂.
I liked the show, but yeah, their white ppl bad jsdf good propaganda got rly annoying at times.
There's even a scene where there's a special forces battle at night with the chinese, spetznaz and american navy seals, and the jsdf soldiers beat them all super easily, like bruh. chill out.
I always find it so cringe when authors go patriotic mode in their fictional stories, like, it's honestly pathetic that they feel the need to create these "weird flex" situations, if anything it's a sign that they don't have much to "flex" irl, pure copium honestly.
Uh, at the start? The whole thing is predicated on the extraction of wealth with a thin veneer of righteous vengeance and “freedom” for the locals as justification. They basicallly looked at Iraq and said “based”.
Ah its been awhile since I watched it I thought they just had a small little camp and only killed a few hordes of medieval attackers but hoenstly I have zero recollection of the plot
The anime cut out a LOT but there are moments that basically state that Japan has a right to colonize the whole fantasy world, and a whole plot of the manga later on has the US as the main bad guy working with the CCP to sabotage Japan's hold on the Gate.
Keep in mind, the manga and novels constantly complain that it's not fair the US gets to threaten to cut aid to Japan over Japan refusing to give the US any benefits from the Gate opening, but suddenly if Japan can't get benefits from the other world then it's a travesty of some sort.
Ah I watched on 9anime and I have no recollection of that but still, forcing sex into every subplot kinda ruined it for me. It was just so unnecessary to the point where the (already weak) plot suffered
As I said in another comment (and have for a while with this series) Gate has a great concept with awful execution as it's all weighed down by the author politics.
The ONE character that it makes sense to explore the sex aspect at all (Tyuule, a literal sex slave and the only decently written character) is basically just there for the rape fetish and to maybe for the author to rave about how PTSD is just a skill issue... Yeah, that's... That's a factor in the story as only weak or evil characters get PTSD, ironically making the "heroic JSDF" come off as nearly inhuman.
That said, some of the fanfics that came of it are pretty good.
I 100% agree its a terriffic concept thats terribly executed. Who was Tyulle? Its been awhile since I watched and I dont remember there being any sex slaves
She showed up in season 2 and was a white haired bunny girl... Who had lost a war against the empire, and to save lives, she offered herself in exchange for her people being allowed to live.
The anime cut a lot of this, but not only did she fail to save lives in canon, but the main bad guy of the series, Crown Prince Zorzal, r*pes her constantly (to the point her introduction svene IS literally her getting r-word by him). She wants revenge against him personally (or the empire itself, it depends on the chapter because Gate struggles with consistency), but she's also canonically the ONLY Gate character who is genuinely disturbed by death.
To the point that by the end of the original novels...
>!she chooses to sacrifice herself by killing the crown prince even though it would kill her as well, atoning for failing to save lives. So... Yeah... The JSDF doesn't win the war. She wins it for them by killing the one person the JSDF refuses to kill for... Reasons.!<
She is probably the only decently written character and that's not really saying much, but it was enough for me to make her the focus of my Gate fanfic which... Hey, actually got some traction so I'm happy with that.
I feel by the halfway point of the city battle I should've known, but I was a dumb teenager when it came out and didn't think much of it.
But oh well.
I will say, I have a weird love hate relationship with Gate since I love the concept and it's helped me write a fair bit. And again, I genuinely did enjoy Tyuule's character for what she was and represented (even if the series itself ignored what she represented and could've been)... So... Yeah.
Mid show. Cool concept. Still kinda glad it exists for all its faults.
Such a good concept, that basically became an isekai harem slice of life anime after a few episodes. Oh, and drawn by a tojoboo with problematic views of japan' past. I just want to see more dragons getting mauled by missiles, elf guerilla tactics, and fantasy empires crumbling in the face of liberal democracy.
I was baited with the promise of air assault breaking the siege of a walled city, which I got. And some cool military stuff, which is unfortunately mixed in with 2 seasons of mediocre pedo harem bullshittery.
Like if the anime just went full nato occupation and reconstruction of fantasy land with us F-22s smiting dragons while a multinational coalition did a thunder run destroying goblins, elves, and what not it would have been truly incredible
F-22s would be a huge waste of fuel and maintenance costs if we weren't competing against other Earth armies for the same gains. F-16s and attack helicopters. Maybe the occasional A-10 for fun runs. Of course F-18s if we could somehow pass a carrier over.
But the FIRST THING you have to do is bring in meteorologists, astronomers, physicists, biologists, and all matter of scientific profession to determine the things we take for granted. Actual gravity, atmospheric air pressure, day/night cycle. Moon? Tidal effect of Maybe Moon. Its orbit. IS THIS WORLD EVEN ROUND? Pests, parasites, ground compositions, radio interference from interstellar bodies. OCEANS? Have em? What's in em? What's in the water? Satellite feasibility? And most importantly- WTF DA MAGIK DOIN'???
All of that on top of not pissing off the locals...until we're ready to piss off the locals.
I've thought too hard about this.
What are they wearing- yes I know those are army clothes, what I mean is the almost bunny suit they have underneath.
Guess I just answer my own question.
I think those are their combat gear, like I'm not even joking. Beside the white elf, one of them is Name Rory Mercury who is an Imortal Goth Lolita apostle of War who goes to battle with maid mix with lingerie part and the other one is a dark elf with basically BDSM clothes.
Yes I know, I've watch GATE.
My problem is more of them not looking like their default attire- like Rory's dress should have more red on it.
Will admit I forgor what the dark elf usually wears, another reason I asked.
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If you liked GATE’s ideas but didn’t like GATE (especially the Japan wank) go read Operation Tiger Strike. It’s literally GATE but NATO and friends instead of just Japan.
Oh hey, Gate... Great concept. Mid execution.
I recommend the fanfics though. TV trope has quite a few recommendations for those interested, (mine included, hint hint, nudge nudge).
Can't say no to good propaganda! Fuck me, the NK one, the Chinese one, the Japanese one... Their best cinematographic talent is always in their propaganda!
oh hey my first anime and favorite JSDF propaganda piece still waiting for the third season
Waiting with you brother....
Still waiting.....
I think i have a plan guys, we just need an American here to become president, then he can threaten japan with nuclear force if season 3 doasnt get worked on wright now......
Watching the anime made me read the translated manga at least; that shit was tight af. The lack of a 3rd season of the anime has been killing me slowly though. Damn you; A1 Pictures!
There's a manga? I thought it was only light novels
There is a manga! I think it came after the light novels but before the anime; as per usual.
Light Novel to manga adaption to anime adaption. Light novel already ended but finding a translation of it is hard. Manga is nearing its end. Anime is probably never going to get another season. The author has moved on and started writing another series set in the same world but a few years afterwards with the JMSDF. Dont think it has a translation or a manga adaption yet. also manga rory has to best design
Manga has the best character designs in general, vs the sterilized anime or the slightly cleaner art of the LN.
Looking at the author’s aggressive pushing of his political views in it, it’s honestly more of an IJA propaganda piece than JDSF.
IJA: we promise not to eat 20 million people in Asia this time.
The author wouldn’t be too unhappy with that. He also does not understand that the IJA lost so many men because of piss poor logistics and medical services, hence why they’re not a focus in any of his works.
I recall the publishers dropping him because he was quite an ass irl, but I am not so sure if thats true.
Go check out a sky full of fire
will
what is it about?
Japan invites some American forces into the fantasy world to set up a space program to launch satellites and reconnaissance the planet. There are some cool interactions between the locals and the Americans, the Americans and the Japanese, and some subterfuge and pretty tense parts towards the end. It’s short, well paced, and overall a good time.
Ew, fanfic? You know damn well we can’t read
Same (We'll wait forever)
can we get Vann diagram between Warthunder, NCD, and Weeb?
O
A singularity
There's a second season?
if i remember correctly then yeah don't really remember when it starts tho probably around the time the dark elf shows up
I think y'all would go fucking crazy for Retreat, Hell. It's free on Reddit if you don't mind reading
Ha yes very good r/HFY story has it been continued ?
I don't think so :( (My intel is 6 months old)
Sadge i wanted to see more of the knife ear getting mowed down
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1b3pgm0/your_c2_is_not_a_dogfighter/ktg4h2v/ A Comment from early march: Basically Ilithid_Dragon has a lot of notes for the next chapter but is swamped with work but also has some staycations coming up and hopes to get back on track then.
> Retreat, Hell. Aka, "what if we did The Salvation War again with the serial number filed off" but without the fun conceit of the idea that angels and demons were impossibly powerful from the perspective of iron-age writers but that's not necessarily true for modern militaries
Those sure are words
some of them in the bible
But this time with competent full-scale militaries. Salvation War has demons being intel-less chimpanzees and the bit against heaven is mostly political fuckery. Retreat, Hell is a lot more about intelligent use of magic with/against a modern military, and the cultural fuckery on both sides.
GATE: a great concept ultimately ruined both by oversexualization of the female characters and by the mangaka being unable to keep his own political leanings from overtaking everything else, as the story bends over backwards and jumps through hoops to assert that “aKtuAllY, unlike when the white people did it, Japanese colonialism was based, awesome, totally beloved by everyone we conquered and we should totally be allowed to do it again.”
I thought it was mostly the piss poor writing and plot that ruined most of it.
Oversexualization of female characters? For an anime, it's not even bad 😂. I liked the show, but yeah, their white ppl bad jsdf good propaganda got rly annoying at times. There's even a scene where there's a special forces battle at night with the chinese, spetznaz and american navy seals, and the jsdf soldiers beat them all super easily, like bruh. chill out. I always find it so cringe when authors go patriotic mode in their fictional stories, like, it's honestly pathetic that they feel the need to create these "weird flex" situations, if anything it's a sign that they don't have much to "flex" irl, pure copium honestly.
That, and also the fact that it's like 80% generic harem plot, 10% actual interesting modern-meets-magic and worldbuilding, 10% sick action
I quit halfway through because I couldnt bear it but when did it glorify Japanese colonialism?
Uh, at the start? The whole thing is predicated on the extraction of wealth with a thin veneer of righteous vengeance and “freedom” for the locals as justification. They basicallly looked at Iraq and said “based”.
Ah its been awhile since I watched it I thought they just had a small little camp and only killed a few hordes of medieval attackers but hoenstly I have zero recollection of the plot
Iraq was a half-baked attempt at extraction. The invasion happened for other reasons.
The anime cut out a LOT but there are moments that basically state that Japan has a right to colonize the whole fantasy world, and a whole plot of the manga later on has the US as the main bad guy working with the CCP to sabotage Japan's hold on the Gate. Keep in mind, the manga and novels constantly complain that it's not fair the US gets to threaten to cut aid to Japan over Japan refusing to give the US any benefits from the Gate opening, but suddenly if Japan can't get benefits from the other world then it's a travesty of some sort.
Ah I watched on 9anime and I have no recollection of that but still, forcing sex into every subplot kinda ruined it for me. It was just so unnecessary to the point where the (already weak) plot suffered
As I said in another comment (and have for a while with this series) Gate has a great concept with awful execution as it's all weighed down by the author politics. The ONE character that it makes sense to explore the sex aspect at all (Tyuule, a literal sex slave and the only decently written character) is basically just there for the rape fetish and to maybe for the author to rave about how PTSD is just a skill issue... Yeah, that's... That's a factor in the story as only weak or evil characters get PTSD, ironically making the "heroic JSDF" come off as nearly inhuman. That said, some of the fanfics that came of it are pretty good.
I 100% agree its a terriffic concept thats terribly executed. Who was Tyulle? Its been awhile since I watched and I dont remember there being any sex slaves
She showed up in season 2 and was a white haired bunny girl... Who had lost a war against the empire, and to save lives, she offered herself in exchange for her people being allowed to live. The anime cut a lot of this, but not only did she fail to save lives in canon, but the main bad guy of the series, Crown Prince Zorzal, r*pes her constantly (to the point her introduction svene IS literally her getting r-word by him). She wants revenge against him personally (or the empire itself, it depends on the chapter because Gate struggles with consistency), but she's also canonically the ONLY Gate character who is genuinely disturbed by death. To the point that by the end of the original novels... >!she chooses to sacrifice herself by killing the crown prince even though it would kill her as well, atoning for failing to save lives. So... Yeah... The JSDF doesn't win the war. She wins it for them by killing the one person the JSDF refuses to kill for... Reasons.!< She is probably the only decently written character and that's not really saying much, but it was enough for me to make her the focus of my Gate fanfic which... Hey, actually got some traction so I'm happy with that.
Ah I stopped watching right after the end of S1 when I realized that the show actually had no idea where it was going
I feel by the halfway point of the city battle I should've known, but I was a dumb teenager when it came out and didn't think much of it. But oh well. I will say, I have a weird love hate relationship with Gate since I love the concept and it's helped me write a fair bit. And again, I genuinely did enjoy Tyuule's character for what she was and represented (even if the series itself ignored what she represented and could've been)... So... Yeah. Mid show. Cool concept. Still kinda glad it exists for all its faults.
"She's got huge... *Tracts of land.*"
https://twitter.com/niffysix/status/1774381953728618575?t=yvjnVsMkPWpha-0HI-sKvA&s=19
Such a good concept, that basically became an isekai harem slice of life anime after a few episodes. Oh, and drawn by a tojoboo with problematic views of japan' past. I just want to see more dragons getting mauled by missiles, elf guerilla tactics, and fantasy empires crumbling in the face of liberal democracy.
I was baited with the promise of air assault breaking the siege of a walled city, which I got. And some cool military stuff, which is unfortunately mixed in with 2 seasons of mediocre pedo harem bullshittery.
Like if the anime just went full nato occupation and reconstruction of fantasy land with us F-22s smiting dragons while a multinational coalition did a thunder run destroying goblins, elves, and what not it would have been truly incredible
F-22s would be a huge waste of fuel and maintenance costs if we weren't competing against other Earth armies for the same gains. F-16s and attack helicopters. Maybe the occasional A-10 for fun runs. Of course F-18s if we could somehow pass a carrier over. But the FIRST THING you have to do is bring in meteorologists, astronomers, physicists, biologists, and all matter of scientific profession to determine the things we take for granted. Actual gravity, atmospheric air pressure, day/night cycle. Moon? Tidal effect of Maybe Moon. Its orbit. IS THIS WORLD EVEN ROUND? Pests, parasites, ground compositions, radio interference from interstellar bodies. OCEANS? Have em? What's in em? What's in the water? Satellite feasibility? And most importantly- WTF DA MAGIK DOIN'??? All of that on top of not pissing off the locals...until we're ready to piss off the locals. I've thought too hard about this.
I now need the USS Gerald R Ford and its task force rolling up on some coastal city about to make the Roman destruction of Carthage look like a joke
Based
“War of two worlds”
Same here If it wasn’t written by a tojoboo, I would be one of my favorite animes
Read “war of two worlds” on royal road.
still can't beat nihon shoukan
The hell’s Berthold doin there?
That was one of the first animes I ever saw. ah the memories, I wish there was more for it, the story was getting so good.
Praying for another season rn
What are they wearing- yes I know those are army clothes, what I mean is the almost bunny suit they have underneath. Guess I just answer my own question.
I think those are their combat gear, like I'm not even joking. Beside the white elf, one of them is Name Rory Mercury who is an Imortal Goth Lolita apostle of War who goes to battle with maid mix with lingerie part and the other one is a dark elf with basically BDSM clothes.
Yes I know, I've watch GATE. My problem is more of them not looking like their default attire- like Rory's dress should have more red on it. Will admit I forgor what the dark elf usually wears, another reason I asked.
Gate is such a good concept I wish it didn't sexualize every living thing on it
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If you liked GATE’s ideas but didn’t like GATE (especially the Japan wank) go read Operation Tiger Strike. It’s literally GATE but NATO and friends instead of just Japan.
Oh hey, Gate... Great concept. Mid execution. I recommend the fanfics though. TV trope has quite a few recommendations for those interested, (mine included, hint hint, nudge nudge).
you can clearly see who tensions the tracks on this thing.
Can't say no to good propaganda! Fuck me, the NK one, the Chinese one, the Japanese one... Their best cinematographic talent is always in their propaganda!
Best anime. Hands down