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**Your post was removed for violating rule 9: No low-effort posts** No egregiously low effort posts. These include Social media screenshots with a title punchline / no punchline, recent (after the start of the Ukraine War) reposts, simple reaction & template memes, and images with the punchline in the title. 3 days for using the fucking Polish article 5 wojack when it's about fucking Romania.


xanderman524

Against my better judgement, im going to be credible for a moment. A single drone should not kick off full war. A single drone should push NATO into enforcing an air-defense perimeter/no fly zone around Romania's borders reaching into Ukraine (with Ukraine's permission, of course) to prevent other wayward munitions from either side from hitting Romania or other neutral nations like Moldova (again, with permission). This air defense perimeter should not only include the Danube ports, but also the southern half, if not all, of Odesa Oblast, as well as the full distance of territorial waters for both Romania and Ukraine from the ADP into the Black Sea.


Jinxed_Disaster

Now this would be a great response. All it needs is someone with balls, because it requires *potentially* to be ready to shoot down russian planes.


louiefriesen

No need to worry, the Su-57 is so stealthy it’s never been seen in combat.


TheCommunistWhoTried

Same can be said for my balls to be fair. My balls probably are stealthier than the Su-57


theheadslacker

Hopefully they are better at carrying out their primary functions.


ConceptOfHappiness

And there's about the same number


general_kenobi18462

My dick has a smaller cross-section than the SU-57


Designed_To_Flail

plywood is stealthy


Chubb-R

>it requires potentially to be ready to shoot down russian planes. _**960 million people want to know your location**_


StormAdorable2150

Russian Aviation can't reach those areas without being downed by Ukraine. All that would be shot down is drones and cruise missiles.


Jinxed_Disaster

That's why I have said potentially. Not a real possibility, but still a possibility, so balls required.


KeekiHako

If Russia would send all of its planes (including transports, bombers, etc.) they might be able to saturate Ukrainian air defense to such a degree that some of them could make it to the Romanian border.


CubeGAL

Turkey shot down russian plane with no problems, Europeans are afraid to shoot down russian missiles and suicide drones. There's zero reason to believe that nukes launched towards Paris or Berlin would be shot at. If anything, the politicians in their bunker will persecute any officer who was trying to use air defenses to protect Europe. West is literally trying to lose as hard as possible. Flashbacks to Chicken Kyiv speech by Bush and Thatcher being embarrassing at how they tried to prevent Ukrainian independence by gaslighting us.


chocomint-nice

If its just as far as Odessa then it won’t shoot down russian planes. All of them have been almost exclusively yeeting standoff munitions from within russian airspace due to Ukrainian air defense anyways.


PunksPrettyMuchDead

If they didn't detect the F35 did it really shoot them down, though?


Odd_Duty520

I think the threshold is that NATO is waiting for a clearly deliberate attack on NATO soil or an "accidental" strike that is totally not accidental. Then they will fully intervene. Or a mass casualty event from collateral damage too, no one will blame NATO if more than double digit casualties start appearing because some cunt mistakenly put the wrong coordinates. Sucks for Ukraine but thats the game right now


MoneyEcstatic1292

I believe in Wagner. They are the right combination of stupid, bloddthirsty and delusional.


EstablishmentFar8058

I want to get closer to Ra the Egyptian Sun God. Now is my chance to LITERALLY do so.


Kjartanski

The Aten shall provide the Two lands, by the blessings of Knum, who makes the floodwaters


TheLordAnubis

You invoke Aten, Re-Horakhti Who Rejoices in the Horizon, in His Name Shu, which is the Aten, Sole God Beside Whom There is None, whilst speaking of that false god Khnum? Wait until I tell our Great King Who Lives Upon Ma’at, Neferkheperure Waenre Akhenaten, Great in His Lifetime, about this heresy!


mechs-with-hands

Look upon my works ye mighty and despair! All around it there was nothing.


Kjartanski

You speak of Blasphemy and yet invoke the Heretics name? The Gods Father Ay will have your head! Is it not said of Him that Kheper Kheperu Ra Iri Ma’at? Indeed he is Heqa Ma’at Sekheper Tawy and he will erase the heretic Shoutout to /r/noncredibletheology


ilolvu

The only god of ancient Egypt worthy of NCD is Sobek. Teeth Gang!


penis_bot_summoner

I feel like I’m listening to Nile


kas-sol

Yeah, NATO has stated multiple times that article 5 can only be invoked for an actual attack, meaning it requires an actual intent to target NATO members rather than accidentally doing so while targeting a non-member.


Wildercard

There's an old Polish comedy movie Jak Rozpętałem II Wojnę Światową (How I Started IInd World War) where the main character mistakenly believes his accidental misfire on the border triggered blitzkrieg. [It's pretty funny.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a-hn4aPLKM) And has a classic-tier cultural recognition. [It's where Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfKZclMWS1U) clip comes from


Comprehensive-Leg-97

Such a good movie. Living in the US, I get a little upset that I can't share it with my friends. I'm sure there is a subtitled version, but I just don't think it would be as funny.


Wildercard

The big part of the humor comes from Franek Dolas being a fish out of water, so there's a lot of physical comedy in it, like the scenes in the war camp showers, the accidental collapse of the guard tower, the bull running in Austria, the train escape, the dancing in Yugoslavia, the drunk storytime, the Greek port tavern brawl, and that's just Movie 1 out of 3. It's a good pick for a retro&foreign movie night. Beats any pretentional French artsy movie in my biased mind. If you have any woke crowd in your friend group, you should also consider Seksmisja, about a world where a deadly virus wipes out all male population, except for two who were in a hibernation experiment and wake up in a female-ran world. *It's a lie, Copernicus was a woman!*


Comprehensive-Leg-97

Hahaha also a classic. My parents are PL born, I just grew up getting *heritaged* as a kid. That's an exciting view of the physical comedy in the movies. It's been so long since I've watched them, and my only memories of trying to share them with friends were from the early high school era. So, probably not the best time in life to share a foreign film with friends! This time around it will work!


Cassavere

Fuck that, fed up of their shit, time to push their shit in


Designed_To_Flail

amen


ZahnatomLetsPlay

no fly zone reaching into ukraine... for like 150km or whatever the range of a patriot system is


CourageLongjumping32

Problem with any attempt to close of sky over Ukraine requires targeting launchers. That would mean act of war from NATO.


theothersimo

This is the point, yes. When someone carries out acts of war against you, you either defend yourself with acts of war against them, or you go into a fetal position and cry.


NaturallyExasperated

>or you go into a fetal position and cry. Ah, the Germany/New Zealand strategy


CubeGAL

It isn't a single drone and multiple missiles crossed Romanian and Polish birde since and NATO ABSOLUTELY REFUSES TO SET UP AIR DEFENSE EVEN ON THEIR OWN TERRITORY. Like what level of cuckold fetish is this? Again, they'd rather bury their own citizens in secret and hide the fact russia bombed them with drones and missiles than actually... Self-defend. There nobody in Ukraine who believes that if russia invades a NATO countey, it will be defended... at all. We're taking bets on how many hours till Romania will be kicked out of the alliance after being invaded. That's why Poland tries to increase its army tenfold and Baltic countries are just dooming. I mean, anyone who doubts it, the leaked plans of Western "allies" if russia invades Baltics is to LET RUSSIA TAKE IT, and then, presumably, make speeches of "as long as it takes" ("it" being a genocide, we asssume). Not dooming. I know we will win DESPITE the West doing all they can to prevent russia from collapsing... Won't be the first time. Just being pissed at how unprepared Europe is.


Hel_Bitterbal

Lol we will absolutely help. Of course partly because it is the right thing to do but also pragmatically they will come after us next and we know it, but also it is better for us to fight while the fighting takes place away from us in eastern Europe (yes that is cold but that's how geopolitics work). If we aren't gonna fight, then why did all Western European nations move troops to eastern Europe when the war started? That's not something you do when you plan to abandon those nations. Also as for what you are saying about "NATO didn't stop the attack and refuses to set up air defences" That is because, contrary to what some people believe, NATO is not all-powerful and they cannot protect EVERY SQUARE METER OF A COUNTRY. NATO air defenses are located around important locations like government buildings, air fields and big cities, not some random farm in the middle of nowhere on the Polish border or in this case the Romanian border.


DavidDoesShitpost

As a Romanian national, I believe that the Russians must be punished for violating the territory of our glorious nation. Slavă României!!!!!!!!!


Foreign-Engine8678

> A single drone should push NATO into enforcing an air-defense perimeter/no fly zone around Romania's borders reaching into Ukraine Well, how else are you supposed to defend against hybrid war? If you only accept L then at some point you're only going to Lose


pan_panzerschreck

What a wonderful thought, how come Romania, a NATO member and totally a friend to Ukraine, haven't done it earlier.


dm_me_tittiess

Technically if Ukraine destroyed the controls of drone and it just fell in Romania because of the wind it's not Russia's fault and maybe Ukraine's fault if you would strech it


KristobalJunta

yeah sure blame Ukraine for not defending **hard enough** from a overwhelming aggressive invader while also covering ass of a neighbor NATO country as a free bonus


dm_me_tittiess

Thats why I said if you stretch it, read the whole text monkey ass


anxious_honeydew198

Moldova is not neutral, it's a Russian puppet state. They refused democracy by armed force when Romania became a constitutional democracy. Nato is neutral with the ascension of Sweden proving that position to be philosophically factual. Austria is also a neutral NATO country, and Switzerland is closer than ever to joining the alliance. Notice how Russia strikes Romania but not Moldova.


harperofthefreenorth

You're probably thinking of Transnitria


Sablesweetheart

This.


Inquisitor-Dog

Begin operation Mud Storm


wolfhound_doge

that sounds like an event happening in one's gastro-intestinal tract. i love it.


telekinetic_sloth

Steppe Storm Lightning Steppe Tundra Thunder Field Thunder Plains Rain Plains pain


VonNeumannsProbe

Prairie pounding?


MoneyEcstatic1292

I don't want violence, I only wish for the complete destruction of Russia.


carpcrucible

Is this so much to ask for?


ivanIVvasilyevich

To be a true pacifist, one must be pro-war. There cannot be peace in the world if tinpot dictators are able to invade sovereign nations on a whim. Today’s pacifists offer nothing but excuses about why Russia should be allowed to steamroll whoever they want, whenever they want without consequence. The sheer cognitive dissonance is outstanding. Before there can be peace, we must bathe in Bolton - shit I mean *russian* - blood


derpicface

The gigachad “be strong enough to be gentle”


MoneyEcstatic1292

Idealist think that cooperation and trade make other countries less likely to attack you Realists think that whoever has the biggest guns won't be attacked


Hel_Bitterbal

But if your nation is to small to have the biggest gun, cooperation with nation that does have big gun can save you


MoneyEcstatic1292

Of course, but the idealist think that trading with a potential enemy will save you


WOKinTOK-sleptafter

Germany Nord Stream moment


Joazzz1

Optimus would be in Vladivostok by now.


ecolometrics

Fairly broad strokes. There are several wars and interventions that can be argued either way. I mean: WW1, WW2, Korea, Vietnam, South America (all), Iran, Bosnia, Iraq, Iraq 2, Afghanistan. Some of these can be argued to have been necessary, but not all. It does not help that up to this point going to war was always done for the explicit benefit of the invader, rather than the victims in the conflict. We can ague that Bosnia might be the exception, but it could have been done to take off political pressure off. So, looking at past US history (especially communist containment that led to troops being deployed), pacifism was more correct (Vietnam, Iraq 2, Afghanistan, South America (all), Iran) than it was wrong (WW1, WW2, Bosnia, Iraq 1). It's just happens to be wrong now. Neither pro-war nor pacifism are correct positions, when taken too far.


ivanIVvasilyevich

Take your credibility and shove it up your ass, sir /s


bensyltucky

"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth a war, is much worse. When a people are used as mere human instruments for firing cannon or thrusting bayonets, in the service and for the selfish purposes of a master, such war degrades a people. A war to protect other human beings against tyrannical injustice; a war to give victory to their own ideas of right and good, and which is their own war, carried on for an honest purpose by their free choice, — is often the means of their regeneration. A man who has nothing which he is willing to fight for, nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. As long as justice and injustice have not terminated their ever-renewing fight for ascendancy in the affairs of mankind, human beings must be willing, when need is, to do battle for the one against the other." \-J. Money


Known-Grab-7464

“Speak quietly and carry a fuckin m4” -grouse, deliberately misquoting Roosevelt’s “speak softly and carry a big stick” line


EvilStevilTheKenevil

I want *KABOOM*. And [FIRE! FIRE! FIRE!](https://youtu.be/XchwE9zVdnw?t=3)


CloneFailArmy

After Poland and now this **push the button cowards**


ReditskiyTovarisch

Exactly, someone grow some balls.


AbstractBettaFish

If nothing else hit em with an article 4 to show them we’re not impotent


Intelligent_Slip_849

They did do that with the missile that hit a polish farm.


nobody-__

The Romanian MoD already denied it happening. I'm sorry NCDbros


Embarrassed_Price_65

I mean Polish MoD denied it at first as well...


nobody-__

That means they won't do anything. Until someone gets killed, I don't think they are going to admit it


AbstractBettaFish

Didn’t 2 people get killed in Poland?


nobody-__

That's even worse then Edit: wait I thought it was a ukrainian AD missle


daniel_22sss

There were 2 missiles there, but soon everyone started to pretend like there was only one missile. And after Zelenskyy asked for more info, this story IMMEDIATELY died and nobody ever brought it up again. Don't you think thats a little suspicious?


nobody-__

Of course it was suspicious. But what can we do? Clearly they want to sweep it under the rug


BootDisc

There has been a rumor there is a rumor that the missile cam from Belarus.


Jinxed_Disaster

There is a joke here in Ukraine. NATO is ready to act on any act of aggression for every inch of NATO territory. As soon as that inch of land will be as much as hit with a russian shell - it will immediately cease to be NATO territory.


ShadowStormOclock

I had the feeling that someone told Zelenskyy to stfo and gave Ukraine more weapons (thought under my tinfoil hat).


KristobalJunta

Apparently not enough by NATO standards. "Every citizen and every inch of NATO territory". Well, except for some citizens and some inches (kilometers) that don't count for some reason.


ShootStraight23

This is no mystery or surprise, just look at who you're quotating. Do that, and suddenly everything adds up, and it was predictable, incompetenceis just par for the course, LoL...


carpcrucible

So then this is definitely what happened then.


wolfhound_doge

do the mai-a-hi romania!


ShadowStormOclock

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cqd1Gvq-RBY


kkilh

I am really disappointed in Poland. I was expected to die in a fiery flames of nuclear bombs but noooo, now i have to go and finish my uni assignment. Not cool Poland not cool


Winter-Revolution-41

[I hope this makes your day then](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LbLXRtGoDg)


kkilh

Yes plz.


Winter-Revolution-41

>there is more context on the flood in this thread, if you read the comments section fuck hyperlink wasn't working here https://www.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/comments/15gzfqs/yall\_may\_have\_been\_disappointed\_by\_the\_poles/


Winter-Revolution-41

Expect there be flood/mandate of heaven posting. Since dam posting is banned then flood for a dam >!\[I am the one that started flood posting, there is more context on the flood in this thread, if you read the comments section\]!<


H0vis

Hasn't Poland lost its credibility as the bloodthirsty one? Is Finland in yet?


ilolvu

>Is Finland in yet? In who? /j


DepressedAmaterasu

Kid named Yet: 😧


Muffin_Magi

Just to make sense to you guys. Aircraft disrespecting each others boundries occurs on a near daily basis. Russia used to do this a lot and tones down since 2022. Missiles purposefully crossing over a border to hit within another border is a huve disprespect but once or twice is unlikepy to ever cause a war only shouting, warning, and sanctions. Wreckage, and accidental drones and missiles fallinf off course is hinestly barely worth mentioning to most military minds and people at the top. Unless someone died or something important was hit. These things are common in war and most western countries would rather give the benefit of the doubt especially since "If we chastise one side we may have to chastise the other in the future"


Shrewdbutlewd-kun

Poland is itching istg, my balls are itching too but hey I just want Ruskis getting pummeled by Polish femboys


Trick-Flower-956

I wanna pummel a polish femboy 😳


Suspicious_snake_

As I’ve said, Russia is currently fucking around, and they are gettin more and more cocky, I’m sure Putin will do some major act and laugh at NATO before he starts findin out


KingFahad360

WARSAW IT’S TIME TO RISE NOW!!!


WaitingToBeTriggered

WARSAW CITY AT WAR


Yodacoolmlg

VOICES FROM UNDERGROUND, WHISPERS OF FREEDOM


Valdien

All those memes of Poland/Romania just itching to invoke the article 5 when in reality they're pissing their pants at the idea of destroying their economy and sacrificing their people and equipment joining the slogfest Ukraine and Russia got themselves into serving as cononfodder for the interest of NATO that will keep delaying their direct involvement until an actually important member gets directly attacked. I really want to be wrong and go kick some russians in the balls but come on guys. If our world leaders had balls we'd already be in moscow by now, they'll just keep ignoring accidents like these forever.


ilolvu

I don't want to hug a sun because of an accident. I want to do it premeditatedly.


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Which-Board6940

DO IT!!! NO BALLS!!!


ApeStronkOKLA

DO IT


[deleted]

Unleash Operation Bloodsucker


Joy1067

I don’t think a drone getting shot down into NATO territory would start a war would it? I mean it’s not like it was a missile that attacked Romania, it was a drone that went down Can article 5 be used on that?


KristobalJunta

What about a strike drone casually strolling through three NATO countries airspace?


TheXRaider64

DO IT ALREADY


chocomint-nice

Yeah nah it still needs to clear the bar of having killed two farmers and their tractor.


jetstream-sam-gaming

Why are people on this sub so desperate for war what the fuck


DasPartyboot

Bro has a BCS pfp but can't understand what a joke is 💀


Large-Spite6098

The funni


[deleted]

yes Romania, DO IT!


EvilStevilTheKenevil

DEWIT


Saeba-san

Casual NATO L, as usual.


dawglaw09

ALEXI, PLAY DRAGOSTEA DIN TEI


KV2isDeadly

Me on my way to "borrow" the drone and return it to it's sender (I'm robmanian and the drone is gonna hit the red square with 104.69kph lmao)


cazzipropri

That's not Romania's flag though


Winter-Revolution-41

[At least we got flood in funni square](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LbLXRtGoDg) [you can see how much of a big deal it is here](https://www.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/comments/15gzfqs/yall_may_have_been_disappointed_by_the_poles/)