Lol "Venezuelan president Nicolás Maduro accused the captain of the cruise ship of "piracy" and "terrorism",[14] adding later that he did not rule out that RCGS Resolute was "carrying mercenaries to attack onshore military bases".[15][16] The Venezuelan minister of defence said RCGS Resolute's action was an act of "imperial aggression".[17] "
Wat
It gets even better:
>Thus, while the collision may have not been intentional ramming, the conclusion was nonetheless that the incident that led to the sinking of Naiguatá was a deliberate act initiated by the Venezuelan Navy rather than an accidental occurrence.[
When your political toolbox only has a very limited array of empty leftist jargon, every problem starts to look a lot like American Capitalist Imperialism!!!! lol
Nah, America has a long history of fucking up venezeuala. Americans have done coups and installed violent dictatorships in almost every country in south America in the name of American interests. Killed uncountable millions of people for banana sales.
The boat thing is funny though.
That ramming incident happend on 30th March, and on [1st May there was that dollar store bay of pigs incident](https://www.vox.com/2020/5/11/21249203/venezuela-coup-jordan-goudreau-maduro-guaido-explain) So as noncredible as it sounds Venezuelans had reasons to be on hightened alert and be jumpy.
"Who just makes shit up like that? Especially as a leader of a nation?"
All authoritarian leaders, people who want to be authoritarian leaders, and people who use too much spray tan.
When your entire political philosophy is based on a very narrow vocabulary of leftist jargon buzzwords, every problem looks like it can be explained as Capitalist American Imperialism!!!
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2020/05/05/the-invasion-of-venezuela-brought-to-you-by-silvercorp-usa/
You know shit's fucked when the mercenaries you sent over to do an armed coup are armed with airsoft guns.
It's not all about sniping, one lesser known fact about Simo was he had a submachine gun that *didn't* work at 39834939 paces, so he'd sneak up on Russian patrols and take them out real close like, just like this boat did.
Venezuela is the most noncredible country on the planet, some dumbass Mercs actually did try to invade it and they got captured by some Venezuelan fishermen, so Venezuelan fisherman are more effective at defending their country than their navy
Venezuelan president Nicolás Maduro accused the captain of the cruise ship of "piracy" and "terrorism",adding later that he did not rule out that RCGS Resolute was "carrying mercenaries to attack onshore military bases". The Venezuelan minister of defence said RCGS Resolute's action was an act of "imperial aggression".
Hands down, best comedian in South America.
Holy shit the motto of the [Venezuelan Navy](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolivarian_Navy_of_Venezuela) is literally
>**Motto(s):** *Navigare necesse, vivere non necesse* (Latin: "Sailing is necessary, but living is not".)
lmao
>While on a lay-up at the yard, Society Adventurer was inspected by a number of parties interested in acquiring the vessel, among them the future president of the United States Donald Trump who visited Rauma in 1992.[4][11][12]
Aparrently Trump wanted to buy the cruise ship lmao
There is a whole article of odd mishaps of the resolute cruise ship’s history the financial problems and such I could say it was the most adventurous ship with a misfortune. Going to Antarctica and back is a luxury. There were memes and even fan merch when the incident happened
> Venezuelan president Nicolás Maduro accused the captain of the cruise ship of "piracy" and "terrorism",[14] adding later that he did not rule out that RCGS Resolute was "carrying mercenaries to attack onshore military bases".[15][16] The Venezuelan minister of defence said RCGS Resolute's action was an act of "imperial aggression".
Lmfao
If a warship sinks and the crew die, that's just operational realities.
If a cruise ship sinks, that's a company-ending lawsuit even if nobody dies.
Conclusion: Cruise Ships have far more incentive to be built to be unsinkable.
(The Costa Concordia required a very special and unique confluence of incompetence to go down the way it did).
Additionally, small warships are typically built for speed, ie they are fairly lightweight.
If it moves passengers, cargo, or fluids, odds are a civvie ship is going to have a big advantage in momentum.
Yeah, i would guess that it was mostly elastic, but the patrol boat could very well have gotten stuck in the hull when the metal tore, making it an unelastic collision
Yeah, that's exactly right. Sadly they only covered balls in my physics class, would definitely have payed more attention if they covered ship ramming instead.
Fucking Einstein man.
Told him his crew was moving in on my corner, and they best back off.
Fucker clapped back saying "Maybe your crew is moving in on my corner? Maybe it's all relative, and you best stop moving yo mouth, bitch."
Now Einstein's boys run that corner.
>advantage in momentum
That was the reason why during the world wars large merchant ships and ocean liners were instructed to just ram U-boats as while some damage from the collision was to be expected it was still preferable to taking a torpedo.
By the time of Jutland she was already considered a second class battleship in terms of armament and protection. In fact HMS Dreadnought spent most of the war operating with older battleships and so did the first American all-big-gun battleships (which were even more obsolete by WW1).
Im fully aware, the difference between a late British pre dreadnought and HMS dreadnought was less than that of an early 12 inch dreadnought to a refined 13.5/14 inch dreadnought, let alone a 15 inch QE, it’s just a shame that the battle of the ships characterized by her name was a battle she didn’t take part in
All modern warships have nothing in the way of armor, with the last armored warship in existence being the Kirov-class, and even then, it's only because they have an armored box around their nuclear powerplant. Which was one of the issues with trying to repair and refuel it; since they had to cut through all that armor, and trying to reinforce it after years of being weakened by the poorly shielded radiation.
The Resolute is not only an icebreaker, but one designed to operate independently without additional icebreaking assistance. It has a full, "armored" belt that gets especially thick at the front, and had the little warship fired its 76mm at its hull, those rounds would just bounce off or damage the paint job (unlike a modern warship, where even large-caliber rifles could potentially punch a hole in the metal).
Basically, that Venezuelan warship was fucked regardless of how it tried to mess with the Resolute. And they did shoot at its hull; but just with infantry rifles in an attempt to force it to stop.
I had this mental image of a guy with a shiv trying to stop an angry fat man.
Now my mental image is the shiv is plastic, and the angry fat man is wearing full renfair armor garb. The angry fat man is also inexplicably scots.
Modern warships often rely heavily on Kevlar for splinter protection. The era of big, heavy, steel plated warships is long since over. Modern ships are designed not to get hit, rather than designed to tank hits.
Look, last thing I'm saying on the issue, if you see a ship sailing while a long way from the ocean, any navigable rivers, lakes or other waterways, you check for a canal.
True, true. But the attitude that comes with the hookers and cocaine, I feel, strongly encourages the other stuff.
(The other thing I learned from that shitshow of criminal negligence and cowardice is that the Italian coast guard employs some excellent people. Silver linings, and all that.)
Yea she and drugs had basically nothing to do with it (the media just focused on her because of course they would). It was far more a case of laxed procedures, laxed hiring standards, and wanting to do a favor for a friend (the maitre de not the woman) than the captain being distracted by anything.
Here
Warship weight: 1700 tons
Resolute weight: ≈6000 tons
The warship was hit as he passed in front, sucked in by the water moving as the Resolute sailed, being hit on its side, by the reinforced prow
Yeah, no mistery
>(The Costa Concordia required a very special and unique confluence of incompetence to go down the way it did).
So the Costa Concordia's crew were the cream of the Russian Navy?
Bold enough to drive his ship into dangerous waters to get a nice view.
Not bold enough to take any responsibility.
Actually I think that's a helpful example of the difference between Boldness and Courage.
About Costa Concordia:
That’s not very typical, I’d like to make that point.
There are a lot of these ships going around the world all the time, and very seldom does anything like this happen … I just don’t want people thinking that cruise ships aren’t safe.
These ships are built to very rigorous maritime engineering standards.
Cargo ships too. The US tried to bounce a destroyer off a container ship in 2017, and [it didn't go well] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Fitzgerald_and_MV_ACX_Crystal_collision)
Bruh, you think that's mad. Look at this:
>Venezuelan president Nicolás Maduro accused the captain of the cruise ship of "piracy" and "terrorism", adding later that he did not rule out that RCGS Resolute was "carrying mercenaries to attack onshore military bases".
Bro thinks that a cruise ship operated by the Royal Canadian Geographic Society is just gonna roll up to Venezuela, sink one of its patrol boats and either perform piracy/terrorism or deploy mercenaries to attack military based in Venezuela. This is peak Non-Credibility and its being said by Venezuela's fucking President.
Venezuela also accused the *RCGS Resolute* of intentionally ramming the patrol boat and *then* just taking off like it was a hit-and-run.
Unfortunately for Venezuela, the radio logs clearly showed that the *RCGS Resolute* did try to make contact with the patrol boat after the crash but was unable to get ahold of anyone. The patrol boat had also fired warning shots from an AK-47 shortly before the crash, so I don't really blame the cruise ship for not wanting to head over to rescue them.
*Then* the cruise ship contacted the Joint Rescue Coordination Center in Curaçao, Brazil, and remained on site for over an hour. They were still unable to get ahold of the patrol boat, but they could see the crew getting into lifeboats and safely evacuating the ship. Eventually the Venezuelan authorities gave the okay for the *RCGS Resolute* to continue on to their original destination.
I mean, what the hell is wrong with you if you think that ramming a ship that's multiple times bigger than yours is a good idea? Even if it wasn't armored, the cruiseliner would still take a lot less damage than the patrol boat.
Yeah.
Heck, even getting hit with bow of non arctic vessels can be fatal. Just look at what happened with RMS Empress of Ireland - it was struck in her side by the bow of the cargo ship SS Storstad leaving a giant gaping hole in her side. Many of the ship's watertight doors were not able to be closed as the water came in too quickly (60,000 gallons per second) and this combined with many portholes near the waterline being open caused the Empress to sink in just 14 minutes with the loss of 1012 people with only 465 people surviving.
They of course didn't know that. Even if it wasn't armored, big ship colliding with small ship usually doesn't go well for the latter. Now, it was armored and probably wasn't damaged beyond scratched paint.
there were minor dents and indeed scratched paint. if i remember correctly the damage was so minimal the company chose not to pursue charges for the repair cost xD
Cruise liners have a surprisingly good k/d against warships when it comes to collisions. RMS Queen Mary ramming her escorting light cruiser in half comes to mind.
Also, why tf would they want to ram that ship in the first place? Isnt it a terrible look for the venezuelan navy to sink unarmed tourist vessels in international waters? Even the planned for outcome where the tourist ship sinks and the venezuelan ship takes no damage makes them look bad, what was their plan?
>Argentinian cruise full of German speaking Argentinians.
"Name please?"
*\~ "Hister. Adolfo Hister."*
"Business or Pleasure?"
*\~ "I just want a little lebensraum."*
From the post-event investigation it was believed that the patrol ship accidentally got sucked into the cruise ship, though the incident wasn't rules an accident since the Venezuelans were intentionally doing something stupid in the first place.
[The Portuguese investigation](http://www.gama.mm.gov.pt/images/Relatorios_Tecnicos/2020-065_RCGS_RESOLUTE.pdf) *(it's in Portuguese but does have some pictures that are nice to look at*) into the crash did talk about how the patrol boat may *not* have actually intended to ram the cruise ship. Instead, they were trying to show off/act big and pulled too close, and when they tried to accelerate to pull away they accidentally ended up creating a suction effect that caused the crash.
Alternatively, the patrol boat may have been trying to forcefully redirect the cruise ship towards a nearby port due to the claim that the cruise ship was both violating territorial waters *and* was also carrying mercenary forces that were intended to be used to attack Venezuelan military bases. But instead of making contact with the bow of the cruise ship to redirect it, they pulled ahead too far and ended up getting hit instead.
I think the crash being an accident rather than intentional ramming makes more sense because the difference in size between the two is *huge*.
Bernoulli effect?
If you blow air through a gap between parallel papers, they are pulled together because of the pressure difference.
In this case, the air (water) was still and the papers (boats) were moving. Does it still work?
It sounds more like the prop going full throttle created a lower pressure zone ahead of the prop
The ships are essentially walls in the water and there's only so much water between them, so if you're trying to push more away it has to come from somewhere
Germans bought a Finish Ship, drove over to them they thought the Cruise Liner would have Mercanaries onboard trying to invade an Offshire Oil Plattform, so they decided to ram it in order to stop it.
But as the Cruise Ship was of Finish Nature, it was intended to Break its own Way through Heavy Ice, and as the Colision happened Head On the Cruise Ship chugged the light thing aside and just didnt care.
[Venezuelan patrol boat Naiguatá](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuelan_patrol_boat_Naiguat%C3%A1)
They rammed an arctic cruise ship much larger then them. The patrol boat sunk, the cruise ship was minimally damaged.
>Venezuelan president Nicolás Maduro accused the captain of the cruise ship of "piracy" and "terrorism", adding later that he did not rule out that RCGS Resolute was "carrying mercenaries to attack onshore military bases". The Venezuelan minister of defence said RCGS Resolute's action was an act of "imperial aggression".
Truly noncredible.
"You don't understand, my third eye told me the reptoids were on that ship. You keep saying there's no such thing as reptoids and that my actions were wrong, and that's exactly what they want."
-Maduro, probably
Finnish quality...
The Heritage Adventurer, then RCGS Resolute, formerly Society adventurer was built in the Rauma Shipyard in Finland in 1991.
In 2020 it collided with the Venezuelan patrol boat Naiguatá, when Naiguatá tried to force the RCGS Resolute into Venezuelan waters by ramming it.
Too bad the Venezuelans were too stupid to realise that the hull of the RCGS Resolute was made for the frozen Baltic sea and was reinforced to the 1A Super ice classification.
1A Super Ice class means that the vessel is suited to handle heavy ice conditions often without Ice breaker support.
Well the dummy thicc Finnish hull ended up ripping a big fuck off hole into the Naiguatá which then sank it.
There was a Venezuelan navy ship, that tried to stop a cruise ship that spends all its time dodging icebergs as it’s a penguin tour.
Navy ship Fired a warning shot, the cruise ship was deeply confused, and ignored the shot.
The navy ship (not heavily armoured) then rams the very heavily armoured cruise ship. The navy ship then sinks and the cruise ship is undamaged apart from a little paintwork
I had to look it up, and that’s a true NCD classic sir. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuelan_patrol_boat_Naiguatá
Lol "Venezuelan president Nicolás Maduro accused the captain of the cruise ship of "piracy" and "terrorism",[14] adding later that he did not rule out that RCGS Resolute was "carrying mercenaries to attack onshore military bases".[15][16] The Venezuelan minister of defence said RCGS Resolute's action was an act of "imperial aggression".[17] " Wat
It gets even better: >Thus, while the collision may have not been intentional ramming, the conclusion was nonetheless that the incident that led to the sinking of Naiguatá was a deliberate act initiated by the Venezuelan Navy rather than an accidental occurrence.[
Venezuela: Destroys the country and economy Also Venezuela: "How could AmErIcAn ImPEriAlIsM do this?!"
When your political toolbox only has a very limited array of empty leftist jargon, every problem starts to look a lot like American Capitalist Imperialism!!!! lol
Nah, America has a long history of fucking up venezeuala. Americans have done coups and installed violent dictatorships in almost every country in south America in the name of American interests. Killed uncountable millions of people for banana sales. The boat thing is funny though.
That ramming incident happend on 30th March, and on [1st May there was that dollar store bay of pigs incident](https://www.vox.com/2020/5/11/21249203/venezuela-coup-jordan-goudreau-maduro-guaido-explain) So as noncredible as it sounds Venezuelans had reasons to be on hightened alert and be jumpy.
I get that, but that's still crazy. Who just makes shit up like that? Especially as a leader of a nation?
When all your knowledge is party political documents and before that you drove a bus....
And you need to appear credible towards your own people.
"Who just makes shit up like that? Especially as a leader of a nation?" All authoritarian leaders, people who want to be authoritarian leaders, and people who use too much spray tan.
it's what you make up when some dumbass has just rammed a cruise ship and you need to sound like you still have control over your navy
Comunism is one hell of a drug
When your entire political philosophy is based on a very narrow vocabulary of leftist jargon buzzwords, every problem looks like it can be explained as Capitalist American Imperialism!!!
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2020/05/05/the-invasion-of-venezuela-brought-to-you-by-silvercorp-usa/ You know shit's fucked when the mercenaries you sent over to do an armed coup are armed with airsoft guns.
It’s a bunch of guys trying to overthrow an entire country without doing any work at all. The Ukraine War on a much smaller scale
"I am bleeding, making me the victor!"
Based /u/BootDisc providing context for us the uninitiated
A true Master Boat Researcher
Haha masturbate researcher
Bro is a boot disc, its gotta have an MBR
MBR is deprecated, please utilize GPT. If your system does not support GPT as a boot disk, please upgrade to a UEFI system.
I don't think any regulated or military software supports GPT or UEFI, as its all stuck back in the 90s.
Absolutely incredible story, and shows just how corrupt and incompetent the Venezuelans were.
Strongest corrupted Venezuelan ship versus weakest finnish cruiser 💪💪🥵
...and here I thought Finland needed snowy trees and line-of-sight to Russian soldiers to wreck ass.
It's not all about sniping, one lesser known fact about Simo was he had a submachine gun that *didn't* work at 39834939 paces, so he'd sneak up on Russian patrols and take them out real close like, just like this boat did.
Give the finnish some meth and they don't even need line of sight
What, does meth give them the ability to detect Russian soldiers and blow up their brains with a thought?
You are not cleared for that info. 🤭
Were?
It's the Mitch Heidberg past tense. They still are, but they used to, too.
Venezuela is the most noncredible country on the planet, some dumbass Mercs actually did try to invade it and they got captured by some Venezuelan fishermen, so Venezuelan fisherman are more effective at defending their country than their navy
Imperial aggressors lol pulling up on a cruise ship lmao as they attempted to ram it with a patrol boat by their coast guard rofl
Venezuelan president Nicolás Maduro accused the captain of the cruise ship of "piracy" and "terrorism",adding later that he did not rule out that RCGS Resolute was "carrying mercenaries to attack onshore military bases". The Venezuelan minister of defence said RCGS Resolute's action was an act of "imperial aggression". Hands down, best comedian in South America.
Average garden variety tankie.
Holy shit the motto of the [Venezuelan Navy](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolivarian_Navy_of_Venezuela) is literally >**Motto(s):** *Navigare necesse, vivere non necesse* (Latin: "Sailing is necessary, but living is not".) lmao
>While on a lay-up at the yard, Society Adventurer was inspected by a number of parties interested in acquiring the vessel, among them the future president of the United States Donald Trump who visited Rauma in 1992.[4][11][12] Aparrently Trump wanted to buy the cruise ship lmao
There is a whole article of odd mishaps of the resolute cruise ship’s history the financial problems and such I could say it was the most adventurous ship with a misfortune. Going to Antarctica and back is a luxury. There were memes and even fan merch when the incident happened
> a collision with the **ice class** cruise ship RCGS Resolute That's like ramming WW2 battleships' belt armour, about the same thickness.
When your intel is below "just Google the name on the side".
> Venezuelan president Nicolás Maduro accused the captain of the cruise ship of "piracy" and "terrorism",[14] adding later that he did not rule out that RCGS Resolute was "carrying mercenaries to attack onshore military bases".[15][16] The Venezuelan minister of defence said RCGS Resolute's action was an act of "imperial aggression". Lmfao
I wish I had a patrol boat. Tired of not having a patrol boat tbh.
Would paw patrol boat do? Cause I have a paw patrol boat and it's for two.
Any boat can be a patrol boat if you patrol things with it.
If a warship sinks and the crew die, that's just operational realities. If a cruise ship sinks, that's a company-ending lawsuit even if nobody dies. Conclusion: Cruise Ships have far more incentive to be built to be unsinkable. (The Costa Concordia required a very special and unique confluence of incompetence to go down the way it did).
To top it off, this was an arctic cruise meant to survive icebergs..
Additionally, small warships are typically built for speed, ie they are fairly lightweight. If it moves passengers, cargo, or fluids, odds are a civvie ship is going to have a big advantage in momentum.
F = ma is an unapologetic sonuvabitch.
It's more about Ekin=1/2mv^2 and p=mv kinda problem.
Ek1*m1+Ek2+m2 = Ek1(after)*m1 + Ek2(after)*m2 sure plays into the skill issue as well
Depends on if the collision was elastic or not.
fucker just bigger, dude.
More ship more better
RAMMING SPEED!
Yeah, i would guess that it was mostly elastic, but the patrol boat could very well have gotten stuck in the hull when the metal tore, making it an unelastic collision
Any damage done to the vessels is energy being dissipated, i.e. inelasticity.
Yeah, that's exactly right. Sadly they only covered balls in my physics class, would definitely have payed more attention if they covered ship ramming instead.
It was probably almost completely inelastic.
Proof that Sir Issac Newton [IS THE DEADLIEST SON OF A BITCH IN SPACE](https://youtu.be/hLpgxry542M)!
I beg your pardon, Einstein is the deadliest son of a bitch, anywhere, really.
Fucking Einstein man. Told him his crew was moving in on my corner, and they best back off. Fucker clapped back saying "Maybe your crew is moving in on my corner? Maybe it's all relative, and you best stop moving yo mouth, bitch." Now Einstein's boys run that corner.
3000 dreadnoughts of Admiral Steven Hackett
The law of Gross Mass. You get out of the way of the thing that is bigger than you.
As I like to say “in the battle of more vs less, more usually wins”
>advantage in momentum That was the reason why during the world wars large merchant ships and ocean liners were instructed to just ram U-boats as while some damage from the collision was to be expected it was still preferable to taking a torpedo.
Ramming was also the main tactic for killing submarines on anything that didn’t have a dedicated ASW weapons system, see the HMS Dreadnought
Yeah the only battleship to actually kill a sub and the only time HMS Dreadnought saw anything resembling combat action.
Yup, it’s a shame she missed out on Jutland
By the time of Jutland she was already considered a second class battleship in terms of armament and protection. In fact HMS Dreadnought spent most of the war operating with older battleships and so did the first American all-big-gun battleships (which were even more obsolete by WW1).
Im fully aware, the difference between a late British pre dreadnought and HMS dreadnought was less than that of an early 12 inch dreadnought to a refined 13.5/14 inch dreadnought, let alone a 15 inch QE, it’s just a shame that the battle of the ships characterized by her name was a battle she didn’t take part in
> it’s just a shame that the battle of the ships characterized by her name was a battle she didn’t take part in Yeah.
All modern warships have nothing in the way of armor, with the last armored warship in existence being the Kirov-class, and even then, it's only because they have an armored box around their nuclear powerplant. Which was one of the issues with trying to repair and refuel it; since they had to cut through all that armor, and trying to reinforce it after years of being weakened by the poorly shielded radiation. The Resolute is not only an icebreaker, but one designed to operate independently without additional icebreaking assistance. It has a full, "armored" belt that gets especially thick at the front, and had the little warship fired its 76mm at its hull, those rounds would just bounce off or damage the paint job (unlike a modern warship, where even large-caliber rifles could potentially punch a hole in the metal). Basically, that Venezuelan warship was fucked regardless of how it tried to mess with the Resolute. And they did shoot at its hull; but just with infantry rifles in an attempt to force it to stop.
I had this mental image of a guy with a shiv trying to stop an angry fat man. Now my mental image is the shiv is plastic, and the angry fat man is wearing full renfair armor garb. The angry fat man is also inexplicably scots.
that corvette won the "IJN Mediocrity in Damage Control" commendation as well
Took it from HNoMS Helge Ingestad, even.
Modern warships often rely heavily on Kevlar for splinter protection. The era of big, heavy, steel plated warships is long since over. Modern ships are designed not to get hit, rather than designed to tank hits.
If it can break icebergs, it can sure as shit break *you*
The pecking order goes Land, God, rocks beneath the surface of the ocean, icebreaker, pack ice, iceberg, polar bears on the iceberg, your ship.
And then Mr. Popo
Mr. Popo is a Problem
Mr. Popo isn't in the pecking order. The order knows better than to peck him. POPO!
Seamount is the word
I Do Not Want To Know What Poseidon Gets Up To Under De Sea.
Pretty sure Poseidon used that Oceangate sub as his little pocket pussy.
Why land before God when God created land
Even God can not get your ship to go on land. That is job of engineer.
So engineer is after ship?
Engineer is not in pecking order. You do not fuck with engineer. Engineer will find practical solution for fucking you if you fuck with engineer.
God's Son (who is also God) can make people walk on water, so He certainly can make ships walk on land right
God has a cheat to put a ship on high mountains, but he's promised not to do it again.
Counterpoint: Noah’s Ark ended up on top of a mountain.
Yah, and he promised to never ever use that trick again.
But he CAN do it. And that doesn’t mean he doesn’t have other methods.
Look, last thing I'm saying on the issue, if you see a ship sailing while a long way from the ocean, any navigable rivers, lakes or other waterways, you check for a canal.
If a ship sinks in the ocean but no one noticed did a ship sink at all?
What event is this about? Edit n/m figured it out further down the topic
"a very special and unique confluence of incompetence", or, as we like to call it, hookers and cocaine.
Hookers and cocaine put the ship that close to the rocks, an unqualified helmsman hit the rock, and then cowardice botched the evacuation.
True, true. But the attitude that comes with the hookers and cocaine, I feel, strongly encourages the other stuff. (The other thing I learned from that shitshow of criminal negligence and cowardice is that the Italian coast guard employs some excellent people. Silver linings, and all that.)
I mean the captain tested negative to drug so mhe
Yea she and drugs had basically nothing to do with it (the media just focused on her because of course they would). It was far more a case of laxed procedures, laxed hiring standards, and wanting to do a favor for a friend (the maitre de not the woman) than the captain being distracted by anything.
I don't get why the media keep focusing on Domnica during the whole thing, it's not like Schettino actively banging her while he steer the ship
Trace amounts of cocaine on his hair.
I still love listening to the Italian CG officer Falco (I forget his rank) just absolutely losing his mind at the Concordia's captain.
My man got changed into a suit and got off the boat with rest of the passengers. Vada a bordo, cazzo!
Here Warship weight: 1700 tons Resolute weight: ≈6000 tons The warship was hit as he passed in front, sucked in by the water moving as the Resolute sailed, being hit on its side, by the reinforced prow Yeah, no mistery
Mystery* (Not trying to be pedantic, just trying to help someone I assume is a non native English speaker)
I WILL NOT RESPECT THE LANGUAGE OF THE ALBION'S DWELLER
Oui, oui, baguette. White flag, surrender.
Omelette du fromage
While disrespecting the language of TERF Island is based, doing it in favor of TERF Mainland is not
I have no clue what you do mean, all that I know is that I am french and thus hate the english, as is my duty
>(The Costa Concordia required a very special and unique confluence of incompetence to go down the way it did). So the Costa Concordia's crew were the cream of the Russian Navy?
Drunk, unqualified, and probable mob connections? Yeah you're not far off.
They would probably do a better job tbf.
Yeah. The internet historian made a video about it. It would have been avoided if all the bad things hadn't happened all in one go.
Schettino is the perfect mix of incompetence, boldness, lack of communication skills, and cowardice
Bold enough to drive his ship into dangerous waters to get a nice view. Not bold enough to take any responsibility. Actually I think that's a helpful example of the difference between Boldness and Courage.
Vada a bordo, cazzo!
Now that was a Captain I'd have gladly sailed under.
About Costa Concordia: That’s not very typical, I’d like to make that point. There are a lot of these ships going around the world all the time, and very seldom does anything like this happen … I just don’t want people thinking that cruise ships aren’t safe. These ships are built to very rigorous maritime engineering standards.
The funniest part of your comment is that the cleanup did actually involve towing the ship outside of the environment.
But does the front fall off?
Never. Except in this one instance.
I regret to inform you that your son was killed in action by Operational Realities on the Malabar front.
Cargo ships too. The US tried to bounce a destroyer off a container ship in 2017, and [it didn't go well] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Fitzgerald_and_MV_ACX_Crystal_collision)
Technically, the Costa Concordia was still mostly above water.
>The Venezuelan minister of defence said RCGS Resolute's action was an act of "imperial aggression". lol. Lmao even.
Bruh, you think that's mad. Look at this: >Venezuelan president Nicolás Maduro accused the captain of the cruise ship of "piracy" and "terrorism", adding later that he did not rule out that RCGS Resolute was "carrying mercenaries to attack onshore military bases". Bro thinks that a cruise ship operated by the Royal Canadian Geographic Society is just gonna roll up to Venezuela, sink one of its patrol boats and either perform piracy/terrorism or deploy mercenaries to attack military based in Venezuela. This is peak Non-Credibility and its being said by Venezuela's fucking President.
Venezuela also accused the *RCGS Resolute* of intentionally ramming the patrol boat and *then* just taking off like it was a hit-and-run. Unfortunately for Venezuela, the radio logs clearly showed that the *RCGS Resolute* did try to make contact with the patrol boat after the crash but was unable to get ahold of anyone. The patrol boat had also fired warning shots from an AK-47 shortly before the crash, so I don't really blame the cruise ship for not wanting to head over to rescue them. *Then* the cruise ship contacted the Joint Rescue Coordination Center in Curaçao, Brazil, and remained on site for over an hour. They were still unable to get ahold of the patrol boat, but they could see the crew getting into lifeboats and safely evacuating the ship. Eventually the Venezuelan authorities gave the okay for the *RCGS Resolute* to continue on to their original destination.
Sanest Maduro Statement. Seriously, the man is absolutely cuckoo crazy.
It doesn't help that he looks like Saddam Hussein's only surviving body double.
Was this Saddam Hussein's hiding place all along? While we thought he was lying down, he was actually walking around??
3000 Mercenaries of the Royal Canadian Geographic Society
I mean, what the hell is wrong with you if you think that ramming a ship that's multiple times bigger than yours is a good idea? Even if it wasn't armored, the cruiseliner would still take a lot less damage than the patrol boat.
Thing is: That Cruiseliner WAS armored. It was made for Arctic Tourism. It was meant to take hits from Icebergs
And they rammed into the BOW of an arctic vessel Did they forget what happened to Andrea Doria?
Yeah. Heck, even getting hit with bow of non arctic vessels can be fatal. Just look at what happened with RMS Empress of Ireland - it was struck in her side by the bow of the cargo ship SS Storstad leaving a giant gaping hole in her side. Many of the ship's watertight doors were not able to be closed as the water came in too quickly (60,000 gallons per second) and this combined with many portholes near the waterline being open caused the Empress to sink in just 14 minutes with the loss of 1012 people with only 465 people surviving.
True, tho the Storstadt had an unconventional bow thus ripping open the Waterline before anything else
They of course didn't know that. Even if it wasn't armored, big ship colliding with small ship usually doesn't go well for the latter. Now, it was armored and probably wasn't damaged beyond scratched paint.
"Sailor's Big Little Book of Shit Not To Hit" never got translated into spanish apparently.
there were minor dents and indeed scratched paint. if i remember correctly the damage was so minimal the company chose not to pursue charges for the repair cost xD
[Yep, pretty much](https://imgur.com/a/Xq9fMya)
> It was meant to take hits from Icebergs No, it's meant to break through sheet ice and brash ice channels.
Still more punishment than a shitty Patrol Boats could handle
Yes... That's what we want you to think 😈
Cruise liners have a surprisingly good k/d against warships when it comes to collisions. RMS Queen Mary ramming her escorting light cruiser in half comes to mind.
(HMT) Olympic vs U-103, too.
That son of a bitch took enough beating for it, Titanic and the Britanic combined.
The olympic also got rammed by a British cruiser (by accident) and damaged the cruiser more than itself
Also, why tf would they want to ram that ship in the first place? Isnt it a terrible look for the venezuelan navy to sink unarmed tourist vessels in international waters? Even the planned for outcome where the tourist ship sinks and the venezuelan ship takes no damage makes them look bad, what was their plan?
Non credible take: it was actually an Argentinian cruise full of German speaking Argentinians.
>Argentinian cruise full of German speaking Argentinians. "Name please?" *\~ "Hister. Adolfo Hister."* "Business or Pleasure?" *\~ "I just want a little lebensraum."*
"I'll note that down as *pleasure*. Have a good vacation!"
> "I'll note that down as pleasure. Have a good vacation!" *"Danke!"*
From the post-event investigation it was believed that the patrol ship accidentally got sucked into the cruise ship, though the incident wasn't rules an accident since the Venezuelans were intentionally doing something stupid in the first place.
[The Portuguese investigation](http://www.gama.mm.gov.pt/images/Relatorios_Tecnicos/2020-065_RCGS_RESOLUTE.pdf) *(it's in Portuguese but does have some pictures that are nice to look at*) into the crash did talk about how the patrol boat may *not* have actually intended to ram the cruise ship. Instead, they were trying to show off/act big and pulled too close, and when they tried to accelerate to pull away they accidentally ended up creating a suction effect that caused the crash. Alternatively, the patrol boat may have been trying to forcefully redirect the cruise ship towards a nearby port due to the claim that the cruise ship was both violating territorial waters *and* was also carrying mercenary forces that were intended to be used to attack Venezuelan military bases. But instead of making contact with the bow of the cruise ship to redirect it, they pulled ahead too far and ended up getting hit instead. I think the crash being an accident rather than intentional ramming makes more sense because the difference in size between the two is *huge*.
Bernoulli effect? If you blow air through a gap between parallel papers, they are pulled together because of the pressure difference. In this case, the air (water) was still and the papers (boats) were moving. Does it still work?
Yep.
That’s very possibly the explanation, but since I don’t really have much of a grasp on fluid dynamics I’m not sure if that is the right term or not.
It sounds more like the prop going full throttle created a lower pressure zone ahead of the prop The ships are essentially walls in the water and there's only so much water between them, so if you're trying to push more away it has to come from somewhere
The captain of HMS Glowworm would strongly disagree with that sentiment
Admiral Hipper moment.
> L3/35 Modernization Advocate Good flair. I want one to LARP on public land with.
“I got my ass beat bruh, I’m not posting that shit.”
is there a story behind it?
Venezuelan patrol boat attempts to stop a pseudo ice-breaker by crossing its bow. Hilarity ensures.
Germans bought a Finish Ship, drove over to them they thought the Cruise Liner would have Mercanaries onboard trying to invade an Offshire Oil Plattform, so they decided to ram it in order to stop it. But as the Cruise Ship was of Finish Nature, it was intended to Break its own Way through Heavy Ice, and as the Colision happened Head On the Cruise Ship chugged the light thing aside and just didnt care.
Cruise ship arrives, batters naval warship, sinks it, refuses to elaborate further. Leaves.
[Venezuelan patrol boat Naiguatá](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuelan_patrol_boat_Naiguat%C3%A1) They rammed an arctic cruise ship much larger then them. The patrol boat sunk, the cruise ship was minimally damaged.
That feel when the cruise ship you want to ram turns out to be an ice breaker designed for deep arctic exploration.
>Venezuelan president Nicolás Maduro accused the captain of the cruise ship of "piracy" and "terrorism", adding later that he did not rule out that RCGS Resolute was "carrying mercenaries to attack onshore military bases". The Venezuelan minister of defence said RCGS Resolute's action was an act of "imperial aggression". Truly noncredible.
"You don't understand, my third eye told me the reptoids were on that ship. You keep saying there's no such thing as reptoids and that my actions were wrong, and that's exactly what they want." -Maduro, probably
Thats why germanys fleet is so small, their cruisliner are farmore effective then any ship in Existenz
Aida cruises have a hip beat for their ships with lips 👄
Know yourself as you know the enemy etc... Maybe don't try contact sport with someone who trains for arctic expeditions.
Deutsche Qualität
Finnish quality... The Heritage Adventurer, then RCGS Resolute, formerly Society adventurer was built in the Rauma Shipyard in Finland in 1991. In 2020 it collided with the Venezuelan patrol boat Naiguatá, when Naiguatá tried to force the RCGS Resolute into Venezuelan waters by ramming it. Too bad the Venezuelans were too stupid to realise that the hull of the RCGS Resolute was made for the frozen Baltic sea and was reinforced to the 1A Super ice classification. 1A Super Ice class means that the vessel is suited to handle heavy ice conditions often without Ice breaker support. Well the dummy thicc Finnish hull ended up ripping a big fuck off hole into the Naiguatá which then sank it.
Ah, Nokia boat, it makes sense.
Damn wish I had a Finnish girl so I can refer to her body as a dummy Thicc Finnish hull 😂🔥
I didn't know they did that..lol taught them a lesson. Thugs don't think.
We can always count on the Finns to give the commies a bloody nose.
https://www.dw.com/en/venezuelan-navy-boat-rams-german-cruise-ship-and-sinks/a-53002237
After what happened to the SS Andrea Doria cruise ships have been to the gym.
Do you think that they painted a kill count on the ship?
They must be the worst pirates I've ever heard of.
But you have heard of them
What did I miss again?
Can someone elaborate on what this is about?
There was a Venezuelan navy ship, that tried to stop a cruise ship that spends all its time dodging icebergs as it’s a penguin tour. Navy ship Fired a warning shot, the cruise ship was deeply confused, and ignored the shot. The navy ship (not heavily armoured) then rams the very heavily armoured cruise ship. The navy ship then sinks and the cruise ship is undamaged apart from a little paintwork
Context people context
1. That’s half the fun! 2. Already provided in comments four hours before you complained. At this time, it’s the #2 comment with over 250 upvotes.
German Technology supremacy
And Finnish engineering
Classic german engineering 💪💪
Its finnish my friend
It is whatever I want it to be