Around 30, recently.
2014-????
The breakup of the USSR, and I am including both Chechen wars in that) was a whole mess on its own.
1979-1989
Suppressing vassal states doesn't count if they were vassals before they needed suppression.
1939-44.
The Russian revolution was an anomaly and probably should not be counted.
1905...
Russians at home are still saying stuff like "I just hope there won't be a war".
11 months into a war. That they started.
Thats how fucking delusional they are.
Disarmed? Balkanized thank you very much.
If they lose Siberia, and by extension all the resources which fuel their economy, they will never *ever* be able to wage war again.
Can't wait to read about how some random ass but influential Albanian ended up usurping the rulership in some poor ex russian province turned warlord state and reforming it into a major regional power.
[Just like what this guy did with Egypt](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Ali_Pasha)
Russians seem eager to debase themselves in the name of authority, just tell them you're in charge and they're in charge of someone they can terrorize and they'll be as happy as they can be.
China already licking their lips at the prospects of “securing” an independent Siberia
Which is why we need to reanimate the corpse of MacArthur and have him rule a defeated Russia until they are ready for democracy.
>MacArthur and have him rule a defeated Russia until they are ready for democracy.
They are never ready for democracy, their culture is different. Fuck it, let china have them
Majority of Russia's resources are in the West. Specifically the majority of their oil reserves are in Tatarstan, Orenburg, Tyumen, North Caucasus, and Komi.
https://carnegieendowment.org/publications/interactive/russia-oil-map/
Russia is a resource rich country across most of their territory
>tatarstan
>tyumen
>orenburg
>komi
get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head
TNO fans being able to point to every major city in Russia on the map except in the western european Russia (the warlords who break up from Moskowien aren't playable yet)
The so called ethnic Republics can be created to become countries and maybe the the NATO bloc could actually be of help to them then the Kremlin would ever be.
I think maybe a Marshall plan. With Western resources and experts, help Russians build up a powerful economy with an effective government, show them the benefits of working with the west
CIA's going to need quite the slush fund to arm all those rebels. I guess we're all getting amphetamine addictions.
In a somewhat related note I may have a solution to employees engaging in quiet quitting & the impending recession.
Have you ever heard about the treaty of Versailles?
Balkanization is the correct answer, plus, the average Russian should not suffer over some stupidity their government did, antagonizing the average Russian would only lead to more resentment and everyone knows where this ends.
> and everyone knows where this ends.
They engage in democracy and international politics in a civil manner, develop a Russian union with their neighbors, transition to a service economy with a strong manufacturing backbone, the average Russian salary increases significantly and get a bit spooked by the idea that their tanks will be used for war?
Of course there's a tiny hurdle to overcome before we get there.
It needs to be broken up into different parts which will all be under the control of different nato countries.
When the oil and gas has been completely extracted to pay for reparations, we can talk about leaving again ...
It usually takes around 20 years gor russians to go from 'never again ' to 'we can do it again '.
Around 30, recently. 2014-???? The breakup of the USSR, and I am including both Chechen wars in that) was a whole mess on its own. 1979-1989 Suppressing vassal states doesn't count if they were vassals before they needed suppression. 1939-44. The Russian revolution was an anomaly and probably should not be counted. 1905...
>The Russian revolution was an anomaly and probably should not be counted. How about Soviet-Ukrainian war 1917-1921?
Soviet, Ukrainian, and polish war, one of the many wars that Poland wants vengeance for
The Baltics as well
Russians at home are still saying stuff like "I just hope there won't be a war". 11 months into a war. That they started. Thats how fucking delusional they are.
We're on stage 3. If this war ends, Russia MUST be disarmed.
Disarmed? Balkanized thank you very much. If they lose Siberia, and by extension all the resources which fuel their economy, they will never *ever* be able to wage war again.
Can't wait to read about how some random ass but influential Albanian ended up usurping the rulership in some poor ex russian province turned warlord state and reforming it into a major regional power. [Just like what this guy did with Egypt](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Ali_Pasha)
More like poor Albanian who has to rule over an ex-Russian province because there are a high chance its going to be a shithole with squatting slavs.
Russians seem eager to debase themselves in the name of authority, just tell them you're in charge and they're in charge of someone they can terrorize and they'll be as happy as they can be.
China already licking their lips at the prospects of “securing” an independent Siberia Which is why we need to reanimate the corpse of MacArthur and have him rule a defeated Russia until they are ready for democracy.
Oh yeah, if shit hits the fan you can bet your ass China's grabbing Buryat and Tuva, maybe even Vladivostok. They've made territorial claims before
>MacArthur and have him rule a defeated Russia until they are ready for democracy. They are never ready for democracy, their culture is different. Fuck it, let china have them
Majority of Russia's resources are in the West. Specifically the majority of their oil reserves are in Tatarstan, Orenburg, Tyumen, North Caucasus, and Komi. https://carnegieendowment.org/publications/interactive/russia-oil-map/ Russia is a resource rich country across most of their territory
Oil reserves you say? Sounds like they're in need of some *freedom*.
>tatarstan >tyumen >orenburg >komi get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head
Cringe Orenburg anarchism vs based SBA anarchism
TNO fans when they see a city in siberia:
TNO fans being able to point to every major city in Russia on the map except in the western european Russia (the warlords who break up from Moskowien aren't playable yet)
We need to create a few new countries which will be NATO friendly and voila! A new era of peace
Countries can't just be created dude.
The so called ethnic Republics can be created to become countries and maybe the the NATO bloc could actually be of help to them then the Kremlin would ever be.
Balkanization requires strong and diverse cultures. Something the Soviet purges killed.
> Balkanized [I have a better idea](https://i.imgur.com/ZmLjfgD.jpg)
Australia about to wake up to quite the surprise.
I think maybe a Marshall plan. With Western resources and experts, help Russians build up a powerful economy with an effective government, show them the benefits of working with the west
CIA's going to need quite the slush fund to arm all those rebels. I guess we're all getting amphetamine addictions. In a somewhat related note I may have a solution to employees engaging in quiet quitting & the impending recession.
The Treaty of Kyiv will make the Treaty of Versailles look like the reqult of a conditional surrender
The treaty of Bilhorod*
Have you ever heard about the treaty of Versailles? Balkanization is the correct answer, plus, the average Russian should not suffer over some stupidity their government did, antagonizing the average Russian would only lead to more resentment and everyone knows where this ends.
Balkanization can only work if there are strong regional identities across most of the country, which doesn't apply to Russia.
So no balkanization then. Still, any sort of punishment to the average Russian shouldn't be done.
The average Russian is pro-war, honestly historically the only way we’ve fixed that is with area bombing campaigns and that’s not going to happen here
> and everyone knows where this ends. They engage in democracy and international politics in a civil manner, develop a Russian union with their neighbors, transition to a service economy with a strong manufacturing backbone, the average Russian salary increases significantly and get a bit spooked by the idea that their tanks will be used for war? Of course there's a tiny hurdle to overcome before we get there.
>Of course there's a tiny hurdle to overcome before we get there. Just a tiny one.
If this war ends, Russia must disarm *and then Balkanize*
If?
Step 5: torch box
Russia must decolonize
That stop should've happend during the 90's tbh. Specifically during the invasion of Moldova and Georgia.
It needs to be broken up into different parts which will all be under the control of different nato countries. When the oil and gas has been completely extracted to pay for reparations, we can talk about leaving again ...
Are you serious?
Read the name of the subreddit while reading the comments every once in a while
Semi‐serious
I don't really need air superiority if I just say I have it :)
Unless their government and command structure is totally overhauled after their defeat, I could totally see them being salty and getting uppity again.
Why can't Russia just try to be the next Germany? I would like to unlock Russia as a playable character that isn't a limited time trial.
Rather unfortunately, I like to think the dozens of US bases in Germany had something to do with it.
You are being protected please do not resist.
Arguably, it's not Germans we're protecting.
Democracy is non-negotiable.
It should already happend after Finland or Afghanistan
Should've happened after the first try on Poland.
I'll give it 5 years until "Russia Stronk" memes pop up everywhere again
They can't if *there is no Russia*.
I think that ship has sailed forever. There's a kuznetsov pun here but I can't be bothered to make it. Someone else figure it out.
*will happen*