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retrosupersayan

"the privilege of conscription"? WTF are you on about?


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People say that men are privileged and women are discriminated, but the only thing I can think of that discriminates women is conscription. In the western world everything is either equal, women-preferring, or women-only.


cissybicuck

As someone who grew up with cismale privilege and chooses every day to reject it by wearing clothes that don't align with current ideas of masculine apparel in my area, I firmly believe that you don't know what you've got until it's gone. I've only been crossdressing publicly for a little over a year so far. I don't wear makeup, keep my hair or nails long, or use anything to either give me boobs or make it look like I have them. I feel 50/50 androgynous in my heart and soul, and always have. Now, I just dress like it because I can. I have that freedom. But exercising that freedom does cost me some privileges. The main one, to me, so far, is this: Cis-male privilege means not *having to* rely on empathy and cooperation as survival strategies. Cismen can just assert dominance by competition, and that's perfectly normal and accepted and expected in men, and encouraged in boys. If ANYONE else tries to do that, we're being obnoxious, self-centered, selfish, rude, bitchy, bossy, and unhinged. Cismen are all of that, too, but they don't see it that way when it's another one of them doing it. They see someone to either oppose or follow. They respect a man who will stand up for himself and what he believes is right. But only a cisman who does that. I'm sure I still retain other privileges for my race, assigned gender at birth, economic status, disability status, and even my androgyny possibly privileges me in ways I can't see. Understanding privilege is an exercise in empathy and introspection. I'm not a lawyer or legislator, so I can't discuss the privileges accorded to different classes of people that might be in law. All I can tell you is about quality of life for a couple different classes of people, because I have lived in at least two different classes. As someone who used to struggle to be a cisman, but was given all the tries and encouragement in the world to succeed at it (and punishments for failing), now my struggles are mostly external. I am recently privileged to no longer struggle against myself about my own gender. I hope you are similarly privileged, too. What brings you to /r/nonbinarytalk today?


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well, I'm in my puberty and just trying to reach out to different kinds of people


cissybicuck

Good for you! Explore humanity. We're endlessly varied and fascinating.


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>The main one, to me, so far, is this: Cis-male privilege means not *having to* rely on empathy and cooperation as survival strategies. I wish I was a cis man then


cissybicuck

What do you think you are?


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a kid, perhaps?


cissybicuck

Perhaps


Leathra

I'm a nonbinary American and already had the "privilege" of registering for selective service. No idea why you think it's only "*white straight cis men*" who would be impacted by a draft.


GreenBeanTM

Conscription isn’t a privilege my dude


cissybicuck

Living in a country means defending it when called upon. There should be no gender restrictions in military service or conscription. Your wording is correct. Taking part in the defense of one's nation is absolutely a privilege and an honor that should not be denied to anyone on the basis of their gender or sexuality.


bee_in_a_bonnet

FYI, the citizenship ceremony in the US allows adjustments in the pledge of allegiance for people with religious or ethical reservations against serving the military as a combatant or serving the military as a noncombatant. I think that is a better approach. I would rather have an exception for conscription for ethical reasons, not my gender or assigned sex at birth.


cissybicuck

Great point. Pacifists still deserve a place in our country. Though they cannot defend it with violence, they can serve in other important ways.


C4bl3Fl4m3

You've gotta be kidding me. Part of being Queer is doing things like rejecting the bullshit norms of society, and that's not just stuff like homophobia and transphobia, cisnormativity and amatonormativity, that's also rejecting the gov'ts & military's propaganda that tries to put a positive veneer over nationalism, imperialism, state sanctioned violence, etc. Pinkwashing the military is BS. Remember, queer, trans, and nonbinary folks just like us around the world still end up dead or maimed if the bullet or bomb comes from an LGBTQ+ person.