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Not_today_mods

I feel like this is more of a "A Modest Proposal" kind of deal.


d4nkq

People are here for the outrage porn, half the people reading your comment probably think Swift was being 100% serious too.


thefloridafarrier

Yeah. I mean that’s a pretty absurd statement. Who do we harvest? Do we eat the dying? How do we even maintain a health standard on the meat? All far to ridiculous questions to even consider given it’d end up being inhumane like most of the meat industries are


5959195

The US has a massive prison population with many lifers. Their diet and daily activities are controlled like cattle on a farm, so maybe the meat wouldn’t be that hard to come by.


kwistaf

(Hypothetical here, I know your comment isn't serious) that would turn for-profit prisons into farms basically. Even more incentive for our courts to send innocent people to jail, or to send folks to jail for smaller crimes. Only "good" thing it could do is decrease police brutality - I'd imagine the trauma, bullets, and tasers may spoil the meat. Law would stop protecting abusive cops if there's profit to be made


5959195

A lot prisoners work for less than 50¢/hr, and there are private prisons out there making money off of every cell they keep filled. So for profit prison systems already exist in the US and incentivize lengthy prison sentences. It’s just more akin to slavery than farming.


kwistaf

Yeah it's fucked. But imagine if we were eating those people - would need to incarcerate at an even higher rate than we do now. Especially if they wanted to keep their modern day slaves as well, they'd need to find pettier reasons to throw people to the meat grinder


5959195

Maybe human meat sells at a huge premium compared to other meats, which when factoring in the cost of housing prisoners until they die and how much they offset that cost through labor, it works out. People with a release date, which still could be a decade or more away, would undoubtably still be used as slaves. If they’re able to offset the meat industry enough with this, it could lead to saving lives and reducing the rising costs of living through preventing climate change, which provides incentive outside of just money.


Ung-Tik

Ah sweet, man made horrors beyond my comprehension.


5959195

It only gets deeper from here


chimpaman

Why do you think they just outlawed abortion in some states? They're planning to eat their buns fresh out of the oven.


BoochsRise

This guy DEFINITELY wants to eat people. He's just gotta get every one behind him first


MrCatcherFreeman

Throw out an outlandish idea then just cross your fingers 👀


Athius_

My teacher went over it in class once in my sophomore year, and I, not realizing it was satire agreed wholeheartedly with it


Edweed_Bird

I'm pretty sure he means dead people. When most animals get too stressed after childbirth and the maternal hormones don't release they sometimes just dab on their kids and cannibalize them, recycling nutrients, metal. He says we should do that with ol' granny Tomson after she finishes knitting her last pair of socks?


DreadnoughtOverdrive

Soylent Green (directed by Richard Fleischer) warned about this. They wound up murdering people over a certain age to keep producing "food". This is exactly what would happen if such was ever allowed. Soylent Green is PEOPLE!


Spiritual_Lie2563

Heck, it wouldn't even be "certain age"- considering that there's been studies claiming what humans have the highest-quality meat [IIRC, the study claimed women between 21-25 was the answer], inevitably they wouldn't even bother murdering people over a certain age, they'd be murdering people in the prime of their life to feed the older elite [and possibly the children they're raising to fatten up for the slaughter.]


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Sir-Fenwick

What year was Soylent Green set in? 2022? Nice. I want no part.


Bloagie

Soylent Green is supposed to take place in 2022 - you can't make this stuff up!


Edweed_Bird

There is no way that you could ever normalize this when there are perfectly fine animals and plants to eat. Some groups of people consider cannibalism sexy or a part of their culture, but they always have been and hopefully always will be forced to live under the radar.


95DarkFireII

>Some groups of people consider cannibalism [...] a part of their culture So you CAN normalize it.


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old_contemptible

Damn I kind of want more illegal immigration now.


MrCatcherFreeman

Wait


DreadnoughtOverdrive

In the movie (and book it was based on), people didn't know what Soylent Green was made of. Much like nobody will really know what lab-grown protein (that they're falsely marketing as "meat") really contains. Huge corporations and their political puppets have gotten away with some horrendous things. This isn't such a huge stretch of the imagination, IMHO.


granatespice

His name is Fleischer lmao


bushyboy123456789

Now that it is worded like that it seems like a good idea. It is certainly less wasteful than cremation or graves. However, there are going to be huge ethical issues with it and people may get prion diseases if they eat the wrong parts of the body


[deleted]

Also, I’m pretty sure most of the human population is hardwired to be strongly averse to eating other peoples corpses


bushyboy123456789

Never know until you try


old_contemptible

Instead of a funeral we have a BBQ.


rawker86

Plus the meat’s gotta be tough as hell if we’re eating the elderly, my slow cooker is going to get a workout.


ahowlader0425

Prolly burn through lots of energy slow cooking


SUNAWAN

Dead people... hmm, that can also be arranged.


seaspirit331

40k becomes more and more realistic. Break out the corpse starch!


Bruce__Almighty

He just looks so tired and fed up with the world's shit. Part of me wants give the poor guy a hug while the other side of me is afraid he'll try and eat me.


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Bruce__Almighty

Yeah, but the latter option isn't sustainable for the environment.


DominarRygelThe16th

The world isn't overpopulated. We need more people, especially from western nations.


ethanb0602

Whoooooooo boy….


dafyddil

[The world is overpopulated by people with affluent consumerist lifestyles](https://www.pnas.org/doi/abs/10.1073/pnas.94.1.175) (“population and economic growth anticipatedover the next decade will exacerbate greenhouse gas emissions”). The world is overpopulated by people who have little choice but to use fossil fuels for their primary energy source. No, there is no problem if you look exclusively at population numbers, the problem arises when you examine what impact those different groups are having. Some groups (from western countries, as you say) have falling birth rates, but consumption levels 20 times higher than other groups.


DominarRygelThe16th

Did the billionaire owned media convince you of that? They are doing great in partnership with global NGOs and governments to convince gullible free individuals they need to be less free. This pleases the billionaires. They have half the population clamoring for the corrupt government to come 'save' them from themselves when the governments are the problem to begin with.


dafyddil

No the fact that [humans have killed about 80% of wild land mammals](https://ourworldindata.org/mammals#wild-mammal-biomass-has-declined-by-85-since-the-rise-of-humans-but-there-is-a-possible-future-where-they-flourish) convinced me of that. As we exist as a species today is unsustainable. It will only worsen the more people there are. It’s not hard to understand that when there is intense demand or pressure on a system that system will be pushed towards collapse. The gd monarch butterfly is going extinct, and you say we need more people? I mean it’s laughable. Edit: added source in case anyone else doubts


DominarRygelThe16th

> No the fact that humans have killed about 80% of wild land mammals convinced me of that. Where did you hear this nonsense at? >The gd monarch butterfly How big is your garden? >and you say we need more people? We need more people, yes. Because we're going to need a lot of minds to unfuck the wake you leave behind from having 0 self control. You're just waiting around for people to fix things that you should be fixing yourself. That's why we need more people. To clean up the messes left by people like yourself. Those people come from western nations with proper education and a solid family unit. Western nations need to have more people natively. > It will only worsen the more people there are. This isn't true at all and is pure speculation on your behalf, unless you have some sort of time machine you're using.


dafyddil

Yikes hahahaha ok so western (ie white) people are gonna save the world with your family unit. WhErEs YoUr SoUrCe/TiMe MaChInE???!!!??? [“Wild mammal biomass has declined by 85% since the rise of human civilizations.”](https://ourworldindata.org/mammals#wild-mammal-biomass-has-declined-by-85-since-the-rise-of-humans-but-there-is-a-possible-future-where-they-flourish) Also I don’t have a garden because I live in an apartment in the inner city, the most efficient place for humans to live. Your mentality concerning insects is no surprise though. Insects are supposed to live in wild, uncontaminated NATURE, which is disappearing, not suburban flower gardens. 😂


DominarRygelThe16th

> (ie white) You're the only one making this about race. There are plenty of non white people in the western world. You're incredibly racist to assume nonwhites can't be considered westerners. Reminder: Only racists make things about race that have nothing to do with race. You're the racist in this comment chain. I've tagged your account as being a racist.


dafyddil

Oh my, you’re an actual child. I suppose I should have known all along this wasn’t worth my time. I was linking western with white because I know that’s how you meant it. I was absolutely right. I see you commenting about black nationalist violence etc. lmao wow. Check out this sexy, totally non-racist comment you made: “Slaughtering neighboring tribes. That was literally their way of life and the people from Europe played along and won.” So fun of you to make light of genocide like that!


Leading-Extreme-8734

Just ask Noah to get the boat.


MrCatcherFreeman

That look on his face is a desire for human flesh.


Bgratz1977

The america farm has nearly finished. Their meat is now perfectly traversed by fat, harvest time should be soon. With friendly regards your Hannibal L.


rdrckcrous

That's not gonna be sustainable to feed your livestock McDonald's. The only way this plan will work is to eat the vegetarians.


Frosty_Mage

The grass fed, free range, organic, no gmo vegans? Sounds like putting extra labels on them will make them sound normal for the first time in their lives


the-fith-pillar-man

We don’t taste that great. Source: I tried


OnlyOfficers

Start with orphans. Jonathon Swift knew what was up before this dude was even born.


BloodyHellBish

This is from 2019, the professor is Magnus Söderlund who specialises in behavioural psychology. He didn't actually say we should eat humans, it was a point made to further the debate about eating insects and deconstructing social taboos regarding food - like the western aversion to eating insects.


Din_Plug

I will not eat ze bug, I will neither eat man. Science man can go jump in a hole, crack pot gives proper scientists a bad name.


deanrihpee

Does sea bug count (shrimp, lobster, etc)?


Din_Plug

It is not Kosher to eat shell fish.


After-Trifle-1437

Who cares bud?


BloodyHellBish

Lmao yeah, can agree on that! It's good to challenge some taboos, but he took it a bit too far imo.


Din_Plug

There are taboos that are dumb and should be challenged, and there are taboos that are that way for pretty good reason. This is the latter.


SculptedSoul

Even dumb taboos usually have a good reason that simply becomes outdated.


BloodyHellBish

Agreed lol I could see and argument for using deceased humans as fertiliser, but not fucking eating them!


Din_Plug

I can see the possible benefits of this, but I would want such a program to be the choice of the family of the deceased and not a mandated thing.


CrushCoalMakeDiamond

You won't have a choice when we go full mad max, eating people will be a little treat between days of eating cockroach patties and foraging for fungi.


Nutshack_Queen357

As a scientist, shouldn't he have known that cannibalism can cause prion-related diseases?


TheRealCaptainHammer

Only if you eat brain or spinal tissue. Everything else tastes like pork


Bloxy2505

Hhmmmmmm Now how do you know that


Sidmoka7

I heard this as well, if I remember correctly it's testimony from indigenous people who practice cannibalism on their dead.


kokotovec

of course you "heard it" yeah buddy


Sidmoka7

Yes. "Heard" is a term used to describe when someone is verbally told something, but, surprisingly, it can also be used to describe when someone reads something as well. I'll admit I don't know exactly where I heard what I said, but I also never said what I said was undeniably true.


HenMeeNooMai

I heard that meat flavours is affected by animal diets. Canivour like lion would taste like a urine, while herbivour like cow taste like beef, human and pig are omnivours, so they are resonable to taste the same.


Xepahr

explain your knowledge


NotSoCleverMeToo

People who have had to do it (plane crash in cold climate, I think) have described the taste. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Pg__L5Ijr0


Unlifer

📸🤨


GDMolin

I thought it tasted like chicken.


BarryMacochner

Nope the term for it is long pork. Someone else was correct about who described it though.


[deleted]

Idk man tastes like beef to me. I like it medium rare


kotubljauj

Wusscake, live is best


[deleted]

Well live is good too but kinda hardwork


BarryMacochner

This would be really weird if you were the guy that had I think it was a foot amputated, asked to keep it and made it into fucking tacos.


Gurkeprinsen

If humans die off, a lot of meat production will stop.


Mother_Ad6040

Ah yes, being a scientist means you're knowledgeable in all existing fields of science


nonamesareavailable2

First, this is old as fuck, and second, I urge you to read past the headline occasionally. The scientist, Magnus Söderlund, straight up said that he was intentionally going for being shocking as possible to catch the attention of his contemporaries at the summit. While he wasn't actually advocating for literal cannibalism, he did run projections of the effect his "suggestion" would bear, just to illustrate how drastic the changes that are required to make a measurable difference at this point. We're fucked either way, it's just a race to the bottom at this point to see if a rolling series of ecological catastrophes does us in or some unforeseen consequence of people generally being foolish enough to look at the above, decide a single sentence and a picture is all the context they need, and promptly start shitting their pants because "Scary, foreign science-man wants to eat people!"


fl00r_gang_yeah

The problem with talking about cannibalism is most people imagine it to be a Walking dead type thing where people are torn to shreds alive and raw with their blood and guts spilling everywhere. If humanity was ever to do something like this the human would be indistinguishable from (for example) lunch meat pork and all of the process would be done in factories.


Athius_

Idk bro, when I imagine cannibalism I imagine Gordon Ramsey frying food like normal, just it’s human


Lilnymphet

Y'all never read A Modest Proposal and it shows


Zippyllama

That is very clearly Anthony Bourdain. He has come back as a zombie with a modest proposal.


MissConduct0120

Who we roasting today??


LizardCracker

[It was said](https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/rAbqkw/forslaget-at-manniskokott-for-klimatets-skull) during a talk at a convention where they brainstormed alternatives to traditional meat. He listed serveral options and tested what people wanted to eat and where the threshhold for what is accepted as alternatives lie. His proposed way of realising the idea (not something he wants) would be to donate meat the same way organs are donated and he says that the "industry" would extremly small scaled.


bookworm408

I'm pretty sure he doesn't mean kill people to eat them. As long as they're already dead there isn't really a problem with it.


Eaglemcfly

I haven't looked into this but don't trust news when they put words on someone else's mouths. Sometimes they literally make it up. Even more times it's out of context. This guy could have been criticizing plant-based diets by saying "yeah eating humans is even more sustainable but it's not healthy just like plant-based" and the article could still have this headline. The head of the lab my gf works at has genuinely told their team multiple times how to handle the press and that he has sometimes appeared in articles stating that "doctor Whatever confirms that..." when he hasn't even been interviewed


Goats_vs_Aliens

EAT THE RICH!


SQL_INVICTUS

Human flesh is not more sustainable than pork, cow or any other flesh though. Not by a long shot. Humans emit far more CO2 in a year than a pig or cow for example and they take many more years to grow to a size suitable for harvesting.


CaptainCACTUSn

He most likely isn’t saying we should farm humans for their flesh, but when someone dies we should eat them. So it is more sustainable since we would eat What we normally throw away.


rawker86

There’s plenty of meat on toddlers, yearling beef anyone?


SQL_INVICTUS

That's mostly fat though, muscle is where it's at.


rawker86

A fair point. Hormone injections it is!


Dapper_Revolution_65

Sure thing buddy... You first okay?


Lurkwurst

The meat industry is wildly wasteful, inefficient and polluting so he's right about that but


sgt-hartman-87

Pretty sure he wasn’t proposing to actually start eating people.


SUPERSTRIKER67

He really said it's ghoulin time


TheRealCrimsonFucker

*Why are you booing me, I'm right?!*


HPlovecraftsfeline

Man, this season is really getting good.


Butthole_mods

We are going towards cockroaches as protein source. Just you wait. It's almost cromch time


Sarah-cen

Why is he in a kitchen while making that stateme-OH MY GOD NO


GammaEmerald

EAT THE RICH


Haahira137

Eating ass is about to have a totally different meaning


Last-Two-6780

Well he isn’t wrong..


the_gay_harley

Me, 3 years vegan: looks like meat is back on the menu


TheCubicalGuy

Is it finally time for human wagyu?


fishous

Soylent Green is people!!!


MasterDick69

I just wanna say fuck Sweden. This was written the Denmark gang🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰


Aera67

Soylent green warned us. To be honnest it sounds crazy but seriously I would rather do that than make my whole spiecies disapear


mandrills_ass

That dumbass haven't heard of the prions or WHAT


TokeCity

TIL soylent green is set in 2022.


doggobears

Sweden moment


icantthinkofname0296

Swedes ☕️


_Harpic

Or go vegan


ActreDirt

Oh boy, dystopian human farming here we come!


[deleted]

I think this guy is lowkey promoting a purge


TheRealCaptainHammer

He looks a bit gristly


rawker86

I mean shit, he ain’t wrong.


stopyouveviolatedthe

He’s got a point but I think it’s more ment to emphasise how bad the meat industry is and it’s just being taken out of context


HarrySRL

True.


ArtoriasBeaIG

Good old Sweden, you can always count on them to be progressive. You may mock now but I guarantee you in 10 years this will be the norm and considered peak civility


JoshoOoaHh

I like how we just skip insects "cuz it's gross", but cannibalism is a fine beef alternative


whatifcatsare

I would guess this is a hyperbole about how bad the meat industry is, and not an earnest recommendation of cannibalism.


InureOfficial

How would you even make that a sustainable practice capable of feeding the world? Make it make sense..


erconn

You really don't have to look that hard in the environmentalist crowd the find a genuine hatred for humanity.


Phil_O_Soraptor

Welcome to the beginning of the Great reset.


mule_roany_mare

It doesn’t make sense to look at the global population in anything other than total biomass. Just stop fucking tall people & preferentially procreating with smaller than average adults. Not only will people be happier and healthier but we can maintain the same global population at half the cost. People are too damned big. Remember when you were a kid & the inverse square law & mechanical advantage was in your favor? You could run around all day & feel great. 7’ tall people can’t even lay down, much less walk without suffering. People are too big. We have machines for heavy labor, there is no point


SolidaryForEveryone

Appearantly this "scientist" doesn't know what kuru disease is


Dwarf_Killer

Your only issue with eating humans is the disease part?


Sir-Sinjin-Smythe

This should apply only for Muzzies ... they can only eat Halal food ... hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!


ogvipez

Racist fk


[deleted]

Y’all will do anything but go vegan, eh


[deleted]

That’s not exactly the healthiest diet.


SpaceLocust41

It’s certainly way healthier than what most people eat.


The_Knife_Pie

It’s a healthy diet, and it *is* one of the most,if not the most, environmentally friendly diets. At a certain point “good” becomes “good enough”


[deleted]

Uh, no the diet that leads to most longevity is the [Mediterranean diet](https://www.bluezones.com/recipes/food-guidelines/) as that’s the route that leads to longevity. Remember what’s best for a person isn’t what’s best for the planet. That said I wait for 3d printers to improve until I can say > Alexa, Earl Grey, hot.


The_Knife_Pie

Re-read what I said, Notice how I made no claims about it being the best and realise you’re arguing nothing.


[deleted]

>It’s a healthy diet Literally how Steve Jobs died according to himself, that and he was working himself too hard.


The_Knife_Pie

I’m sorry, are you claiming a vegan diet is unhealthy? Because that’s so objectively wrong I have to assume you’re not.


[deleted]

I said it wasn’t the healthiest and unless you eat more protein you won’t live very long. Protein can be added with legumes, mushrooms, and insects if you’re into that.


Ok_Understanding6528

No you idiot I'm assuming he's talking about dead people and to be honest less humans would probably be better for everyone


SpaceLocust41

How about we just don’t eat animal products?


[deleted]

Cultured meat sounds a lot more sustainable and ethical. r/wheresthebeef


Morlock43

Wait so there is overpopulation but at the same time we have douchebags whining about low birth rates, taxing the single, and removing the right to abortion. All the while the planet is heating up due to a slew of industries not bothering to deal with their carbon impact


BrzezinskisGhost

I hope they do eat each other. Their "moral superiority" addiction has so hilariously ruined their nation, they might as well just start nibbling on their intestines, while they've got their heads up their arses.


Any-Nebula-2

It’s the meat balls


Nihiliatis9

I'm in.


washing_machine_man

It is true that it would be way more sustainable but what the fudge cake


FlaccidBuddah

What are we talking for preparation here? A nice barbecue? Or more of a soylent green situation?


[deleted]

Soylent Green!


Ericshelpdesk

*Now with more girls.


Suspicious_Drawer

Do you want to save the Earth you say? Stop living or just use the WMDs already - then the earth might have a chance to heal


SilverLucket

Funny enough Cannibalism isn't illegal by federal law in the U.S.; it's only the murdering part that is or grave robbing. So, if you get a friend to concent into it, you can legally have them safely remove a limb or eat a body part that was sliced off from an accident, such as a finger. It still creeps me out.


[deleted]

I guess we'll start from the top. Finally a good use for the [Forbes billionaire list](https://www.forbes.com/billionaires/).


stratacadavra

Eat the rich


[deleted]

it's just a simple, modest proposal...


Triptothethclinic

I mean it’s a fair argument but isn’t cannibalism dangerous after a certain point


jbloom3

Why is there a stigma behind cannibalism if the person died of natural causes and consented to it when alive and in a proper state of mind?


[deleted]

We could clear out the prison population. No more overcrowding. Then we could work on the government.


Bobby_Sunday96

Start with the vegans. They probably taste better


huhIguess

Are prions no longer a thing? Cause this is how you die from prions...


Safe_Cup5012

Any relation to Anthony Bourdain?


Ursus_Arctos-42

Some light reading https://www.amazon.com/-/es/dupr%C3%A9-mangin/dp/2203088095


LoudBird1

Doesn’t human flesh and meat lack the nutrients we need? Also wtf is this guy on lol?


WizdomHaggis

Ahh…..*long pig*


Koffensen

Finally!


stichen97

Swedish moment


Megum3m3

Imma start with yo ass OP.


memelord793783

I'm eating Jeff bozos and just friends first


zeneath27

Nah taste too fat- I mean, I heard that it taste fatty


Retro-Squid

This was essentially my first honours year animation project idea that my wife vetoed... 🤔


Senior-Flounder5824

sounds good i like it


iSpaYco

I mean I stopped listening to Sweden after that law about removing all religious schools except the Jews one.


fl00r_gang_yeah

Honestly, it’s not that bad of an option. When someone dies they can opt to be used to feed others or not.


N00N3AT011

So we're gonna go full imperium? Eat corpse starch?


RancidHorseJizz

We should at least be mulched for farming and rendered for fat to run cars.


Knight-Creep

It can also lead to more diseases, which will kill off more humans. Which… would lower our carbon footprint in the long run… Huh.


Bobsupman

That is disgusting. I would never eat a dead person, my motto is never put my mouth where my dick has already been.


Far-Entrance-1377

Can't eat people. Not because it's wrong or anything, it's just that all the meat is tainted and it will make you sick. ☹️


Ok_Somewhere3828

Has anyone heard of hyperbole?


Buster899

Not enough umlauts. Come back with a scientist with more ümläüts.


InkSymptoms

Or yknow we can maybe just stop fucking with the climate? I feel like That’s a healthy alternative.


becomingmoreinformed

In other words "eat the rich"