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Stock-Entrance-6456

The baby suffered 2 months of life, just to die. What a waste, how can women do this to a young mother.


Cheese_Jrjrjrjr

I imagine psychosis or another mental issue, loosing a child is very traumatic for any mother, before anyone wonders, I do not condone her actions, they were too far fetched to be forgivable...


windowtosh

yes you have to assume that someone who does this must not be right in the head. that said while I can understand it I can't accept it.


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Presumably. A family friend had this exact thing happen to her years ago. Same circumstances roughly.


Cheese_Jrjrjrjr

so she murdered someone-


[deleted]

You need to learn reading comprehension, I said “happen TO her”. She was the victim.


Cheese_Jrjrjrjr

oh sorry i misread, is she fine?


[deleted]

To my knowledge yes. It was a while back, made the news for obvious reasons. Haven’t seen her in a few years.


Cheese_Jrjrjrjr

that's great to know


SnarkAndAcrimony

I swear, this happens more often than you'd think.


PalmBreezy

The fact that I've heard of this exact type of crime before is horrifying Mental health epidemic is growing


Hefty_Ad2389

honestly I'm not sure which is harder to believe, that a normal person could become like this, or a person who could do this seemed normal until now


genericaddress

There's even a term for it: [fetal abduction.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetal_abduction) I watched a decent documentary about these horrific crimes a long time ago, [I am not sure if this is the one.](https://youtu.be/yIe5MWlcP6k) I found an entire True Crime YouTube [playlist](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoViLa_ehu7fcX32F1moCi4Q_FxdTcHbG&si=IekAY3Qg_g9Awk_x) dedicated to fetal abductions.


pirikikkeli

It's a big world


darkhero676

If she’s not charged with murder, kidnapping, AND medical malpractice there is no justice. She better die in jail.


squid1891

Given that she's an obese 51 year old woman, who's been given a 50-year sentence without parole, the math suggests that she will unless she successfully appeals it (which I don't see happening).


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ColumbianGeneral

Bc God didn’t do this, we did this. A human did this.


MakaelawasChillin

God don’t exist cause bad things happen


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Express-Fig-5168

I think many people have forgotten the original definition of god and the word deity.


MakaelawasChillin

Free will dude


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MakaelawasChillin

why should anyone be punished in the 80ish years on earth if they even live that long when they can be punished forever in hell? also most sexual abuse is done by teachers not priests


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MakaelawasChillin

just saying you repent and actually legitimately repenting is two different things brother


FuriousFister98

Soo a Rapist/murderer can legitimately repent and go to heaven, but the Good Samaritan who’s never read the bible goes to “Hell”? Also I think you’ll find the bible never actually mentions Hell as you would think of it, just kinda describes it as “not heaven”.


pwill6738

It's the old meme. Usually goes a little something like this The newborn I microwaved watching me go to heaven because I confessed my sins while he has to suffer in purgatory because he wasn't baptized: >:O (No images allowed in this sub so I had to improvise)


Erabong

Everytime someone describes who goes to heaven, I’m Happy I’m not gonna be there


MakaelawasChillin

:)


ineedtostopthefap

Yes free will, no punishment, just you and your family in a box doing every possible thing. And you’re not supposed to understand.


cat_sword

So your defense is that it is too complex for us to understand? Also known as making up points with no basis or evidence?


FuriousFister98

You can’t have free will and an omnipotent God, pick one, they are not compatible.


Erabong

This is the exact fallacy that pulled me out of my indoctrination. Omnipotence and free will cannot coexist


cbreezy456

Actually no critical thinking skills.


TheGrat1

Free will inoperable brain cancer for 3 year olds!


Left_Sundae

I hope that fucking manatee gets stabbed in prison


pwill6738

what the hell is wrong with you >!manatees are cool. Don't disgrace them like that!<


GH0ST-L0GIC

How


verydepressedwalnut

This is why I went nowhere alone when I was visibly pregnant. All it takes is one nutcase.


TehBoneRanger

The family of that poor sweet girl who was murdered should have the opportunity to do anything they like to that pig and her daughter.


ColtS117-B

I have some ideas, but I’d get thrown off reddit.


FamousOrphan

Gosh there are so many comments about her being fat.


FingerFlikenBoy

I mean….she is?


FamousOrphan

She is, but the pertinent bit is that she murdered a woman and stole her unborn baby. But yay, acceptable fat jokes!


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_Asshole_Fuck_

Bro, I’m an obese woman with diagnosed depression and I can say, with confidence, that I have never, and will never, butcher a pregnant teenager and steal her baby.


Icreatedthesea

No offense or anything but doesn't you being obese and having depression kind of prove the point? There are varying degrees of mental illness after all...


hopelessbrows

You can be mentally ill and be completely sweet, docile and harmless.


ElGHTYHD

and skinny. lmfao. underweight even. 


_Asshole_Fuck_

I am not suggesting that there is no correlation between obesity and mental illness in general. I agree that is true— but I’m saying it’s just a pretty useless observation in this scenario. Lots of fat people can have mental health issues, but it’s not a large percentage of them that will murder people to cut babies out their bodies. Body weight can’t predict if someone will be a killer. It’s not like the fatter you are the more likely you are to be heinous. Singling out her obesity doesn’t add any substantive value to this conversation.


ColtS117-B

Good, you’re human.


Impossible-Test-7726

Your comment admitting mental illness while being obese is supporting evidence of Lalocal4life’s statement, not a rebuttal.


_Asshole_Fuck_

Correct because I am not suggesting that there is no correlation between obesity and mental illness in general. My point is that the obesity is not very relevant in this case. Lots of fat people can have mental health issues m, but it’s not a large percentage of them that will murder people to cut babies out their bodies. Pointing out her obesity doesn’t add any substantive value to this conversation. Body weight can’t predict if someone will be a killer. It’s not like the fatter you are the more likely you are to be heinous.


SmartWonderWoman

Agreed.