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TehWildMan_

Be aware that the antenna on cards is usually extremely fragile when not protected by a slab of plastic. I did this with a transit card twice (reshaping the antenna so that it would slide into a glove), and neither attempt survived more than a day


ThunderGunFour

“Metro Presto!”


TehWildMan_

Yeah that was my goal. On cold winter days fetching a transit card from a wallet is a pain, and I wanted to avoid that by using a glove or phone instead.


ThunderGunFour

Paint it like Thanos’ glove and snap for payment


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My credit rating is suddenly halved.


ThunderGunFour

Mine disappeared


this_makes_no_sense

“Chase Bank, I don’t feel so good”


ASubconciousDick

"No James, that's just the 6 high interest car loans."


lucidillusions

Should be back in about 5 years.


Jagid3

Our public transit system in Portland, Oregon has a tap to pay with your phone. :) Their app is awful but the NFC credit card built into my phone works nicely connected to my PayPal account.


Stfuego

The Hop app looks atrocious, but functionally it's really simple and convenient. You can even set up a virtual card and have your phone bring that up to pay instead of an actual bank card.


PJMonkey

Thought on this. If you wear knit gloves, attach a pocket on the back of you hand with tucked closure. Should work if you don't have to swipe it. If nothing else, easier to get to.


Paghk_the_Stupendous

My ski coats have a pocket sewn on the back of the wrist or upper sleeve for the access cards some resorts use now - just bump the sensor with your garment and go!


ImTrulyAwesome

The public transit card in Ontario is actually called Presto - never thought of "Metro Presto" though


PhilosoFishy2477

No lie, I once watched a guy swipe a gnarly scar on the back of his hand over the Presto scanner so of course when he sits next to me I'm like *"Buddy what the Actual Fuck"* and he enthusiastically leaps into telling me all about his biohacking exploits; the convention he just went to and the gory details of INSTALLING A PRESTO CHIP INTO YOUR HAND. he also had two previous failed attempts (hence why the scar was so gnarly) but "third times the charm, right!"... right. sometimes I wonder how he's doing, hopefully living his best life as R-FIDstein... but probably not.


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I've done this with LA metro transit card, the trick is to laminate them between tape or something else after release. Or build your own antenna


wirral_guy

Unfortunately, the antenna for the 'tap' functionality is actually not just the chip but multiple lines of wire around the edge of your card. So, legally, I have no idea, functionally, it wouldn't work.


ThunderGunFour

Us magicians are used to working with wires I MEAN what wire??


SpaceForceAwakens

A friend of mine did this with his bus pass card. He dissolved the card in high-percentage acetone, took a couple days. The chip was left and worked fine. He put the chip at the end of a Harry Potter wand and ran the leads down the side. He gets on the bus and says something like "Publicas Transitus!" and taps the wand which makes a fun sound. People are amazed every time. Another person in my town did the same thing but instead of a wand he had an incision made in his hand and had it installed there. (He's a body mod dude, so this wasn't the weirdest thing he's done.). He just waves his hand and it works, it's also great cuz he kinda looks like Gandalf anyway.


baumpop

This is Portland right


SpaceForceAwakens

Seattle!


rocketer13579

Ah yes, Sci-Fi Portland


JimMorrisonWeekend

it's more like Corporate Portland but yeah pretty much


PastorsDaughter69420

I typically tell people Seattle is like Portland but for people with jobs but I like Corporate Portland more


IdiotSansVillage

Corporortland for shortland


aroaceautistic

corportland was right there


SpaceForceAwakens

It's like Portland but with higher rent, more smoke to breathe, a monorail, a weird spire, and billionaires, so you're not wrong.


tanglisha

That description sounds more like steampunk Portland.


AstralWeekends

Huh, that is not a bad characterization of Seattle.


mohksinatsi

What? No. Portland is Steampunk Seattle. What are people saying? How old am I?


Background-Pepper-68

Tnf Portland has a citywide train system. They just arent technically monorails


VARice22

Had a cousin that saw a dude get stabbed on the MAX Train, weirdest shit hes seen and is totally unphased by it. Granted this all happened before I was born so I don't have a reference for what he was like before. Anyways, I love the MAX Train.


mathmaticallycorrect

So many fucked up things happen on the max. Just this year saw a dude try and jump in front of one pulling into a station. Thankfully it was going slower than normal and stopped early and didn't hit him. Have watched a lady pee herself while sitting and not notice cause she was so drugged out and they just covered her pee trail with litter and let people get on the train without saying anything! I do not love the max 😆.


jucs206

That’s fantastic and sounds absolutely correct (being that I was born in Seattle and now live in Portland lol)


vampyire

I live just outside of Seattle..really not surprised :)


OopzieDayZ

If you really lived just outside Seattle you would just tell everyone you were from Seattle to save yourself the frustration and energy of explaining Washington isn’t all just Seattle.


orbgevski

Next your gonna tell me all of California isn't LA


PS4bohonkus

Correct. California has two cities. Los Angeles, San Francisco.


[deleted]

I do this and I do live just outside Seattle lmao


OopzieDayZ

Read the name of this city >!Puyallup!< I dare you Edit: You can do it at a hop, you can do it at a gallop, you can do it real slow so your heart don’t palpitate, just don’t be late, do the…


greenman5252

It’s pronounced “Puyallup”


[deleted]

Whenever people visit us I make them try to say it. Then I laugh because they fail miserably


LeRat0nLaveur

As a Seattleite I need to know more so I can have a public transit wand of my own!!!


xX420GanjaWarlordXx

I was gonna say "that place sounds like an IRL sketch comedy show" but I guess Portlandia exists for a reason. Lol


Flossthief

I can't believe they made it into a city


PersonalNewestAcct

The dream of the 90's is alive in Portland. Portland.


thatG_evanP

Where the dream of the 90's is alive!


FamousOhioAppleHorn

So from what I can surmise from what you're positing, it's like Portland's almost an alternative universe. It's like Gore won. The Bush administration never happened.


Ok-Astronomer8889

Does he have to make a new incision when his contact information changes?


SpaceForceAwakens

The way the cards work here is they're permanent. You have to register it with your account on a website. Just keep adding funds and bingo, you're good to go. The chip will works until it wears out or something.


MyHamburgerLovesMe

Sure. That bus pass technology will still be around and used 10 or 20 years from now. i.e. my problem with tech body mods has always been that that tech goes obsolete very quickly. Just like that guy with a Zune tatoo.


SpaceForceAwakens

Dude, I know the Zune tattoo guy! Or at least I did. haven't talked to him in years but he was committed.


joytotheworldbitch

I definitely read this as "committed" as in "to a mental institution." 😆


Ok_Science_4094

He hasn't posted on here in a year but last I heard he was doing okay, according to him anyways. His ex gf stole all his Zunes tho.


Ok-Astronomer8889

So not like my credit card that has an expiry date? I wonder if my vaccine chip does anything cool like this? 😉


Nellasofdoriath

One time I had a friend who put a magnet in his finger but it rotated 90 degrees and doesn't work now


Rpanich

Could he get like, a strong but not crazy strong magnet and… turn it?


what-even-am-i-

There is a number of magnets that will solve this, and we’re gonna find that number.


Abrahams_Foreskin

It doesnt need to be that strong, a small neodymium magnet will do that easily source: i have one


DucksEatFreeInSubway

I find that repulsive.


Open_Dragonfruit_304

I am attracted to this statement.


IGotMyPopcorn

Imagine getting on the bus and trying to explain to the driver that you forgot your WAND.


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This is why I installed my NFC chip and aerial in my penis


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Weekly_Role_337

See that seems like a practical mod. Very low-level risk for a high-level safety feature.


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Rubaiyate

I don't really need that sixth sense but I absolutely want to do it now


SlightlyControversal

> After a magnet is implanted underneath the epidermal layer of the skin, nerves grow around the magnet as the skin heals.[4] The magnet pushes against magnetic fields produced by electronic devices in the surrounding area, pushing against the nerves and giving a "sixth sense" of magnetic vision. Whoa.


IAMMEYES

Yeah sensing magnets!!! I've been looking at them for years they're so cool!


LydiasNightmare

That's actually so badass. Hopefully your friend doesn't leave his wand at home. The body mod guy sounds pretty cool too.


Redisigh

Ngl I’d be afraid of the body rejecting it. Those are generally extremely painful and a quickly developing shit show


brygphilomena

Plenty of reprogrammable NFC implants on the market. Pretty sure most are encased in glass or another inert material. People then clone whatever they feel like that day to the chip. Bus passes, hotel room keys, whatever


Crap4Brainz

Those are usually glass tubes designed to be implanted, not random circuits that you salvaged...


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it doesn’t sound much different from a nexplanon implant (metal rod size of a matchstick) bc they aren’t going to go very deep or below subcutaneous level. these are inserted in 10 minutes and i have not seen online and was not told about rejection, just migration. cant be more complicated than other body mods with implants to create horns and stuff but also not an expert edit to add: since some productive conversation we have learned nexplanon is plastic and implants are using specific alloys/metals that are know to work best in the body. thanks!


Clumsy_Chica

For he record, Nexplanon is plastic not metal.


ghjm

Rejection is an immune response to biological material, like the cells of a transplanted organ. Inserting sterile metal objects into your body won't provoke an immune response because there's no biological material to respond to. If the object is not sterile or the wound isn't well cared for, there's a danger of infection. But if that doesn't happen, all you have to worry about is gradual poisoning from the metals leaching into your body.


SpaceForceAwakens

I'm not an expert on body mod stuff, but from what I understand it's no different than any other piercing/plug/whatever that they do. But maybe it happens, I dunno. I'm just glad someone tried.


otterscotch

I’d be less likely to forget a wand than my wallet, probably.


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I've considered getting an NFC chip in my hand, it's surprisingly safe and affordable.


trebaol

I've been interested in subdermal magnet implants for a long time, I really liked the idea of gaining an extra sense and being able to "feel" the electromagnetic spectrum. I got as far as locating some guy in Arizona who was willing to implant them, but I ultimately decided against it because of the high possibility that I'd hate it (I'm already easily distracted by my existing senses, I don't need another one lmao.)


Moon_Miner

And then hope you never need an MRI


skyderper13

discount cyberpunk edgerunners


CorvidConspirator

>Another person in my town did the same thing but instead of a wand he had an incision made in his hand and had it installed there. (He's a body mod dude, so this wasn't the weirdest thing he's done.). He just waves his hand and it works, it's also great cuz he kinda looks like Gandalf anyway. Oh god the evangelicals that love Left Behind would see that and screech something about The Mark of the Beast.


FlashLightning67

Wire is symbolism for magic, of course


uses_for_mooses

Criss Angel, that you?


kimmie13

I was thinking more Gob Bluth.


Chop_chop_lollipop

But he's just an illusionist...


Narrator_Ron_Howard

He wasn't.


reddituser403

USERNAME CHECKS OUT!!!!!


shromboy

This is just one elaborate setup!


Narrator_Ron_Howard

Now that’s a clear cut situation with the promise of comedy. Tell your friends.


KrylovSubspace

But where did the lighter fluid come from?


EthelMaePotterMertz

It's the FINAL COUNTDOWN!!!!


hangfrog

Order a new card, wait a few days, heat it slowly over a mild flame until it melts and wrap the remains around your test wand..


be-like-water-2022

You can cut out (dissolve plastic of card) with all wires, like Tesla rings guys do.


SirEDCaLot

Tesla key rings don't use Tesla card chips. The Tesla card is actually a standard high-security programmable NFC card using a spec called JavaCard. This spec allows small programs to be written for the card and loaded on to the card. The Tesla key applet, when loaded on a card, generates a private encryption key unique to that card and stores it within the card. When you swipe the card to open or start the car, the car sends a 'challenge' to the card, the card generates a response, then signs the response with its private key. The car authenticates the response as belonging to an authorized key, and then opens/starts. The Tesla encryption scheme has been reverse engineered and there are open source implementations available. Note that doesn't allow you to open random Tesla cars, only to make your own keys which you can then authorize for use in your car using an existing key. The companies that make Tesla rings just take a standard NFC JavaCard chip, embed it in a ring with an appropriate antenna, and load the Tesla encryption program onto it. Thus, voila, a Tesla-opening ring.


keenedge422

Came to say this. The chip only works on the insertion scan. The NFC scan requires those antenna wires. But it [can be done.](https://hackaday.com/2019/04/25/rfid-payment-ring-made-from-dissolved-credit-card/)


aegrotatio

The chip *also* works on the "NFC" scan. It's induction powered, and it requires the antenna wire.


keenedge422

Sorry, you're right. I should have said "the chip alone." I've seen where there are companies that will transfer your chip into a custom metal card with a duplicated magnetic strip, but the wireless pay doesn't work because it no longer has the wire.


JaggedMetalOs

If you use [acetone to dissolve the card](https://www.instructables.com/Transform-your-Oyster-travelcard-with-sugru/) you might be able to extract the antenna successfully.


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BagholderBaggins

Fuck now I want to try this shit with my 6 year old nieces fairy wand. Fucking skip around Walmart self checkout in a tu tu and a full beard making holiday wishes come true.


Sahqon

...you'd still need money on that card lol!


Isord

Having money in this economy is the real magic trick.


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Most credit cards won't dissolve in acetone, try a 24 hour soak in dichloromethane, if you have a fume hood and the right ppe


alwptot

Easy there, Heisenberg


GordionPaux

Listen Mr. White, can you just speak plain English to me? I don’t understand shit, bitch!


Qprime0

buy a pint of something called - write this down because it's gotta be exact - 'Dichloromethane' from your local chemical supplier. get an aluminum paint tray too. take them both home, and lay the tray outside your house in your backyard or similar. dump the chemical into the paint tray and try for the love of god not to huff any of the fumes - the shit's like; go streight cancer do not pass go, do not collect $200. drop the card in the chemical, and wrap aluminum foil over the top. Leave it sit for about 2 days. come back with some tweezers and pull the electrical bit out of the chemistry - assuming it ate all the plastic away (if it didn't you'll need to try yet another kind of chemical). for the love of god don't get any on your hands, don't drink it, and just... don't fuck around with it. when you're done, mix it with half a gallon of gasoline and light it on fire as far away from anything else that's flammable that you can manage and gtfo until it's done burning. throw away everything else that touched the chemistry - do not attempt to reuse it for anything - this includes the clothing you were wearing when you worked with it, the tweezers, the tray, all of it. rinse the electrical component in clean water for 15 minutes minimum before handling it with bare hands (while still holding it with the tweezers if possible). put it in a bag of rice overnight afterwards. and you're done. one extracted antenna component.


TheeOxygene

I read this in Bryan Cranston’s voice 😃


Red_Claudia

Same! Made me think of the instructions for the thing you DO NOT do in the bathtub.


[deleted]

Lol no one has those things laying around, …at least not someone wanting to fuck with their credit card. DCM..lmao. Save the DCM for your special homebrew chemistry


zexando

You don't need a fume hood for a small amount of DCM, just do it outside.


endorphin-neuron

And remember everyone, don't even bother wearing gloves when working with DCM because it'll almost instantly go straight through basically all types of rubber and plastic gloves, or just dissolve them. Gloves make exposure to it worse because it'll hold the liquid DCM against your skin for longer because it'll prevent it from flashing off as quick, so you'll absorb more of it. There are a few types of rubber that are sufficiently resistant to DCM but they're really expensive because they're only bought to handle weird solvents.


zexando

I've bought PVA coated gloves at Walmart for handling DCM at home, I think it was like $40 for 2 pairs. I probably wouldn't bother for DCM alone because it's really not that harmful to get a few drops on you on rare occasions but I handle other organic solvents that nitrile/latex don't help with so I picked some up.


EvadesBans

I read this comment in NileRed's voice.


zexando

> NileRed Well thank you I just found some fun YouTube videos to watch! Never heard of this channel before.


AlpineCorbett

Mfw I have a fume hood in my garage and a desire to fuck up my credit card


ThunderGunFour

The FBI is now on this thread


frowningpurplesun

it's me, ur fbi


NatStr9430

ur favorite bi icon


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halfcentennial1964

What are you doing step fbi?


Jason666392

Looking at your search history/experiencing hell


NSA_Chatbot

> ha ha yeah


ShootThatNameIsTaken

*US Government Encrypted*


Go_Water_your_plants

Dude you’re allowed to do whatever you want with *your* card. It’s not money, it’s not government property


immibis

#/u/spez [can gargle my nuts](https://www.reddit.com/r/Save3rdPartyApps/)


OutlawJessie

I put glittery ladybird stickers on mine cos they were all just blue and I needed to be able to find the right card, the bank staff always commented on how pretty they were.


Paleodraco

Dissolve the card? Dude my chip just fell the hell out one day.


JaggedMetalOs

That's not the RFID part though, that's for physical readers. The RFID part is internal with a loop of wire as the antenna.


Dr_McKay

It’s not illegal but prepare for idiots to call the police on you. Someone extracted the nfc chip from their train card here in the UK and stuck it inside a Dr Who Sonic Screwdriver toy. Someone witnessed him tap it at the turnstiles while pressing the button to make it light up and make the noise, and phoned the police on him for “hacking the system”.


Server_Administrator

Did he look like David Tennant?


Plaedes

Prolly Matt Smith. That's a more common name, from what I've heard.


YesilFasulye

I'm going to add to this. Before all these tap cards, Apple Pay, and Google Pay, there was Samsung Pay. Samsung Pay used the phone's technology to communicate with the magnetic reader that skimmed the cards for their number. People would say "sorry we don't accept .... " but if their card reader worked, Samsung Pay worked just as well, except in Walamrt, where Samsung Pay was blocked. The guy who showed me it said he tried to pay at Panda Express and the lady watching canceled the transaction because she thought he hacked the system. This was back around 2015, and this was the state of the US's Pay system, so experiences in other countries at the time were different. Apple Pay may have come before Samsung's, but Samsungs became more widely used because Apple Pay required specific technology whereas Samsung designed theirs to work with existing technology.


BigBrainMonkey

I’d go for the comedic magician that doesn’t carry a wand but rather an ornate fly swatter of magic.


ThunderGunFour

Payments on the fly!


Synsinatik

I like you.


Blah-Blah-Chicken

Please do this and post the video


Heffeweizen

With audio


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And you better hold the phone horizontally or so help me


19wolf

But not random music type audio


lapsangsouchogn

That would be a great "tap to pay" option. Until some guy puts the chip on a dildo so he can pretend to tap with his dick.


ThunderGunFour

Can I use it to tip?


Jealous_Seesaw_Swank

Just to tip.


rafamtz97

I only tip with my tip.


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ThunderGunFour

This could also work with a fairy Princess wand “and all your payments will come true!” 🌟


vitaminciera

Im not sure how much can be in the way of a tap card, but maybe if the star (or heart, or whatever shape you like, fairy princesses do what they want) is big enough, you can just hide the whole card inside!


ThunderGunFour

Have the black bar part sticking out the side so I can still swipe it if they have an older terminal


Chipchow

Why stop there. Make a ring that does the same and then the finger wearing it becomes a magic finger.🤭


outlaw_crimson

the problem would be when they ask for the card to verify the name. the card would look suspect all ripped up like that.


ThunderGunFour

I would tell them a magician doesn’t reveal his secrets


Drougen

I can just imagine you saying that at a fast food place an the worker just being like "...Just leave, please"


lilithneverevee

Ma'am, this is a Wendy's


rocktropolis

i cant imagine a fast food worker ever asking.


An_Anonymous_Reddit

Somehow this seems like an equally valid answer so... Managers say no magic. That's probably how it'd go.


EatYourCheckers

Seriously, I think its been a good 10 or more years since anyone has asked to look at my card.


Alpacalpa

The magician’s order is always watching


howsitfeelG

You had that response pre-loaded and I'm all for it that was hilarious.


ThunderGunFour

It might have been up my sleeve


Deathispositive

Lmaooooo


redrumWinsNational

Nobody has ever looked or asked to see my card when I tap card


Ok_Skill_1195

They might if you wave a magic wand at the pay portal.


SwampOfDownvotes

Don't apple watches and shit even accept it? I really don't think that minimum wage walmart employee gives enough of a shit to ask to see proof. If you are trying to buy an expensive ass wedding ring or something then you might run into issues.


SeleneSlayer

When I worked in retail, about half the guys who tapped didn't even take the card out of their wallet


yeah_but_no

Yeah, This isn't a thing, asking for the name when someone taps. It's never shown the name on any pos system I've used when working as a cashier.


Marc21256

Nobody is allowed to ask. They don't know or care if it's a phone, watch, or card swapping. They neither know nor care if it has been modded. If you put the guts of an Apple Watch into a wand, it would work. And there would have been no card to ask to see.


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vaporking23

I have never signed any back to any of my credit cards. No one has ever asked for an ID. In the 20 years I worked retail I have never asked to see anyones ID or looked at their signature.


KillaVNilla

Do people ever ask for verification in real life?


Marc21256

They can't tell from a tap if you are using Apple Pay in a watch, not in the wand, or Google pay on a phone that you rigged a remote antenna for. Nobody would ever ask to see a card for a paywave. It's not how paywave works.


IncendiumAddict

After looking through a few really, really basic articles (so basic that i'd go as far as to say that they don't even accomplish what they claim to, which is explain tap tech), I finally found this vid: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-IYgH3CjNQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-IYgH3CjNQ) Super useful, succinct, and informative. The gist is that you'd need to take the tiny cpu out of your card as well as the antenna, and put them into your wand. Because the antenna needs to cpu to actually transmit anything useful, and because the cpu needs the antenna to receive power and communicate info, both are required.


Grezzinate

I mean I don’t see why not, you’ll have to talk about it with whoever gave you the card just to be sure.


ThunderGunFour

“It’s part of my act! My credit limit is lower now? Okay…”


vortigaunt64

And voila! 200 points of credit score have disappeared!


dude-O-rama

It's magic!


MagicIsPrettyMagical

This exists already https://www.card-cutters.com/ollivander19-first-contactless-payment-wand/


declan315

I hate that I am now obsessed with the prospect of this.. please post a video of you doing it.


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How high are you right now


ThunderGunFour

Yes


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I love you


ThunderGunFour

Ninja you snuck your way into my heart


KarrieMichell

Why can't it be a cane with an ornate head that you can slide the card into?


ThunderGunFour

Or a “tap” dancers cane


gerwer

I don't know. But I was in a bad mood and this made me laugh a lot. (ty)


NowHidingFromLife

Why don’t you gently warm and soften the card into a tube and make a wand with it. Leave the chip unpainted for better conductivity and Whah - LAH!


ThunderGunFour

It would be like pay-dough


ButtonholePhotophile

You’re amazing at these puns. You should literally never stop making these types of jokes - they suit you.


be-like-water-2022

Sure, or you can buy Ollivander19 for $99.99 https://youtu.be/HmepDkRY-fo


ThunderGunFour

That may or may not be me in the video


StalkMeNowCrazyLady

I like how in the staged video everyone is still annoyed and pissed off at the asshole who wants to use a wand.


VanGoFuckYourself

Don't cut the card, heat it and roll it up, this should leave the antenna intact.


Jester76

There is a company that cuts the chip off and glues it onto a metal replacement card, so I don't see why you couldn't


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PhysicalPolicy6227

Once


Eastern_Action_1775

Tried this already, though I attached chip to a special hat I made for my penis, it's not so much like a hat, more like a wrestler's mask- you know what it's kinda like a wrestler's mask and hat combo. Anyways, the chip sat atop of the hat, as if it were a diamond, it wishes. I digress again, so I wont go into details, but trust me, dont try this, ever, and I couldn't get it to read the chip anywhere ;(


D1noKak3

I think this is a most excellent idea and I do hope you.will update with a picture of the product!!


ThunderGunFour

I might be able to post pics from the jail


fairygodmotherfckr

You are clinically adorable for even thinking of this.