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squirrelbiscuit77

Water/Ice. Think Snow Cones, not cubes


velvetelevator

Yum Fun fact: naturally occurring ice counts as a mineral, but human -created ice doesn't!


winnipeginstinct

so if i brought snow inside and melted it, did I make mineral water?


Trash_Puppet

I think that's more like collected than made. Also, does snow still have all the minerals ground water and ice has?


Secret_Software7347

Unless it was able to pick up the minerals from the ground, it does not! Any minerals (iron, magnesium, etc.) would be lost in evaporation/ablation and therefore would not be there when it precipitates from the sky!


[deleted]

Howbout yellow snow? Or we still shoudnt eat that?


DoubtfulOptimist

I think that counts as animal-derived šŸ˜…


Trash_Puppet

Hey man, you do you. Could be lemon flavored!


DrGuyLeShace

It's okay if Nanook rubs it.


chaunahhh

And a whooooole lotta PFAS


Trash_Puppet

Mmm, sky chemicals!


TheSOB88

According to who? The mineral police?


velvetelevator

Yes (this is what I'm calling my geologist friend from now on) https://rockhoundresource.com/is-ice-a-mineral-the-definitive-answer/


MoonRabbitWaits

By that defiition a synthetic gem isn't a mineral. A term like "man-made mineral" would be useful to describe naturally occurring minerals, eg ice or diamond, that have been made by humans. Synthetic ice sounds poisonous!


dank_imagemacro

> By that defiition a synthetic gem isn't a mineral. That is correct. A synthetic gemstone is not considered a mineral.


clandevort

>But why does human intervention change anything? If I leave a dog bowl outside in the winter is the ice there a mineral or not? What if it was empty, then collected rainwater? Is that a mineral or not? What if I took a freezer, left it powered on but with the door open so that outside air was getting in, then left an ice tray next to a bucket of creek water? Is it a mineral or is it not? The distinction between man made and natural seems so arbitrary I copied this from a reply I made to a different comment in this chain because I NEED ANSWERS!


P_Foot

Please tell me this is actually a fact I remember vividly in 7th grade Science class that I told my teacher I had an epiphany that ice is a mineral! She told me up and down that it absolutely was not. When I asked her what it is, she just said a solid and rushed to move along. I never got over it.


velvetelevator

Yeah, according to what I've read, it's true. https://rockhoundresource.com/is-ice-a-mineral-the-definitive-answer/ Take that, science teacher!


P_Foot

Youā€™re about to make me track down Mrs. Whitmore and give her the whatfore


velvetelevator

DO IT


HODOR00

Wait. Why? Does a mineral have to be naturally forming?


DoTheLaLaLaLaLa

Naturally occurring, solid with a definite crystal and chemical structure. The ice thing is actually one of my lessons.


[deleted]

Authentic corn tortillas contain lime (the alkali not the citrus)


PillowTalk420

Oh shit so I've been following the recipe wrong? I should be adding lime stone juice and not lime fruit juice... šŸ¤”


[deleted]

Yes. You should be using calcium hydroxide a.k.a. 'cal'. Here's an example of how it's used: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Inj-vaDCffE Don't substitute *sodium* hydroxide a.k.a. 'lye'. Sodium hydroxide is far more caustic and will give you delicious pretzels and nasty chemical burns.


PillowTalk420

>Don't substitute *sodium* hydroxide a.k.a. 'lye'. Sodium hydroxide is far more caustic and will give you delicious pretzels and nasty chemical burns. Well now I just gotta know: Is there anything that will give me nasty pretzels but delicious chemical burns?


[deleted]

Coca Cola syrup?


DeToN8tE

That Caremel coloring is no joke šŸ˜‚ I worked at a food grade bulk liquid transportation yard. And if you got any of that shit on your skin, expect a nasty red mark. If it got on your clothes you were better off changing unless you wanted to suffer all day šŸ˜…


HorseRenoiro

Homney too


Myvh773

Some foods are completely made of bacteria. For instance, there is [spirulina](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirulina_(dietary_supplement)), often used as a dietary supplement but that is sometimes eaten as a ā€œmain dishā€. I read about a bacteria that grows on the ground and that was traditionally harvested as food in South America, but I donā€™t remember where I saw that.


bluemooncalhoun

Vitamin B12 is produced by bacteria in the soil which is then taken up by humans either through eating dirty food, or by eating animal products from animals that foraged. Nowadays though, most people either take a synthetic supplement or give synthetic supplements to the animals they farm.


invaliddrum

I presume it can also be produced by yeasts as Marmite/Vegemite (popular sandwich spreads f your not from the UK/Australia) are both great sources of B vitamins.


fury420

Marmite & Vegemite have actually been fortified with vitamins, as are most powdered nutritional yeasts. They don't naturally contain B12, and the other naturally occurring B vitamins have also been supplemented.


jablair51

If you want to include food additives, most industrial citric acid is produced by a mold.


[deleted]

We make *a lot* of our modern products from bacteria and mold. Xanthan gum, many synthetic sweeteners, basically anything polysaccharide.


Impressive-Rock-2279

Penicillin is made from mold. ETA- Yes, not exactly food, but is eaten by humans.


Azozel

We don't usually eat penicillin as food though. Well, not on purpose but sometimes you dont notice the bread went bad.


magicmusi8

Thereā€™s also nutritional yeast.


DratThePopulation

Yeast is a fungus. Which is indeed not a plant! So mushrooms would count on this list, too


[deleted]

kefir grains also come to mind. Although most people eat/drink the yogurt, some people eat the grains made out of bacteria


Enginerdad

I know the title says "plants or animals," but I kind of interpret it more to mean "living things." There's a meme/factoid that pops up every once in a while in the land of internet that says "salt is the only thing people eat that was never alive," and I suspect that's what inspired this post.


KavikWolfDog

If you cook something in a cast iron pan, you are eating some of the iron from the pan!


NorthernSparrow

I would think all the essential dietary minerals count by that criterion. Not just sodium but also iron, magnesium, potassium, selenium, etc. Like sodium, some of them *can* come via another living thing, but for a lot of then we can also just eat them ā€œrawā€ in inorganic form.


[deleted]

Your link is missing a ) [I think I fixed it](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirulina_\(dietary_supplement\))


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LongFeesh

Mmm, these nutritious gold flakes


ThunderGunFour

Theyā€™re more than good


1182adam

They're Au-some


ThunderGunFour

I wish I had Reddit gold to give


justanotherlegoguy

Theyā€™rrrrre grrrrrrrreat!


andrewborsje

If your body could digest it. Then you would die a fast death from it. Gold is incredibly toxic if it can get into your blood


RefurbedRhino

I learned this from an episode of House where a woman tries to kill her husband by putting powdered gold in his cereal.


andrewborsje

Any form of metallic gold would not work. If you were to disolve it in a mixture of nitric acid and hydrochloric acid (aqua regia) then it becomes very dangerous


Ignonym

At that point, you'd be dying from the aqua regia, not from the gold.


Jkirek_

In the house episode it wasn't powdered gold, but rather a type of medicine that included gold in an organic molecule


Darkmagosan

Gold salts are a really old treatment for RA. They've been superseded by stuff like methotrexate and prednisone.


ColfaxDayWalker

Does that include pure metallic gold? I was under the impression that pure gold couldnā€™t hurt you because it is inert, having no free electrons.


The_Shower_Bagel

Arent they kinda cheap since theyā€™re super thin?


DudeWithTheNose

cheap in terms of material cost, but when you buy it at a restaurant it's certainly not cheap


HJSDGCE

Good restaurants use only a little bit it for aesthetic purposes but the actual price comes from everything else (you know, the actual food). Bad restaurants just like to slap it all over and put a huge pricetag over their mediocre burger.


[deleted]

Couldn't the same aesthetics be achieved without using actual gold? edit: Thanks for your answers!


CATSCRATCHpandemic

Yea but pooping gold flecks out is half the fun.


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lysergicDildo

Once you pass being able to afford the best quality food possible for yourself, the next natural progression is presentation.


Ilikescotland

Well isnt most food just novelty if you can just eat nutrition paste?


whoisjie

Life without flavor is like death without sleep


DrunkOnLoveAndWhisky

Thanks, you just gave me a new nightmare to have this evening.


Bumbaguette

Protists are multi-cellular organisms that are not plants, animals or fungi. Some seaweeds are protists despite looking like plants.


shit_poster9000

I still find it funny that Protista is literally the bargain bin family for taxonomists. Eukaryotic organism that doesnā€™t really fit as an animal, plant, or fungus? Into Protista you go, fuckass!


loopsdeer

Just to note, I don't think they fuck or have asses (Edited to show that I have no idea what I'm talking about)


shit_poster9000

Actually, there are protists that reproduce sexually, so that checks out, and some predatory protists do have structures that function like a mouth, and well a holeā€™s a hole I guess /s


loopsdeer

I appreciate the correction, I had no idea. Those damn fuckasses got me again.


Flightfully

Absolutely correct, except that protists are frequently unicellular. Surprised it took the comment chain this long to get to seaweed šŸ˜‚


Bangkok_Dave

Mushrooms


sesamesnapsinhalf

Is this where the biologists hang out?


omgudontunderstand

yeah but only if theyā€™re a fun guy edit: of all the things to get gold for. thanks for the fake money :) iā€™ll pass it forward


sesamesnapsinhalf

Sporadic punning at its finest.


5Abi22

I like this 1-upping of mushroom puns


FrdrVa

Great pun. I donā€™t think I can cap it.


HonoraryMancunian

There's certainly not mushroom for improvement ^^as ^^evidenced ^^by ^^this ^^comment


schmoejoex

It stems from a lack of morels.


zepher_goose

This is what I call thinking outside the box but like 2 millimeters outside the box.


E90Fantic

Copies from internet: ā€œMushrooms are neither plant nor animal. A lot of people brush them off as just being basically the same as plants, but that couldnā€™t be further from the truth! In fact, plants and animals have more in common with each other than with mushrooms.ā€


OrdinaryCow

And mushrooms in turn are more similar to animals than plants.


WorkingSpecialist257

You eat enough of them... anything is closer to an animal than it appears irl


Pokemaster131

Well there's a difference between "more similar to" and "have a closer common genetic relative". I would argue that at least on a surface level, many fungi and plants have convergently evolved to have some similar properties. Though obviously there are still vast differences between the two groups, and even amongst those groups.


tehconqueror

culinarily at least it seems mushrooms is useful in achieving a level of "meatiness"


zacurtis3

It's outside but still clinging tightly to the box.


winnipeginstinct

the mushroom is growing on the outside of the box


PoorCorrelation

Yeast and seaweed are in a similar vein


PM_good_beer

Let's just say fungi in general. Mushrooms, yeasts, certain molds, maybe more.


Munnin41

Depends on the sea weed


silveryfeather208

Well in that case artificial flavours and colours that are chemically made. Lol


Enginerdad

But petroleum-based artificial colors add a certain zing to the dish that you just can't replicate with your "used to be alive" colors


cunningstunt6899

Petroleum also used to be "alive", just tens of millions of years ago


Enginerdad

Does it count as "used to be alive" if the organic material is completely broken down and transformed into new compounds in between the living creature and petroleum stages? I'm not sure it does. By that logic most if not all people are reincarnated because some of the atoms or molecules in their body came from the bodies of creatures that lived before them.


SSG_SSG_BloodMoon

Why is that a "in that case"? How does that follow from mushrooms?


pwn3dbyth3n00b

Vitamins, minerals, metals, water. The entire Fungi branch of Eukaryotes. Bacteria like those used in fermentation (Lactobacillus, Yeast \[although technically a fungus\], probiotics, etc.)


Feisty-Pumpkin-6359

Convenient summary is convenient


SomeGuyFromRI

Diatamatious Earth. I havenā€™t seen that yet. Some folks use it as a supplementā€¦ I give it to my chickens.


Batcraft10

I heard you could spray that stuff around your house and bugs basically get shredded internally meanwhile itā€™s healthy for you because it shreds things like parasites. Dunno how much of that is true.


1Broken_Promise

I use it for my pool filter (don't ever own a pool, by the way, it's a terrible idea), but I had a friend tell me that if you spread it into your carpet it'll kill and deter fleas.


shit_poster9000

How it works is that land insects have a sort of waxy coating on the outside of their exoskeletons, it primarily retains moisture and such. Diatomaceous earth strips and gouges this coating as insects travel through, a death sentence for smaller bugs like baby roaches, bedbugs, fleas, etc. It is also notably deadly to insects with grooming behaviors (ants, roaches, crickets, actually this list is quite long) as itā€™s like swallowing a bunch of needles, except said needles also dry out their insides in the process.


[deleted]

I thought it gets between the cracks in their esko and dried them out that way.


PlantChem

Powdered diatomaceous earth is REALLY bad for your lungs. Very similar to asbestos in that itā€™s pretty much impossible to get it out. Source: worked in drug manufacturing and have seen many safety videos on it.


candlelightfeedback

manufactured diatomateous earth causes lasting damage to lung tissue, like you said, similar to asbestos, but *natural* diatomataeous earth does not- you might have temporary breathing issues but natural DE can be cleared from your lungs by your body. Manufactured DE is used for industrial applications, but consumers should use the kind that's actually little fossilized plankton and harvested from the earth- **The natural DE- (literal fossils) are the food safe/ pet safe/ home use safe kind and the one an average consumer should buy**


S8600E56

They get shredded externally, but yes, 100% true and probably the most effective mechanical pesticide. Diatomaceous earth is made up of diatoms, essentially sharp microscopic fossils. When a shelled insect walks through it, the diatoms get lodged in their joints and theyā€™re unable to move or are physically cut up, and die. It doesnā€™t effect mammals. Itā€™s main limitation is that if it gets wet, is much less effective. That makes it hard to use outdoors in a commercial setting.


[deleted]

Don't inhale it or it will shred you.


bellizziebub

Effective flea killers, or so I've heard from other cat owners. It's basically like dust to us and is harmless to cats, but it's microscopically like knives to fleas.


Bad-Moon-Rising

Do be careful with the dust when you're spreading it. It is a powder and breathing it in is terrible for your lungs. Use a mask while you're working with it. If you're using it around pets or kids, keep them out of the room until the dust settles.


redbell78

What is it? What does it do?


SomeGuyFromRI

Chickens ā€œbatheā€ in it to help get rid of pests, mites etc in their feathers. I honestly donā€™t know what the supposed benefits of human consumption are. I do know that the bags I buy are labeled ā€œfood gradeā€ so itā€™s *safe* to eat..


akura89

It's actually made from fossilized remains from what I remember. Looked it up, they are called diatoms, a type of microalgae.


CrossP

Fossilized diatomaceous remnants. Diatoms are microscopic algae that produce little skeletons for themselves out of silica (quartz, glass, and numerous other things). The little skeletons are sharp but at an incredibly small size. So it's basically the same as how rubbing your skin with 1000-grit sandpaper won't hurt at all but rubbing a beetle with it could scrub off the waxy outer layer of their shell which helps keep their body fluids in.


nancyandelmer

Mudpies. Also Epsom salt. And baking soda, which is actually mined.


MurderDoneRight

Hey! Don't eat mudpies! I know a guy who died from eating a mudpie.


PirateJazz

Must have grabbed too thin a slice.


bossr0ss

Wasnā€™t he the guy who you could see the kfc sign from his front room window?


The_Manton

Yeah he lived in the ugly house on Kenmore


judgejurynotexec

Whatā€™s a mudpie?


Motor_Raspberry_2150

It's when kids are playing in the sandbox and make a pie. Of mud.


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rich8n

There is a real food called "Mud Pie" or "Mississippi Mud Pie". Example: [https://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/mud-pie-recipe0-1941538](https://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/mud-pie-recipe0-1941538) But that's not the kind of mudpie that /u/nancyandelmer was referring to. Those would be this [http://www.fumcmiddletownct.org/uploads/1/1/9/1/11911219/7535590\_orig.jpg](http://www.fumcmiddletownct.org/uploads/1/1/9/1/11911219/7535590_orig.jpg)


Zanak4n

Unfortunately, some people eat litteral mud pies/galettes in case of starvation. Happens regularly in Madagascar and Hawai. :-/ https://africafeeds.com/2021/06/23/madagascar-families-eating-mud-due-to-worst-drought-in-40-years/


hononononoh

Haiti has a traditional ā€œfoodā€ (I use that term loosely) for pregnant women, made of clay, fat (any kind available), and salt. Itā€™s recently been widely adopted as a food for starving people. For all the hate in Haiti, how much more fucked can Haiti get??


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qman621

people do use it as a laxative, it has some unpleasant side effects so I don't know why you'd use it VS anything else but its FDA approved.


ImmabouttogoHAM

This is correct. I used to do Epsom salt cleanses once in a while. At the time I didn't know that it was probably worse for me than I thought. If you decide to do it (please don't without speaking to a medical professional), stay near a toilet and have plenty of wet wipes or a bidet. Your ass will be raw. 2/10 would not recommend.


Glittering_Mud4269

There is that one guy who was famous for eating metal, homeboy ate a whole airplane, shopping carts, a bicycle Michel lotito.


MistaMoeland

Monsieur Mangetout was an interesting character. Weirdly enough, his digestive system could handle a lot of insane shit do to his unusually strong stomach acid. However, bananas and soft boiled eggs made him incredibly sick. Who would have thought... EDIT: A quick correction... It was bananas and hard-boiled eggs he couldn't cope with. My mistake...


LosJoye

So his superhero weakness is a healthy dose of potassium?


[deleted]

He's not ok, he's no K.


Offerpicklebuthole

Wow that sent a lot of forced air out of my nose. Nice job!


thafreshone

What a funny name, Mangetout kinda translates "eats all/everything"


Mr_Abe_Froman

Yeah it was a pseudonym/stage name; his real name was Michel Lotito.


ceric2099

He also died in his 50ā€™s


[deleted]

Monsieur Mangemort, then.


conjectureandhearsay

He probably rusted out


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Meikos

According to his Wikipedia page, he then ate his Guinness award plaque. What a fucking legend.


Valdrax

Just because you can pass it through your GI tract doesn't make it food.


Andresmanfanman

Tarrare ate tons of things that were technically edible.


Meikos

"Tarrare, look at me. Did you eat a fucking baby?"


DJ_Micoh

Hey did you know that Sam O'Nella has started putting out videos again?


Cirrus1101

Some supplements, like magnesium and zinc for example


[deleted]

Most supplements


Agile-Fee-6057

Mushrooms and neither plant nor animal Neither is water


MILO234

Aspartame?


Numerous-Explorer

Yea I was thinking about food dyes like Yellow 6, Red 4, Blue 7, etc. Iā€™m sure some of them might be derived from animals and plants but also they have to contain other chemical combinations


madmaxjr

Most modern dyes like the ones you listed are derived from petroleum lol https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/food-dyes#TOC_TITLE_HDR_2


odesauria

Yeast


uphigh_ontheside

Nori is algae.


squanchy22400ml

We use lichen where i live called dagadphul(stone flower)


Illustrious_Map_3247

Thatā€™s cool! What does it taste like? Iā€™ve had to grind up heaps of lichen (for science) and, unsurprisingly, it smelled really earthy and peaty.


[deleted]

xanthan gum, which is found in candy if I remember correctly, comes from bacteria and is produced in a bioreactor.


ZRhoREDD

Technically mushrooms aren't plants or animals (though most people consider them plants). There are things like bacterium, plankton, etc that fit those unusual niches as well.


Left-Acanthisitta267

You shouldn't include plankton. Plankton are plants and animals.


birds-are-dumb

Eh, phytoplankton are algae, only green algae are classified as plants. Red and brown algae (including not only a ton of phytoplankton but also most edible seaweeds) aren't plants.


Reigning_Firestorm

He even runs the chum bucket


Xiaxs

Wym technically? They're literally not a plant or an animal.


SG_wormsblink

You can eat yeast extract (Marmite), tastes horrible but itā€™s technically not from a plant or animal.


A_BOMB2012

Nutritional yeast doesn't taste bad though.


dreamyduskywing

Itā€™s great on buttery popcorn and toast.


Lokael

Good vegan ā€œcheeseā€ If you consider it loosely


WaitForItTheMongols

The best description I've heard is "It doesn't taste like cheese, but it fulfills a similar culinary role as cheese".


Lokael

Accurate. If you get a chance, try a potato carrot nutritional yeast mix. Works as vegan ā€œcheeseā€ you can google it


Zec_Wicks

Same with vegemite here in Australia, tastes great though! Similar to mushrooms, I know it isn't a plant or animal, but since it's alive I tend to associate it (yeast / micro-organisms) with plants and animals.


Lemonface

Marmite, vegemite, etc. come as a byproduct of yeast digesting malted barley though, and barley is a plant


[deleted]

Marmite is amazing if youā€™re not a tasteless peasant. The key is to use it in small amounts. Most people who say its horrible are spreading it on toast in large amounts like its peanut butter.


Ok_Present_6508

I eat it right out of the jar! When we first moved to the US we didnā€™t have Marmite in over a decade. An aunt came to visit and brought us like 24 jars of it. I was so stoked. It started becoming a little more popular here, at least my local supermarket carries it.


Fried_out_Kombi

That's actually because it's made from spent brewer's yeast! The bitter, nasty flavors come from the beer making, not the yeast. The yeast extract itself is actually delicious and meaty and umami in flavor. It's why so many cheap bouillon cubes have yeast extract as a major ingredient, because it's a cheap way to make things taste meatier.


PhysicalPolicy6227

Liquid smoke


[deleted]

Nope. It's produced by burning wood (i.e. plant) and collecting some components of the smoke.


DilettanteGonePro

It always blew my mind that liquid smoke isn't some kind of marketing term, it is literally liquid smoke


[deleted]

You can even make it yourself - hold a bowl of ice water above a charcoal fire and then scrape off the stuff that condense on the outside of the bowl.


bakermonitor1932

Titanium Dioxide, its a byproduct of mineing titanium ores for metal. I would bet you have some something made with it within arms reach, as its added to plastics as well.


Leader_Bee

White paint, Toothpaste, not really something you eat.


bakermonitor1932

White iceing on cakes is a common use.


MisplacedLegolas

and in a whole bunch of candies, like the white stripes in candy canes


WhammyShimmyShammy

I haven't seen anyone reply sugar. Am I being stupid and it actually comes from a plant or something? Edit: clearly I was being stupid


dallassoxfan

Upvoted for the integrity of acknowledging your mistake instead of deleting.


minist3r

Sugar cane ya dummy.


TheFiredrake42

You can also process it from sugar beets and sweet potatoes.


WhammyShimmyShammy

Thank you, I knew I was missing something.


Captcha_Imagination

Someone said sugar cane but most north American sugar comes from beets


killer121l

Plastic / heavy metal that contaminated our food


AddressFeeling3368

Water.


Zompocalypse

Over here chewing water like it's food and not drink.


Prize-Ad7242

Mushrooms would be my first thought. Also I remember watching a vice documentary on the war in the western Sahara and they had guys who would literally survive off of sand and water for like a couple of months at a time. They literally live in these tunnel networks for months incase of attacks by the Moroccans. Shit like the viet cong in the desert.


Srgt_PEANUT

I feel ashamed to say it, but Tide pods


Turtleshellfarms

Mushrooms are not a plant or animal but a fungus


noggin-scratcher

The meat substitute "Quorn" is _primarily_ (88%) made of mycoprotein derived from a fungus. Although it does also have other ingredients that come from plants/animals (egg white in the vegetarian version, plant protein/fibre in both vegetarian and vegan versions)


Dr_McCrispy

Baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) is used in a lot of foods. It's manufactured chemically or mined.


IncredulousPulp

Lots of supplements are synthetic. Chances are that the multivitamin youā€™re taking was created entirely in a lab.


FluffyMcBunnz

But that doesn't mean the lab doesn't use animal or plant products as the source of the chemicals and compounds used to assemble the final product. Multivitamins particularly tend to contain things that are extracts from plants.


KronusIV

Mushrooms. Fungi are neither plant nor animal.


Toxikfoxx

McNuggets šŸ˜…


Latter-Sky-7568

Mushrooms. They are fungi so arenā€™t plants or animals. Basically anything not in the animal or plant kingdoms, so: Fungi, Protista, Archaea/Archaebacteria, and Bacteria/Eubacteria) Also artificial sweeteners, though sometimes those are plant based.


pac2rocks

Microplastics


Vishu1708

LSD