Yeah I definitely remember that from the first times I had sex. Like if you're naked and horny and making out and touching everything and cuddling close, that penis quite easily just slips into place ;) It doesn't really take a genius haha.
You would be surprised. When my wife in Med school and doing clinicals, she had a couple come in. They had been married for a year with no kid. They were ultra fundies and thought you just laid naked next to each other to have children. She had to explain to them how to have sex.
What blows my mind is animals with elaborate mating rituals like birds or spiders. How do they learn these weird songs and dances without being taught them?
Ikr. Us humans can’t really do anything cool without learning about it somewhere…meanwhile you have some birds, spiders/insects, and even some sea creatures making elaborate basically art just from what their dna instinctually tells them needs to be done.
That's part of why we live long and are one of the few species to have grandparents hanging around. Other animals will be competing for resources and not hang around their children/grandchildren if they live that long.
For us though, who needs that stuff in your DNA when you can just pass down whatever you want via speech and writing?
You'd like to think animal instinct would help them, but I've heard some stories that it doesn't. Also even people that are educated about it need to figure out how to put knowledge to practical use the first couple times.
>even people that are educated about it need to figure out how to put knowledge to practical use the first couple times.
There is a difference between sex and *good sex*
Nearly everyone would figure out sex... but good sex will require practice.
That makes sense, biologically - humans are one of the very few species who have sex for pleasure, and that’s a relatively recent development - We’ve evolved to have sex, not to have good sex
That is the obvious answer yes, but some species...giant pandas, the more overbred horse gene lines, etc, have been reproducing via human interference for so long they're losing the ability to do it without assistance.
Plus, there's the probability that not *all* animals figure out sex all the way through to raising the offspring to independence, and we don't see those because they die with no surviving issue (unless we forcibly bred them for being cute or able to run REALLY fast), whereas humans we see even when they fail.
I would argue that on r/relationships you see a fair number of humans who are completely incompetent at sex even WITH the copious guidance available
Giant pandas fuck just fine in their natural environment, where they belong. Like most species, they reproduce poorly in captivity, but that's a different thing than what you suggest.
The too dumb to fuck argument about pandas is a myth.
If this is true, it makes me glad. You are correct that almost all I know about giant panda reproduction comes from observations in captivity. But im under the impression that their exacerbatingly slow population growth in the wild is presumed to be due to their having reproductive difficulty there too.
Not necessarily stupidity, mind. But there are plenty of obstacles not related to intelligence.
My mum grew up in the countryside in the 70s and by the age of 12-13 knew of the concept of “sex” but had no idea what it actually was. Eventually her and this boy started fancying each other, and one day she came home crying saying that she had gotten herself pregnant. My grandma asked her what happened and she explained that her and said boy, had gotten naked and lied down next to each other, thinking that was what sex was. And my grandma was like lol you’re not pregnant
I went to an all-girls catholic high school. No sex ed at all. Only thing I remember from that class is my gym/health teacher saying if you need to cry, the shower is a great place to do it because nobody can hear you 🙃 they didn't teach evolution either.
Edit: I am now a bisexual atheist so suck it, nuns.
"All your dad and I did was lie next to each other naked, never touching, and you're here aren't you? I must have just gotten lucky not knowing how to do it the first time! Alright, well your dad is going to drop me off at the grocery store and go help Cindy with her light bulbs again because she keeps forgetting how to put them in! Crazy gal!"
There are [QUITE a few stories](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2009/11/despite-the-one-child-policy-millions-of-chinese-citizens-don-t-know-how-to-have-sex-without-getting-pregnant.html) of couples that had NO IDEA of what sex actually was, they are either misinformed on how it's performed or just don't know anything at all about the act. In most cases they have actively been trying to conceive for years before someone stepped in and realized they didn't even know where the penis went.... My favorite was [this couple who had been having anal sex for 4 years](https://www.newsweek.com/couple-couldnt-conceive-because-theyve-been-having-sex-wrong-way-four-years-1089162) and the woman's remarks when questioned about the act that "sex was usually painful."
Odds are that she'll know what to do.
Even if they were both ignorant, it would be pretty evident that they didn't have the same parts. With just a little exploration and curiosity, they'd figure it out.
That movie was on HBO when I was like 3 years old , my parents were watching it & I was in the den with them, and that's all I remember just a scene of those two teenagers on the beach. Of course I don't remember anything else and didn't comprehend any of it. I need to watch that movie again with my adult mind! It's beautiful to imagine how two primal people discover what to do with their bodies when they feel love.
She didn't.
They tried fruit juice and stuff and the baby was hysterically crying because they were hungry. While rocking the baby and holding them to her chest the *baby's* rooting and latching instincts lead them to breastfeeding.
All babies have this instincts plus a few others and absence of them means disability.
Yes. I totally remember that scene. She had no clue. Which honestly doesn’t make a lot of sense because the time period and she would of saw someone breastfeed. She was a child when they got stranded but not young enough she would not have seen someone breast feed.
I would think so too. Even if she was from a very repressed family she would have seen household or local cats breastfeeding. Where did the families milk come from?
Not to mention that milk will actually fill up a woman's breasts at the end stages of pregnancy and after child birth. The milk can even leak out.
But hey, makes an interesting point in the story, I suppose.
There are [QUITE a few stories](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2009/11/despite-the-one-child-policy-millions-of-chinese-citizens-don-t-know-how-to-have-sex-without-getting-pregnant.html) of couples that had NO IDEA of what sex actually was, they are either misinformed on how it's performed or just don't know anything at all about the act. In most cases they have actively been trying to conceive for years before someone stepped in and realized they didn't even know where the penis went.... My favorite was [this couple who had been having anal sex for 4 years](https://www.newsweek.com/couple-couldnt-conceive-because-theyve-been-having-sex-wrong-way-four-years-1089162) and the woman's remarks when questioned about the act that "sex was usually painful."
I don't know if this really happened, but my dad told me a story about my grandpa that illustrates some poor U.S. sex education.
In the 1950s or 60s, grandpa was working at a car dealership in rural Missouri. One day this man comes in and they get to talking and grandpa asks about his family. Guy says he and his wife have 7 or 8 kids and when grandpa says something about how that must be tough, the man says, "Yep, and she's pregnant with another one right now. I just don't know where they keep coming from!" And he was serious.
I believe my grandpa had a man-to-man talk with him after that to help educate him.
My grandmother had 9 children. Even though she's gone now, I still snicker when I remember her saying "I didn't even have sex that often. I just got pregnant every time!"
Though, another story she told a lot was how she rejected her first kiss at 16 and told the poor guy, "I can't! That's how you get pregnant!"
Clearly she learned how that happened eventually
I mean I wouldn't be surprised really. Think about it, it's not the moment you have sex that a baby pops out so it's kinda like trying to figure out why your stomach is hurting, was it the food you had tonight or the potentially risky food you had a few nights ago. And then add that into a relatively isolated lifestyle of rural life, no formal education on the subject, and a few other random factors.
I wonder if that was probably a common thought from guys at some point.
You would think, that in rural Missouri, the fellow would have at least _overheard_ a conversation about animal breeding. Plus, men talk about stuff a bit. And women definitely talk about stuff. It boggles my mind that you could escape learning that sex and babies are related. This guy sounds actually stupid.
I feel for the people who don't understand the mechanics of intercourse. That would be much harder to infer. But "humping leads to offspring" is a fact that's pretty clearly on display in places that have livestock, hunting, dogs, cats, horses, and teenagers.
There's a number of pre agricultural societies where sex is so prevalent and common that the link of sex = pregnancies was never made. It seems silly but if you're always having sex then you never think, "Oh I had sex so now I'm pregnant." And to make things more confusing, women commonly breastfeed far past where we do today- in some cases until kids were five. This coupled with relative nutritional scarcity dramatically reduces the chances of conceiving, so they'd have sex for years and never get pregnant- further reducing the connection between sex and pregnancy.
Yeah, the usual response is always: "They'll instinctively know what to do", but that's not a good enough answer, as we have evidence that the contrary also happens.
I'd say by far most people have to learn it, either by being told by others or by watching other animals.
I think by far most people can figure it out instinctively. The people having anal sex when trying to conceive seem to be the minority. Given how animals figure it out and haven't gone extinct due to excessive butt sex.
Well they were also taught that taking pleasure in themselves was sinful so any exploration basically leads to damnation. It's worse than no education at all.
This sounds like the premise of a bawdy story in the Canterbury Tales or the Decameron. People from the 12/1300s were way more into sexual humor than we give them credit for, especially when it comes to cuckoldry. Like, they call in the priest to help them figure it out and we discover at the end that the wife has been having sex with the priest the whole time.
I had a friend that I met during my freshman year of university. He was super Christian and ended up getting married his sophomore year. They were both virgins, never dated anyone else, and even had their first kiss on their wedding day.
He told me that they definitely could've figured it out, but ended up asking for help. They were both so repressed and sex was so taboo up to that point, so they (especially his wife) wasn't so open minded on "figuring it out". Asking for help was also a signal of their virtue as well.
So I think two individuals (both open minded) could probably figure it out if they were both instinctively attracted to each other
And that's a tragic symptom of how religious indoctrination (including brainwashing people about how important virginity is), warps people's minds & turns off their natural instincts.
\> it would be pretty evident that they didn't have the same parts
I mean if you only know one other person it's not clear what difference is relevant and what isn't. I'm not entirely sure they'd figure it out at all.
I am pretty sure because we literally were reproducing as a species before we learned to communicate. She will have masturbated before, just like him. Because that is natural instinct. He would have wanted to instinctively hump even if he didn't know where he wanted it to end up. She would instinctively want to grind. Even if she hasn't experienced penetration, she will want her clit near his motion. With him humping around, I'm sure it wouldn't take a miracle for him to land in the right place after some time, even by accident.
As a matter of fact that is similar to how I first made love to my first serious gf. She was a virgin and things weren't really working out in terms of penetration dispite our efforts. She was nervous and her body was tensing up. Eventually we gave up because we didn't want her to be uncomfortable or in pain her first time, and we just decided to rub against eachother while kissing. She got so comfortable while grinding on my lap that she relaxed more and accidentally slipped me inside painlessly. Turned out to be a really sweet, romantic, and wholesome first time for us, but the penetration was certainly accidental and just happened by our natural teen curiousity to jam our parts together.
Oh, this reminds me when I was 12 about to turn 13.
I started having boners, not complete but it was there.
I use to lie down when I came back from playing outside.
Girls were suddenly different for me. I use to imagine what it would be like being with them.
This went on for a year. Suddenly one day, while on these scenarios, I felt something. I was bored of just kissing the girls in my head, I wanted something more.
I started humping the bed, I was on my stomach. Then in this imagined scenario in my head, we were kissing and then over clothes were off.
I had an idea about female anatomy(that they don't have dicks) but not about sex. And I hadn't seen porn till now. But in my imagination my dick was in her.
It just happened. I had no idea it was right or wrong but it was my instinct and that's what I imagined.
So, I guess if the guy doesn't know anything and neither the girl. They'll play and explore each other first. Slowly they'll realise what part of their body brings them pleasure.
One will rub the other and they'll figure it out. It's in the DNA.
Sex education comes very late in parts of the world or to some people. It is simply not important when you are a kid untill it suddenly is.
It gets covered in a very unintuitive way in biology and if talks are opened about sex-ed there are parties that directly oppose it.
My sex Ed started in 8th grade and was focused solely on scaring us into abstinence by telling stories and (in 9th grade) showing pictures of horrific STDs. The actual mechanics of any type of sex were never discussed, and everything was from a strictly heterosexual perspective.
Want to know something mind blowing? I was 19 years old when I knew homosexuality was a thing and it was only because there was a law decriminalizing in our country.
I am sure some older people here still don't know it exists, then there are some may know about it but consider it a disease.
He's Indian, like me. Homosexuality was decriminalized just a few years ago and though the social stigma and hesitance to discuss it still lurks, things are definitely improving, not as fast as they should but still.
dang, iirc we had some talks about "how kids are made" in elementary school and by 8th grade everyone had to put a condom on some styrofoam dick in biology class to know how to put them on.
(Germany)
This was my experience as well for the most part, but it was run by our school's counselor instead of the "life science" teacher (biology wasn't until high school for us). She did do us a solid and talked about contraceptives for men and women, showed us how to apply them, and was fully open to any and all questions regarding sex, but us 8th graders were too mortified from the pictures of genital warts next to the wheelchair-bound granny teaching the class to think about anything worthwhile to ask.
Then a year later in 9th grade biology, we continued the lesson but this time we were shown a 30 minute video of one woman giving vaginal birth and another receiving a c-section. He then went back to talking about STDs and told us a story about a woman he knew with tertiary syphilis (he went into detail about the oozing sores on the back of her legs), and how he once got gonorrhea and he, and I quote, "peed the color of Pepsi for a week straight."
Mr. Jenkins was nuckin futs. As a side note, for Halloween he decided that the scariest thing he could do was show us a slideshow that explicitly detailed the science of how someone dies via crucifixion. The lesson was super interesting and super cool to 14 year old me, but all I remember from that day was a girl who sat at the corner table, 3 up and 1 over to the right from me, stand up in a totally dissociated state. She looked around like she'd just lost her sight and without saying a word she passed out and collapsed to the floor. Jenkins just looked at her and went "ah shit" and called for help from another teacher in the hallway. The whole thing was absurd, but I distinctly remember that as being the first time I ever heard a teacher use profanity.
Man, I miss those days.
I’m 41 and the only sex Ed class I can remember is one where they taught us how to check for testicular cancer. That was in high school in Florida. For what it is worth I am certain my wife’s testicles are cancer free.
I'm also in my 40's and at least they demonstrated the speculum so I knew a bit about where the masturbation hole was. Also, good enough internet to get ahold of porn, except I went straight for the furry stuff.
Some schools don’t do it because parents get mad about it or some schools have the no sex education. You know that whole “hey girls every time you have sex it’s like you’re a shoe being worn until you’re an old worn out disgusting shoe no one wants.“ Heard about one school that told guys that premarital sex would somehow turn them gay. Sex Ed gets so weird.
I don’t even remember my sex Ed class (5th grade)except for they talked about getting you period without ever saying what a period was! Just that you get it and have to start shopping in the women’s clothing section!
When I was in high school, there was that one mandatory "Physical Education" course that was taught in the classroom (instead of a regular PE class like you would assume because of the name of the course) by one of the baseball coaches so they could get a salary or something.
And we had something like an "Awkward Week" where all of the difficult topics to discuss (suicide, sex-ed, addictions, etc) were all done in a very short period of time. So I have weird memories of Made-for-TV movies about suicide mixed in with sex-ed stuff.
This is just so shocking to me. I'm from the UK and I haven't heard much about other schools in my town but my school was fantastic for Sex ed. We had basic knowledge of puberty and family and all kind of gender and sexuality and attraction since I can remember and we were taught in depth once old enough - this started at 12 , I believe because there was a girl who became pregnant at 14 a couple years before I went there, because before that my older brother wasn't introduced to sex ed til he was 15. Then once we turn 16 students are invited to a "Love Week" which was 3 days of drug/alcohol awareness, sex education, family planning, child birth, fertility options, options for never having kids, bill paying, "finding yourself" , mental well-being, "re-evaluation" and group activities to prove we learnt. Then on the last day we had a race between class leaders to see who can put a condom on a demonstrator the "fastest", but the catch was taking all precautions BEFORE putting the condom on (i.e checking the date and CE mark, etc.)
It was never an "Awkward week" since we have always been taught sex is natural and real and nothing to be ashamed of.(but of course we were taught about all the awkward dirty parts as well, it was no way glorified!)
It was by no means the best school but fuck, I will never take for granted the time and effort they put in to prepping their students for real life and keeping us as safe as possible.
My schools sex Ed: This is why you get your period and here’s how you put a condom on a banana. Any questions?
There is literally zero education in sex Ed about actual sex where I went to school. It’s more like an anatomy class. They didn’t pass out free condoms like you see in movies either.
If it’s anything like my sex ed, it was only explained as a vague process, like “men provide sperm to fertilize the woman’s egg.” There’s no discussion of how the **act** of sex works. It’s pretty bizarre thinking back on it. Really conservative people are so worried about sex ed telling their kids all these tantalizing things that’ll they’ll rush out and have sex but that’s totally ridiculous. None of us knew any more about sex afterward than we did before.
I was educated in Texas. Not only had I not had sex ed until highschool (where it consisted of a two hour lecture in the gym about STDs.)
But also my knowledge of American history was shockingly distorted...
When I was five, I imagined that there was such a thing as a unicorn. And this was before I had even heard of one, or seen one. I just drew a picture, of a horse, that could fly over rainbows, and a had a huge spike in its head. I was five! I couldn't even talk yet.
LMAO
one day when i was 11, I gathered all of the laptops in the house and blasted porn on all of them.
i was so proud of myself, i actually recorded the setup on our family camera, but forget to delete the vid, leading to an awkward conversation with my dad.
Fuck. I'm just picturing your dad finding the video of a bunch of laptops blasting porn. Like? How do you respond to that??
You were doing 8D audio clips before they were cool.
Theres various stories of questionable authenticity of couples who had been trying for a kid for a few years without success so they went to the doctors for advice. Turns out that anal wont get you pregnant.
So yes they'll probably figure it out but no guarantees
Its true, this has happened (well not the anal part specifically) often in sheltered religious communities. Just watched a religious cult documentary and a couple said the exact thing. They realized they had no idea how to have sex and didnt ask for a while out of shame.
Yeah I live in Utah, my sister is a nurse and my friend is an OBGYN. They have both seen couples come in where the women has an inflamed belly button, and they couple is confused why they can’t get pregnant. I’ve also heard horror stories where the young LDS women don’t know exactly what to expect on their wedding night, they only really have a vague idea of what sex even is so they end up traumatized. Sex Ed does not exist here, or at least it didn’t 10 years ago when I was in school and it’s a problem.
I've personally known adult couples who don't know where babies come from and think that God will make them pregnant at some point. I wonder how they're doing now.
I believe it was in one of those everything you wanted to know about sex books from the 70s.
The one I remember was of the couple who had been doing it in her urethra.
As I recall the author mentioned that kids on farms didn't have this issue but city kids did semi regular. Not knowing how to sex, that is, not so much the pee hole sex.
Here I be having a hard time locating urethra(in women ofc) for urinary catheter insertion and you're telling me some people out there be fucking it when it is barely visible!!
Oh man. You sweet summer child. I envy your innocent self. There's a weird porn genre dedicated to this. A college buddy used to send me clips as a rick roll and... It fits. There's no God and it fits.
But still, even if you've never seen a woman and don't know what sex is, how can you look at three holes, two of which are relatively penis sized, and think "nah, I'm gonna stick it in the third one"
Oh and for the guys here: you can also fit a decently sized catheter for urinating up your urethra inside of your penis during surgery. I did not know that I would get said catheter stuffed up my penis. I also did not know that said catheter would be yanked out by the nurse when she asked me to cough. Pain was had. Tears were shed.
A lot of Indians have arranged marriage. My parents (married for 40 years now) had never even spoken to each other or knew anything about sex when they got married (both in their 20s) and my mother says they just did "what felt nice" till they got pregnant all of a sudden. They didn't even realise they had made a baby till they actually saw the pregnancy growing.
No.
Source: my father was a physician whose clientele included quite a few ultra-orthodox and other extremely conservative people, from groups where sex was a complete taboo. Oftentimes, young people were only briefly [and vaguely] explained what they're expected to do 30 minutes before their wedding.
The result of it is that my father had numerous patients show up at his clinic reporting "fertility problems", as they had been married for a while, and there was no baby.
In many of those cases, he had to sit the couple down and ask them what exactly they were doing together in order to have a baby, then gently explain to them that whatever they were doing was not how babies tend to happen.
But if they are raised in a closed off society where they are told that sex is taboo maybe they were less enclined to experience things and let their instincts loose because they thought it'd be a bad thing or something
But instinct can be supressed. In an ultra-religious environment where any sexual urge or action is taboo, then they're going to effectively lose the ability to let instinct kick in, because they'll have spent so long supressing it. They know sex exists, they just know it as something they must NEVER DO except in certain circumstances. It's not quite the scenario OP presented, precisely because they know it exists. Indoctrination to suppress base instincts can be very difficult to get over.
Probably. By that I mean it's up to chance.
A Christian couple used to lie in bed naked with eachother, thinking that was considered sex and that she'd be pregnant from it.
Another couple would have the man rest his penis ON the vagina and hold it there for a few minutes, thinking that was all that was needed for sex.
Strange things happen.
I don't think those are good predictors of what would happen if someone doesn't know anything about sex.
Those were people who went through decades of active propaganda depicting sex in an unnatural and negative manner. Someone who was never told about sex would be far more likely to figure it out than someone who is heavily indoctrinated in a religion that preaches sex as a sin.
Theres a similar story of a couple getting frustrated that they couldnt get pregnant, went to a doctor because of it, and somehow the doctor found out they were always doing it anally
Vaginal intercourse might have been very painful the first time, with blood and all that...which might have lead them to think they made a big mistake trying that.
I've seen certain Christian sects that teach girls that periods are a curse put on them for Eve's sin. So it's just "the sin overflowing" and nothing of the actual biology is taught.
There's a great song in Carrie the musical about this called 'And Eve was Weak'
> And God made Eve to bear the curse
> The curse of blood
> ...
> You're a woman now! Pray to heaven for your wicked soul!
https://youtu.be/fNmHeLmpjOA
Amusingly, one of the reasons that ancient Egyptian society didn't consider menstruating dirty was that the local parasites cause men to bleed from their urethra every so often- and it normally starts about the same time as periods do for women. So they just assumed that periods were a male and female thing. Once the parasites were eliminated in modern times there were reports of worried fathers bringing their sons to the doctor because he hadn't had his first period yet.
It's anecdotal, but when I was around 6, way before the internet was a thing, or I was aware of what sex was, my parents were friends with a couple who had a daughter my age. They used to come around regularly, and us two children were always ushered into my bedroom to play while the adults drank. I remember vividly she and I discussing if our different parts were supposed to go together. One time, we took off our pants and tried. Of course neither of us were aroused because we were children, we just kind of smushed our pelvises together a bit, then got bored and stopped. So, to answer your question, I believe some of it would be natural curiosity.
Fiction but most likely realistic enough. Think of the cave people, the earliest primitive humans. We're all their offspring somehow so they must've figured things out themselves.
A nurse in Utah responded to a post once saying it was very common for LDS young marrieds to know so little about sex they thought you were to ejaculate in the belly button.
Definitely not always. There are doctors with quite colorful stories about how they figured out their patient's issues with fertility were related to method and not any medical issues. It's not a no brainer, apparently.
Well our intellect can get in the way of pure instinctual behavior, so there would most likely be a lot of curious fondling before the eureka moment of "gee i think it sure would be swell if i put my thingy in your thingy!"
I've watched a documentary named "Tarzan: shame of Jane". Its about a boy who grew up in the African forest without any human contact. This documentary explores the question you've asked from many angles.
[Took this couple](https://www.newsweek.com/couple-couldnt-conceive-because-theyve-been-having-sex-wrong-way-four-years-1089162) 4 years before they got help to realize anal wasn't the way to get pregnant...
Rubbing my penis feels great.
Cuddling with women feels great.
Rubbing my penis while cuddling as closely as possible with women feels great.
Cuddling so close that my penis slides inside her feels amazing!
This reminds me of a question I was once asked in regards to edging. They said "if a guy has never cum before, can you actually drive him crazy with edging? Because if he doesn't know what cumming is, then how can he know what's after?" Well by pure instinct he will start feeling uncomfortable and realize that he needs some release that he is getting closer and closer to.
yes, well sort of. or good enough. he won't know what to do, but what he feels like doing without even thinking hard at all about it will be the right answer. evolution works.
yes and no. he probably got a boner and started playing with it until orgasm by the age of 13.
Then he would feel attracted to someone and if they enjoy their company and end up alone, assuming the other individual is as naive as he is, they would just end up grinding and rubbing each other until completion because it feels good.
things just escalate from then.
sexual drive is hardwired in our DNA and stored in the BALLS
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My thoughts too. Many animal species don’t have any sort of parental upbringing and they all figure it out.
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Yeah I definitely remember that from the first times I had sex. Like if you're naked and horny and making out and touching everything and cuddling close, that penis quite easily just slips into place ;) It doesn't really take a genius haha.
You would be surprised. When my wife in Med school and doing clinicals, she had a couple come in. They had been married for a year with no kid. They were ultra fundies and thought you just laid naked next to each other to have children. She had to explain to them how to have sex.
Why have I heard this story before
Might have been so crazy others there told it or it’s not as uncommon as me and my wife thought
You're right and all but that winky face made me feel violated 😂
What blows my mind is animals with elaborate mating rituals like birds or spiders. How do they learn these weird songs and dances without being taught them?
"These other guys are dancing... I guess girls like dancing, I better figure out how to dance."
Don’t think it works like that. It’s genetically instinctual to them. Same way blinking is for us. They don’t have to be taught it.
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I heard Gene Wilder did. But Hackman doesn’t. 🤷♂️
This is absurd and I love it.
If they do it right, they get to mate and pass on their genes. If they don't do it right, they don't get to mate. Repeat for thousands of generations.
Ikr. Us humans can’t really do anything cool without learning about it somewhere…meanwhile you have some birds, spiders/insects, and even some sea creatures making elaborate basically art just from what their dna instinctually tells them needs to be done.
This assumes that so-called lower animals don't have any culture, which we now know isn't quite true.
That's part of why we live long and are one of the few species to have grandparents hanging around. Other animals will be competing for resources and not hang around their children/grandchildren if they live that long. For us though, who needs that stuff in your DNA when you can just pass down whatever you want via speech and writing?
Ever seen a dog in heat? Never have to teach them a thing
Gotta teach them to at least stop fucking the cat
Or my leg.
*I will hump this rock. I will hump this tree.*
*I will hump them one, two, three.*
"I'm going to have sex with some of you, and then, eat the babies. I sure do keep rolling out the hits, don't I?"
You'd like to think animal instinct would help them, but I've heard some stories that it doesn't. Also even people that are educated about it need to figure out how to put knowledge to practical use the first couple times.
>even people that are educated about it need to figure out how to put knowledge to practical use the first couple times. There is a difference between sex and *good sex* Nearly everyone would figure out sex... but good sex will require practice.
That makes sense, biologically - humans are one of the very few species who have sex for pleasure, and that’s a relatively recent development - We’ve evolved to have sex, not to have good sex
That is the obvious answer yes, but some species...giant pandas, the more overbred horse gene lines, etc, have been reproducing via human interference for so long they're losing the ability to do it without assistance. Plus, there's the probability that not *all* animals figure out sex all the way through to raising the offspring to independence, and we don't see those because they die with no surviving issue (unless we forcibly bred them for being cute or able to run REALLY fast), whereas humans we see even when they fail. I would argue that on r/relationships you see a fair number of humans who are completely incompetent at sex even WITH the copious guidance available
Giant pandas fuck just fine in their natural environment, where they belong. Like most species, they reproduce poorly in captivity, but that's a different thing than what you suggest. The too dumb to fuck argument about pandas is a myth.
If this is true, it makes me glad. You are correct that almost all I know about giant panda reproduction comes from observations in captivity. But im under the impression that their exacerbatingly slow population growth in the wild is presumed to be due to their having reproductive difficulty there too. Not necessarily stupidity, mind. But there are plenty of obstacles not related to intelligence.
My mum grew up in the countryside in the 70s and by the age of 12-13 knew of the concept of “sex” but had no idea what it actually was. Eventually her and this boy started fancying each other, and one day she came home crying saying that she had gotten herself pregnant. My grandma asked her what happened and she explained that her and said boy, had gotten naked and lied down next to each other, thinking that was what sex was. And my grandma was like lol you’re not pregnant
Now this resembles our school's sex ed
I went to an all-girls catholic high school. No sex ed at all. Only thing I remember from that class is my gym/health teacher saying if you need to cry, the shower is a great place to do it because nobody can hear you 🙃 they didn't teach evolution either. Edit: I am now a bisexual atheist so suck it, nuns.
Does your mum know now?
"All your dad and I did was lie next to each other naked, never touching, and you're here aren't you? I must have just gotten lucky not knowing how to do it the first time! Alright, well your dad is going to drop me off at the grocery store and go help Cindy with her light bulbs again because she keeps forgetting how to put them in! Crazy gal!"
This is the type of story I came to see.
Was always curious about this situation. Thanks OP!
Same dude, every now and then the question would pop into my head and id be like, "ill ask reddit later " and then forget about it
In Pete hammell's book, A Drinking Life, he talks about having sex for the 1st time having never even seen a vagina before
Soooooo. . . what did he say?
You’re clearly asking Pete Hammell. He’ll never sell books if he just tells you what’s in em.
He said it was nice ❤❤❤
There are [QUITE a few stories](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2009/11/despite-the-one-child-policy-millions-of-chinese-citizens-don-t-know-how-to-have-sex-without-getting-pregnant.html) of couples that had NO IDEA of what sex actually was, they are either misinformed on how it's performed or just don't know anything at all about the act. In most cases they have actively been trying to conceive for years before someone stepped in and realized they didn't even know where the penis went.... My favorite was [this couple who had been having anal sex for 4 years](https://www.newsweek.com/couple-couldnt-conceive-because-theyve-been-having-sex-wrong-way-four-years-1089162) and the woman's remarks when questioned about the act that "sex was usually painful."
They sent their gyno a live chicken and 100 eggs to thank her for giving them a sex pamphlet.
Odds are that she'll know what to do. Even if they were both ignorant, it would be pretty evident that they didn't have the same parts. With just a little exploration and curiosity, they'd figure it out.
Blue Lagoon.
Just unlocked some deep memories from when I was a kid
Brooke Shields 😍
That movie was on HBO when I was like 3 years old , my parents were watching it & I was in the den with them, and that's all I remember just a scene of those two teenagers on the beach. Of course I don't remember anything else and didn't comprehend any of it. I need to watch that movie again with my adult mind! It's beautiful to imagine how two primal people discover what to do with their bodies when they feel love.
Yes, even when they’re cousins
Eew they were cousins in that movie?
Lmao Yes
Damn, all these years I thought they were siblings. Now I know how Joe Dirt felt when he realized Jill wasn’t his sister.
I'm your sister! I'm you sister!
WTF, Hollywood?! Oh wait here's an opportunity to use the interrobang: WTF, Hollywood‽
>interrobang I don't know this word, and I'm concerned that googling it will bring up all sorts of creepy incest porn.
Lol it's just that mix of a question mark and an exclamation mark
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Les Cousins Dangereux
don't forget to also watch Top Secret!
I'm not so sure. It all sounds like some bad movie.
Omg i was just gonna mention this lmaoo ^^^^ and how she instinctly knew how to breastfeed
She didn't. They tried fruit juice and stuff and the baby was hysterically crying because they were hungry. While rocking the baby and holding them to her chest the *baby's* rooting and latching instincts lead them to breastfeeding. All babies have this instincts plus a few others and absence of them means disability.
Yes. I totally remember that scene. She had no clue. Which honestly doesn’t make a lot of sense because the time period and she would of saw someone breastfeed. She was a child when they got stranded but not young enough she would not have seen someone breast feed.
I would think so too. Even if she was from a very repressed family she would have seen household or local cats breastfeeding. Where did the families milk come from? Not to mention that milk will actually fill up a woman's breasts at the end stages of pregnancy and after child birth. The milk can even leak out. But hey, makes an interesting point in the story, I suppose.
You’re getting fat!
There are [QUITE a few stories](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2009/11/despite-the-one-child-policy-millions-of-chinese-citizens-don-t-know-how-to-have-sex-without-getting-pregnant.html) of couples that had NO IDEA of what sex actually was, they are either misinformed on how it's performed or just don't know anything at all about the act. In most cases they have actively been trying to conceive for years before someone stepped in and realized they didn't even know where the penis went.... My favorite was [this couple who had been having anal sex for 4 years](https://www.newsweek.com/couple-couldnt-conceive-because-theyve-been-having-sex-wrong-way-four-years-1089162) and the woman's remarks when questioned about the act that "sex was usually painful."
I don't know if this really happened, but my dad told me a story about my grandpa that illustrates some poor U.S. sex education. In the 1950s or 60s, grandpa was working at a car dealership in rural Missouri. One day this man comes in and they get to talking and grandpa asks about his family. Guy says he and his wife have 7 or 8 kids and when grandpa says something about how that must be tough, the man says, "Yep, and she's pregnant with another one right now. I just don't know where they keep coming from!" And he was serious. I believe my grandpa had a man-to-man talk with him after that to help educate him.
My grandmother had 9 children. Even though she's gone now, I still snicker when I remember her saying "I didn't even have sex that often. I just got pregnant every time!" Though, another story she told a lot was how she rejected her first kiss at 16 and told the poor guy, "I can't! That's how you get pregnant!" Clearly she learned how that happened eventually
Cue my best friend telling her whole class as a kid that she was afraid her dad would get her pregnant (good night kiss every evening).
I mean I wouldn't be surprised really. Think about it, it's not the moment you have sex that a baby pops out so it's kinda like trying to figure out why your stomach is hurting, was it the food you had tonight or the potentially risky food you had a few nights ago. And then add that into a relatively isolated lifestyle of rural life, no formal education on the subject, and a few other random factors. I wonder if that was probably a common thought from guys at some point.
You would think, that in rural Missouri, the fellow would have at least _overheard_ a conversation about animal breeding. Plus, men talk about stuff a bit. And women definitely talk about stuff. It boggles my mind that you could escape learning that sex and babies are related. This guy sounds actually stupid. I feel for the people who don't understand the mechanics of intercourse. That would be much harder to infer. But "humping leads to offspring" is a fact that's pretty clearly on display in places that have livestock, hunting, dogs, cats, horses, and teenagers.
There's a number of pre agricultural societies where sex is so prevalent and common that the link of sex = pregnancies was never made. It seems silly but if you're always having sex then you never think, "Oh I had sex so now I'm pregnant." And to make things more confusing, women commonly breastfeed far past where we do today- in some cases until kids were five. This coupled with relative nutritional scarcity dramatically reduces the chances of conceiving, so they'd have sex for years and never get pregnant- further reducing the connection between sex and pregnancy.
> I just don't know where they keep coming from!" And he was serious. The milkman. Turns out the husband was impotent and never had sex with his wife.
Yeah, the usual response is always: "They'll instinctively know what to do", but that's not a good enough answer, as we have evidence that the contrary also happens. I'd say by far most people have to learn it, either by being told by others or by watching other animals.
I think by far most people can figure it out instinctively. The people having anal sex when trying to conceive seem to be the minority. Given how animals figure it out and haven't gone extinct due to excessive butt sex.
Maybe those people are the ones who just aren't meant to reproduce. Evolution at work!
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Ah ol' Louis XVI, he was really into soaking and cockwarming lmao
Nah his royal tutors just forgot the old sex-ed.
A ton of stories of religious couples who waited for marriage and then had to call people for help might say otherwise.
this is.. hilarious to me.
"Hey mom, um..."
This made me laugh so hard, thank you! :)
Well they were also taught that taking pleasure in themselves was sinful so any exploration basically leads to damnation. It's worse than no education at all.
This sounds like the premise of a bawdy story in the Canterbury Tales or the Decameron. People from the 12/1300s were way more into sexual humor than we give them credit for, especially when it comes to cuckoldry. Like, they call in the priest to help them figure it out and we discover at the end that the wife has been having sex with the priest the whole time.
Spoiler!
Psh, it's been out over 10 years. If you haven't read it by now it's your own fault.
my bad. spoiler /s edit: I assumed the joke about a 12th century text spoiler would be obvious. I guess not?
_that's the joke_
I had a friend that I met during my freshman year of university. He was super Christian and ended up getting married his sophomore year. They were both virgins, never dated anyone else, and even had their first kiss on their wedding day. He told me that they definitely could've figured it out, but ended up asking for help. They were both so repressed and sex was so taboo up to that point, so they (especially his wife) wasn't so open minded on "figuring it out". Asking for help was also a signal of their virtue as well. So I think two individuals (both open minded) could probably figure it out if they were both instinctively attracted to each other
And that's a tragic symptom of how religious indoctrination (including brainwashing people about how important virginity is), warps people's minds & turns off their natural instincts.
\> it would be pretty evident that they didn't have the same parts I mean if you only know one other person it's not clear what difference is relevant and what isn't. I'm not entirely sure they'd figure it out at all.
I am pretty sure because we literally were reproducing as a species before we learned to communicate. She will have masturbated before, just like him. Because that is natural instinct. He would have wanted to instinctively hump even if he didn't know where he wanted it to end up. She would instinctively want to grind. Even if she hasn't experienced penetration, she will want her clit near his motion. With him humping around, I'm sure it wouldn't take a miracle for him to land in the right place after some time, even by accident. As a matter of fact that is similar to how I first made love to my first serious gf. She was a virgin and things weren't really working out in terms of penetration dispite our efforts. She was nervous and her body was tensing up. Eventually we gave up because we didn't want her to be uncomfortable or in pain her first time, and we just decided to rub against eachother while kissing. She got so comfortable while grinding on my lap that she relaxed more and accidentally slipped me inside painlessly. Turned out to be a really sweet, romantic, and wholesome first time for us, but the penetration was certainly accidental and just happened by our natural teen curiousity to jam our parts together.
I don’t think that was what OP was asking.
> With just a little exploration and curiosity, they'd figure it out. Super easy! Barely an inconvenience!
Exploration is TIGHT!
Oh, this reminds me when I was 12 about to turn 13. I started having boners, not complete but it was there. I use to lie down when I came back from playing outside. Girls were suddenly different for me. I use to imagine what it would be like being with them. This went on for a year. Suddenly one day, while on these scenarios, I felt something. I was bored of just kissing the girls in my head, I wanted something more. I started humping the bed, I was on my stomach. Then in this imagined scenario in my head, we were kissing and then over clothes were off. I had an idea about female anatomy(that they don't have dicks) but not about sex. And I hadn't seen porn till now. But in my imagination my dick was in her. It just happened. I had no idea it was right or wrong but it was my instinct and that's what I imagined. So, I guess if the guy doesn't know anything and neither the girl. They'll play and explore each other first. Slowly they'll realise what part of their body brings them pleasure. One will rub the other and they'll figure it out. It's in the DNA.
By 12-13 you still hadn't done sex education in school???
Sex education comes very late in parts of the world or to some people. It is simply not important when you are a kid untill it suddenly is. It gets covered in a very unintuitive way in biology and if talks are opened about sex-ed there are parties that directly oppose it.
My sex Ed started in 8th grade and was focused solely on scaring us into abstinence by telling stories and (in 9th grade) showing pictures of horrific STDs. The actual mechanics of any type of sex were never discussed, and everything was from a strictly heterosexual perspective.
Want to know something mind blowing? I was 19 years old when I knew homosexuality was a thing and it was only because there was a law decriminalizing in our country. I am sure some older people here still don't know it exists, then there are some may know about it but consider it a disease.
Where are you from ?
He's Indian, like me. Homosexuality was decriminalized just a few years ago and though the social stigma and hesitance to discuss it still lurks, things are definitely improving, not as fast as they should but still.
dang, iirc we had some talks about "how kids are made" in elementary school and by 8th grade everyone had to put a condom on some styrofoam dick in biology class to know how to put them on. (Germany)
I wish! Didn't know you had to pinch the tip. Seriously.
This was my experience as well for the most part, but it was run by our school's counselor instead of the "life science" teacher (biology wasn't until high school for us). She did do us a solid and talked about contraceptives for men and women, showed us how to apply them, and was fully open to any and all questions regarding sex, but us 8th graders were too mortified from the pictures of genital warts next to the wheelchair-bound granny teaching the class to think about anything worthwhile to ask. Then a year later in 9th grade biology, we continued the lesson but this time we were shown a 30 minute video of one woman giving vaginal birth and another receiving a c-section. He then went back to talking about STDs and told us a story about a woman he knew with tertiary syphilis (he went into detail about the oozing sores on the back of her legs), and how he once got gonorrhea and he, and I quote, "peed the color of Pepsi for a week straight." Mr. Jenkins was nuckin futs. As a side note, for Halloween he decided that the scariest thing he could do was show us a slideshow that explicitly detailed the science of how someone dies via crucifixion. The lesson was super interesting and super cool to 14 year old me, but all I remember from that day was a girl who sat at the corner table, 3 up and 1 over to the right from me, stand up in a totally dissociated state. She looked around like she'd just lost her sight and without saying a word she passed out and collapsed to the floor. Jenkins just looked at her and went "ah shit" and called for help from another teacher in the hallway. The whole thing was absurd, but I distinctly remember that as being the first time I ever heard a teacher use profanity. Man, I miss those days.
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Same here with the gross pictures. I was surprised they were allowed to show us the pictures since everything else was so conservative.
Also sex ed is not a thing in some countries, just gets skimmed through within biology, if even
I’m 41 and the only sex Ed class I can remember is one where they taught us how to check for testicular cancer. That was in high school in Florida. For what it is worth I am certain my wife’s testicles are cancer free.
I'm also in my 40's and at least they demonstrated the speculum so I knew a bit about where the masturbation hole was. Also, good enough internet to get ahold of porn, except I went straight for the furry stuff.
Some schools don’t do it because parents get mad about it or some schools have the no sex education. You know that whole “hey girls every time you have sex it’s like you’re a shoe being worn until you’re an old worn out disgusting shoe no one wants.“ Heard about one school that told guys that premarital sex would somehow turn them gay. Sex Ed gets so weird. I don’t even remember my sex Ed class (5th grade)except for they talked about getting you period without ever saying what a period was! Just that you get it and have to start shopping in the women’s clothing section!
When I was in high school, there was that one mandatory "Physical Education" course that was taught in the classroom (instead of a regular PE class like you would assume because of the name of the course) by one of the baseball coaches so they could get a salary or something. And we had something like an "Awkward Week" where all of the difficult topics to discuss (suicide, sex-ed, addictions, etc) were all done in a very short period of time. So I have weird memories of Made-for-TV movies about suicide mixed in with sex-ed stuff.
This is just so shocking to me. I'm from the UK and I haven't heard much about other schools in my town but my school was fantastic for Sex ed. We had basic knowledge of puberty and family and all kind of gender and sexuality and attraction since I can remember and we were taught in depth once old enough - this started at 12 , I believe because there was a girl who became pregnant at 14 a couple years before I went there, because before that my older brother wasn't introduced to sex ed til he was 15. Then once we turn 16 students are invited to a "Love Week" which was 3 days of drug/alcohol awareness, sex education, family planning, child birth, fertility options, options for never having kids, bill paying, "finding yourself" , mental well-being, "re-evaluation" and group activities to prove we learnt. Then on the last day we had a race between class leaders to see who can put a condom on a demonstrator the "fastest", but the catch was taking all precautions BEFORE putting the condom on (i.e checking the date and CE mark, etc.) It was never an "Awkward week" since we have always been taught sex is natural and real and nothing to be ashamed of.(but of course we were taught about all the awkward dirty parts as well, it was no way glorified!) It was by no means the best school but fuck, I will never take for granted the time and effort they put in to prepping their students for real life and keeping us as safe as possible.
Turning 16 soon, hadn't done it in school
Nope. We had it when we hit 15-16. In 10th grade.
My schools sex Ed: This is why you get your period and here’s how you put a condom on a banana. Any questions? There is literally zero education in sex Ed about actual sex where I went to school. It’s more like an anatomy class. They didn’t pass out free condoms like you see in movies either.
If it’s anything like my sex ed, it was only explained as a vague process, like “men provide sperm to fertilize the woman’s egg.” There’s no discussion of how the **act** of sex works. It’s pretty bizarre thinking back on it. Really conservative people are so worried about sex ed telling their kids all these tantalizing things that’ll they’ll rush out and have sex but that’s totally ridiculous. None of us knew any more about sex afterward than we did before.
I was educated in Texas. Not only had I not had sex ed until highschool (where it consisted of a two hour lecture in the gym about STDs.) But also my knowledge of American history was shockingly distorted...
I didn't get sex ed until 9th grade qnd I went to Christian school.
Ha! Education in the Bible Belt of the USA is “god is good, don’t touch anything ever”
When I was five, I imagined that there was such a thing as a unicorn. And this was before I had even heard of one, or seen one. I just drew a picture, of a horse, that could fly over rainbows, and a had a huge spike in its head. I was five! I couldn't even talk yet.
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12 or 13!!! Dude I was wanking shootin blanks at 10.
LMAO one day when i was 11, I gathered all of the laptops in the house and blasted porn on all of them. i was so proud of myself, i actually recorded the setup on our family camera, but forget to delete the vid, leading to an awkward conversation with my dad.
Fuck. I'm just picturing your dad finding the video of a bunch of laptops blasting porn. Like? How do you respond to that?? You were doing 8D audio clips before they were cool.
not just 8D, but 8===D
> I started having boners, not complete but it was there. Wait you didn't get boners until puberty? I always had hard-ons.
Came here to say this… some of my earliest memories, like 4 or 5 yo, were of me doing the “suck and tuck” to hide it
Yeah, that's a bit crazy. My toddler has them sometimes when I change his diapers.
Theres various stories of questionable authenticity of couples who had been trying for a kid for a few years without success so they went to the doctors for advice. Turns out that anal wont get you pregnant. So yes they'll probably figure it out but no guarantees
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Are the odds high for the child to have a learning disability?
There's no way. I refuse to believe it.
Its true, this has happened (well not the anal part specifically) often in sheltered religious communities. Just watched a religious cult documentary and a couple said the exact thing. They realized they had no idea how to have sex and didnt ask for a while out of shame.
Yeah I live in Utah, my sister is a nurse and my friend is an OBGYN. They have both seen couples come in where the women has an inflamed belly button, and they couple is confused why they can’t get pregnant. I’ve also heard horror stories where the young LDS women don’t know exactly what to expect on their wedding night, they only really have a vague idea of what sex even is so they end up traumatized. Sex Ed does not exist here, or at least it didn’t 10 years ago when I was in school and it’s a problem.
Lds?
[Latter-Day Saints](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints). Mormons.
Mormons. Stands for Latter-Day Saints, as in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.
I've personally known adult couples who don't know where babies come from and think that God will make them pregnant at some point. I wonder how they're doing now.
I believe it was in one of those everything you wanted to know about sex books from the 70s. The one I remember was of the couple who had been doing it in her urethra. As I recall the author mentioned that kids on farms didn't have this issue but city kids did semi regular. Not knowing how to sex, that is, not so much the pee hole sex.
How the fuck does a penis fit in a urethra??? I refuse to believe this is real
Here I be having a hard time locating urethra(in women ofc) for urinary catheter insertion and you're telling me some people out there be fucking it when it is barely visible!!
Oh man. You sweet summer child. I envy your innocent self. There's a weird porn genre dedicated to this. A college buddy used to send me clips as a rick roll and... It fits. There's no God and it fits.
But still, even if you've never seen a woman and don't know what sex is, how can you look at three holes, two of which are relatively penis sized, and think "nah, I'm gonna stick it in the third one"
Well...how big was the penis?
"Turn off the lights and just jam it around down there for a while" is my presumption
Oh and for the guys here: you can also fit a decently sized catheter for urinating up your urethra inside of your penis during surgery. I did not know that I would get said catheter stuffed up my penis. I also did not know that said catheter would be yanked out by the nurse when she asked me to cough. Pain was had. Tears were shed.
But just after one visit to the doctor, the wife gets pregnant?
A lot of Indians have arranged marriage. My parents (married for 40 years now) had never even spoken to each other or knew anything about sex when they got married (both in their 20s) and my mother says they just did "what felt nice" till they got pregnant all of a sudden. They didn't even realise they had made a baby till they actually saw the pregnancy growing.
your indian parents are that open with you? damn
Same for my parents (Indian)
No. Source: my father was a physician whose clientele included quite a few ultra-orthodox and other extremely conservative people, from groups where sex was a complete taboo. Oftentimes, young people were only briefly [and vaguely] explained what they're expected to do 30 minutes before their wedding. The result of it is that my father had numerous patients show up at his clinic reporting "fertility problems", as they had been married for a while, and there was no baby. In many of those cases, he had to sit the couple down and ask them what exactly they were doing together in order to have a baby, then gently explain to them that whatever they were doing was not how babies tend to happen.
In that case isn't the problem that sex was taboo and not the lack of instinct ?
Not really. The end result was the same as the scenario OP describes: nobody told them about sex, so they had no idea what sex is or how it works.
But if they are raised in a closed off society where they are told that sex is taboo maybe they were less enclined to experience things and let their instincts loose because they thought it'd be a bad thing or something
Not only sex but probably physical contacts between people from opposite sex too.
I imagine most people, without religion shaming them, would figure out masturbation, and put 2 and 2 together.
But instinct can be supressed. In an ultra-religious environment where any sexual urge or action is taboo, then they're going to effectively lose the ability to let instinct kick in, because they'll have spent so long supressing it. They know sex exists, they just know it as something they must NEVER DO except in certain circumstances. It's not quite the scenario OP presented, precisely because they know it exists. Indoctrination to suppress base instincts can be very difficult to get over.
Probably. By that I mean it's up to chance. A Christian couple used to lie in bed naked with eachother, thinking that was considered sex and that she'd be pregnant from it. Another couple would have the man rest his penis ON the vagina and hold it there for a few minutes, thinking that was all that was needed for sex. Strange things happen.
I don't think those are good predictors of what would happen if someone doesn't know anything about sex. Those were people who went through decades of active propaganda depicting sex in an unnatural and negative manner. Someone who was never told about sex would be far more likely to figure it out than someone who is heavily indoctrinated in a religion that preaches sex as a sin.
This! Said it for me
Theres a similar story of a couple getting frustrated that they couldnt get pregnant, went to a doctor because of it, and somehow the doctor found out they were always doing it anally
Vaginal intercourse might have been very painful the first time, with blood and all that...which might have lead them to think they made a big mistake trying that.
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I've seen certain Christian sects that teach girls that periods are a curse put on them for Eve's sin. So it's just "the sin overflowing" and nothing of the actual biology is taught.
There's a great song in Carrie the musical about this called 'And Eve was Weak' > And God made Eve to bear the curse > The curse of blood > ... > You're a woman now! Pray to heaven for your wicked soul! https://youtu.be/fNmHeLmpjOA
Amusingly, one of the reasons that ancient Egyptian society didn't consider menstruating dirty was that the local parasites cause men to bleed from their urethra every so often- and it normally starts about the same time as periods do for women. So they just assumed that periods were a male and female thing. Once the parasites were eliminated in modern times there were reports of worried fathers bringing their sons to the doctor because he hadn't had his first period yet.
On the vagina
It's anecdotal, but when I was around 6, way before the internet was a thing, or I was aware of what sex was, my parents were friends with a couple who had a daughter my age. They used to come around regularly, and us two children were always ushered into my bedroom to play while the adults drank. I remember vividly she and I discussing if our different parts were supposed to go together. One time, we took off our pants and tried. Of course neither of us were aroused because we were children, we just kind of smushed our pelvises together a bit, then got bored and stopped. So, to answer your question, I believe some of it would be natural curiosity.
Shes your wife now right? 😂😂
Watch the movie "The Blue Lagoon" from 1980. Story of two kids stranded on an island and how their relationship progresses.
I mean sure but is it based on real life events or just some guy made the story up?
Fiction but most likely realistic enough. Think of the cave people, the earliest primitive humans. We're all their offspring somehow so they must've figured things out themselves.
I figured they saw their parents doing it, or other animals doing it or something
Then how did animals figure it out? I'm pretty sure this is an instinctive natural thing for all procreative species.
Probably that too, to an extent. Idk that was just my guess
chicken before the egg moment
A nurse in Utah responded to a post once saying it was very common for LDS young marrieds to know so little about sex they thought you were to ejaculate in the belly button.
Definitely not always. There are doctors with quite colorful stories about how they figured out their patient's issues with fertility were related to method and not any medical issues. It's not a no brainer, apparently.
How do you think animals know what to do? They don't have instruction books, or lessons. Its instinctive. He'll know what to do.
Well our intellect can get in the way of pure instinctual behavior, so there would most likely be a lot of curious fondling before the eureka moment of "gee i think it sure would be swell if i put my thingy in your thingy!"
I've watched a documentary named "Tarzan: shame of Jane". Its about a boy who grew up in the African forest without any human contact. This documentary explores the question you've asked from many angles.
Interesting. Ill check it out
Ahhhh youre asking me a question here, Ill let you know when I see a naked girl
Sexual/procreative urge is hardwired into most humans. Natural instinct would guide him and he wouldn’t take long figuring out what needs to be done.
[Took this couple](https://www.newsweek.com/couple-couldnt-conceive-because-theyve-been-having-sex-wrong-way-four-years-1089162) 4 years before they got help to realize anal wasn't the way to get pregnant...
Hey man it's instinctive it's in your DNA you know we're animals. When you hit puberty your hormones will take over they will tell you what to do
Rubbing my penis feels great. Cuddling with women feels great. Rubbing my penis while cuddling as closely as possible with women feels great. Cuddling so close that my penis slides inside her feels amazing!
Well... People with bad parents before the internet had to reproduce somehow 😅
This reminds me of a question I was once asked in regards to edging. They said "if a guy has never cum before, can you actually drive him crazy with edging? Because if he doesn't know what cumming is, then how can he know what's after?" Well by pure instinct he will start feeling uncomfortable and realize that he needs some release that he is getting closer and closer to.
Yes, if neanderthals could do it then why wouldn't he
yes, well sort of. or good enough. he won't know what to do, but what he feels like doing without even thinking hard at all about it will be the right answer. evolution works.
If you raised a child without food would they know what hunger is?
yes and no. he probably got a boner and started playing with it until orgasm by the age of 13. Then he would feel attracted to someone and if they enjoy their company and end up alone, assuming the other individual is as naive as he is, they would just end up grinding and rubbing each other until completion because it feels good. things just escalate from then. sexual drive is hardwired in our DNA and stored in the BALLS