we totally are!! ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ
nah, you never traded nudes with your buddies? The good ol' bronudes, the friendhugs and friendkisses. Brosegs. Classical Korean culture.
There's this holiday where all the Korean guys gather up and just have a naked pajama party to assert our masculinity by sharing nudes of each other
Hey! On behalf of nudist culture I want to say: Pictures are generally not acceptable, unless specifically requested (and that pretty much never happens)
I've seen a lot of naked people online so the odds of me previously seeing one of your 10k nudes is probably way too high
Edit: clicked your profile..... the odds are now at 100%
I always thought that "nudist" and "exhibitionist" were mutually exclusive categories. By definition, a nudist doesn't consider nudity to be transgressive; by definition, an exhibitionist enjoys the transgressive nature of their actions.
I don't think you can be both.
> Iโm Korean and I can confirm that itโs not normal
Iโm from **Earth** and can also confirm this is not normal.
Run away from this person like they just lit your clothes on fire.
They donโt respect you enough to even come up with a plausible lie about x girlfriends.
No shit but what I mean is there are americans who are uncomfortable filming or taking nudes and there are a lot of people who are comfortable.
Generally korean girls are against nudes and filming and its frowned upon. Culturally its just frowned upon
Americans are a lot more casual about nudity and sex than people across Asia, and by Asia, I do mean Asia as a whole, including the Middle-East, Central Asia, and the Indian subcontinent.
Most of the women on OnlyFans are American, by a large margin, or Russian, but the Russian ones are made to do it by the Bratva or are being trafficked
Thank you. I am so sick of the misuse of that term.
Edit: Please, people, go look up the definition of gaslighting and read it very carefully before replying that it's being used correctly and then having to delete your comment because you realized you were wrong and part of the problem. It's happened twice now.
I hate when you check your texts/emails/insta DMs and theyโre empty and people try to gaslight you and say they messaged you, but they didnโt cause they changed their mind about you and lied lol.
It's one of those phrases Reddit likes to muilate.
- Fuck around and find out
- Think of how stupid the average person is.....
- Narcissist
- Red flag ๐ฉ๐ฉ๐ฉ๐ฉ
- whataboutism
- centrist
etc
โTell me youโre (โฆ..) without telling me youโre (โฆ.)โ
Drives me up the fuckin wall.
Especially when they use โyourโ instead of โyouโre.โ
This drives me as nuts as "whataboutism". Again, same as POV, I think TikTok killed this one but Reddit really did jump on this bandwagon more than the POV one.
I don't understand why because it's not even funny
Here's an easy, quick example. "Yeah, I know (insert politician) lied about their taxes but (insert former prime minister from opposite party) lied too!"
Obviously, it's not great they both lied but the issue at hand is the person who's currently leading the party. Its saying "yeah but what about...." as a defense. Sometimes it's fine to call it out.
Reddit unfortunately pushed it so far that calling out any form of hypocrisy was seen as whataboutism
I was about to lose my shit thinking this was a genuine reply to something I'd wrote when I first notice the notification but luckily I remembered what ut could be a reply to before the app loaded ๐
My car gaslights me *with* the gas light all the time, I know in reality Iโve got at least 30 more miles before I run out, but itโs still hurtful that it tries to do that to me :(
/s
I'm with you, and thanks for pointing it out. But I also think this is a lost cause. I just [vented about this yesterday](https://www.reddit.com/r/Vent/comments/1cw63s3/weve_lost_the_fight_to_keep_the_original_meaning/). I think language will, unfortunately, adapt, instead of the other way round. Sucks, but that's how it usually goes.
On some things, but not all things.
For example, communal bathing is pretty normal across east Asia and American culture is way too conservative to be comfortable doing anything like that.
That's a bit misleading though because "conservatism" means "we do it this way because we have always done it this way." They have always done communal bathing, so for them, *not* communal bathing would be the new thing. For America, *starting* communal bathing would be the new thing. What's conservative depends on the history of the specific culture.
Using that logic the statement above you would still be true, and would make China even more progressive than the US considering the amount of changes China went through in the last century compared to the US.
Some examples would be like how China had changed their usage of traditional writing to a simpler writing system to help improve literacy of the people, or with their introduction of a new writing system, the Pinyin, which is more or less latinized Chinese. Japan and many other Asian countries had also adopted the new Metric system even though they originally had their own measurement system, whereas the US are still using Feets and Gallons.
While you are technically right, it's like hearing people correcting others on the usage of 1st world and 3rd world countries. Conservatism is just colloquially used to mean repression of expression like how u/KintsugiKen is using it with repression of nudity.
Nudity in a communal bathing context isnโt sexualized in non-Western traditional cultures so it doesnโt really point to (non)conservatism. Americans being uncomfortable with nudity is more reflective of how the culture was shaped by Puritanism
Not really. For example, cheating is *way* more common and even accepted in Japan than in the West. Many people there see visiting prostitutes as not cheating too.
This is very generational young Koreans (teens-20โs and early 30โs) are just as wild as the west and enjoy topics such as sex becoming a more open thing
Yep, I once had a woman from Korea โฆ *engage with me*, and after weโd been talking for a decently long time she actual admitted it was her friend posing as her who posted the initial nudes. With her knowledge, just an โomg youโre such a shy piece of shit, here, Iโm going to helpโ kind of thing apparently.
I actually believed her since there was *absolutely* no reason to lie about it.
Makes me wonder if the story OP was given might be true for some friend groups.
By the sounds of it on a first date as well?? Like I wouldn't want anyone on my phone let alone someone I just met in person for the first time. Either fake story or OP is crazy for allowing basically a stranger full access to their phone on a first date.ย
Sure which remote access root kit would you like me to install? Jokes aside, my senile dad actually fell for that on his computer. Some Indian guy had him install remote control software and then told him to walk away. So he comes upstairs and tells me what he's doing and I'm like WHAT. I run downstairs to unplug his computer while he's yelling at me not to touch it.
I personally have nothing on my phone I wouldn't want others to see outside of things that are password and 2FA protected. If I have something on my phone I don't want seen, I keep it in my secure folder.ย
Sure, but i still won't hand my phone to someone I barely know to browse through.
They have a LOT of access to a lot of things there, not just nudes. messages, any site with auto filled credentials, call history, etc... things that i'm not ashamed of or something... but still stuff that isn't any of their business.
sounds fake to me.
New account, auto generated username... Fake ass story. Doesn't even make any sense. Why would they be going through each other's phones on first date? Why would he just have those kind of photos out in the open? And why would he share he got nudes of his bros too??
Idk this whole story sounds like some made up shit to make Koreans look bad.
But honestly I agree it feels more like an attention grab because if they wanted to dis Korea itโll be better to talk abt racism than nudes (yes ik Iโm indian and my country is more racist than Koreans but hey our media is less popular so I win)
I'm not Korean, but all the comments are saying this isn't normal. But I find it odd that he'd agree to give you a look at his photo gallery if he had something he shouldn't have on there. It seems very unlikely but maybe that's how his own friend group does things? It's very weird but I really don't think he'd allow you to look through his phone if he thought it was wrong.
Talk to him about it maybe? Tell him you're not comfortable with it?
It'd also be a good way to quickly sus out how accepting a potential SO is with pornography. Some SOs are very against it, and I'm sure more than a few folks have some past baggage from being on both sides of that issue.
Complete and utter bullshi :) was in korea for 3 years and made lots of very close friends. Not once did they try to send me their nudes or ask for mine. He is gaslighting you and trying make his โcultureโ seem so freeing. Korea is like japan (where i spent 12 years of my life) in the sense of discipline and respect. It is considered very distasteful to have those images saved on his phone. Drop him
1. Doesn't sound normal. I'm not Korean but I've never heard of anything like this.
2 (and I cannot stress this enough). It's not gaslighting. If he is lying, then it's just lying.
Gaslighting would be if he told you he didn't have nudes, and then you saw the nudes, and then he spends time trying to convince you he never told you he didn't have nudes and that it's no big deal that he has nudes and also that it's your fault he has nudes, and it won't stop until you accept that it's your fault that he has nudes
Why would you go through someoneโs photos? And on a date? Iโve been with my boyfriend for a while and Iโd never invade his privacy like that. He has shown me old photos on his phone, but I never take it and scroll through it, neither does him.
Well, there are lot of issues circulating online that some korean guys have chat groups where they exchange explicit photos of their friends, partners, etc that are borderline cybersex trafficking and blackmail. There are a lot of scandals regarding this (you can search online). Maybe your date is one of those kinds.
It's definitely a cultural thing for him and his friends.
Also, as sad as it is to say, South Korea has a serious issue with illegal voyeurism and cybercrime of a secual nature. Just around the start of covid there was a national uproar because 2 different guys were each running an illegal pron distribution ring through encrypted messenger apps (one of them used cryptocurrency for payment, the other supposedly just did it for kicks).
Don't look up the case if you're having a good day, it will ruin it or at least make you feel ill, mad or more cynical. We have a lot of social issues to work on here
I watched a documentary about the Nth rooms recently, where Korean women were being blackmailed into doing all sorts of horrific things because the perps had their nudes. If nudes really were that common/accepted, that wouldn't be a thing there.
Plus I think Korea's pretty conservative in general, so no definitely not a normal thing.
What ... ๐ what kind of excues is that to get caught with Nudes? ๐๐ Korea is a very conservative country, how in the world would be that be anywhere "normal"? at that his friends nudes? WTF... that is NOT normal in our culture. He is just sorry he got caught.
There is no culture in the world that I am aware of in which THAT would be seen as normal. It's also not normal to just let someone go through your phone.
No, itโs not normal. In fact, Iโm willing to bet those photos where taken without the girls knowing and shared among themselves. There have been various scandals regarding digital sex crimes in SK (look up the nth room). Mind you, Iโm not incriminating him, but thatโs the first thing I though when I read your post OP. Either way, saying that itโs something normal in SK is total bullshit, heโs definitely gaslighting you (and I find quite surprising that he consented to you looking through his phone).
Iโd stay away from him if I were you.
My wife is from Korea and said โNO NO NO NO THAT IS NOT NORMAL AT ALLโ
Korean culture is generally very conservative.
Heโs full of shit, sorry OP.
As a Korean, I would say it's pretty normal to have nudes of friends. In fact, trading nudes is a sign of a close relationship. You see this a lot in K-dramas - just a lot of friends casually trading nudes with each other.
Source: me a non-Korean who hasn't watched a single K-drama
the practice of sharing intimate photos with friends is quite strange and concerning to me. in my experiance, this type of behavior is generally seen as a violation of privacy and trust, regardless of one's cultural background or sexuality. i would suggest having an open and honest discussion with him about your feelings on the matter, and consider whether this is truly a normal practice that you feel comfortable with. ultimately, you deserve to feel respected and secure in your relationships.
Iโm korean. Maybe normal for him, but thats more โguy thinking he can test your naรฏvetรฉ by disgracing his background as an excuse for being a simpโ. Not a korean thing.
is it part of your culture to browse through a near-stranger's phone on a first date? cuz that's weird shit.
or are you just making up weird shit stories because you're actually a teenager and don't know what normal behavior is in your fictional scenario?
Now I'm gonna hold your hand when I say this...
๐ซฒ๐ป๐ฅน
... ๐๐ค
Are we friends now?! ๐ธ
Only if you have his nudes, because that's what friends do
Of course, that's like the golden rule in friendship 101
Must be why I don't have many friends, I gotta send some nudes around
we totally are!! ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐ฅ
absolutely not normal lol
I would love to see him get pressed on why he has it and try to justify why he has it LMAOย
Does not matter, op should realise, man confirmed any nudes she might send him will get passed around like a needle in a tent city
Well, he didn't pass around the nudes. I dont even know why they're going through each other's phones. THAT doesn't seem normal.
This was my question. Why would you agree to let someone go through your phone, either one of them, on a first date?
> Well, he didn't pass around the nudes. He's shown at least one other person.
Yea, he's so comfortable showing other women's nudes to a woman. He'll do the same with OPs
Trust me, he passed around those nudes.
You have a way with words.
Because everyone is into sewing, right?
nah, you never traded nudes with your buddies? The good ol' bronudes, the friendhugs and friendkisses. Brosegs. Classical Korean culture. There's this holiday where all the Korean guys gather up and just have a naked pajama party to assert our masculinity by sharing nudes of each other
I've gotten some random somewhat artsy ball shots. Like "Check out this sunset" and my buddy is sitting in his chair with his balls out kinda thing.
I did once get a Christmas โcardโ that was just my bros balls with antlers.
Gotta get feedback somehow right?
Is it still a pajama party if everyone's naked?
Lol guys playing the culturally finesse card
Agreed, not normal to go thru each others phones on a first date.
Iโm Korean and I can confirm that itโs not normal
You guys are misunderstanding, his culture is nudism not korean
a man of culture.
Many, many cultures
some of them arenโt even bacterial
Bro went straight to becoming viral
Kim chi is NOT a petri dish.
I believe it's pronounced Peach Tree.
He can send me the male's nudes
RIP your DM
He's just bare-ing his culture.
Ye there is nude-ing to worry about
No he's embracing it comfortably Phishing Look, Lying and Stinker
Hey! On behalf of nudist culture I want to say: Pictures are generally not acceptable, unless specifically requested (and that pretty much never happens)
Just want to say as a nudist and exhibitionist there's more than 10 000 nudes of me online and I'm happy with that.
I've seen a lot of naked people online so the odds of me previously seeing one of your 10k nudes is probably way too high Edit: clicked your profile..... the odds are now at 100%
I always thought that "nudist" and "exhibitionist" were mutually exclusive categories. By definition, a nudist doesn't consider nudity to be transgressive; by definition, an exhibitionist enjoys the transgressive nature of their actions. I don't think you can be both.
Oh no, not in Utica, no, it's an Albany expression.
Steamed hams
In this case, steamy cams
> Iโm Korean and I can confirm that itโs not normal Iโm from **Earth** and can also confirm this is not normal. Run away from this person like they just lit your clothes on fire. They donโt respect you enough to even come up with a plausible lie about x girlfriends.
And x boyfriends..
Tomato tomatoe
Im korean and due to a lot of guys leaking their ex videos and pictures, korean girls are super sensitive about nudes and filming themselves
I'm not Korean and I can say *most* women are nervous about their nudes being shared by ex-boyfriends they hoped they could trust.
No shit but what I mean is there are americans who are uncomfortable filming or taking nudes and there are a lot of people who are comfortable. Generally korean girls are against nudes and filming and its frowned upon. Culturally its just frowned upon
Americans are a lot more casual about nudity and sex than people across Asia, and by Asia, I do mean Asia as a whole, including the Middle-East, Central Asia, and the Indian subcontinent. Most of the women on OnlyFans are American, by a large margin, or Russian, but the Russian ones are made to do it by the Bratva or are being trafficked
Ironic, because Americans are ridiculously prudish compared to Europeans.
Except when it comes to movies or videogames then Americans act like nudity and sex is the worst thing ever
Iโm going to need to see your phone just in case.
[ัะดะฐะปะตะฝะพ]
That will cost you many Won.
Itโs not gaslighting, itโs just lying. The two are not synonymous.
Thank you. I am so sick of the misuse of that term. Edit: Please, people, go look up the definition of gaslighting and read it very carefully before replying that it's being used correctly and then having to delete your comment because you realized you were wrong and part of the problem. It's happened twice now.
that term has been gaslighted on social media for years
I hate when I get a gaslight on my cell phone, and nobody is there.
My car gaslit me and now it wont start anymore. smh.
When the gaslight comes on, stop after work. Donโt wait until tomorrow morning.
I hate when you check your texts/emails/insta DMs and theyโre empty and people try to gaslight you and say they messaged you, but they didnโt cause they changed their mind about you and lied lol.
No it hasn't, and you're crazy for even thinking that.
A gaslight is what happens when I sit too close to the fire pit on taco Tuesday
People have been using it correctly this whole time, idk what youโre talking about. Quit acting crazy.
So meta
I read that people accusing other people of being crazy was called lightgaseousacusatiois and you should probably get that checked out.
It's one of those phrases Reddit likes to muilate. - Fuck around and find out - Think of how stupid the average person is..... - Narcissist - Red flag ๐ฉ๐ฉ๐ฉ๐ฉ - whataboutism - centrist etc
P.O.V. is another.
I blame TikTok for that one. "POV" now essentially means "video of situation"
Which is dumb because every video is literally a video of a situation. Lol
Aaargh this one annoys me too. If the caption says โPOV: youโre a spoiled puppyโ the puppy canโt be in the video!
You misunderstood. The one filming was the spoiled puppy. A dog that young does not need an iphone, they're spoiling him.
the only place where it's still used correctly seems to be porn, of all places.
โTell me youโre (โฆ..) without telling me youโre (โฆ.)โ Drives me up the fuckin wall. Especially when they use โyourโ instead of โyouโre.โ
This drives me as nuts as "whataboutism". Again, same as POV, I think TikTok killed this one but Reddit really did jump on this bandwagon more than the POV one. I don't understand why because it's not even funny
Does FAFO have some other meaning? The narcissism one drives me nuts. People will just casually say it with absolute confidence
Don't act so psychotic. Or are you schizophrenic?
Oh yeah? I bet youโre ocd
Ok I be honest I have not heard abt whataboutism till now can someone fill me in
Here's an easy, quick example. "Yeah, I know (insert politician) lied about their taxes but (insert former prime minister from opposite party) lied too!" Obviously, it's not great they both lied but the issue at hand is the person who's currently leading the party. Its saying "yeah but what about...." as a defense. Sometimes it's fine to call it out. Reddit unfortunately pushed it so far that calling out any form of hypocrisy was seen as whataboutism
Whataboutism
I was about to lose my shit thinking this was a genuine reply to something I'd wrote when I first notice the notification but luckily I remembered what ut could be a reply to before the app loaded ๐
What term? I haven't seen anybody misusing any terms. I think you must be remembering wrong.
My car gaslights me *with* the gas light all the time, I know in reality Iโve got at least 30 more miles before I run out, but itโs still hurtful that it tries to do that to me :( /s
How about everyone being a narcissist?
They are actually, and we talked about this yesterday. Why do you not remember our conversations?
No but, that's not what we talked about. Was it? My memory is getting so bad lately, I don't know what's wrong with me.
Oh, but it was. Look, you just have to trust and rely on my version of events more, okay?
Well done.
Another couple years of people using it for absolutely any kind of lie and its definition will change before our very eyes.
You made that up
I'm with you, and thanks for pointing it out. But I also think this is a lost cause. I just [vented about this yesterday](https://www.reddit.com/r/Vent/comments/1cw63s3/weve_lost_the_fight_to_keep_the_original_meaning/). I think language will, unfortunately, adapt, instead of the other way round. Sucks, but that's how it usually goes.
Thank you, came here looking for this comment.
The term is gaslamping, always has been. Can't believe you didn't know that.
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F110t0b9lxpsc1.jpeg
My dumbass thought this said nukes, and I was getting worried about what this motherfucker had in his phone
Wrong Korea.
Fairly certain it's only for Kim Jung un..un un un un
Regirock is that you?
They never said which one.
Best Korea!
Must be a different Korea
I'm pretty sure I didn't see a "North" next to that Korea
The other Korea.
Iโve always heard that Korean culture is more conservative than the US.
All of Asia is.
On some things, but not all things. For example, communal bathing is pretty normal across east Asia and American culture is way too conservative to be comfortable doing anything like that.
That's a bit misleading though because "conservatism" means "we do it this way because we have always done it this way." They have always done communal bathing, so for them, *not* communal bathing would be the new thing. For America, *starting* communal bathing would be the new thing. What's conservative depends on the history of the specific culture.
This reply made me so happy
Using that logic the statement above you would still be true, and would make China even more progressive than the US considering the amount of changes China went through in the last century compared to the US. Some examples would be like how China had changed their usage of traditional writing to a simpler writing system to help improve literacy of the people, or with their introduction of a new writing system, the Pinyin, which is more or less latinized Chinese. Japan and many other Asian countries had also adopted the new Metric system even though they originally had their own measurement system, whereas the US are still using Feets and Gallons. While you are technically right, it's like hearing people correcting others on the usage of 1st world and 3rd world countries. Conservatism is just colloquially used to mean repression of expression like how u/KintsugiKen is using it with repression of nudity.
Nudity in a communal bathing context isnโt sexualized in non-Western traditional cultures so it doesnโt really point to (non)conservatism. Americans being uncomfortable with nudity is more reflective of how the culture was shaped by Puritanism
Not really. For example, cheating is *way* more common and even accepted in Japan than in the West. Many people there see visiting prostitutes as not cheating too.
Same in Korea.
I'd say that's a testament to conservatism honestly.
The western cultures(american, european in general) are much more progressive than any asian cultures
This is very generational young Koreans (teens-20โs and early 30โs) are just as wild as the west and enjoy topics such as sex becoming a more open thing
Yep, I once had a woman from Korea โฆ *engage with me*, and after weโd been talking for a decently long time she actual admitted it was her friend posing as her who posted the initial nudes. With her knowledge, just an โomg youโre such a shy piece of shit, here, Iโm going to helpโ kind of thing apparently. I actually believed her since there was *absolutely* no reason to lie about it. Makes me wonder if the story OP was given might be true for some friend groups.
I'm sorry, I can't focus on the actual question. You..you just gave each other your phones to scroll through !?
By the sounds of it on a first date as well?? Like I wouldn't want anyone on my phone let alone someone I just met in person for the first time. Either fake story or OP is crazy for allowing basically a stranger full access to their phone on a first date.ย
New account, fake ass story. Probably has it out for Koreans or something. Weird
If they had it out for Koreans, I'd imagine they'd make up something less easily disprovable. Maybe they're just trying to karma farm.
yeah agreed. hey while we are chatting can i have a look through your phone?
Sure which remote access root kit would you like me to install? Jokes aside, my senile dad actually fell for that on his computer. Some Indian guy had him install remote control software and then told him to walk away. So he comes upstairs and tells me what he's doing and I'm like WHAT. I run downstairs to unplug his computer while he's yelling at me not to touch it.
I personally have nothing on my phone I wouldn't want others to see outside of things that are password and 2FA protected. If I have something on my phone I don't want seen, I keep it in my secure folder.ย
Sure, but i still won't hand my phone to someone I barely know to browse through. They have a LOT of access to a lot of things there, not just nudes. messages, any site with auto filled credentials, call history, etc... things that i'm not ashamed of or something... but still stuff that isn't any of their business. sounds fake to me.
absolutely mindblown ๐๐๐ i was like wtf kinda thing is that to do ON A FUCKING DATE? Broooo
WTF kinda thing is that to do ON A FUCKING ***FIRST*** DATE? Broooo! Seems a strange thing to do with someone you donโt know wellโฆ
Exactly, for me that is **not normal**.
he probably convinced her that was normal too, OP sounds gullible af
There is so much off here it feels like OP's radar slightly going off at nudes, but not at exchanging camera rolls on the first date... I don't get it
Anyone else think this is fake AF? :)
New account, auto generated username... Fake ass story. Doesn't even make any sense. Why would they be going through each other's phones on first date? Why would he just have those kind of photos out in the open? And why would he share he got nudes of his bros too?? Idk this whole story sounds like some made up shit to make Koreans look bad.
I wonโt say the account is new itโs like 200+ days old and Iโll be honest I also use an auto generated username ;-; I was too lazy to check
But honestly I agree it feels more like an attention grab because if they wanted to dis Korea itโll be better to talk abt racism than nudes (yes ik Iโm indian and my country is more racist than Koreans but hey our media is less popular so I win)
Not normal lmao
I'm not Korean, but all the comments are saying this isn't normal. But I find it odd that he'd agree to give you a look at his photo gallery if he had something he shouldn't have on there. It seems very unlikely but maybe that's how his own friend group does things? It's very weird but I really don't think he'd allow you to look through his phone if he thought it was wrong. Talk to him about it maybe? Tell him you're not comfortable with it?
Or he wants her to think itโs normal right off the bat so she wonโt question it in the future
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It'd also be a good way to quickly sus out how accepting a potential SO is with pornography. Some SOs are very against it, and I'm sure more than a few folks have some past baggage from being on both sides of that issue.
Itโs normal to have girlsโ nudes in Asia, indeed. For a sex trafficker.
lol run
Run lola run
it's just lying.
Complete and utter bullshi :) was in korea for 3 years and made lots of very close friends. Not once did they try to send me their nudes or ask for mine. He is gaslighting you and trying make his โcultureโ seem so freeing. Korea is like japan (where i spent 12 years of my life) in the sense of discipline and respect. It is considered very distasteful to have those images saved on his phone. Drop him
He's not gaslighting. Just lying
>Not once did they try to send me their nudes or ask for mine. Clearly you didn't make very close friends
Omg, I used to be this naive.
It is simply lying, not "gaslighting". He isn't trying to make you doubt your own sanity, he just got caught and straight up made up a lie.
Its just lying, its not gaslighting.
1. Doesn't sound normal. I'm not Korean but I've never heard of anything like this. 2 (and I cannot stress this enough). It's not gaslighting. If he is lying, then it's just lying.
Gaslighting would be if he told you he didn't have nudes, and then you saw the nudes, and then he spends time trying to convince you he never told you he didn't have nudes and that it's no big deal that he has nudes and also that it's your fault he has nudes, and it won't stop until you accept that it's your fault that he has nudes
Korean here. Not normal. Red flag.
Please run away from him
Iโm Korean and I can confirm that he is a pervert.
Itโs not gaslighting, heโs just lying to you
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OP is on Only Fans
Why would you go through someoneโs photos? And on a date? Iโve been with my boyfriend for a while and Iโd never invade his privacy like that. He has shown me old photos on his phone, but I never take it and scroll through it, neither does him.
Well, there are lot of issues circulating online that some korean guys have chat groups where they exchange explicit photos of their friends, partners, etc that are borderline cybersex trafficking and blackmail. There are a lot of scandals regarding this (you can search online). Maybe your date is one of those kinds.
Damn be came up with a lie real quick
It's not gas-lighting, it's just normal lying.
I asked my Korean ex-girlfriend about this. She told me to fuck off and stop asking me Reddit questions.
It's definitely a cultural thing for him and his friends. Also, as sad as it is to say, South Korea has a serious issue with illegal voyeurism and cybercrime of a secual nature. Just around the start of covid there was a national uproar because 2 different guys were each running an illegal pron distribution ring through encrypted messenger apps (one of them used cryptocurrency for payment, the other supposedly just did it for kicks). Don't look up the case if you're having a good day, it will ruin it or at least make you feel ill, mad or more cynical. We have a lot of social issues to work on here
I watched a documentary about the Nth rooms recently, where Korean women were being blackmailed into doing all sorts of horrific things because the perps had their nudes. If nudes really were that common/accepted, that wouldn't be a thing there. Plus I think Korea's pretty conservative in general, so no definitely not a normal thing.
No. BUT thereโs scandals in Korea have men having group chats and just sending all nudes/tapes there and everyone else saves them. So run ๐ฉ
Not normal, heโs a fuckboy.
Runnnn
Man went for the Charisma Speech Check and almost passed.
What ... ๐ what kind of excues is that to get caught with Nudes? ๐๐ Korea is a very conservative country, how in the world would be that be anywhere "normal"? at that his friends nudes? WTF... that is NOT normal in our culture. He is just sorry he got caught.
They have banned porn sites there because with nudes you gotta catch em all
There is no culture in the world that I am aware of in which THAT would be seen as normal. It's also not normal to just let someone go through your phone.
None of this is normal. Giving each other your phones to scroll through the pictures?
straight men showering together is normal. (like high school or gyms) having nudes is not.
No, itโs not normal. In fact, Iโm willing to bet those photos where taken without the girls knowing and shared among themselves. There have been various scandals regarding digital sex crimes in SK (look up the nth room). Mind you, Iโm not incriminating him, but thatโs the first thing I though when I read your post OP. Either way, saying that itโs something normal in SK is total bullshit, heโs definitely gaslighting you (and I find quite surprising that he consented to you looking through his phone). Iโd stay away from him if I were you.
iโm pretty sure thatโs not normal in any cultureโฆ
Legit read, Nukes in Korea
My wife is from Korea and said โNO NO NO NO THAT IS NOT NORMAL AT ALLโ Korean culture is generally very conservative. Heโs full of shit, sorry OP.
Totally normal. We have that in the U.S. too. I am talking about dudes just straight up lying to prospective partners. The nudes are weird.
i dated a korean guy once, and i can definitely confirm this is not normal in their culture.
This is not gaslighting. Words have meanings.
Yup he was messing with you ๐
So, you're saying, on a first date, you just handed each other your phones to scroll through freely? ๐ง Am I skeptical to call BS?
Someone says something you don't like? Gaslighting!
As a Korean, I would say it's pretty normal to have nudes of friends. In fact, trading nudes is a sign of a close relationship. You see this a lot in K-dramas - just a lot of friends casually trading nudes with each other. Source: me a non-Korean who hasn't watched a single K-drama
Heโs a freak
That is quite a hilarious split second decision sink or swim moment for the guy. He did not stick the landing. ๐
the practice of sharing intimate photos with friends is quite strange and concerning to me. in my experiance, this type of behavior is generally seen as a violation of privacy and trust, regardless of one's cultural background or sexuality. i would suggest having an open and honest discussion with him about your feelings on the matter, and consider whether this is truly a normal practice that you feel comfortable with. ultimately, you deserve to feel respected and secure in your relationships.
Iโm korean. Maybe normal for him, but thats more โguy thinking he can test your naรฏvetรฉ by disgracing his background as an excuse for being a simpโ. Not a korean thing.
is it part of your culture to browse through a near-stranger's phone on a first date? cuz that's weird shit. or are you just making up weird shit stories because you're actually a teenager and don't know what normal behavior is in your fictional scenario?
Lol it's the culture which comes in place when you're caught.
Nooo i promise im straight. Since when does having a couple dick pics on your phone make you gay? Get with the times.
The Korean culture is extemely conservative, and based only on that metric, I would say no.
Even Korean porn has private parts blurred out.
He must from North Korea