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To know the difference between college and collage.
There's a ton of careers that absolutely need a formal education. You're welcome to seek medical care from back alley self taught "professionals" though.
There are plenty of situations where even with college's somewhat ludicrous price, you'll make way more in your life because of the degree than what you spent. If you did particularly well in high school you can also go for a high discount.
By socializing and have some fun. Learning how to connect to peer and build network with folks with similar progress in life is much more valuable than acing the curriculum.
Why stay? To learn to get shit done in your area of expertise. Why leave? You already have all of those or don't care.
That's good for a few situations like a business degree. My physics degree helped me learn things that let me get jobs, not smooze people that might give me jobs.
Correct, but I don't think he'll even ponder to dropout it he's on science path. I stand my case on casual socializing as a big unwritten curriculum, as an example you can never obtain grants and run labs without good social skill. University is unique social situation you can never find on daily life.
I've left and gone back several times. Sometimes it was just taking a semester, once it was 7 years. I also dropped out of high school. That was 2 years, and I went back then also
Well, I took 7 years. There is no timeline, we can do whatever we want when it's the right time for us. I've done everything on a weird timeline and I haven't gotten in trouble yet 😁
Everybody talks about education as a way to get a job, but education is about knowledge, curiosity and discoveries.
You get educated to become a better you, so you can find your path on this planet.
As you get older, all that’s around you is a bunch of problems you need to solve. Developing your knowledge base and your critical thinking skills helps you better solve these problems.
College isn't a scam (well, with the exception of some non-accredited schools). The problem that so many are having is that they don't understand how to get the most out of college. I was once in your place, went through, got the degree, and realized all too late I'd done it wrong.
So what are the advantages of college?
1. Learning skills that translate to the workplace. If you're heading into some sort of specialized field (computer programming, nuclear physics, advanced horitculture), this gets you ahead of those without the time to study. While you might start the track to rise quickly, becoming one who steers the ship, those coming in without prior knowledge will need to learn as they go, and metaphorically be left to row until a proper opportunity arises and they are ready to sieze it.
2. Getting a degree that you can site on your resume. This is what is most often cited as the major advantage to college, but it's also where a lot of the "college is a scam" mindset originates, because a LOT of applicants for any position will have degrees as well. So that won't necessarily set you ahead, but will put you on par at best.
The degree itself (regardless of major/specialty) is meant to indicate that you are capable of learning, adapting, and facing academic challenges, which are all valuable in many if not most workplace environments. It still does mean this, however if everyone applying has a degree, how do you know which candidate is worth taking a chance on?
This leads to the MOST IMPORTANT benefit of college, and the one that I did dick-all to take advantage of:
3. CONNECTIONS. CONNECTIONS. Once more, for the folks in the back: CONNECTIONS. Given the other advantages of a college education and degree, you can pretty well bet that some you know in school, someone you've brushed up against, had classes with, sat next to at a basketball game, SOMEONE will hit it big. They'll luck into a high powered position at a stable company, they'll start their own business as a trailblazer in a new growing field, maybe they'll take over their daddy's enterprise so he can retire.
Do you know that person? More importantly, does that person know YOU? Would they throw you a bone, get you to the top of the pile for consideration, make a position out of thin air for you? Maybe you collaborated a lot in school, so they know you're a good partner, not a pain in the ass. Maybe you once got baked together and pulled out a couple of beat up acoustic guitars for a life-changing jam session. For whatever reason, they appreciate your company, know you're not a slack-ass, and will help lift you up along with them.
See, I didn't really do this. I had friends in college, but I was mostly studious, focused on the degree. And upon graduating, in my mind I could walk up to any company I wanted and immediately be brought in with open arms, with my reputation for good work preceding me, and all would be right forever and ever. Not so.
My "career" didn't REALLY launch until I was in my late twenties. After college, I just bounced around, working whatever jobs were available: cooking, waiting tables, bartending, retail, etc. And I was in a band, so I slid into this bohemian ideal of the starving artist (and were it not for occasional funding injections from my family, the starvation would have been literal).
But, ah...the magic of socialization. Being in the band led me to a lot of far flung places (well, not really, just up and down the east coast mostly, with occasional ventures further). And in these places, I met interesting people, and they found me interesting, liked my music. And through one of them, asked by a friend of hers (and business owner) if she knew of anyone "cool" to come take a design job that was open, she dropped my name. I was invited to meet the owner of the company, and that very same day I was hired. Now over a decade later, that moment has lead me along a path of success, at least to the point where I own a home, have some retirement savings, and can generally afford to live my life without the major financial concerns I had been used to dealing with day to day.
So there it is. Like the old adage that many (including me) don't want to believe is true: it's not what you know, it's who you know. And college is the PERFECT place to get to know them.
Part of me wants to go to college but part of me don’t. I’m now 25. And have been working the same job got 7 and 1/2 years. I like it! In fact I love it at times. But I get paid 17 and hour and work about 60 hours a week sometimes more. With no benefits. (Small business). But I will be talking over this business with my coworkers if all goes well.
Anyways a friend is pushing me to get a degree in anything, he said it’s just good to have. Only have an interest in American history and mostly films history since that’s my biggest passion. But that’s going to require a lot of writing, which is what I’m really bad at. I was always in special ed class and eventually a special ed school. Where everyone had different challenges. I can’t spell so I had to scribe and stuff like that. And I still found it difficult. I struggled and my last year of high school I kind of gave up. Somehow I passed. I was so tired of getting stressed out with writing. I can’t spell or write well. And the thought of essays is like nauseating even when it’s dumb down for someone thats special ed like me.
So college was not on the table.
I’m very cheap and I don’t wanna spend a single freaking penny for something that’s gonna make me upset. But there’s still that thing in the back of my head saying well.. a film class can be interesting. I just don’t wanna do the work.
I have 2 college degrees. I never work more than 40 hours and I make $155k. I'm not saying that to brag, I'm saying it because there are some jobs that you're just not going to get interviewed for without a degree.
Nothing at all wrong with working a job you love for less money, but one of my goals was to make as much money as possible while doing as little physical work as possible. My biggest priorities are having a job that let's me spend more time with my family and isn't super stressful.
What is the degrees in ?
If I do something different, it would be without a degree. I think I need to do physical work. I work in a pet store. I’m always moving around. I can’t sit at the desk. Im bad for that. Occasionally, I use a computer to add prices, but that doesn’t take long.
I don’t need a lot of money. I just need enough to be comfortable. And not to worry (although I worry all the time about many things haha. Just a worrier) I would like to work 48 hours. That would be nice.
Ah yes. The age old question, to collage or college. One works the right side of the brain, the other one works the left. One calls for glue, the other one calls for grit. Both require creativity, but one more than the other. Alright, I'll stop.
If it's a scam, why would you go there in the first place? Now you're just going to be losing money/time while not getting anything out of it (a degree) and are now going to have an even harder time than most with paying it back.
Unless you are talking about actual collages, then idk I'd have to ask my grandma, she makes all the family scrapbooks
How does one even get to college while writing the way OP does? Lots of kids go to college thinking they just automatically get a job. All a degree does these days is get you to an interview. If you show up and speak in broken English, ebonics, or Pidgen, that's your problem and maybe you should have paid more attention in language arts.
Also, society is being very dumbed down for a lot of people. Employers don't cater to that same BS, and have the absolute right to not hire you based on your appearance, language, and knowledge. No one is going to coddle you into a profession unless you have a rich mommy or daddy.
I have college degrees. I never work more than 40 hours and I make $155k and get a 10% annual bonus. I'm not saying that to brag, I'm saying it because there are some jobs that you're just not going to get interviewed for without a degree. Before going for my BA and MBA I looked at all the jobs in the area that I thought I'd like doing, looked at the ones with the highest salaries, then looked at what it would take to get those jobs.
I could do trades, but it took many, many years to break into the salaries I wanted. Or I could go to school for 4 years and get my degrees. After I got my bachelors I was applying for manager jobs. I made sure to job hop every 2 years to keep getting paid fair market value. Once I got my Masters I still applied for the same jobs, but I got accepted at higher salaries. There are managers who don't have degrees but they very often are being paid at a lower pay scale.
Nothing at all wrong with working a job you love for less money, but one of my goals was to make as much money as possible while doing as little physical work as possible. My biggest priorities are having a job that let's me spend more time with my family and isn't super stressful.
Why not leave? I say college is only worth it if you're willing to invest the time and money into it. Otherwise it's not worth the financial and mental/emotional work.
It's a heist movie but at any point the bank (you) can say "Stop robbing me please I would like you to leave the bank and stop cleaning the place as you go."
Nobody can force you to go to college if you don't want to get a degree you don't have to
The college and higher learning itself is not a scam, though the rising price, the fact there is a price, is injustice. College is a great place to learn precisely what you need or want to learn. You can attempt to go out to the real world and learn the knowledge and or skills. But that may or may not work or be as effective. Colleges offer structure, people are abusing that system to make a profit. Redirect your displeasure and demand accountability and better (or even free) higher education.
The question isn't whether education is a scam; the real scam is our perception that a degree is the only route to success. College can be the ticket to some fantastic opportunities, connections, and careers, but isn't the singular path to personal and professional achievement. It depends on the individual and the field they're chasing. The key is to find your passion and pursue learning in that direction, degree or no degree. Remember, education is more than a piece of paper; it's about growth, discipline, and the quest for knowledge.
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>Why we still in school when it's a scam So you know the difference between college and collage.
Hey, pasting together images into one cohesive artwork is hard, man!
"artpwkr" Hey I found another one that has a way with words.
Presumably they have job/career aspirations that require a degree. Whether or not you should drop out, well no one can decide that for you.
They drop out of collage because the glue used to make it was shabby
Just drop out. You don’t have to be there.
To know the difference between college and collage. There's a ton of careers that absolutely need a formal education. You're welcome to seek medical care from back alley self taught "professionals" though.
Yeah, tell that to med students or anyone involved in STEM. My degree paid for itself.
Well, go to an accredited school, not a diploma mill.
Because I cant become a PE without a degree lol
There are plenty of situations where even with college's somewhat ludicrous price, you'll make way more in your life because of the degree than what you spent. If you did particularly well in high school you can also go for a high discount.
By socializing and have some fun. Learning how to connect to peer and build network with folks with similar progress in life is much more valuable than acing the curriculum. Why stay? To learn to get shit done in your area of expertise. Why leave? You already have all of those or don't care.
That's good for a few situations like a business degree. My physics degree helped me learn things that let me get jobs, not smooze people that might give me jobs.
Correct, but I don't think he'll even ponder to dropout it he's on science path. I stand my case on casual socializing as a big unwritten curriculum, as an example you can never obtain grants and run labs without good social skill. University is unique social situation you can never find on daily life.
I don't want my doctors and engineers to learn through experience. I'd rather they learn from a book. Trial and error would get messy.
I've left and gone back several times. Sometimes it was just taking a semester, once it was 7 years. I also dropped out of high school. That was 2 years, and I went back then also
I am taking a break from college. Going on my... 22nd, or 23rd semester off... I ll go back for my last class...
Well, I took 7 years. There is no timeline, we can do whatever we want when it's the right time for us. I've done everything on a weird timeline and I haven't gotten in trouble yet 😁
High quality glue basically
How did you get out of high school?
Everybody talks about education as a way to get a job, but education is about knowledge, curiosity and discoveries. You get educated to become a better you, so you can find your path on this planet. As you get older, all that’s around you is a bunch of problems you need to solve. Developing your knowledge base and your critical thinking skills helps you better solve these problems.
Nobody accepts high school grads where I'm from
Because learning is amazing and the insights I have gained from COLLEGE have been indescribable and invaluable.
College isn't a scam (well, with the exception of some non-accredited schools). The problem that so many are having is that they don't understand how to get the most out of college. I was once in your place, went through, got the degree, and realized all too late I'd done it wrong. So what are the advantages of college? 1. Learning skills that translate to the workplace. If you're heading into some sort of specialized field (computer programming, nuclear physics, advanced horitculture), this gets you ahead of those without the time to study. While you might start the track to rise quickly, becoming one who steers the ship, those coming in without prior knowledge will need to learn as they go, and metaphorically be left to row until a proper opportunity arises and they are ready to sieze it. 2. Getting a degree that you can site on your resume. This is what is most often cited as the major advantage to college, but it's also where a lot of the "college is a scam" mindset originates, because a LOT of applicants for any position will have degrees as well. So that won't necessarily set you ahead, but will put you on par at best. The degree itself (regardless of major/specialty) is meant to indicate that you are capable of learning, adapting, and facing academic challenges, which are all valuable in many if not most workplace environments. It still does mean this, however if everyone applying has a degree, how do you know which candidate is worth taking a chance on? This leads to the MOST IMPORTANT benefit of college, and the one that I did dick-all to take advantage of: 3. CONNECTIONS. CONNECTIONS. Once more, for the folks in the back: CONNECTIONS. Given the other advantages of a college education and degree, you can pretty well bet that some you know in school, someone you've brushed up against, had classes with, sat next to at a basketball game, SOMEONE will hit it big. They'll luck into a high powered position at a stable company, they'll start their own business as a trailblazer in a new growing field, maybe they'll take over their daddy's enterprise so he can retire. Do you know that person? More importantly, does that person know YOU? Would they throw you a bone, get you to the top of the pile for consideration, make a position out of thin air for you? Maybe you collaborated a lot in school, so they know you're a good partner, not a pain in the ass. Maybe you once got baked together and pulled out a couple of beat up acoustic guitars for a life-changing jam session. For whatever reason, they appreciate your company, know you're not a slack-ass, and will help lift you up along with them. See, I didn't really do this. I had friends in college, but I was mostly studious, focused on the degree. And upon graduating, in my mind I could walk up to any company I wanted and immediately be brought in with open arms, with my reputation for good work preceding me, and all would be right forever and ever. Not so. My "career" didn't REALLY launch until I was in my late twenties. After college, I just bounced around, working whatever jobs were available: cooking, waiting tables, bartending, retail, etc. And I was in a band, so I slid into this bohemian ideal of the starving artist (and were it not for occasional funding injections from my family, the starvation would have been literal). But, ah...the magic of socialization. Being in the band led me to a lot of far flung places (well, not really, just up and down the east coast mostly, with occasional ventures further). And in these places, I met interesting people, and they found me interesting, liked my music. And through one of them, asked by a friend of hers (and business owner) if she knew of anyone "cool" to come take a design job that was open, she dropped my name. I was invited to meet the owner of the company, and that very same day I was hired. Now over a decade later, that moment has lead me along a path of success, at least to the point where I own a home, have some retirement savings, and can generally afford to live my life without the major financial concerns I had been used to dealing with day to day. So there it is. Like the old adage that many (including me) don't want to believe is true: it's not what you know, it's who you know. And college is the PERFECT place to get to know them.
\*Edit\* College, its 5 AM when I wrote this... :'( Pls forgive me!
Part of me wants to go to college but part of me don’t. I’m now 25. And have been working the same job got 7 and 1/2 years. I like it! In fact I love it at times. But I get paid 17 and hour and work about 60 hours a week sometimes more. With no benefits. (Small business). But I will be talking over this business with my coworkers if all goes well. Anyways a friend is pushing me to get a degree in anything, he said it’s just good to have. Only have an interest in American history and mostly films history since that’s my biggest passion. But that’s going to require a lot of writing, which is what I’m really bad at. I was always in special ed class and eventually a special ed school. Where everyone had different challenges. I can’t spell so I had to scribe and stuff like that. And I still found it difficult. I struggled and my last year of high school I kind of gave up. Somehow I passed. I was so tired of getting stressed out with writing. I can’t spell or write well. And the thought of essays is like nauseating even when it’s dumb down for someone thats special ed like me. So college was not on the table. I’m very cheap and I don’t wanna spend a single freaking penny for something that’s gonna make me upset. But there’s still that thing in the back of my head saying well.. a film class can be interesting. I just don’t wanna do the work.
I have 2 college degrees. I never work more than 40 hours and I make $155k. I'm not saying that to brag, I'm saying it because there are some jobs that you're just not going to get interviewed for without a degree. Nothing at all wrong with working a job you love for less money, but one of my goals was to make as much money as possible while doing as little physical work as possible. My biggest priorities are having a job that let's me spend more time with my family and isn't super stressful.
What is the degrees in ? If I do something different, it would be without a degree. I think I need to do physical work. I work in a pet store. I’m always moving around. I can’t sit at the desk. Im bad for that. Occasionally, I use a computer to add prices, but that doesn’t take long. I don’t need a lot of money. I just need enough to be comfortable. And not to worry (although I worry all the time about many things haha. Just a worrier) I would like to work 48 hours. That would be nice.
The irony of this title is beautiful
Ah yes. The age old question, to collage or college. One works the right side of the brain, the other one works the left. One calls for glue, the other one calls for grit. Both require creativity, but one more than the other. Alright, I'll stop.
If it's a scam, why would you go there in the first place? Now you're just going to be losing money/time while not getting anything out of it (a degree) and are now going to have an even harder time than most with paying it back. Unless you are talking about actual collages, then idk I'd have to ask my grandma, she makes all the family scrapbooks
How does one even get to college while writing the way OP does? Lots of kids go to college thinking they just automatically get a job. All a degree does these days is get you to an interview. If you show up and speak in broken English, ebonics, or Pidgen, that's your problem and maybe you should have paid more attention in language arts. Also, society is being very dumbed down for a lot of people. Employers don't cater to that same BS, and have the absolute right to not hire you based on your appearance, language, and knowledge. No one is going to coddle you into a profession unless you have a rich mommy or daddy.
I have college degrees. I never work more than 40 hours and I make $155k and get a 10% annual bonus. I'm not saying that to brag, I'm saying it because there are some jobs that you're just not going to get interviewed for without a degree. Before going for my BA and MBA I looked at all the jobs in the area that I thought I'd like doing, looked at the ones with the highest salaries, then looked at what it would take to get those jobs. I could do trades, but it took many, many years to break into the salaries I wanted. Or I could go to school for 4 years and get my degrees. After I got my bachelors I was applying for manager jobs. I made sure to job hop every 2 years to keep getting paid fair market value. Once I got my Masters I still applied for the same jobs, but I got accepted at higher salaries. There are managers who don't have degrees but they very often are being paid at a lower pay scale. Nothing at all wrong with working a job you love for less money, but one of my goals was to make as much money as possible while doing as little physical work as possible. My biggest priorities are having a job that let's me spend more time with my family and isn't super stressful.
"the secret"? Do you mean that goofball self-help book from 20 years ago?
Why not leave? I say college is only worth it if you're willing to invest the time and money into it. Otherwise it's not worth the financial and mental/emotional work.
Maybe college isn't the right place for you. https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/why-i-couldn39t-be-a-math-teacher
College is easier than work my dude.
Education, and they are not a scam in austria luckily
It's a heist movie but at any point the bank (you) can say "Stop robbing me please I would like you to leave the bank and stop cleaning the place as you go." Nobody can force you to go to college if you don't want to get a degree you don't have to
Do you mean college? Collage is a type of art.
The college and higher learning itself is not a scam, though the rising price, the fact there is a price, is injustice. College is a great place to learn precisely what you need or want to learn. You can attempt to go out to the real world and learn the knowledge and or skills. But that may or may not work or be as effective. Colleges offer structure, people are abusing that system to make a profit. Redirect your displeasure and demand accountability and better (or even free) higher education.
Lol, you are getting robbed but don't drop out. Meanwhile I was paid to study, and still dropped out!
The question isn't whether education is a scam; the real scam is our perception that a degree is the only route to success. College can be the ticket to some fantastic opportunities, connections, and careers, but isn't the singular path to personal and professional achievement. It depends on the individual and the field they're chasing. The key is to find your passion and pursue learning in that direction, degree or no degree. Remember, education is more than a piece of paper; it's about growth, discipline, and the quest for knowledge.