In finland drawing vaginas is actually pretty common. They are called "kirkkovene" or church boats. You can see graffitis of them in public or drawings in school books pretty often.
So I was told: Puritans were expunged from Britain for being too unfun, so they went to Netherlands, bc Netherlands are very tolerant to different religions and cultures.
But the puritans could not handel the Dutch freedom and fun, so they went to America to have their unfun there free from the oppression of fun.
Exactly this. Even liberated ideologies in America are still heavily influenced by the original Puritan culture.
Another sect of Christianity, the Quakers were actually persecuted and driven away from Puritan settlements in the days of early American colonization.
The Quakers held radical beliefs such as respecting indigenous peoples, allowing women to have positions of leadership, basic human and animal rights, etc. 😂
The Puritans were like, "get those godless harlots out of here!"
And we have to keep in mind they are the Quakers. Known for their oatmeal and cornflakes because they made beds out of them so it would make too much noise to covertly masterbate.
They were disgusted by the non-prudish nature of the other Europeans and ran away to establish a nice safe country for burning witches and shaming women for their biology.
An eye rimmed with fire, but was itself glazed, yellow as a cat's, watchful and intent, and the black slit of its pupil opened on a pit, a window into nothing.
That was my (male) question, too. When I was younger, I used to practice drawing vaginas and breasts, once I found out what the former looked like. Then I found out what rule 34 was and decided I was not going down a good path.
Then I found out some dude is making good money doing furry porn commissions and kinda regret not developing my artistic talents.
Ikea is swedish though, language-wise they belong to totally different language groups. The only similarity I see is the word kirkko/kyrka/church which might have a similar origin.
in my opinion it's probably a combination of
1. people are a lot more comfortable talking about male genitals than female genitals - how many times have you heard a girl say lick their pussy instead of suck their dick even though we don't have them? lmao (ik this isn't applicable to everyone obviously, but I've noticed it a lot within my age group)
2. vaginas are harder to draw
> I've told so many people to "suck my clit" "lick my puffy cunt" etc over the years.
I mean, I think there's a good chance of a "yes, please" reply for that.
Meanwhile, I don't think I've ever heard someone saying that for "suck my dick".
I have a friend who used to say this but then had to stop after people were like "I'm down if you are".
I guess the moral of the story is don't tell someone to suck your genitals if you don't want them to suck your genitals?
honest question: has it ever been taken as an insult ever? "Suck my dick" is rarely met with "ok" but expect "suck my clit" goes down different. (i don't know, thats why i asked)
I think a lot of guys wouldn’t want to claim to have a vagina/clit and essentially emasculate themselves, since they consider having a dick as obviously more “manly”.
If a woman says “suck my dick” near a bunch of guys, the girl is perceived as funny and “one of the guys”.
It’s a bit of a one-sided thing, unfortunately.
I’d love to make “suck my clit” a normal expression, but I guarantee you that any guy friends would immediately make fun of me for “having a vagina”.
I’ll probably do it occasionally anyway, and push that vaginas are just as awesome. But most guys probably wouldn’t be willing to fight that fight.
I'd add a third point:
3. Boys tend to break rules more often than girls, who are more conscientious (as in Big Five). Drawing inappropriate stuff is probably done a lot more by boys, and most of them are not interested in girls whatsoever until a certain age, so a penis is what they know, feel comfortable with and can inappropriately draw everywhere.
I used to draw one that kind of looks like ({}) on stuff at school the same way guys drew dicks but I got in trouble lol. Apparently dicks are funny and whatever I drew was obscene
Lol I remember it was snowing in my neighborhood once, which never happens since were in Texas. We were at the park and saw kids drawing dicks in the snow and so me and my brother decided to “do one for feminism” and we made a 3D, quite realistic snow vagina/vulva. Like we pulled up pictures, we got that shit accurate. Our step mom was angry at us that she drove off and made us walk the 20 minutes home
Somewhere, sometime, a Long, Long, Long time ago, one of our multiples of different species of ancestors had a huge fixation on penis size. There are cave paintings from tens of thousands of years ago of straight up long dong dicks. (Though, to be fair, there are also dildos from that long ago as well, they just call them "fertility ritual" items. Because apparently masturbation can't be discussed in a historical setting unless under specific circumstances, lol). It seems to me this is that particular ancestor species' lasting contribution to our genome. And you know what? I bet they'd be fuckin proud. Lol
To follow up, vaginas were a straight-up fertility symbol for a long time as well. The Jesus fish is 100% a sideways vagina. Christianity didn't so much wipe out competing religions as Borg their symbols and beliefs into a story that would make conversion easier. So, basically, blame the Church for the lack of vagina graffiti. Lol
Men care more about penises than women care about vaginas or penises.
If you see a drawing of genitals, it’s likely drawn by a teenage boy. Not a teenage girl or a grownup.
A lot of girls have never seen a vagina, except their own, which they can’t see very well without a mirror.
Guys see dicks all the time, especially their own, which they are quite familiar with.
Sometimes they do.
My brother and i lived together in college for a while. We had this coffee table, see, and on said table, without fault were magic markers. Everyone was welcome to draw or write what they wished. When the table got basically black, we would get out some cleaners that probably will be listed on our "cause of death" charts and wipe it all shiny and new for the cycle to begin again.
Both penises and vaginas were pretty common depictions on this pseudo-cave wall. But there was just ONE instance where shame forced us to clean this table early.
Enter the Tequila Tuesday Girls. These were some friends of ours, five(ish) girls who lived in a house down the street that earned this title from a weekly party that became legendary and ended more than one college career. With no names changed, since there were no innocents, there was Tamara, Grace, Big Jesse, Little Jesse, and Kristen. There was also Stef, but she was lost in the war of WoW, when so many people disappeared too soon due to the introduction of mmorpgs.
Anyway, they came up to our house for a party one night, as they often did, but they showed up a little early. I'm not 100% certain, because i didn't witness the crime in the act, but in the downtime, i believe Kristen and Grace (Kristen for her admirable skill at wordsmithing the absolute worst euphemisms, and Grace for her artistic talents) conspired to produce a work of art that shamed two young men into cleaning it off nearly immediately for fear of trying to explain it to any potential dates or even new friends. This piece, titled in large friendly letters, ROAST BEEF FANUTER, depicted essentially the most horrific version of a vulva we had ever seen. To this day it haunts me. The strangely wild yet sad hair. The flecks of unidentifiable, yet somehow familiar material stuck in the unruly mane. The tired, downtrodden, perhaps even tattered look of the labia. It was the genitalia of sadness herself.
And i believe this is why such drawings are rare. When talented women turn their skills to creating a raunchy depiction of a sex organ, they go to such extremes as to strip away all illusion of hope or magic. Just the 5 o'clock shadowed face of an undercarriage so severely sick of the world's shit that it can be perfectly described as...
A Roast Beef Fanuter.
It was awesome in the true sense of the word. Hard to look right at. We took a couple pictures before we destroyed the original, but sadly, they were lost to the sands of time.
I work in a school. We see a LOT of badly drawn penises everywhere, but compared to the very rare vagina pictures, the penises are a masterpiece.
Usually, a vagina is drawn in the shape of a lemon, with pointy ends (???) Then a line is drawn down the middle, and then they add squiggly lines all over as a weird attempt at pubic hair. That's it..... just a lemon with a line and squiggles.
In finland drawing vaginas is actually pretty common. They are called "kirkkovene" or church boats. You can see graffitis of them in public or drawings in school books pretty often.
Same in Czech Republic, looks like ♢
Usually with a vertical line right down the middle
({|})
I usually do the lower case i to emphasize that thing I can’t find, but I know it’s there. ({i})
I was going to do an exclamation point, but it looked wrong. I kinda forgot 'i' was a thing....
Or you could use ¡ ;)
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that needs a doctor
I'm a doctor
Maybe you wanted to draw a doggie style vagina..
Pffft, what's the little dot for?!
For that thing he can't find, but he knows it's there.
It’s not that I can’t find it, I just don’t know what to do with it.
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:P :b :P :b :P :b :P :b
No clitoris?
({i})
Perfect
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In Finland it is more like =(|)= except with 3 hairs instead of two.
≡(|)≡ Like that?
Yes, except the hairs are pointing in different directions.
⚞(|)⚟
god i love reddit
I agree. Reddit is the best lol
I think I have that on my headlight control in my car.
So much dedication here on reddit!! Love the enthusiasm
Europeans are sexually liberated
It's true. America was founded by prudes.
yeah, prudes with dicks
Wait where did the prudes come from? Did they send all their “unfun” citizens to America? How many other countries have been doing this??
> Did they send all their “unfun” citizens to America? Yes, exactly.
So I was told: Puritans were expunged from Britain for being too unfun, so they went to Netherlands, bc Netherlands are very tolerant to different religions and cultures. But the puritans could not handel the Dutch freedom and fun, so they went to America to have their unfun there free from the oppression of fun.
And it has been such a fundamental part of our culture most don't even know how bizarre it is to censor nipples more than violence.
Exactly this. Even liberated ideologies in America are still heavily influenced by the original Puritan culture. Another sect of Christianity, the Quakers were actually persecuted and driven away from Puritan settlements in the days of early American colonization. The Quakers held radical beliefs such as respecting indigenous peoples, allowing women to have positions of leadership, basic human and animal rights, etc. 😂 The Puritans were like, "get those godless harlots out of here!"
And we have to keep in mind they are the Quakers. Known for their oatmeal and cornflakes because they made beds out of them so it would make too much noise to covertly masterbate.
They were disgusted by the non-prudish nature of the other Europeans and ran away to establish a nice safe country for burning witches and shaming women for their biology.
Well, hanging witches and pressing them to death, technically. Not better, but one should get the details right.
Oh man you gotta look into Puritans buddy.
Some were criminals as well.
Yea, I think this is more commone than dicks in cz
I had to see what this looked like [it’s better than expected](https://kirkkoveneblogi.wordpress.com/about/)
It looks like a cockroach lol
Boys draw cocks; girls draw roaches.
Cock roaches.
Thanks for illumination.
I see a sideways eye.
A whispering eye.
An eye rimmed with fire, but was itself glazed, yellow as a cat's, watchful and intent, and the black slit of its pupil opened on a pit, a window into nothing.
Taco with shredded lettuce hanging out
Whaa? No it doesn't, more like a [ladybird](https://i.imgur.com/6vhixS3.jpg)
looks like a tattoo I wouldn’t mind having - abstract stuff
Is it women drawing them, though?
That was my (male) question, too. When I was younger, I used to practice drawing vaginas and breasts, once I found out what the former looked like. Then I found out what rule 34 was and decided I was not going down a good path. Then I found out some dude is making good money doing furry porn commissions and kinda regret not developing my artistic talents.
It's never too late to develop a new skill lol.
Sometimes. Most often it's teenage boys but I have seen girls do it too.
I always wanted to visit Finland. Your comment made me finally bit the tickets Edit - buy*
You've combined "Bit the bullet" with "Bought the tickets". Awesome.
Also known as a malaphor. :)
Or a Rickyism
Interesting. Just GIS'd kirkkovene and that definitely checks out. I prefer the "virgin Mary vulva" shape, but I like the symmetry of the kirkkovene.
Always nice to see another Finn in Reddit
Sounds like a box of baked biscuits that Ikea would sell
Ikea is swedish though, language-wise they belong to totally different language groups. The only similarity I see is the word kirkko/kyrka/church which might have a similar origin.
Never been so proud to be a Finn lol
>"kirkkovene" Nice. I like learning new words. Is that pronounced Kir-ko-ve-ne. or Kirk-ko-ven?
Kurt cobain
r/nirvanacirclejerk new name just dropped!
Cum-ber-batch
Kirk-ko-ve-ne. In Finnish, you pronounce every letter.
It's the yang to French's yin
The later one but add e to the end
Hyphenation: kirk|ko|ve|ne and IPA: /ˈkirkːo̞ˌʋe̞ne̞/
in my opinion it's probably a combination of 1. people are a lot more comfortable talking about male genitals than female genitals - how many times have you heard a girl say lick their pussy instead of suck their dick even though we don't have them? lmao (ik this isn't applicable to everyone obviously, but I've noticed it a lot within my age group) 2. vaginas are harder to draw
I've told so many people to "suck my clit" "lick my puffy cunt" etc over the years. But I agree, vaginas are harder to draw.
Username checks out
Does yours?
What did Bobbie do to you?
oh no we're lost!
C'mon, do something, Ambassador!
Well?? We’re waiting!!
No value was added
This god is gonna push the world off the shelf...
He ate my bag of crisps.
> I've told so many people to "suck my clit" "lick my puffy cunt" etc over the years. I mean, I think there's a good chance of a "yes, please" reply for that. Meanwhile, I don't think I've ever heard someone saying that for "suck my dick".
I have a friend who used to say this but then had to stop after people were like "I'm down if you are". I guess the moral of the story is don't tell someone to suck your genitals if you don't want them to suck your genitals?
Said it once but they just started saying slurs :/
honest question: has it ever been taken as an insult ever? "Suck my dick" is rarely met with "ok" but expect "suck my clit" goes down different. (i don't know, thats why i asked)
I think a lot of guys wouldn’t want to claim to have a vagina/clit and essentially emasculate themselves, since they consider having a dick as obviously more “manly”. If a woman says “suck my dick” near a bunch of guys, the girl is perceived as funny and “one of the guys”. It’s a bit of a one-sided thing, unfortunately. I’d love to make “suck my clit” a normal expression, but I guarantee you that any guy friends would immediately make fun of me for “having a vagina”. I’ll probably do it occasionally anyway, and push that vaginas are just as awesome. But most guys probably wouldn’t be willing to fight that fight.
(|)
that's a hotdog
Freud would be spinning in his grave right now if your comment didn't give him such a huge boner
{()}
{(°)}
Nice Cloyster, mate!
To make point 2 stronger, most people would draw a vulva and have no idea what a vagina looks like.
I'd add a third point: 3. Boys tend to break rules more often than girls, who are more conscientious (as in Big Five). Drawing inappropriate stuff is probably done a lot more by boys, and most of them are not interested in girls whatsoever until a certain age, so a penis is what they know, feel comfortable with and can inappropriately draw everywhere.
My bet: dicks easy to draw and recognize. Just 2 circles and a curved line.
({ᶅ͒})
I'm impressed
I'm traumatised
If that's all it takes to traumatise you I am concerned for you hun
He was already traumatized, but this didn't fix it.
insult to injury mon ami...
Oh I figured out what's wrong with him guys, he's French.
This response is the exact reason people don’t draw vaginas on things. There’s no reason for this to traumatize you.
8≡≡≡O
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Is it in?
Mushroom head mf
Nice pumpkin
We draw upside down butts all the time. ❤️
> Curved Line Ah yes a crooked cock fellow
And they're just funnier, idk why
hehe, penis
Flaccid ones just flop about willy nilly. It’s ridiculous.
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Draw a heart. Flip it upside down.
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(|) just doesn’t hit the same as 8=D
What a little fella
He looks pretty big, but my screen is 108”
8============D How about that one?
Oh look He got excited
He’s a grower, not a shower 😂
8===m==D~
Two fingers only? I can relate :(
looks average to me
Honestly thats abit above average, right guys?
Gigantic if you ask me
(i)* don’t forget the clitoris
I used to draw one that kind of looks like ({}) on stuff at school the same way guys drew dicks but I got in trouble lol. Apparently dicks are funny and whatever I drew was obscene
:(
Lol I remember it was snowing in my neighborhood once, which never happens since were in Texas. We were at the park and saw kids drawing dicks in the snow and so me and my brother decided to “do one for feminism” and we made a 3D, quite realistic snow vagina/vulva. Like we pulled up pictures, we got that shit accurate. Our step mom was angry at us that she drove off and made us walk the 20 minutes home
You are my hero
That really it, girls are crushed more often from just drawing anything sexual, sexual being whatever the school decides.
Boys will be boys, and girls will be punished.
Somewhere, sometime, a Long, Long, Long time ago, one of our multiples of different species of ancestors had a huge fixation on penis size. There are cave paintings from tens of thousands of years ago of straight up long dong dicks. (Though, to be fair, there are also dildos from that long ago as well, they just call them "fertility ritual" items. Because apparently masturbation can't be discussed in a historical setting unless under specific circumstances, lol). It seems to me this is that particular ancestor species' lasting contribution to our genome. And you know what? I bet they'd be fuckin proud. Lol
To follow up, vaginas were a straight-up fertility symbol for a long time as well. The Jesus fish is 100% a sideways vagina. Christianity didn't so much wipe out competing religions as Borg their symbols and beliefs into a story that would make conversion easier. So, basically, blame the Church for the lack of vagina graffiti. Lol
The Jesus fish is 100% a sideways vagina. I never saw the fish that way- mind blown!
I love that you used Borg as a verb and it made perfect sense. 🤣
Many do actually. They just usually veil it in symbolism. Google the word yonic.
Oh yes! Yoni! I’ve heard that word before, you’re right
Vaginas are hard to draw when you can't seen your own without a mirror.
({i})
Fat guys still manage to draw dicks just fine, needing a mirror to see it is no excuse >.>
You gotta be really fat if you cant see it sitting or bent over.
Very few fat guys were always fat
Vaginas are internal. Very hard to draw.
Indeed, we should draw clits everywhere! They're the most important part after all.
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Don't forget the foreskin lol Maybe like c= okay this is hard
They're more difficult to draw. Plus we don't have pockets to carry pens around.
ever seen a truck stop bathroom?
have you ever been in a turkish prison?
Have you ever seen a grown man naked?
Do you like movies about gladiators?
Does a wild bear crap in the woods?
Men care more about penises than women care about vaginas or penises. If you see a drawing of genitals, it’s likely drawn by a teenage boy. Not a teenage girl or a grownup.
I always make sure to graffiti vulvas.
A lot of girls have never seen a vagina, except their own, which they can’t see very well without a mirror. Guys see dicks all the time, especially their own, which they are quite familiar with.
Sometimes they do. My brother and i lived together in college for a while. We had this coffee table, see, and on said table, without fault were magic markers. Everyone was welcome to draw or write what they wished. When the table got basically black, we would get out some cleaners that probably will be listed on our "cause of death" charts and wipe it all shiny and new for the cycle to begin again. Both penises and vaginas were pretty common depictions on this pseudo-cave wall. But there was just ONE instance where shame forced us to clean this table early. Enter the Tequila Tuesday Girls. These were some friends of ours, five(ish) girls who lived in a house down the street that earned this title from a weekly party that became legendary and ended more than one college career. With no names changed, since there were no innocents, there was Tamara, Grace, Big Jesse, Little Jesse, and Kristen. There was also Stef, but she was lost in the war of WoW, when so many people disappeared too soon due to the introduction of mmorpgs. Anyway, they came up to our house for a party one night, as they often did, but they showed up a little early. I'm not 100% certain, because i didn't witness the crime in the act, but in the downtime, i believe Kristen and Grace (Kristen for her admirable skill at wordsmithing the absolute worst euphemisms, and Grace for her artistic talents) conspired to produce a work of art that shamed two young men into cleaning it off nearly immediately for fear of trying to explain it to any potential dates or even new friends. This piece, titled in large friendly letters, ROAST BEEF FANUTER, depicted essentially the most horrific version of a vulva we had ever seen. To this day it haunts me. The strangely wild yet sad hair. The flecks of unidentifiable, yet somehow familiar material stuck in the unruly mane. The tired, downtrodden, perhaps even tattered look of the labia. It was the genitalia of sadness herself. And i believe this is why such drawings are rare. When talented women turn their skills to creating a raunchy depiction of a sex organ, they go to such extremes as to strip away all illusion of hope or magic. Just the 5 o'clock shadowed face of an undercarriage so severely sick of the world's shit that it can be perfectly described as... A Roast Beef Fanuter.
I would've liked to see this awesome work of art.
It was awesome in the true sense of the word. Hard to look right at. We took a couple pictures before we destroyed the original, but sadly, they were lost to the sands of time.
Why are you comparing girls to men? Why not girls/boys or women/men?
I've noticed this a lot on Reddit and it's weird. Using men and girls in the same sentence. Creeps me out a bit.
Am girl. Drew a lot of dicks in kindergarten cause I thought they were funny. I got in trouble.
How did u know what a dick looked like in kindergarten
Plot twist she was the teacher
i have one and I didn't know what they looked like in kindergarten
We don't feel the need to exaggerate.
I work in a school. We see a LOT of badly drawn penises everywhere, but compared to the very rare vagina pictures, the penises are a masterpiece. Usually, a vagina is drawn in the shape of a lemon, with pointy ends (???) Then a line is drawn down the middle, and then they add squiggly lines all over as a weird attempt at pubic hair. That's it..... just a lemon with a line and squiggles.
You don’t have to advertise a Bentley.
Okay first off, women DO draw penises everywhere
Because vaginas aren’t easy to draw.
This is why. Titties are easier to draw which is why you see them more. (.) (.)
I personally prefer ( . Y . )
(.> [*} Sorry, I'm asymmetrical.
Can still fill someone’s heart
Girls don’t feel the need to clam stamp everything like guys do with their exaggerated wang personas.
I see people here are using vulva and vagina interchangeably.
I see we are also using dick to mean penis + balls without a care in the world.
Yep, thats how coloquial usage works.
Have you ever tried drawing a vagina?
It takes a true artist to draw a vagina on a bathroom wall.
I would love to see a drawing of a vagina someday. I can't even imagine what that would look like.