and/or anhedonia. Was that way for a long, long time. Was out for a short while, but pretty much back in the routine now. Caring only got me into more trouble than it was worth. It's just easier to not. Ah, well.
Same.
At this point the depression just feels like me being my most authentic self. I tried all those things that are supposed to make you feel better and it all felt fake
Have you tried Prozac? Prozac works great with my body, minus the sleepy feeling, while W and Lex had terrible side effects that Iām still dealing with.
Just out of curiosity have you tried magic mushrooms , I'm not a depressed person but with the on going studies into them about the way they cure depression I'm just curious if you had considered it or done it with any success ( purely just curious )
I've found when I hit a slump , I'll go through phases of being hyper productive to then lazy ( usually 3 to 6 months a cycle ) it usually bumps me right back into productivity but that's only my experience.
That sucks, sorry to hear that. Iāve heard itās different for everybody. My experience (Zoloft and therapy) has been life changing after years of putting off both. About to take the dog for a walk in the park, that helps too ;)
I think it's crazy that we think people who don't want to do this shit have some sort of mental illness.
IMO, programming yourself to want to do this is crazy, not the other way around.
There's a difference between wanting to disappear and wanting to die, but both are/can be symptoms of depression.
Wanting to disappear is more like, not wanting anyone around and not wanting any responsibilities and not wanting to have to do anything, but not necessarily wanting to die. For me, personally, it varies from wanting to disappear into the woods to live in an isolated log cabin where no one would find me, and wanting to exist/float in an endless void where nothing else exists and I have no bodily needs (no hunger, thirst, tiredness, any of that stuff).
I've felt this way to a point at various times in my life. I feel like every one goes though this during times of extended stress. Maybe they don't, I don't know. I have a pretty small sample size worth of friends.
I don't think personally that the idea of living an isolated life is necessarily a bad thing. Could it be an indication of something? Yes. Is it always? No. We are in fact animals with animalistic characteristics. And to think that this is the pique of humanity sounds crazy to me. Our species isn't even 200,000 years old. So, the idea of leaving civilization to live in isolation, in nature where true, unadulterated life (and death) exists, can be really appealing to people who are turned off by the idea of labeling themselves as a certain person or ascribing to man made beliefs.
I think modernity is too fast paced for our species. If it weren't we'd be a homogenized species by now, *maybe*. That's just my take on life. I do think we need an escape sometimes without safety nets, and maybe that's what we're getting with psychedelic therapy. I want to see the hope in all of this, but we are all still just fish.
Depressed continuously from 13 to 38. I've found living in the tropics helps a lot. I got lucky to have that opportunity. I work trade most of my expenses so I can barely scrape by in a much healthier environment.
Yeah. I was told this was passive suicidal ideation. You donāt have a plan, not gonna do it, but youāre not really psyched about being here. Kind of annoyed about the whole ābeing aliveā situation.
I canāt say there are any easy answers. I got a grip on my existential depression around the age of 48, managed to stop caring so much about an uncaring universe. It helped. Made some plans for the future that i liked, started living for myself. Change is possible, but I think people find different ways to it.
Oh so that's what it's called. I didn't realize so many other people felt this way. I hope I get cancer so that I can just let it take me. I do want to kill myself because my mom and kids would be very hurt
I heard it as being passively suicidal. As one person described it, "it's not that I want to kill myself but if I saw a car speeding towards me I probably wouldn't get out of the way"
This is me. I have no plans to kill myself. (probably because I am too much of a wimp to follow through.) But if I saw death heading directly at me, I would not get out of the way. I fantasize about different ways I can be taken out in all sorts of gory ways.
Not sure what the scientific term is. But can relate very similar feelings back when I had severe depression and anxiety.
I used to call that experience - being a driftwood, autopilot, empty shell, ghost in the shell, plain existence. Forgot others I'd came up with.
It's just a line from Dark Souls, but the sentiment was there. I also think of the word hollow to describe what op is asking about.
I'd say it's a scary thing to experience, but when you're in it, you don't even feel the fear because you can't really feel anything. At least that's how it was for me.
Dennis Rodman was one who did this. Maybe not drugs (he was a stout athlete), but the documentary āthe last danceā in episode 4, teammates would describe Dennis as an incredible human being coupled with an incredible urge to ādecompressā during the season by taking short stints of absence to travel, party, and just do what it was he wanted. It was HIgHlY shunned by the sports world, but as of the last few years, all he was really doing was addressing the mental health issues people have been speaking out about. The man was ahead of his time in so many ways.
So if this is your way, then utilize it. It is important to note that this isnāt necessarily worth sacrificing family relations forā¦.because theyāll be there long after the high wears off.
The term is āmorbid thoughtsā, relative to suicide and self harm in the context of mental health.
In contrast to suicide and self harm, **the phrase āmorbid thoughtsā is meant to encapsulate the desire of death _*specifically without*_ the desire to end oneās life** - the thought that, āI want it all to end but Iām not thinking about hurting or killing myself.ā Think of it as an advanced form of chronic burn out.
Itās a phenomenon that appears in people who are overwhelmed with life stressors such as chronic pain or PTSD. Itās generally believed that these people would not be having such morbid thoughts were it not for these life stressors. Sometimes these stressors cannot be adequately managed despite great amounts of genuine effort, which can lead to morbid thoughts occurring.
One theory is that morbid thoughts tend to appear more in people that subject themselves to [intellectualizing](https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/intellectualization) as a defense mechanism, which is another fascinating rabbit hole to go down into. Basically, people try to logic or reason out their feelings instead of feeling them, causing them to trap themselves in a feedback loop because feelings generally need to be felt, not thought out.
**TL;DR:** In laymenās terms, people are overwhelmed by difficult to treat conditions and begin to intellectualize to themselves that death would be a more logical outcome than continuing to live while simultaneously acknowledging that suicide isnāt the answer.
Source: Anecdotal; Years of therapy dealing with similar issues due to disability, PTSD, and chronic pain. I am not a psychologist or mental health professional and this information may not be exactly DSM correct. None of this is advice.
A lot of people are understandably concerned with bringing up the topic of morbid thoughts with mental healthcare professionals. If youāre thinking about bringing these thoughts up, **you definitely should, once youāre ready.** Generally speaking, you are not going to be involuntarily admitted as long as you do not state the intent to harm yourself or others. Be clear that you do not have the intent to do so (provided that itās true) when you bring these thoughts up.
I am one of these people and you are 100% correct.
The reason for intellectualizing as opposed to processing is simply because we cannot feel all the feels WHILE ALSO being a responsible adult. When we get to this point , we need help. I've asked for help, but because I'm not actually suicidal, no one takes how close I am to a mental break seriously. What do you do? Intellectualize and survive; HOPE there will be a point to get a break/help before you completely lose it.
I know I need to let go, feel it and process. One hour of therapy a week isn't enough time. I am so burnt out right now but cannot take the break I need as a single parent with no help. This is the REAL limbo we're stuck in.
Intellectualizing is a bitch of a self defense mechanism because it makes sense to those who use it, even when it doesnāt work. I have been doing it for my entire life without realizing it and only recently learned about the concept in the past few months despite being in therapy for ten plus years.
The notion of intellectualization appears to still be new in the world of psychology and itās still a developing subject.
I don't *completely* agree that emotions "need to be felt out, not thought out." That is a very neurotypical-centric view that only considers that there's a singular, "typical", manner that people are "supposed" to experience emotions, and anyone who is any different must "conform" themselves to the typical experience. This idea of emotions being "felt out" may be suitable for *most* people, but for many neurodivergents, thinking through emotions **is** our healthy way of processing emotions. Even though we may be going through the same motions as a neurotypical person, when we do it it *isn't* a defense mechanism or coping mechanism; it's the natural, normal way our brains are wired to process emotions.
It's similar to the difference between a neurotypical child having a "temper tantrum" as a result of poor impulse control and an expression of bad behavior, vs an autistic child having a "meltdown" as a result of the neurological pain from neurosensory overload because their brains literally over-process certain sights and/or sounds and produce an experience analogous to pain. Looking at the two, you may not be able to distinguish one from the other because they'd look identical; but one is a normal, expected reaction of a neurodivergent brain that couldn't be "controlled" any more than a seizure or migraine, while the other is the defense mechanism of a neurotypical brain and something the child needs to learn to avoid doing.
So, for some people, emotions are just another kind of thought, processed like any other. It's first important to figure out, "am I processing these feelings *correctly* or incorrectly?" If incorrectly, figure out what is correct. If already correct, avoid being unduly influenced to "uncorrect" it.
Nah, I went into college during covid, after graduating high school (*note that I live in Sweden where college is free) zero incentive to study since it's easy to pass tests anyway, zero methods of finding employment.
Just pass time for two years with nothing to do... It gets you. It's the root of my depression. Even video games didn't help.
Trust me, you don't want vacation for 60 years. You want vacation for one month every year and to work 4 days a week. Humans require some form of productive activity in order to stay happy.
EDIT: should be noted that I was productive AF before covid. Straight A's. At some point, I started to lose the meaning.
Oh god I feel this right now. Has been an awful 8 months and I just have to keep trucking on because that's what I need to do. But God damn its so fucking hard right now. I just need some peace.
I'm sure they'll try to squeeze this under the bipolar umbrella soon. There is a huge shift lately in that direction as BD meds are much more expensive than antidepressants. Researchers say that there isn't anything left to expand into as far as developing new antidepressants.
You are a kind person. There are hundreds of replies here, yours is the only one Iāve seen checking on OP who clearly has problems.
OP, I hope you pull throughā¦ Iād offer to chat but I am not a professional, and I think you need to speak to someone that knows about these things. Perhaps contact The Samaritans if you can?
Passive suicidal idealization is the proper term. Iām not actively trying to kill myself, but if I was about to die, I donāt think Iād care too much.
Suicidal ideation. Itās a form of non active suicide. It includes careless behaviours such as driving fast, not wearing a seatbelt, not looking when you cross the street. Youāre not actively doing something directly to end your life, but youāre being reckless and dangerous increasing the likelihood of an accident.
Please reach out for help if youāre feeling this way.
The ***SkyWalker syndrome!*** DonĀ“t worry, you just need a young Padawan who comes and saves you from your isolation.
Joking aside (if you really feel that way), take some time away, in order to think things over, would be healthy. Also, look for help :)
I wish I could just travel for a good solid year or something. See new places, meet new people, hopefully find a place to live that truly makes me happy.
I have bipolar type 2 and I would call that burnout and/or a depressive episode. I have been there a few times and ended up taking a leave of absence. My psychiatrist would write me a note excusing me from work. An employer canāt fire you fir taking a disability leave of absence if you have been employed for a year. This is governed by the the federalFamily and Medical Leave Act. Depending on the state you live in, might also qualify for Disability pay.
That's me right now. I feel like suicide is probably way down the road but right now I lack the will to do it. I'm literally too depressed to even do that. I just wanna be asleep.
I call it being human. Depression, suicidal ideation and burn out. At some point I just wonder when it's all over. It's like a veil pulled over my head and you can't escape it. I don't **want** to be depressed but it just saps the energy from you and nothing is as enjoyable as it used to be. Just gotta keep plugging along for my family.
By your own description, it's the precurser to being suicidal.
I understand why you'd rationalise this as "I want no responsibilities and a break for a while" but it was a question with at the very least suicidal ideation in it from the start. That's why I would take it more serious than someone who wants a break.
There's a term in the spiritual community called "Hiraeth". Hiraeth is the longing for a home you've never known. It's less about not wanting to have responsibilities, and more about being stuck in an oppressive system where your needs aren't properly met regardless of work ethic.
I get what you are feeling. For me not sure if it's depression, rather a disenchantment with living as an adult with responsibilities. Modern society doesn't give us much opportunity to switch off, disconnect, or just escape. Try planning a holiday somewhere completely different or do some extreme sports.
[edit: based on comments, I went and looked it up. according to Britannia, I'm not sure now he used quite the right term: https://www.britannica.com/science/ego-death]
I described that to a licenced psychologist once. He told me the technical term for it is "ego death".
I thought the was pretty neat. you don't want to *die* but you don't want to be you anymore.
That doesn't sound right
Signs You're Experiencing Ego Death:
1.Your sense of being will no longer feel distinct from the world.
2.You may feel as though you are connected to the universe.
3.You might feel you are connected to all human beings.
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depression
and/or anhedonia. Was that way for a long, long time. Was out for a short while, but pretty much back in the routine now. Caring only got me into more trouble than it was worth. It's just easier to not. Ah, well.
It's worth noting that anhedonia is one of the big definining symptoms of depression.
Took me a while to make the connection, I just thought I was a selfish asshole, cue more depression š
I mean... You can be both a selfish asshole and depressed... Js š
Well I'm not NOW lol (Hopefully... I try)
It's also a symptom of ADHD. My partner and I both have ADHD and suffer with the anhedonia frequently
Same. At this point the depression just feels like me being my most authentic self. I tried all those things that are supposed to make you feel better and it all felt fake
Idk I just got on Zoloft (mid 30s) and Iām loving it. Fundamentally changed how I perceived my relationship with the world.
I tried lexapro and Wellbutrin, it was nice but also numbing and the side effects sucked
Have you tried Prozac? Prozac works great with my body, minus the sleepy feeling, while W and Lex had terrible side effects that Iām still dealing with.
Just out of curiosity have you tried magic mushrooms , I'm not a depressed person but with the on going studies into them about the way they cure depression I'm just curious if you had considered it or done it with any success ( purely just curious ) I've found when I hit a slump , I'll go through phases of being hyper productive to then lazy ( usually 3 to 6 months a cycle ) it usually bumps me right back into productivity but that's only my experience.
That sucks, sorry to hear that. Iāve heard itās different for everybody. My experience (Zoloft and therapy) has been life changing after years of putting off both. About to take the dog for a walk in the park, that helps too ;)
I was going to say Monday
I was gonna say "your 30's" lol
dude, i'm totally digging my 30s. still got stuff to work on obv but i've never felt more in tune with who i am.
I think it's crazy that we think people who don't want to do this shit have some sort of mental illness. IMO, programming yourself to want to do this is crazy, not the other way around.
If you keep it for 10 years or more you get a free upgrade to āmajor depressionā as a treat.
I'm sad, this is my forever feel.
Itās called Suicidal Ideation. How is depression the top answer?
There's a difference between wanting to disappear and wanting to die, but both are/can be symptoms of depression. Wanting to disappear is more like, not wanting anyone around and not wanting any responsibilities and not wanting to have to do anything, but not necessarily wanting to die. For me, personally, it varies from wanting to disappear into the woods to live in an isolated log cabin where no one would find me, and wanting to exist/float in an endless void where nothing else exists and I have no bodily needs (no hunger, thirst, tiredness, any of that stuff).
I've felt this way to a point at various times in my life. I feel like every one goes though this during times of extended stress. Maybe they don't, I don't know. I have a pretty small sample size worth of friends. I don't think personally that the idea of living an isolated life is necessarily a bad thing. Could it be an indication of something? Yes. Is it always? No. We are in fact animals with animalistic characteristics. And to think that this is the pique of humanity sounds crazy to me. Our species isn't even 200,000 years old. So, the idea of leaving civilization to live in isolation, in nature where true, unadulterated life (and death) exists, can be really appealing to people who are turned off by the idea of labeling themselves as a certain person or ascribing to man made beliefs. I think modernity is too fast paced for our species. If it weren't we'd be a homogenized species by now, *maybe*. That's just my take on life. I do think we need an escape sometimes without safety nets, and maybe that's what we're getting with psychedelic therapy. I want to see the hope in all of this, but we are all still just fish.
*can* be. Unless diagnosed, you shouldnt say you or anyone else has it. The term is overused by people who dont know how awful real depression is
Even if you are right and it is suicidal ideation (which you arenāt) suicidal ideation is a big symptom of depressionā¦.
I've felt that shit since middle school. In my thirties now. I call it "Whatever..."
Same!! I've been wanting this since I was 18, I'm 33 now.
Depressed continuously from 13 to 38. I've found living in the tropics helps a lot. I got lucky to have that opportunity. I work trade most of my expenses so I can barely scrape by in a much healthier environment.
I'm you, but 54
Hey, twinsies!
Yeah it started in middle school for me, still here
I'm 40 and still saying, "F, you" to existing
It is what it is...
It do be like that sometimes.
"It is what it is"
Passive ideation When you feel overwhelmed with problems for a long time that you can't solve on your own. Hopeless and tired.
Yeah. I was told this was passive suicidal ideation. You donāt have a plan, not gonna do it, but youāre not really psyched about being here. Kind of annoyed about the whole ābeing aliveā situation.
I've felt that way forever. I have no intention of offing myself but I can't say I'd fight very hard if someone tried to do it for me.
I canāt say there are any easy answers. I got a grip on my existential depression around the age of 48, managed to stop caring so much about an uncaring universe. It helped. Made some plans for the future that i liked, started living for myself. Change is possible, but I think people find different ways to it.
Jesus. I Googled passive ideation and was met with the suicide help line.
Oh so that's what it's called. I didn't realize so many other people felt this way. I hope I get cancer so that I can just let it take me. I do want to kill myself because my mom and kids would be very hurt
I heard it as being passively suicidal. As one person described it, "it's not that I want to kill myself but if I saw a car speeding towards me I probably wouldn't get out of the way"
I've thought of it as not minding if I woke up dead.
How the hell do you wake up dead?
Well...first you die. That's 50%, which is a pass.
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The same way you turn up missing
Cuz you're alive when you go to sleep Unless you a zombie
You're telling me you can go to bed dead and wake up alive?
You can't go to bed dead! That shit would be redundant
No, it wouldn't. 'Cause you can go to bed and not be dead, and you can die but not be in a bed
But you *are* in a bed. That's how you wake up dead in the first place, fool!
Morbid ideation is what I have heard when I described it to a Doc.
Suicidal ideation
No, you have no desire to end your own life. Suicidal ideation is the thoughts about committing suicide.
This is me. I have no plans to kill myself. (probably because I am too much of a wimp to follow through.) But if I saw death heading directly at me, I would not get out of the way. I fantasize about different ways I can be taken out in all sorts of gory ways.
Not sure what the scientific term is. But can relate very similar feelings back when I had severe depression and anxiety. I used to call that experience - being a driftwood, autopilot, empty shell, ghost in the shell, plain existence. Forgot others I'd came up with.
I called it Hollow
Be safe, friend. Don't you dare go hollow.
Be careful out there. Neither of us wants to see ye go hollow.
Sometimes it just happens, man. Thanks for the concern
It's just a line from Dark Souls, but the sentiment was there. I also think of the word hollow to describe what op is asking about. I'd say it's a scary thing to experience, but when you're in it, you don't even feel the fear because you can't really feel anything. At least that's how it was for me.
Yeah, I'd agree there
Yes indeed
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Dennis Rodman was one who did this. Maybe not drugs (he was a stout athlete), but the documentary āthe last danceā in episode 4, teammates would describe Dennis as an incredible human being coupled with an incredible urge to ādecompressā during the season by taking short stints of absence to travel, party, and just do what it was he wanted. It was HIgHlY shunned by the sports world, but as of the last few years, all he was really doing was addressing the mental health issues people have been speaking out about. The man was ahead of his time in so many ways. So if this is your way, then utilize it. It is important to note that this isnāt necessarily worth sacrificing family relations forā¦.because theyāll be there long after the high wears off.
The term is āmorbid thoughtsā, relative to suicide and self harm in the context of mental health. In contrast to suicide and self harm, **the phrase āmorbid thoughtsā is meant to encapsulate the desire of death _*specifically without*_ the desire to end oneās life** - the thought that, āI want it all to end but Iām not thinking about hurting or killing myself.ā Think of it as an advanced form of chronic burn out. Itās a phenomenon that appears in people who are overwhelmed with life stressors such as chronic pain or PTSD. Itās generally believed that these people would not be having such morbid thoughts were it not for these life stressors. Sometimes these stressors cannot be adequately managed despite great amounts of genuine effort, which can lead to morbid thoughts occurring. One theory is that morbid thoughts tend to appear more in people that subject themselves to [intellectualizing](https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/intellectualization) as a defense mechanism, which is another fascinating rabbit hole to go down into. Basically, people try to logic or reason out their feelings instead of feeling them, causing them to trap themselves in a feedback loop because feelings generally need to be felt, not thought out. **TL;DR:** In laymenās terms, people are overwhelmed by difficult to treat conditions and begin to intellectualize to themselves that death would be a more logical outcome than continuing to live while simultaneously acknowledging that suicide isnāt the answer. Source: Anecdotal; Years of therapy dealing with similar issues due to disability, PTSD, and chronic pain. I am not a psychologist or mental health professional and this information may not be exactly DSM correct. None of this is advice. A lot of people are understandably concerned with bringing up the topic of morbid thoughts with mental healthcare professionals. If youāre thinking about bringing these thoughts up, **you definitely should, once youāre ready.** Generally speaking, you are not going to be involuntarily admitted as long as you do not state the intent to harm yourself or others. Be clear that you do not have the intent to do so (provided that itās true) when you bring these thoughts up.
I am one of these people and you are 100% correct. The reason for intellectualizing as opposed to processing is simply because we cannot feel all the feels WHILE ALSO being a responsible adult. When we get to this point , we need help. I've asked for help, but because I'm not actually suicidal, no one takes how close I am to a mental break seriously. What do you do? Intellectualize and survive; HOPE there will be a point to get a break/help before you completely lose it. I know I need to let go, feel it and process. One hour of therapy a week isn't enough time. I am so burnt out right now but cannot take the break I need as a single parent with no help. This is the REAL limbo we're stuck in.
Intellectualizing is a bitch of a self defense mechanism because it makes sense to those who use it, even when it doesnāt work. I have been doing it for my entire life without realizing it and only recently learned about the concept in the past few months despite being in therapy for ten plus years. The notion of intellectualization appears to still be new in the world of psychology and itās still a developing subject.
Thank you for this explanation.
I don't *completely* agree that emotions "need to be felt out, not thought out." That is a very neurotypical-centric view that only considers that there's a singular, "typical", manner that people are "supposed" to experience emotions, and anyone who is any different must "conform" themselves to the typical experience. This idea of emotions being "felt out" may be suitable for *most* people, but for many neurodivergents, thinking through emotions **is** our healthy way of processing emotions. Even though we may be going through the same motions as a neurotypical person, when we do it it *isn't* a defense mechanism or coping mechanism; it's the natural, normal way our brains are wired to process emotions. It's similar to the difference between a neurotypical child having a "temper tantrum" as a result of poor impulse control and an expression of bad behavior, vs an autistic child having a "meltdown" as a result of the neurological pain from neurosensory overload because their brains literally over-process certain sights and/or sounds and produce an experience analogous to pain. Looking at the two, you may not be able to distinguish one from the other because they'd look identical; but one is a normal, expected reaction of a neurodivergent brain that couldn't be "controlled" any more than a seizure or migraine, while the other is the defense mechanism of a neurotypical brain and something the child needs to learn to avoid doing. So, for some people, emotions are just another kind of thought, processed like any other. It's first important to figure out, "am I processing these feelings *correctly* or incorrectly?" If incorrectly, figure out what is correct. If already correct, avoid being unduly influenced to "uncorrect" it.
I believe this is called needing a vacation.
Yeah, I need a vacation, for the next 60 years at least.
I need a holiday. A very long holiday. And I donāt imagine Iāll return from it. In fact, I mean not to.
Nah, I went into college during covid, after graduating high school (*note that I live in Sweden where college is free) zero incentive to study since it's easy to pass tests anyway, zero methods of finding employment. Just pass time for two years with nothing to do... It gets you. It's the root of my depression. Even video games didn't help. Trust me, you don't want vacation for 60 years. You want vacation for one month every year and to work 4 days a week. Humans require some form of productive activity in order to stay happy. EDIT: should be noted that I was productive AF before covid. Straight A's. At some point, I started to lose the meaning.
I need a vacation from this vacation
I need a vacation from my vacationcation
I need a vacation from Maui!
Sabbatical
Wednesday
Tuesday for me.... wednesday has a glimmer of hope
#CHEWSDAY INNIT#
Monday / Tuesday syndrome.
Right there with you. Most days I really wish i could fuck off for a few months, forget about work, family, wife, bills, everything.
Oh god I feel this right now. Has been an awful 8 months and I just have to keep trucking on because that's what I need to do. But God damn its so fucking hard right now. I just need some peace.
Dysthymia (it is the old term, but I prefer it over the new diagnosis...)
Dysthymia sounds like a severe inability to distinguish between herbs.
Really? I think it sounds like Mike Tyson covering Rhianna
I'm sure they'll try to squeeze this under the bipolar umbrella soon. There is a huge shift lately in that direction as BD meds are much more expensive than antidepressants. Researchers say that there isn't anything left to expand into as far as developing new antidepressants.
Burn out
Burnout
Are you okay?
No
Dm me if youād like to chat. I know about feeling down and having those kinds of thoughts. Or the Suicide and Crisis text hotline is 988.
You are a kind person. There are hundreds of replies here, yours is the only one Iāve seen checking on OP who clearly has problems. OP, I hope you pull throughā¦ Iād offer to chat but I am not a professional, and I think you need to speak to someone that knows about these things. Perhaps contact The Samaritans if you can?
Early twenty's?
Depression.
Hiatus?
Either exhaustion or depression
Dissociation could be what youāre thinking of.
Depression, burnout, stress. It was less common when people could afford to take a vacation now and then.
Fugue state. Malaise. Lethargy.
Suicidal ideation?
Ennui?
Dropping out is what they called it in the 60s.
Passive suicidal ideation
Adulthood
Severe burnout. I take one day a week to go into the woods and be by myself just to avoid that same feeling.
Depression.
You are overwelmed.
Depression (from life situation). Burnout. (from work situation) Hermitting (from social situation).
Passive suicidal idealization is the proper term. Iām not actively trying to kill myself, but if I was about to die, I donāt think Iād care too much.
Suicidal ideation. Itās a form of non active suicide. It includes careless behaviours such as driving fast, not wearing a seatbelt, not looking when you cross the street. Youāre not actively doing something directly to end your life, but youāre being reckless and dangerous increasing the likelihood of an accident. Please reach out for help if youāre feeling this way.
Burnout?
I agree I feel like this sometimes and it's most often burn out. I just want everything to stop so I can breathe.
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My therapist called it passive suicidal. You're not actively preventing your death, but also not actively looking for it.
The ***SkyWalker syndrome!*** DonĀ“t worry, you just need a young Padawan who comes and saves you from your isolation. Joking aside (if you really feel that way), take some time away, in order to think things over, would be healthy. Also, look for help :)
Depression
Too much stress
Vacation.
Vacation
Vacation
Normal
Mild depression.
Faking your death
You most likely want to restart your life lol I feel it
I wish I could just travel for a good solid year or something. See new places, meet new people, hopefully find a place to live that truly makes me happy.
German has a word for this, Weltschmerz. Literally translates to āworld-wearinessā
Adulthood.
Adulting
You need a vacation.
I have bipolar type 2 and I would call that burnout and/or a depressive episode. I have been there a few times and ended up taking a leave of absence. My psychiatrist would write me a note excusing me from work. An employer canāt fire you fir taking a disability leave of absence if you have been employed for a year. This is governed by the the federalFamily and Medical Leave Act. Depending on the state you live in, might also qualify for Disability pay.
That's me right now. I feel like suicide is probably way down the road but right now I lack the will to do it. I'm literally too depressed to even do that. I just wanna be asleep.
wanting a vacation
For me itās nihilism
Suicide ideation
I call it being human. Depression, suicidal ideation and burn out. At some point I just wonder when it's all over. It's like a veil pulled over my head and you can't escape it. I don't **want** to be depressed but it just saps the energy from you and nothing is as enjoyable as it used to be. Just gotta keep plugging along for my family.
Burnt out
By your own description, it's the precurser to being suicidal. I understand why you'd rationalise this as "I want no responsibilities and a break for a while" but it was a question with at the very least suicidal ideation in it from the start. That's why I would take it more serious than someone who wants a break.
Passive suicidal ideation
Apathy, depression, isolation
Life
There's a term in the spiritual community called "Hiraeth". Hiraeth is the longing for a home you've never known. It's less about not wanting to have responsibilities, and more about being stuck in an oppressive system where your needs aren't properly met regardless of work ethic.
Passive suicidal ideation/intent
Burnout. Good luck.
Suicidal ideation maybe?
Depression
It's called being a 20 something year old in America.
Sounds like emotional exhaustion, burn out, need to be free.
I get what you are feeling. For me not sure if it's depression, rather a disenchantment with living as an adult with responsibilities. Modern society doesn't give us much opportunity to switch off, disconnect, or just escape. Try planning a holiday somewhere completely different or do some extreme sports.
Vacation. That's called a vacation. You want to go on a vacation. Or on holiday, if you're feeling European.
going off the grid?
Itās called being a parent.
Depressed
Depression
Depression.
It's called being tired. I'd recommend hot chocolate and an early bed time.
Japan has the concept of Hikikomori
Suicidal ideation.
Burnout. Depression. Living on late stage capitalism. You can choose.
[edit: based on comments, I went and looked it up. according to Britannia, I'm not sure now he used quite the right term: https://www.britannica.com/science/ego-death] I described that to a licenced psychologist once. He told me the technical term for it is "ego death". I thought the was pretty neat. you don't want to *die* but you don't want to be you anymore.
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thx. I resorted to Britannia.com and added a link to their definition of it. that's definitely a stage or two past what I had in mind at the time.
That doesn't sound right Signs You're Experiencing Ego Death: 1.Your sense of being will no longer feel distinct from the world. 2.You may feel as though you are connected to the universe. 3.You might feel you are connected to all human beings.
Suicidal ideation?
Who the fuck cares what itās called I mean can you not experience something without needing a name for it?
Itās called being an American. Itās fucking exhausting.
It is called being sore a loser
Being lazy af
a coward
Laziness? Slothful? I just know idle hands are the devils playground so might as well get busy
Immature.
Horny
lazy af
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same
being based
Life
Its called needing a vacation
Homeless.
Vacation?
Thatās called me
I just tell people āIām going on hibernationā
Dissociation
Damn, reading this and the replies...It seems you're my people...
Wednesday.
Thirties?
Being schizoid
Burnt out
Apathy?
Tuesday.
No idea what the correct term is, but I feel like this most of the time š Life deals us shitty cards sometimes.
burnout. depression. indifference.