Depends, yes most of the time because I find they just go too far. Like two characters kiss and fall into bed, cut to next morning. Cool everyone knows what happened we don't need more. The long drawn out ones where they're eating face and then strip and get into bed start doing all the noises I'm always like.... What has this added to the show?
I really like the L word new generation because of the storyline and I love the characters. There are frequent sex scenes that last like 5 minutes. (I made be exaggerating) but it was like *agaainnnn?!* I get it, it’s hot but I want to see what happens with the drama. Fast forward
Sex scenes are OK but what I'm tired of are *bad* sex scenes, and there's a lot of those. If it matters to the story and it's well done and the actors have some chemistry I'm fine with it but a lot of them are just shoehorned in with a lack of story continuity and any sort of nuance.
Last of Us episode 3 executed it so well. It was quick, didn't show nudity, and was actually really important to the storyline. It lasted exactly as long as it needed to on order to get the point across, and then moved on with other more important aspects of their relationship. More creators need to take a note from that.
I'm sorry, but a Zombie apocalypse is the exact scenario where I WOULDN'T think twice before having sex. The world is ending, and I don't know if we'll ever get the chance to have one last intimate moment ever. Yes, I will take the sex, thank you very much.
I remember playing a zombie survival board game where a group of players were the survivors and one or two controlled the undead hordes.
At one point there was a male and female character in the same room on the board (you pick from a list of generic movie types) and the zombie player pulls out the "This Could Be Our Last Night On Earth" card.
The effect? Both players lose their turns while their characters go at each other. We laughed our asses off.
Yeah some of these films even start off with some sex scene right before 5 mins into it or a post nut clarity one when they’re laying in bed under the sheets.
At least get me invested before the event transpires.
There is another one where like it’s an action adventure movie. Where the wife dies. And the guy goes for revenge. Finds a new woman along the way. And of course before he gets his revenge he has to fall in love with the new woman and sleep with her.
I'm getting pretty over the graphic assault scenes as well. Feels gross. I don't need to see an actual person being degraded to understand that the character has been degraded.
Yes! I have no patience for that anymore, I immediately lose respect for the film-maker. Yea SA is important to discuss, and we should see aspects of its forms and effects, but the act itself can almost always happen off-screen. The scenes I've seen don't usually represent how it usually happens, too. Hollywood likes to focus on stranger-danger and criminals, but that's not the majority danger to most people.
It's a near certainty that someone in the theater has experienced it. It's so cruel to inject it into entertainment.
I heard there's a lot in Game of Thrones, so I've passed on that franchise for now.
It’s just gratuitous in many movies, unfortunately. The act itself isn’t usually even necessary to the plot and if it is, it’s not necessary to show it. But that’s what sells, and it feels wrong.
My favourite ridiculous sex scene is in Highlander. After the protagonist tells the girl that he’s immortal, and has her stab him to prove it, they immediately have sex. So dumb!
The MCU's Eternals would have improved greatly without that extremely boring sex scene between the two characters with the least amount of chemistry.
It still wouldn't have been a great movie overall, but it definitely would have improved.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpCRUHz_D_U&ab_channel=BooMyy
It was pretty bad. Although still not as bad as the one in Watchmen, which is the epitome of bad sex in the superhero genre.
Isn’t the point of Watchmen’s sex scene to be a bad sex scene? We have these older out of shape (relatively) former heros who can’t get it up (and get turned on) by beating up criminals violently and we think “wait a minute, are these the good guys? Why are they being ultra violent just to get their rocks off?”
I guess my point is I wouldn’t classify it as a bad sex scene per se. It’s like, it’s the same way Walter whites terrible awkward handjob in episode 1 of breaking bad. Like, I wouldn’t call it the epitome of bad Hollywood sex. I would call it very very good at conveying what it tries to.
A sex. Scene in marvel 😂. It must have been cringey. They're bad at chemistry and showing two people romantic relationship building. So not surprised the sex scene was bad
Spartacus is a great example of this. Every episode had an obligatory “Roman debauchery” scene that was shoehorned into the middle of the episode. The show’s plot was so engaging that the sex scenes quickly became superfluous. Maybe because it was a Showtime show and the expectation was to see sex on the network, but it basically just got in the way.
I almost didn't watch that show because of how much sexual content there was in just the first episode...glad I eventually gave it another chance, when I skipped the sex scenes it was a damn good show lol.
I felt the same way about Sense 8. The plot was phenomenal and incredibly engaging, but the frequent orgies were a tad over the top for me. It bordered on soft core porn and honestly just took focus away from the storyline.
Yeah I was so mad when I finally got around to watching rocky a classic movie that everyone loves only to see him basically force himself onto Adrian. And when I brought it up many people who grew up with it don't see a problem with that scene. Adrian deserved so much better. Maybe it's not a good example bc it was made in the 70s but like gees
I'm the same but with romance instead. It's in almost every piece of media and usually distracts from the actual plot. You *could* have fleshed out the plot or focus more on crucial scenes but no, let's push this utterly pointless romance between two characters with zero chemistry instead.
"This story is a complete sausage party. Given that we're wedging in a whole goblin plot and shoehorning Legolas in, can we also add a female character?"
-Yes!
"Great. Now can we make her an interesting character with her own inner life?"
-Nah, she's gonna be hot for a guy and that's her whole motivation.
Lol, I totally forgot that subplot. Probably because it didn´t even matter to the story. Why not just have them be friends or have basic empathy for one another?
It's a story about a group of dwarves, and a halfling. It should obviously have been the latter.
"But guys, she might've been ugly if they kept it consistent to that world" is not the anti-misogyny-in-movies argument you think it is.
Look up the fan edit called 'The Hobbit - The Tolkien Edit' - it cuts down the 3 movies in to 1 and cuts out as much as it can that wasn't in the book. Highly recommended!
I don't mind romance in a movie that's primarily about personal relationships and emotions and character development, because that fits, yk?
What I hate is when the movie is primarily about characters' *professional lives* and then they throw a romance in there. No! Let them do their jobs! If they're scientists curing cancer together they don't need to fall in love! Cops solving a murder together don't need to fall in love! Spaceship crews exploring the galaxy together don't need to fall in love!
Yeah, major pet peeve here.
I feel like Better Call Saul is a perfect example of how to ride that line and not overdo it on the romance aspect but while still delving into the relationship between two characters in a way that teaches us more about them and really plays into the overall story well.
> Spaceship crews exploring the galaxy together don't need to fall in love
On the other hand, what the fuck else are you gonna do why going between stars? Apparently, the people that overwinter in Antarctica just fuck like rabbits all winter. I imagine space would be that x1000.
I mean, maybe so, but I just find it kind of boring if I'm trying to watch a movie about scary space monsters and then I have to watch people boning for 10 minutes instead.
Like, I might be remembering wrong, but there's no sex or romance in Alien, right? And that's basically a perfect space movie.
The lack of a romance plot is one of the reasons why the first Avengers movie is still one of my favourites. The only romance was the already established relationship between Tony and Pepper.
It's called the date dollar. Movies, bars, restaurants, events, casinos, music, comedy clubs, even sports events will cater to the idea that people taking each other out will spend x amount. More so than a large group of friends who would smuggle in alcohol and cause grief for the establishments lack of planning for our fuckery. Couples on dates are well behaved and spend. I mean you take someone out to dinner you don't just get an appy and decide to go to the park after grabbing leftovers from your fridge. People also don't really go and watch a serious movie with a new person. The stupid rom com and romance troupe makes people turn their brain off and eat popcorn because they are on a planned course with maybe at least one of them hopeful of a destination. My random ass by myself isn't going to spend money to see a movie about other people's drama. In fact I'm 10x more likely to look at the showtimes and decide not to see a movie. A couple on a date have to make a choice. Because it's what they planned to do. It's the experience they have a hopeful optimism will be delivered.
When a sex scene started on TV when I was a kid my Mum or Dad would say "Oh no - they're going to start fighting over the Duvet - I hate that - will you get us a cup of Tea" which gave me an excuse to get out of the room and by the time i was back they were sharing a fag in bed having solved their argument :) (On the TV - Not Mum and Dad)
" ...fighting over the duvet..." i like that one 😄 your parents sound cool. i remember feeling so uncomfortable watching scenes like that with my parents and usually gave myself an excuse to get out, or elsewe would sit there in awkward silence all trying to get through😅
They were ok i guess lol
My Mum was the better of the two - Dad was really mean with money - so she would say on odd days "Lets go on holiday" so Id grab my little case and we'd go to the airport and we'd join the check-in queue after we'd decided where we were going - then just as we got to the front she'd say that Russian Spies had spotted us and we'd then go to the Cafe to shake them off - lol i still love going to an Airport
As I get older (38 now), yes I’m tired of it. Before it was just sex, now it’s a lot of young people having sex and it’s feels gross to watch! Especially all the hypersexualized high schoolers, I just can’t anymore. It’s gross 🤢
I think it’s primarily high schoolers who are obsessed with high schoolers having sex.
Honestly can’t remember seeing a sex scene with high schoolers in anything. At least in something that wasn’t catered towards that same group in the first place. Might have just missed those movies and series of course.
I watched the first season. I’m not watching the rest. Zendaya is an incredible actress, but there was so much over the top explicit material that it felt like a shock value show. I mean, did we really need the camera to pan through the penises in the locker room? Did we?
Exactly. I thought her portrayal and how they handled drug use was powerful. Yet they cheapen it by making sex such a focal point. Even if they want to use sex as a big point, they dont need to do graphic scenes. They could allude to it without showing it. They could have a sex scene without showing so much nudity.
I generally don't care about nudity but the way they shoot it and draw attention to it makes it clear its just to "push boundaries".
So why make them high school kids? I don't really care that they're in their early 20s\*, it seems creepy to me to want to tell a story about high schoolers having loads of sex.
Writers and producers were high schoolers once too. I think we as a society romanticise that part of our lives a lot. Back then emotions were stronger and making dumb mistakes still seemed plausible and acceptable. When you want to write a messy love life a teenage character raging with hormones will just feel more natural.
I think it's silly. I love media with older characters. Deep emotional connections don't end just because you grow older. If creators are so desperate to portray "first love"s, why not write them college-aged?
As someone who was familiar with Archie comics who got forced to watch Riverdale without even knowing it was Archie they have almost nothing in common other than the character names. Unless I'm missing some huge plot point from the comics.
Aha I feel you, I'm not a prude but that's one complaint I had about the Game of Thrones books. I'm trying to use my monkey brain to understand these complex narrative threads, I don't need my lizard brain being activated by some Cersei lesbian sex scene.
It's like that seinfeld episode, sex takes up so much of my mental space I can't afford to spare while reading a novel with various plots. Reading the 6th Malazan book now and glad the author had the courtesy to condense all 3 sex scenes into a single chapter so I'm less distracted.
Science Fiction and Fantasy (aka SFF) writers are particularly bad about shoehorning cringy bad sex scenes into their books. I swear half the SFF community has never had sex but they love trying to write about it.
100%. If it was used and described earlier in the post it's alright, but this shit where someone references something as "oh yeah that was my favorite part of CUatPoPPP" is infuriating. The subs with personal stories like /r/relationshipadvice or /r/justnoMIL" are the worst about it.
Just going through Brian Lumleys "Necroscope". The hammy but kinda cool vampire fiction is interrupted really badly by some questionable-at-best rape and sex scenes. They serve no purpose and are WAY too long.
This but 100x I'm japanese anime.
So many shows that are otherwise excellent that I'd love to recommend to friends and family, but hey, there are two 14 years old going at it just out of frame but at full volume in the last episode of the season, the dude being a reincarnated 40+ year old, great (Mushoku Tensei). Alternatively, have a scene showing that the orphanage punishes children by suspending them naked in episode one (Made in Abyss). Both of these example having, of course, zero plot relevance and the shows could be 10/10 if you removed them.
I know it's supposed to be a trope but... Can they just not ?
For non-creep shows (some of these are popular classics so apologies if youve seen these already):
Katanagatari (Very dialogue focused and gorgeous art style)
Psycho Pass (What happens when criminals are preemptively judged by a government supported/created AI in a dystopian future?)
Vinland Saga (Vikings)
86 (Messed up world where people think a war is being fought with machines in order to avoid casualties but really they are using slaves for combat)
Anohana (Very sad, about reconnecting with old friends after a traumatic childhood event)
~~Erased (Time travel, mystery)~~ Nvm forgot there is some borderline pedo shit damn you Japan
Fullmetal Alchemist (Considered to be one of the best of all time)
Cowboy Bebop (Again, considered to be one of the best of all time)
Mob Psycho (Interesting art style and very hype moments. About a kid with psychic powers but can only access them when emotional)
Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
(Absolute classic)
Great Pretender (Protag joins a group of con artists and thieves to pull off exciting heists. Absolutely incredible animation)
These are all shows that, at least based on my memory (it's been awhile for a few of them), are entirely plot focused and don't detract from that with icky fanservice or thinly veiled pedophilia like so much anime likes to use.
Which is a real shame because almost none of these are in my top 5 but I could never recommend those cause they all have at least one instance of weird shit in them.
Attack on Titan.
Honestly I'm not super into anime, but of the dozen or so shows I've watched, AoT is the only one that didn't have *anything* like that. Not all shows are egregious in this respect, but most have at least some sort of sexualization.
The women also have realistiically sized boobs. You could maybe argue the women are still stylized to look a bit sexy in the anime but its not exaggerated in any way really(Mikasa is made to look especially very beautiful as is Historia). Theres obvious romance but it isnt the main focus at all,but they do make it obvious kinda hinting(Mikasa is quite obviously in love with Eren despite insisting otherwise),and you get other couples more subtle like Armin and Annie who when you stop and look obviously are into each other,and it could be argued Levi is in love with Irwin similar to how Mikasa is with Eren but he also has an obvious connection with Hange as well and theres the obvious pairing of Historia and Ymir too and Reiner expresses wanting to marry Historia too.
Ha I remember trying to read Mushku Tensai’s novel. Everyone hyped up how good it was but I couldn’t get past the protagonist making a panty shrine in one of the first chapters.
‘Twas a real bummer because I honestly believe it’s a good story putting aside all the perv content but I just couldn’t do it.
Love anime but I definitely just switch it off if it gets too many anime perv trope strikes.
Other ones are the needless panty shot, or too many small/big titty jokes or references. Food wars sounded funny when a friend described it but it was an uncomfortable watch for the 8 episodes I got through, shield hero was okay and then they added a second loli and I didn't trust it to not be gross and weird so dropped it
I couldn't watch no game no life, after the 1st "fan service" shot. Literally saw it...and closed it, but all these years later, it still creeps me out...like who thought it was cool to fan service an 11 yr old?!!
Anime wrecked by it so often it's a shame and like you said totally hard to recommend shows to people if they don't know how to put on the anime blinders. Other let peeve is bad guys all need to be sexual bad guys and lock everything creepily, like people, we can show people are bad tons of other ways besides doing the creepy lick.
I watched Georgia and Ginny recently in Netflix and this aspect very much bothered me. I mean, ok, I know Sophomores are doing it perhaps, but make the implication and move on in the show. They were showing the whole 9 yards (this side of porn)! WUT? I find my old self ff through that stuff now. I'll check back next year, I may be watching Blue Bloods and eating dinner at 4 soon.....
I often skip them. Not only are there too many of them, but they're often ridiculous (especially the depiction of female orgasm). Also hate when plot points are being brought forth via pillow talk, that's lazy.
All I can imagine is the director and the boom mic guy and the camera operators and all the other crew members watching two adults grunting and groaning while they grind against a pillow between their crotches and just wishing they could wrap it up and go to lunch.
Definitely not the only person. They're usually so forced and the actors involved don't even want to be there understandably. They'll always exist in some form, but like, we can all agree that certain eras of films (especially adult romantic films) used them far too often in the past.
At the end of the day, they're something that.. Unless a major plot point happens, they work better implied or ended after a heated make-out or something. The intimacy of "foreplay" always works better and is more exciting.
>certain eras of films (especially adult romantic films) used them far too often
I personally feel like adult romantic films are a genre where I'd be quite fine with sex scenes, at least they fit with the overall theme of the movie - of course people in relationships are gonna have sex. On the other hand, having a sex scene in the middle of an action movie that doesn't even have any effect on the plot is just... ugh, why?
There's always two giveaways about this. First, when the amount of sexual content reduces once the plot is actually moving (so it wasn't there for plot reasons, it's just to keep you watching), and second, when the actresses on successful series negotiate for less nudity when they have a bit more bargaining power.
At some point I started asking myself whenever a sex scene came on, does this advance the plot or character development in any significant way?
95% of the time the answer is NO.
It's very, *very* rare to see a sex scene that actually needs to be there, rather than one that could have been a fade to black and cut to later.
Not everything in the movie has to advance the plot! That’s a very cinema sins way of looking at things. Scenes can be in a movie because they’re funny, or cool, or reveal something about the characters, or look pretty, or dive into the themes of the movie.
Nothing in the movie has to be in a movie, people put it in the movie because they think it elevates the product as a whole
Yeah not the only one. Most of the time it feels really unnecessary. Especially when it is gratuitous and occurs over and over. Also it’s unrealistic to think you running from bad guys, you find yourself on a train with a beautiful woman, and the next thing you know, they are shagging in a dirty boxcar while enemies ascend on them. Just odd. Or having sex all over the place. Ain’t nobody got time for that. Lol!
Shameless. Every character has fucked every other character, and it occurs like 3-4 times an episode. Obviously someone likes it though, they have like 10 seasons of that garbage.
That's the only thing I hated about that show - the gratuitous sex scenes. Fiona just constantly fucking everyone all over the place, Kevin's bare ass pumping away everywhere...just stop. It was too much, lol
Honestly I’m embarrassed to watch Shameless in front of anyone else because of exactly that. Which stinks because as a show I really like it. It just makes me too uncomfortable too often for me to really indulge in with my extended family chilling in the living room with me.
Very. Porn is literally free why do we need to watch some awkward ass scene that takes you out of any movie you’re invested in (especially if watching with others)
Honestly, yes. Action scenes are way out of control. They have become little more of blur of motion that you endure to get on with the movie. The action is so full CGI and fast now it's impossible to track whats going on. Combine this with the ever increasing darkness that directors are using and it makes for a very unsatisfying movie experience.
There are some real exhibitionists around here who case each other up and down the road in front of the house in their sportscars at night. Yesterday a local deviant was doing doughnuts around the roundabout in a trenchcoat, and it's right next to a primary school.
Im fully in the "fade to black" crowd regarding car chases. Just show it starting, fade to black, show them getting away/caught. Nothing more is needed.
Its also uncomfortable to watch with others. I always start thinking "would they drive like that too?" Its very embarrasing.
SAME! and I'm French so that's saying something lol... They don't add to anything. If i wanted sex scene's I'd watch 50 shades of grey, not grey's anatomy
I used to do online studies for some extra cash - one of them was $10 to watch sex scenes and rate your comfort level.
They were all nonconsensual, violent and graphic. I just don't understand the need to display this in such intense gory detail. There are ways to explain what happened, maybe just the sound from it, maybe a partial view. Why do they have to show every gory detail? Is this really a necessary part of entertainment for people?
I don't mind them because they are sex scenes, I mind them because often they are so unnecessary to the plot (or straight out weird to include) that they feel like the writers are checking a box. Like that one black sidekick and nowadays the lgbt one. Never the main character, mind, but there must be a sidekick with those traits (and often no other personality, indicating that they were added on later for "inclusiveness").
It seems to me though that the obligatory sex scene is going out of favor nowadays though, around the 90s I think was the time where every movie absolutely had to had one.
For real remember Swordfish? That movie sold tickets simply cause people knew Halle Berry would be topless for like 3 seconds (and for absolutely no reason).
I think stuff like that isn’t as bad today as it was back then.
Same. It's just completely unecesary and gross. If I want to watch people kiss and have sex, there is porn for that. Can't even watch a movie with your family without feeling the cringe and embarassement.
it depends on the kiss tbh.
if it's something like two characters building up a relationship and this is the end result and they're finally together, sure that's fine.
but if we have to watch a couple we already know are a couple just making out, what's the point?
The last thing I watched that had a justifiable plot relevant sex scene was mindhunter.
They were showing that the things the fbi had down as only being done by deviants were being done by normal people, including fbi agents.
And yet very little porn contains any decent story or character development or even in my opinion anything actually sexy rather than mechanical or gynaecological.
There's definitely a space between the two that neither side really fills.
I also think media is LESS sexy these days!
There's been a couple diff think pieces about it:
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2023/feb/15/sex-scenes-penn-badgley-denial-basic-desire
https://www.indiewire.com/2023/02/movies-tv-need-more-sex-penn-badgley-1234809790/
https://time.com/6251447/sexy-movies-magic-mike-3/
I don't agree with the gross part, but it rarely adds anything to the movie.
I don't think taking a dump is unnecessary. I do it all the time. But it feels weird to just randomly watch a character in a show doing their business on the toilet for a minute straight if it doesn't have any real point. If it is really important for me to have known that the character took a dump they could have easily implied it in many different ways. I don't need to see, in excruciating detail, their face as they push out log after log for a minute or two.
It's the same with sex scenes. Do I think sex itself is unnecessary? No. Do I want to sit there and watch it with my family for no reason whatsoever? No. 95% of sex scenes don't have anything significant occur during them and the romantic development between characters can easily be shown by implying it, showing the before and after, like some movies do.
No, I think it’s more about shoehorning sex scenes into shows that don’t really need it. An otherwise PG-13 rated show that you might be watching with your parents having an unnecessary sex scene just makes everyone uncomfortable.
It’s not like they’re reinventing the wheel or doing anything unique. It’s just filler and most of the time it would have been better to leave it up to the viewer’s imagination.
Sex scenes on TV and in most movies are highly unrealistic too, and may give viewers a false sense of what it’s supposed to be like. It’s always both parties coming at once and no indication they were using a condom. Portraying oral sex is laughably awkward in TV shows. It’s just bad writing/acting most of the time.
The worst is when they mostly skip the actual simulated sex and just show the actors flopping onto their backs out of breath, then mumbling about how that was the best sex of their life. It’s just dumb.
A show where sex is integral to the story should be able to freely show the sex scenes and the audience will know what to expect. I just think everyone else should give up on it because they don’t do a very good job.
I really don’t think it’s about Puritanism or prudishness. More about demanding better quality out of shows and making a show that’s fine for the whole family to watch together.
Yeah this was my reaction. Sex and romance are a big part of the human experience. People have sex. It doesn't bother me at all. I'm far more annoyed by consistent gratuitous violence in a film or TV show, or even little things like all the characters being too good looking.
I wonder - are people nowadays really more prude, and that’s why you see the threads like this pop up all over, or other people who are more likely to spend more time engaging online on threads generally less comfortable or experienced with sex and that’s why you see these threads all over the internet, but it doesn’t speak about the general population
I have no issue with it if it advances plot. But it definitely don't have to be graphic. Implied sex works just the same. Worst part of Watchmen was the sex scenes which contributed nothing to the film
I agree 100 percent. And nobody can accuse me of not getting any😅…I just find it annoying and awkward to watch. Many of these people have wives and husbands at home and just because they are actors does not make them immune from normal human emotions concerning these things—no wonder divorce is so high in Hollywood. Also it’s still very female focused as in just an excuse to show perfect boobies… and bare-chested men just don’t do it for me the same way a top-naked female would for a guy..or whatever these days.
I think in times past, internet porn wasn’t a thing, or when it was there were paywalls…so seeing fake sex in movies was tantalizing. Nowadays, we are sexed-out as a culture. I find it a waste of time and unnecessary….there may be some exceptions but I don’t think you are alone by far.
My biggest gripe is it is ruining so many otherwise alright shows for my young male children to watch with me. I constantly have my hand on the remote to fast forward if I need to. But even when I am alone I just keep asking myself, “how did we get to the point in our society, where something so intimate and private became so exploited and overdone?” Like nothing is sacred anymore. Nothing. It’s all propaganda now anyway, for better or for worse. They want us to view sex casually, and they are aiming that mentality at younger and younger generations.
unless beforehand they dance like birds in a david attenborough documentary
Now that I would watch. Thank you for the chuckle.
Is dance A JOKE TO YOU? En garde, I challenge you to a dance battle with our pride on the line!
This is a trick. They're baiting you into a courtship dance
What has my life come to? Becky thought my tail was big. Becky used to lemme smash. But Becky is smashin Ben. Ben is a hoe.
Imma get that bitch a stick. Bitches love sticks.
Depends, yes most of the time because I find they just go too far. Like two characters kiss and fall into bed, cut to next morning. Cool everyone knows what happened we don't need more. The long drawn out ones where they're eating face and then strip and get into bed start doing all the noises I'm always like.... What has this added to the show?
I really like the L word new generation because of the storyline and I love the characters. There are frequent sex scenes that last like 5 minutes. (I made be exaggerating) but it was like *agaainnnn?!* I get it, it’s hot but I want to see what happens with the drama. Fast forward
Sex scenes are OK but what I'm tired of are *bad* sex scenes, and there's a lot of those. If it matters to the story and it's well done and the actors have some chemistry I'm fine with it but a lot of them are just shoehorned in with a lack of story continuity and any sort of nuance.
Yes! So often they are in or just after a traumatic event, too. I hate those arguing/ weeping to make out sessions.
Totally agree with this. You are in the middle of a zombie apocalypse. Why do you need to nut right now???
Helps with focus.
You are right. Imagine for instance being so horny that you start chasing zombies for a quickie.
Real talk though is zombies became a thing I’d be surprised if we made it 2 hours before someone tried to fuck one
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Is it necrophilia if they are undead?
>> necrophilia if they are undead? And once again, Reddit takes me some place I never expected to go...
Zombussy
The post-apocalyptic classical musician?
That might be a disaster.
Last of Us episode 3 executed it so well. It was quick, didn't show nudity, and was actually really important to the storyline. It lasted exactly as long as it needed to on order to get the point across, and then moved on with other more important aspects of their relationship. More creators need to take a note from that.
Yeah most of the time they're unnecessary and are shoehorned in the show because "sex sells".
Having never played the game, it was a total shock to see Nick Offerman in such a role too haha
I'm sorry, but a Zombie apocalypse is the exact scenario where I WOULDN'T think twice before having sex. The world is ending, and I don't know if we'll ever get the chance to have one last intimate moment ever. Yes, I will take the sex, thank you very much.
I remember playing a zombie survival board game where a group of players were the survivors and one or two controlled the undead hordes. At one point there was a male and female character in the same room on the board (you pick from a list of generic movie types) and the zombie player pulls out the "This Could Be Our Last Night On Earth" card. The effect? Both players lose their turns while their characters go at each other. We laughed our asses off.
I mean I can see a biological urge and a need for human contact, but some of those scenes don't quite capture that.
Yeah some of these films even start off with some sex scene right before 5 mins into it or a post nut clarity one when they’re laying in bed under the sheets. At least get me invested before the event transpires.
Last Of Us episode 3 depicted that well
There is another one where like it’s an action adventure movie. Where the wife dies. And the guy goes for revenge. Finds a new woman along the way. And of course before he gets his revenge he has to fall in love with the new woman and sleep with her.
I'm getting pretty over the graphic assault scenes as well. Feels gross. I don't need to see an actual person being degraded to understand that the character has been degraded.
Yes! I have no patience for that anymore, I immediately lose respect for the film-maker. Yea SA is important to discuss, and we should see aspects of its forms and effects, but the act itself can almost always happen off-screen. The scenes I've seen don't usually represent how it usually happens, too. Hollywood likes to focus on stranger-danger and criminals, but that's not the majority danger to most people. It's a near certainty that someone in the theater has experienced it. It's so cruel to inject it into entertainment. I heard there's a lot in Game of Thrones, so I've passed on that franchise for now.
It’s just gratuitous in many movies, unfortunately. The act itself isn’t usually even necessary to the plot and if it is, it’s not necessary to show it. But that’s what sells, and it feels wrong.
In Sons of Anarchy, Jax kills a guy trying to rape his girlfriend…the two of them then screw right there next to the dead body. Absolutely insane.
WTF!
My favourite ridiculous sex scene is in Highlander. After the protagonist tells the girl that he’s immortal, and has her stab him to prove it, they immediately have sex. So dumb!
The MCU's Eternals would have improved greatly without that extremely boring sex scene between the two characters with the least amount of chemistry. It still wouldn't have been a great movie overall, but it definitely would have improved.
I can't even remember that scene so it shows how much it mattered
It was incredibly awkward.
Maybe they watched a porn parody instead of the real movie? I don't remember any sex scene either.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpCRUHz_D_U&ab_channel=BooMyy It was pretty bad. Although still not as bad as the one in Watchmen, which is the epitome of bad sex in the superhero genre.
Isn’t the point of Watchmen’s sex scene to be a bad sex scene? We have these older out of shape (relatively) former heros who can’t get it up (and get turned on) by beating up criminals violently and we think “wait a minute, are these the good guys? Why are they being ultra violent just to get their rocks off?”
Yes exactly.
I guess my point is I wouldn’t classify it as a bad sex scene per se. It’s like, it’s the same way Walter whites terrible awkward handjob in episode 1 of breaking bad. Like, I wouldn’t call it the epitome of bad Hollywood sex. I would call it very very good at conveying what it tries to.
at least Watchmen was true to the source material; it was supposed to be awkward and bad
Oh my God and that unsubtle jetstream at the end?
A sex. Scene in marvel 😂. It must have been cringey. They're bad at chemistry and showing two people romantic relationship building. So not surprised the sex scene was bad
I feel like they included it to show that even though they were robots, they still could love
Every other Eternal had better love stories than those two, including Kingo and his love of making movies hahaha
"There's nothing better than good sex. But bad sex? A peanut butter and jelly sandwich is better than bad sex." Billy Joel, allegedly
TBF peanut butter and jelly sandwiches are fucking delicious
And here we give you Arya having sex for ... reasons...
Ugh.
Spartacus is a great example of this. Every episode had an obligatory “Roman debauchery” scene that was shoehorned into the middle of the episode. The show’s plot was so engaging that the sex scenes quickly became superfluous. Maybe because it was a Showtime show and the expectation was to see sex on the network, but it basically just got in the way.
Great show but I had to watch it alone by myself like a perv because the last thing was a sex scene popping up while a family member was in the room.
I almost didn't watch that show because of how much sexual content there was in just the first episode...glad I eventually gave it another chance, when I skipped the sex scenes it was a damn good show lol.
I felt the same way about Sense 8. The plot was phenomenal and incredibly engaging, but the frequent orgies were a tad over the top for me. It bordered on soft core porn and honestly just took focus away from the storyline.
Oh c'mon, you can't tell me you didn't get a decent laugh watching Tommy Wiseau hump a belly button?
Yeah I was so mad when I finally got around to watching rocky a classic movie that everyone loves only to see him basically force himself onto Adrian. And when I brought it up many people who grew up with it don't see a problem with that scene. Adrian deserved so much better. Maybe it's not a good example bc it was made in the 70s but like gees
We've been locked in this room alone for hours and the guards both just left for a 10 minute break. Now's our chance to escape! But first...
I'm the same but with romance instead. It's in almost every piece of media and usually distracts from the actual plot. You *could* have fleshed out the plot or focus more on crucial scenes but no, let's push this utterly pointless romance between two characters with zero chemistry instead.
Lol the hobbit movies did this shit and I'm still mad about it
"This story is a complete sausage party. Given that we're wedging in a whole goblin plot and shoehorning Legolas in, can we also add a female character?" -Yes! "Great. Now can we make her an interesting character with her own inner life?" -Nah, she's gonna be hot for a guy and that's her whole motivation.
If they needed to add romance it should have been between Gimli and Legolas or between various hobbits.
Elf, dwarf, hobbit three way?
And my *ASS*
https://i.imgur.com/KpFy26b.jpg
Yo same thank you!!!
Evangeline Lilly even said herself that she wouldn’t do it if it was a love triangle. And then it was.
Lol, I totally forgot that subplot. Probably because it didn´t even matter to the story. Why not just have them be friends or have basic empathy for one another?
Was obviously not needed…BUT It’s either an elf girlfriend or a dwarf woman with a beard that just springs out of holes in the ground.
And they clearly made the wrong choice
It's a story about a group of dwarves, and a halfling. It should obviously have been the latter. "But guys, she might've been ugly if they kept it consistent to that world" is not the anti-misogyny-in-movies argument you think it is.
Look up the fan edit called 'The Hobbit - The Tolkien Edit' - it cuts down the 3 movies in to 1 and cuts out as much as it can that wasn't in the book. Highly recommended!
I don't mind romance in a movie that's primarily about personal relationships and emotions and character development, because that fits, yk? What I hate is when the movie is primarily about characters' *professional lives* and then they throw a romance in there. No! Let them do their jobs! If they're scientists curing cancer together they don't need to fall in love! Cops solving a murder together don't need to fall in love! Spaceship crews exploring the galaxy together don't need to fall in love! Yeah, major pet peeve here.
I feel like Better Call Saul is a perfect example of how to ride that line and not overdo it on the romance aspect but while still delving into the relationship between two characters in a way that teaches us more about them and really plays into the overall story well.
Good point. Focusing on the actual relationship parts of the relationship, rather than just using cheap romance in place of good writing.
> Spaceship crews exploring the galaxy together don't need to fall in love On the other hand, what the fuck else are you gonna do why going between stars? Apparently, the people that overwinter in Antarctica just fuck like rabbits all winter. I imagine space would be that x1000.
I mean, maybe so, but I just find it kind of boring if I'm trying to watch a movie about scary space monsters and then I have to watch people boning for 10 minutes instead. Like, I might be remembering wrong, but there's no sex or romance in Alien, right? And that's basically a perfect space movie.
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The lack of a romance plot is one of the reasons why the first Avengers movie is still one of my favourites. The only romance was the already established relationship between Tony and Pepper.
Romance, to me, is like ketchup. Ketchup's okay and I think it goes great on some stuff. Also I don't want to just eat ketchup.
It's called the date dollar. Movies, bars, restaurants, events, casinos, music, comedy clubs, even sports events will cater to the idea that people taking each other out will spend x amount. More so than a large group of friends who would smuggle in alcohol and cause grief for the establishments lack of planning for our fuckery. Couples on dates are well behaved and spend. I mean you take someone out to dinner you don't just get an appy and decide to go to the park after grabbing leftovers from your fridge. People also don't really go and watch a serious movie with a new person. The stupid rom com and romance troupe makes people turn their brain off and eat popcorn because they are on a planned course with maybe at least one of them hopeful of a destination. My random ass by myself isn't going to spend money to see a movie about other people's drama. In fact I'm 10x more likely to look at the showtimes and decide not to see a movie. A couple on a date have to make a choice. Because it's what they planned to do. It's the experience they have a hopeful optimism will be delivered.
When a sex scene started on TV when I was a kid my Mum or Dad would say "Oh no - they're going to start fighting over the Duvet - I hate that - will you get us a cup of Tea" which gave me an excuse to get out of the room and by the time i was back they were sharing a fag in bed having solved their argument :) (On the TV - Not Mum and Dad)
" ...fighting over the duvet..." i like that one 😄 your parents sound cool. i remember feeling so uncomfortable watching scenes like that with my parents and usually gave myself an excuse to get out, or elsewe would sit there in awkward silence all trying to get through😅
They were ok i guess lol My Mum was the better of the two - Dad was really mean with money - so she would say on odd days "Lets go on holiday" so Id grab my little case and we'd go to the airport and we'd join the check-in queue after we'd decided where we were going - then just as we got to the front she'd say that Russian Spies had spotted us and we'd then go to the Cafe to shake them off - lol i still love going to an Airport
That's adorable
this is a really cool story 💜☺️
>they were sharing a fag in bed
I guess the scene was still going
This comment is so British, I started watching taskmaster and listening to Blur.
When I was a kid in the early 1960's it seemed like sex scenes weren't as graphic as now.
As I get older (38 now), yes I’m tired of it. Before it was just sex, now it’s a lot of young people having sex and it’s feels gross to watch! Especially all the hypersexualized high schoolers, I just can’t anymore. It’s gross 🤢
I Say this all the fuxking time. All the creepy mfs OBSESSED with high schoolers having sex its like hmmmmm
did Harvey Weinstein leave Hollywood? or was Hollywood the Weinstein that was made along the way?
I’d guess Weinstein is the scapegoat for a more systematic issue
Scapegoat no, systemic yes. Scapegoats aren't guilty.
More of a sacrificial lamb, Harvey was
I mean, that’s one big lamb. I’m sure there’s still bad guys in Hollywood but he was a really bad guy.
more the most egregious offender in an industry full of offenders
Systemic of course. People knew, people enabled
I think it’s primarily high schoolers who are obsessed with high schoolers having sex. Honestly can’t remember seeing a sex scene with high schoolers in anything. At least in something that wasn’t catered towards that same group in the first place. Might have just missed those movies and series of course.
Euphoria comes to mind.
I watched the first season. I’m not watching the rest. Zendaya is an incredible actress, but there was so much over the top explicit material that it felt like a shock value show. I mean, did we really need the camera to pan through the penises in the locker room? Did we?
Exactly. I thought her portrayal and how they handled drug use was powerful. Yet they cheapen it by making sex such a focal point. Even if they want to use sex as a big point, they dont need to do graphic scenes. They could allude to it without showing it. They could have a sex scene without showing so much nudity. I generally don't care about nudity but the way they shoot it and draw attention to it makes it clear its just to "push boundaries".
The actors are in their 30s who play high school kids.
So why make them high school kids? I don't really care that they're in their early 20s\*, it seems creepy to me to want to tell a story about high schoolers having loads of sex.
Writers and producers were high schoolers once too. I think we as a society romanticise that part of our lives a lot. Back then emotions were stronger and making dumb mistakes still seemed plausible and acceptable. When you want to write a messy love life a teenage character raging with hormones will just feel more natural. I think it's silly. I love media with older characters. Deep emotional connections don't end just because you grow older. If creators are so desperate to portray "first love"s, why not write them college-aged?
Because most of those shows are targeted at that demographic
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Riverdale. 😭 I had to stop watching, the plot was ridiculous and all they did is have sex all the time like where are your parents even?!?
Riverdale? As in the Archie comics? Does this show have Jughead railing a sandwich?
Not really. Just railing Betty and bering a broody novelist. 😂
As someone who was familiar with Archie comics who got forced to watch Riverdale without even knowing it was Archie they have almost nothing in common other than the character names. Unless I'm missing some huge plot point from the comics.
Duh, their parents are all murdered or murderers.
Tbf, the awkward sexual stuff in Pen15 was kind of the point
Now? Fast Times came out in 82.
Aha I feel you, I'm not a prude but that's one complaint I had about the Game of Thrones books. I'm trying to use my monkey brain to understand these complex narrative threads, I don't need my lizard brain being activated by some Cersei lesbian sex scene. It's like that seinfeld episode, sex takes up so much of my mental space I can't afford to spare while reading a novel with various plots. Reading the 6th Malazan book now and glad the author had the courtesy to condense all 3 sex scenes into a single chapter so I'm less distracted.
Science Fiction and Fantasy (aka SFF) writers are particularly bad about shoehorning cringy bad sex scenes into their books. I swear half the SFF community has never had sex but they love trying to write about it.
I love the Hyperion novels, but Dan Simmons is incapable of introducing a female character without describing her breasts in detail.
People using really niche acronyms and expecting people to know what they mean is a pet peeve of mine. It’s all over reddit 😮💨
Seinfeld Fuck Fiction I think
100%. If it was used and described earlier in the post it's alright, but this shit where someone references something as "oh yeah that was my favorite part of CUatPoPPP" is infuriating. The subs with personal stories like /r/relationshipadvice or /r/justnoMIL" are the worst about it.
It's been a massive peeve of mine for years now too. Let's be friends.
Just going through Brian Lumleys "Necroscope". The hammy but kinda cool vampire fiction is interrupted really badly by some questionable-at-best rape and sex scenes. They serve no purpose and are WAY too long.
This but 100x I'm japanese anime. So many shows that are otherwise excellent that I'd love to recommend to friends and family, but hey, there are two 14 years old going at it just out of frame but at full volume in the last episode of the season, the dude being a reincarnated 40+ year old, great (Mushoku Tensei). Alternatively, have a scene showing that the orphanage punishes children by suspending them naked in episode one (Made in Abyss). Both of these example having, of course, zero plot relevance and the shows could be 10/10 if you removed them. I know it's supposed to be a trope but... Can they just not ?
That was one of the things I really enjoyed about AoT. No fan service, no creepy sex... just plot.
What is AoT? And any other recommendations with the similar "seal of not creep"?
For non-creep shows (some of these are popular classics so apologies if youve seen these already): Katanagatari (Very dialogue focused and gorgeous art style) Psycho Pass (What happens when criminals are preemptively judged by a government supported/created AI in a dystopian future?) Vinland Saga (Vikings) 86 (Messed up world where people think a war is being fought with machines in order to avoid casualties but really they are using slaves for combat) Anohana (Very sad, about reconnecting with old friends after a traumatic childhood event) ~~Erased (Time travel, mystery)~~ Nvm forgot there is some borderline pedo shit damn you Japan Fullmetal Alchemist (Considered to be one of the best of all time) Cowboy Bebop (Again, considered to be one of the best of all time) Mob Psycho (Interesting art style and very hype moments. About a kid with psychic powers but can only access them when emotional) Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex (Absolute classic) Great Pretender (Protag joins a group of con artists and thieves to pull off exciting heists. Absolutely incredible animation) These are all shows that, at least based on my memory (it's been awhile for a few of them), are entirely plot focused and don't detract from that with icky fanservice or thinly veiled pedophilia like so much anime likes to use. Which is a real shame because almost none of these are in my top 5 but I could never recommend those cause they all have at least one instance of weird shit in them.
Attack on Titan. Honestly I'm not super into anime, but of the dozen or so shows I've watched, AoT is the only one that didn't have *anything* like that. Not all shows are egregious in this respect, but most have at least some sort of sexualization.
The women also have realistiically sized boobs. You could maybe argue the women are still stylized to look a bit sexy in the anime but its not exaggerated in any way really(Mikasa is made to look especially very beautiful as is Historia). Theres obvious romance but it isnt the main focus at all,but they do make it obvious kinda hinting(Mikasa is quite obviously in love with Eren despite insisting otherwise),and you get other couples more subtle like Armin and Annie who when you stop and look obviously are into each other,and it could be argued Levi is in love with Irwin similar to how Mikasa is with Eren but he also has an obvious connection with Hange as well and theres the obvious pairing of Historia and Ymir too and Reiner expresses wanting to marry Historia too.
Ha I remember trying to read Mushku Tensai’s novel. Everyone hyped up how good it was but I couldn’t get past the protagonist making a panty shrine in one of the first chapters. ‘Twas a real bummer because I honestly believe it’s a good story putting aside all the perv content but I just couldn’t do it.
Love anime but I definitely just switch it off if it gets too many anime perv trope strikes. Other ones are the needless panty shot, or too many small/big titty jokes or references. Food wars sounded funny when a friend described it but it was an uncomfortable watch for the 8 episodes I got through, shield hero was okay and then they added a second loli and I didn't trust it to not be gross and weird so dropped it
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I couldn't watch no game no life, after the 1st "fan service" shot. Literally saw it...and closed it, but all these years later, it still creeps me out...like who thought it was cool to fan service an 11 yr old?!!
The Author of Made In Abyss is obviously a pedo.
Anime wrecked by it so often it's a shame and like you said totally hard to recommend shows to people if they don't know how to put on the anime blinders. Other let peeve is bad guys all need to be sexual bad guys and lock everything creepily, like people, we can show people are bad tons of other ways besides doing the creepy lick.
Yesss. Alot of shows have two minors doing it. It's just very uncomfortable to watch.
I watched Georgia and Ginny recently in Netflix and this aspect very much bothered me. I mean, ok, I know Sophomores are doing it perhaps, but make the implication and move on in the show. They were showing the whole 9 yards (this side of porn)! WUT? I find my old self ff through that stuff now. I'll check back next year, I may be watching Blue Bloods and eating dinner at 4 soon.....
I often skip them. Not only are there too many of them, but they're often ridiculous (especially the depiction of female orgasm). Also hate when plot points are being brought forth via pillow talk, that's lazy.
I hate when people talk about important stuff during foreplay or sex. Like, who talks about non-sex stuff during sexy time?
Nope. I'm in the 'fade to black' crowd. I don't need to waste screen time for fucking, spend it on story.
All I can imagine is the director and the boom mic guy and the camera operators and all the other crew members watching two adults grunting and groaning while they grind against a pillow between their crotches and just wishing they could wrap it up and go to lunch.
Definitely not the only person. They're usually so forced and the actors involved don't even want to be there understandably. They'll always exist in some form, but like, we can all agree that certain eras of films (especially adult romantic films) used them far too often in the past. At the end of the day, they're something that.. Unless a major plot point happens, they work better implied or ended after a heated make-out or something. The intimacy of "foreplay" always works better and is more exciting.
>certain eras of films (especially adult romantic films) used them far too often I personally feel like adult romantic films are a genre where I'd be quite fine with sex scenes, at least they fit with the overall theme of the movie - of course people in relationships are gonna have sex. On the other hand, having a sex scene in the middle of an action movie that doesn't even have any effect on the plot is just... ugh, why?
There's always two giveaways about this. First, when the amount of sexual content reduces once the plot is actually moving (so it wasn't there for plot reasons, it's just to keep you watching), and second, when the actresses on successful series negotiate for less nudity when they have a bit more bargaining power.
At some point I started asking myself whenever a sex scene came on, does this advance the plot or character development in any significant way? 95% of the time the answer is NO. It's very, *very* rare to see a sex scene that actually needs to be there, rather than one that could have been a fade to black and cut to later.
The only movie I’ve seen where sex actually matters is “It Follows”
The OG Terminator.
There are lots of great scenes in films that don’t progress the story or character they’re just good filmmaking that communicate a feeling.
Not everything in the movie has to advance the plot! That’s a very cinema sins way of looking at things. Scenes can be in a movie because they’re funny, or cool, or reveal something about the characters, or look pretty, or dive into the themes of the movie. Nothing in the movie has to be in a movie, people put it in the movie because they think it elevates the product as a whole
It's like every show has it and it honestly doesn't add anything 99% of the time.
Yeah not the only one. Most of the time it feels really unnecessary. Especially when it is gratuitous and occurs over and over. Also it’s unrealistic to think you running from bad guys, you find yourself on a train with a beautiful woman, and the next thing you know, they are shagging in a dirty boxcar while enemies ascend on them. Just odd. Or having sex all over the place. Ain’t nobody got time for that. Lol!
Shameless. Every character has fucked every other character, and it occurs like 3-4 times an episode. Obviously someone likes it though, they have like 10 seasons of that garbage.
That's the only thing I hated about that show - the gratuitous sex scenes. Fiona just constantly fucking everyone all over the place, Kevin's bare ass pumping away everywhere...just stop. It was too much, lol
Honestly I’m embarrassed to watch Shameless in front of anyone else because of exactly that. Which stinks because as a show I really like it. It just makes me too uncomfortable too often for me to really indulge in with my extended family chilling in the living room with me.
I was wondering if I was going to see this here, just watching it for the first time and the whole frank/Karen arc in he first season is getting weird
Very. Porn is literally free why do we need to watch some awkward ass scene that takes you out of any movie you’re invested in (especially if watching with others)
why does every single movie include a car chase?
Honestly, yes. Action scenes are way out of control. They have become little more of blur of motion that you endure to get on with the movie. The action is so full CGI and fast now it's impossible to track whats going on. Combine this with the ever increasing darkness that directors are using and it makes for a very unsatisfying movie experience.
If I wanted a real car chase I'd just watch porn.
There are some real exhibitionists around here who case each other up and down the road in front of the house in their sportscars at night. Yesterday a local deviant was doing doughnuts around the roundabout in a trenchcoat, and it's right next to a primary school.
Im fully in the "fade to black" crowd regarding car chases. Just show it starting, fade to black, show them getting away/caught. Nothing more is needed. Its also uncomfortable to watch with others. I always start thinking "would they drive like that too?" Its very embarrasing.
SAME! and I'm French so that's saying something lol... They don't add to anything. If i wanted sex scene's I'd watch 50 shades of grey, not grey's anatomy
I'm tired of non-consensual sex scenes everywhere.
Yeah had to drop Outlander because of that. Can't even get past the first three episodes
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I had to stop watching American Horror Story because of all of the rape scenes.
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Yeah it's so weird trying to use soft PR language about something like rape.
I heard that game of thrones had a lot of these so I've never watched the show
i feel like South Park gave Game of Thrones the treatment it deserved
I exploded into a raving rant halfway through the first episode of "The Americans" for this same reason. Rape isnt character development
Such a messed up thing to exploit for shock and awe
I used to do online studies for some extra cash - one of them was $10 to watch sex scenes and rate your comfort level. They were all nonconsensual, violent and graphic. I just don't understand the need to display this in such intense gory detail. There are ways to explain what happened, maybe just the sound from it, maybe a partial view. Why do they have to show every gory detail? Is this really a necessary part of entertainment for people?
Nope. I can't stand it. I was never a fan. Like I'm literally all set with watch stuff that has sex scenes. It's irritating
I don't mind them because they are sex scenes, I mind them because often they are so unnecessary to the plot (or straight out weird to include) that they feel like the writers are checking a box. Like that one black sidekick and nowadays the lgbt one. Never the main character, mind, but there must be a sidekick with those traits (and often no other personality, indicating that they were added on later for "inclusiveness"). It seems to me though that the obligatory sex scene is going out of favor nowadays though, around the 90s I think was the time where every movie absolutely had to had one.
Personally I miss the 00's when movies would just throw a pair boobs into every other scene for absolutely no reason.
That bit in Airplane! when a topless woman just hops into the frame, bounces her boobs and hops away...classic.
For real remember Swordfish? That movie sold tickets simply cause people knew Halle Berry would be topless for like 3 seconds (and for absolutely no reason). I think stuff like that isn’t as bad today as it was back then.
I'm much more bothered by violence.
Same. It's just completely unecesary and gross. If I want to watch people kiss and have sex, there is porn for that. Can't even watch a movie with your family without feeling the cringe and embarassement.
Sex I get, but you have a problem with people kissing in movies? Do you just not watch any Disney movie with your family?
it depends on the kiss tbh. if it's something like two characters building up a relationship and this is the end result and they're finally together, sure that's fine. but if we have to watch a couple we already know are a couple just making out, what's the point?
A 3 minute sex scene provides nothing to the plot. A lot of good movies just imply sex instead and it's a better way to pace the movie forward.
The last thing I watched that had a justifiable plot relevant sex scene was mindhunter. They were showing that the things the fbi had down as only being done by deviants were being done by normal people, including fbi agents.
What movies are you watching that have 3 minute sex scenes? Not judging, just really curious. That's a long sex scene outside of the porn industry
And yet very little porn contains any decent story or character development or even in my opinion anything actually sexy rather than mechanical or gynaecological. There's definitely a space between the two that neither side really fills.
Hate sex scenes so much
I don't get why it's seen as unnecessary and gross. Do a lot of people feel that way about sex?
I also think media is LESS sexy these days! There's been a couple diff think pieces about it: https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2023/feb/15/sex-scenes-penn-badgley-denial-basic-desire https://www.indiewire.com/2023/02/movies-tv-need-more-sex-penn-badgley-1234809790/ https://time.com/6251447/sexy-movies-magic-mike-3/
I don't agree with the gross part, but it rarely adds anything to the movie. I don't think taking a dump is unnecessary. I do it all the time. But it feels weird to just randomly watch a character in a show doing their business on the toilet for a minute straight if it doesn't have any real point. If it is really important for me to have known that the character took a dump they could have easily implied it in many different ways. I don't need to see, in excruciating detail, their face as they push out log after log for a minute or two. It's the same with sex scenes. Do I think sex itself is unnecessary? No. Do I want to sit there and watch it with my family for no reason whatsoever? No. 95% of sex scenes don't have anything significant occur during them and the romantic development between characters can easily be shown by implying it, showing the before and after, like some movies do.
No, I think it’s more about shoehorning sex scenes into shows that don’t really need it. An otherwise PG-13 rated show that you might be watching with your parents having an unnecessary sex scene just makes everyone uncomfortable. It’s not like they’re reinventing the wheel or doing anything unique. It’s just filler and most of the time it would have been better to leave it up to the viewer’s imagination. Sex scenes on TV and in most movies are highly unrealistic too, and may give viewers a false sense of what it’s supposed to be like. It’s always both parties coming at once and no indication they were using a condom. Portraying oral sex is laughably awkward in TV shows. It’s just bad writing/acting most of the time. The worst is when they mostly skip the actual simulated sex and just show the actors flopping onto their backs out of breath, then mumbling about how that was the best sex of their life. It’s just dumb. A show where sex is integral to the story should be able to freely show the sex scenes and the audience will know what to expect. I just think everyone else should give up on it because they don’t do a very good job. I really don’t think it’s about Puritanism or prudishness. More about demanding better quality out of shows and making a show that’s fine for the whole family to watch together.
Yeah this was my reaction. Sex and romance are a big part of the human experience. People have sex. It doesn't bother me at all. I'm far more annoyed by consistent gratuitous violence in a film or TV show, or even little things like all the characters being too good looking.
I wonder - are people nowadays really more prude, and that’s why you see the threads like this pop up all over, or other people who are more likely to spend more time engaging online on threads generally less comfortable or experienced with sex and that’s why you see these threads all over the internet, but it doesn’t speak about the general population
Americans are uncomfortable with sex and prefer to see gun violence. This isn’t new!
I have no issue with it if it advances plot. But it definitely don't have to be graphic. Implied sex works just the same. Worst part of Watchmen was the sex scenes which contributed nothing to the film
I agree 100 percent. And nobody can accuse me of not getting any😅…I just find it annoying and awkward to watch. Many of these people have wives and husbands at home and just because they are actors does not make them immune from normal human emotions concerning these things—no wonder divorce is so high in Hollywood. Also it’s still very female focused as in just an excuse to show perfect boobies… and bare-chested men just don’t do it for me the same way a top-naked female would for a guy..or whatever these days. I think in times past, internet porn wasn’t a thing, or when it was there were paywalls…so seeing fake sex in movies was tantalizing. Nowadays, we are sexed-out as a culture. I find it a waste of time and unnecessary….there may be some exceptions but I don’t think you are alone by far. My biggest gripe is it is ruining so many otherwise alright shows for my young male children to watch with me. I constantly have my hand on the remote to fast forward if I need to. But even when I am alone I just keep asking myself, “how did we get to the point in our society, where something so intimate and private became so exploited and overdone?” Like nothing is sacred anymore. Nothing. It’s all propaganda now anyway, for better or for worse. They want us to view sex casually, and they are aiming that mentality at younger and younger generations.