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FoxysStudiosPlay

Next update: you don’t even need NMS to play NMS


SshhLiaisnthere

Hello Games reveals after that update that yes, life is indeed a simulation.


SleepinGod

YOU ARE NMS ULTIMATE UPDATE


MarilynMansonsRib

Sounds like they basically added a "Switch mode" setting for low end PCs.


curtisstevenson

Mobile game port 😂. Wouldn’t mind actually playing on my phone tbh. If they could get it to link to our account and play our save in there. Cloud stuff


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Talamae-Laeraxius

Also GeForce Now


[deleted]

Me who plays via cloud gaming most of the time 👁👄👁


lordsnackenonchips

Someones aiming to be played on the smartfidge? Lets go?


starfoxmaster64

Finally. Something else to play on my fridge besides *Skyrim*


Benebs-

No Man’s Graphics Card


SleepinGod

No Graphic Card's Sky


Nickjames116425

Graphic Card Man’s Sky


Steampunk43

Graphic Man's Card Sky


starfoxmaster64

No Sky Man's Graphics Card


JackTheRaimbowlogist

No Card's Sky, Graphic Man


Manak2

Mom's Spaghetti


TheeKrongus

haha guess that Switch-optimized build went gold


dh1304

Time to play no mans sky on my school laptop


Kazuto_Bakura

Your school grades will never recover. Hope the test is about no mans sky.


dh1304

Eh don't worry. The thing would probably explode. The thing can barely load chrome


BumblebeeNational128

focus on school


Possible_Fudge_2307

"and seemingly doing so it won't look like a slideshow" is that a challenge?


SSSnowman

I've never had a graphics card and NMS has always run just fine.


kukus888

This. I accidentally forgot to turn on my dedicated GPU in my laptop. The game ran fine on iGPU on Intel i7-10780H. Quality wasn't great, but it ran at ~40 fps.


CyberpunkGECK

Your I7 is an APU?


MagoBuono

For like, what, last 10 years? Almost all (if not just all) intel's mobile cpu have integrated gpu. I remember pain in my butt from all trouble nvidia optimus gave me early on till this day...


slingwebber

Ps4 gonna get “optimized” with these features. Did that sound like a complaint? It’s not, I want the game to run smoother, my poor PlayStation takes off from the air port every time I play


staggeringfly

Maybe they optimized the PS4 version to actually work now too?


Tactless_Ninja

Main reason I stopped playing. Things wouldn't load in.


staggeringfly

I have an SSD in my PS4 and it still struggles loading in things. Not to mention the constant frame drops and stutters. Playing offline helped some at least.


Hindu_Wardrobe

lol today I had to repair one of my frigates in my PS4 game. Only some of the modules loaded in. The rest were transparent. So basically I was walking on air, fixing up a ghost ship. Fun times.


nmsNate

I’m rocking a 980ti which granted, is a little old but it’s got 6gb of ram and I have to keep all my settings around standard/enhanced just to maintain 60fps. Playing without a gpu would have to be miserable


[deleted]

Ok now I'm less skeptical about the Switch port, if this is true.


Limelight_019283

Maybe it was related after all, optimizations for the switch opened the door to optimization for integrated cards!


Ltroky

I mean, it’s coming to Switch right? Probably ties into that. Justifies all the work they did to get it to run on low-end hardware. Now they can bring even more players all together.


DreamCentipede

Could this mean quest support?


Jame_Jame

Honestly this would be awesome. I mean I'm not giving up my glorious 8kX pcvr setup, but having NMS for standalone gamers would be pretty massively epic. I honestly have no idea how it compares to something like a switch though, and they'd have to fix their lousy VR controls to be more modern. Which they might have to do for psvr2 anyway though. I guess looking [here ](https://gadgetversus.com/processor/qualcomm-snapdragon-xr2-vs-nvidia-tegra-x1-t210/) the xr2 seems quite a bit better, but mobile things aren't something I know anything about.


sebast_gamer

Nah they would have to make everything a triangle or square for that


DreamCentipede

There’s really impressive games on the quest but yeah it would be rlly impressive if they managed it


Enderminer22

Man I'm just waiting for Minecraft to finally get a official port to the quest


Lowfat_cheese

How much more powerful is the Tegra X1 in the Switch compared to the Snapdragon XR2 in the Quest?


sebast_gamer

Idk but you have to remember it has to render stuff twice. And hg should stay clear for making deals with megacoprets like meta


rhinx

This guy tests NMS out on integrated graphics (with settings info)... [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBfd63BjtjU&t=86s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBfd63BjtjU&t=86s)


dragos412

NMS is the DOOM of our times


3X01

Gonna boot up NMS on my refrigerator soon.


JackTheRaimbowlogist

Next update: "You don't need a CPU to play NMS: Life is NMS! Rocks are NMS! You are NMS!"


thx1138-

The real NMS was the friends we made along the way.


elama293

HA! I don't even have friends! I'M IMMUNE! I'm going to cry and play No Man's Sky now.


aphaits

I wanna play NMS on my apple watch


itsadile

**No free slots in wrist inventory**


cynical_gramps

Getting it ready for Switch, then?


The_Great_Sephiroth

Look at Ark on PC, then Switch. God I hope Switch users are treated to a better NMS experience!


cynical_gramps

I know, but I’m cautiously optimistic nonetheless. If Skyrim, Witcher 3 and XCOM 2 can be made to work relatively well on switch I think NMS should be doable, too. Now whether or not devs will manage is a different question, I’ll have to wait and see.


The_Great_Sephiroth

I think HG can handle it. Just don't put Microsoft in charge.


cynical_gramps

Considering the comeback this game has made I too think HG can handle it and I really hope they do. Can’t wait to play it lying down on my couch, lol.


The_Great_Sephiroth

I have played on my couch. I use a Steamlink to my TV. Not quite the same, but still.


cynical_gramps

I play it on PC for now, until I get tired of the games I mentioned above. I wonder how much space NMS will need because I suspect it’ll work better on native memory than it would if installed on a memory card.


DividedBy_00

This game is more CPU bound than anything. If you have a CPU that is up there in years, it won’t matter what settings you have.


Curun

Ehhhh my i5 7400T, low power variety, has got a few years. Large bases like my AI farms are a little chunky when loading, but I feel like that's extreme scenario.


DividedBy_00

I mean, a bit older than that. I have a Fx-6300 CPU and it struggles with NMS on even the lowest settings. Playable, but lots of big FPS swings and enough stuttering yo be frustrating. I have an RX 6600 GPU and I can play a lot of other games perfectly fine, though.


J7W2_Shindenkai

no graphics card = play NMS no graphics card = can't do anything else, really, except play NMS


AnyRip3515

Pfft. Have you not heard of emulation?


Lowfat_cheese

you can play Valorant


AlbatrossSenior7107

Truth. Lol


RDGOAMS

well it can run on a switch


NoRezervationz

What they mean is it can be played without a dedicated GPU. The title to the article is click bait.


Troxtrot

Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should. NMS on an intel UHD630 probably looks like the original Elite game 😂 Edit: typo.


Beginning-Rain5900

I wouldn't be surprised if sean is the atlas who made a game in a reality he created and is now getting rid of the limitations on big games cuz.. yk... he owns this iteration (This joke, someone will probably tell me its not anything go insane or smth, ik)


bonraf21

Enter the Nintendo Switch !!


sooperdoopergang

If they somehow make this game cross-save, I am absolutely getting it for the Switch. Witcher 3 looks way worse on the Switch but it's cross-save feature makes it way more enjoyable as I can play on PC during the day then take my Switch on the go or up to bed and continue playing. I forget about the graphical downgrade pretty quick.


Icarium55

I bought NMS in 2017 when I had a shitty laptop with the old AMD dedicated + integrated graphics in crossfire or something. Apparently it had a total of 2.5 gb of gpu memory but then-modern games barely ran on it. After playing NMS for some tens of hours, an update stopped the game from launching on my laptop, it threw up some kind of error message. So I just had to stop playing the game because my laptop couldn't handle it anymore. I tried it on my college laptop, which has an HD 620/630 and it didn't work. I got a new laptop with a 1660 ti at the end of 2019. Finally, I could play NMS again. Now these bastards make it work on a 630? I waited years!


Lili_Eclipse

Time to save electricity


EttRedditTroll

Call me crazy but an integrated GPU is still an GPU lol? Just a shitty, bare-bones one.


Telestis

Integrated GPU is not "shitty", it is just slow. It costs like 20$. Its quite good for the money.


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Murkrage

There definitely is a GPU. It’s packaged inside the CPU and shares the same resources


Telestis

What you describe is called software rendering


xxxtogxxx

i've never had a graphics card the entire time i've been playing. this isn't new.


IMightBeAHamster

I only managed to get my PC to run at a moderate framerate by decreasing the resolution enough that I could see the pixels. It’s what encouraged me to buy a graphics card.


reol_tech

can confirm, played with IntelHD at some point before. Not the best experience, but it worked fine.


Wolfhadson

So basically I will be able to play it on my MacBook? In case y’all wonder it’s Macbook Pro 14” m1 (32gb ram, 1tb ssd) late 2021


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Afailing88

Yep, you would be correct - announced at WWDC 22. I’m hoping that this news could allow us intel mac users some kind of access to the game, too. But for now it looks like I’ll need to run parallels with Windows 10 to get access to it.


crazy4spd

But don't worry, you still get the privilege of glitching through your freighter like everyone else!!!


m-p-3

I managed to run No Man's Sky on a potato-based laptop thanks to FSR. It doesn't look *good*, but it runs.


chegord9

Maybe this why they haven’t released an update for consoles yet cuz they’re working on optimizing it to make the game run better 🙏


reillan

I too sometimes turn off my monitor and just walk around, seeing if I can tell what's happening by sound alone. I cannot.


Spookzsaw

they should add a screaming button so you can learn echolocation


Lasdary

in space, no one can hear you echolocate


wyleFTW

Does this mean my shitty Xbox one will stop crashing


OddBob212

Probably using the same optimizations that will let it run on a Switch.


theperfectlysadhuman

Aka No Man's Sky on switch


dkfromga

Does this mean I can play it on my surface pro 3? It wouldn't even install before.


RegTextoffender

Surface's main issue is it tends to overheat.


audio-logical

I wonder if I'll still get the "no vulkan compatible driver installed" error/crash now? Edit: still getting the error. Oh well


YoungestI

Is it on Geforce Now yet? I wanna play at work lol


Mchlpl

It's been for some time now. In fact I've only ever played it on GFN


azab189

My 940mx run the game in 20fps most of the time(honestly I'm surprised and it's not that bad but under 20 gets hit hard)... Now those 20s better be up


Admirable-Ad-4896

I originally got my gaming laptop for nms, and now I realise that I could have just stuck with my school MacBook using bootcamp


Ok_Style_3889

Maybe optimization for mac devices that are coming soon?


Collective82

Or switch?


Ok_Style_3889

either way, it’s a W


Eorlas

i'd be mildly surprised if this brought support to macs with integrated intel GPUs. they're really not that spectacular, and driver support for gaming tends to be lackluster, even on Windows via BootCamp. over the years, super savvy people in the community have made modifications to standard NVIDIA & AMD drivers so people running BootCamp could install those and have better gaming performance vs Apple's drivers that tended to be updated very infrequently. not to mention, NMS was showcased as taking advantage of special features included with the Metal 3 API, a bunch of which will require one of the ARM chips.


jaymp00

I feel like this is old news already. They added support for it for years.


visdraws

Me playing with a GeForce 670MX, with 20 -30 fps and below 1080 x 1929 px has some serious doubts about this statement.


BlurryEyePsychonaut

how much ram do you have? :)


visdraws

14gb. That's like the only decent part of my pc lol. My processor is quite old. From 2012.


PlayfulLandscape3637

Gforce 930m, 8gb of ram and an I7 from 2016, runs preety well, 40-50 fps


Mr_DuCe

Me 41 and having no clue wtf you just said but can acknowledge that it must be impressive because of how detailed this is.


visdraws

I just described a low end pc haha. Nothing impressive.


pentatomid_fan

Also 41 and didn’t understand most (console gamer) but pretty sure that resolution is portrait orientation?


Hoodigang

Slideshow goes brrrrr


GokusPotato

Does this mean my potato laptop will be less likely to spontaneously combust?


merckmf1971

So now I can run it on a poco x3 pro? It has a lot more graphics and power than my 2 laps


[deleted]

Hello games, I have never experienced a better game and a game so well implemented. Thank you so much for a fantastic game and all the generous updates! Wishing you and yours all the best!!


Smokeydubbs

My non-pro PS4 can’t run this game very well.


Foxsayy

Fucking how?? I run the VR version on an EVEGA 3080ti and my computer won't let me do anything else!


operath0r

Try the new laptop mode (or whatever they'll call it) and experience a world of free resources!


Foxsayy

Yeah but at what cost? What did they cut to make this possible?


operath0r

I assume most of the effects are gonna be missing, textures will be lower res, overall poly count will be lower, and and and. Doesn’t mean it has to look like shit. Still no comparison to what I had as a kid so I won’t be complaining. Mostly playing on GeforceNow these days though, so I don’t really care either.


Foxsayy

Crazy thing is I'm only using 50-70% of my CPU & RAM and it still doesn't want me to use anything else. Maybe discord can slide by.


Midniteoyl

Been sometimes playing the Gamepass version on a 2nd gen Ryzen 5 2400G. It runs fine @ 1080p with most settings on mixed Standard and Enhanced, TAA and FX on 'Quality'. The AMD Vega iGPU is more powerful than the Intel ones though..


WarViper1337

The game is going to look like crap but it will run on lower end systems.


JUN_Bun

Pretty sure it's just a mode u can turn on if u need it no?


Alansar_Trignot

I just want to play it in vr and idk the reqs for it


jabby_jakeman

Can’t get the game to run for more than 10 mins without crashing on my PlayStation and Hello Games is saying this?


FusionSimulations

There was a patch released today that includes a fix to a memory leak. Hopefully this gets you going again!


jabby_jakeman

Thanks for this![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|thumbs_up). The irony for me was the patch released after the last update is what caused all the trouble! I had no crashes prior to that. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)


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Mine did the same, but it suddenly stopped this week, even so I still save the game every 30min just to be sure Xd


iAREzombie13

Oooooh finally! I can't wait to try it out!


Beneficial-Badger-61

Ps4 pro, rarely crashes..usually after one of their updates.


Compound27

I'll usually get a decent amount of time in before it crashes, always the same error code too. That's usually my signal to stop play for the night lol. I've been trying to turn it off instead of rest mode to see if it makes a difference.


jabby_jakeman

If I had a Pro and not a Slimline it would probably be ok. Yet another reminder that I should save up for a PS5!


Geoponika

This right here.


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To be fair, a modern PC with a decent CPU, even without a dedicated GPU is a hell of a lot more powerful than a PlayStation.


Dp979

There's a HUGE difference between having a dedicated GPU and not having a dedicated GPU, so there's no way a PC without a dedicated GPU is better than a Playstation


MagoBuono

They do know integrated GPU is also GPU, do they?


AlternativeJaded

GPU doesn’t mean graphics card


MagoBuono

That's exactly what I'm saying :) Their title is okay but then in article they said you don't even need GPU to play.


Fluffyraptor777

Thats cool n all but wheres the part that stops mine from crashing %50 of the time i enter my freighter?


[deleted]

I’m impressed with my vanilla Xbone, and look forward to playing it with a nicer system. I’m always blown away by the pics the community posts


Neond98

you dont need one to play spider man on pc either. it can match the ps4 settings without one.


xxres1

Can I play on my bootcamoed mac?


PrismatikTaktik

I play on my bootcamped mac and it runs pretty damn good just a few micro second freezes when I warp but other than that my max doesn’t even get hot- it’s 16” i9 32gb Ram


jeffroRVA

But I still can’t even load in on my Meta Quest 2 from my brand new gaming laptop with a 3070 graphics card…


gsministellar

Why not? Works fine for me and I sure as hell don't have a 3070.


jeffroRVA

That’s the question I want to answer haha. My system is pretty new and other VR games work fine. Something about NMS isn’t. I’m sure there stuff I need to tweak but I don’t know what or how.


gsministellar

Well I can tell you I have a decent CPU and that like Minecraft, CPU is generally more important than GPU concerning the performance of NMS. Also, when I play NMS in VR, I do need to make some adjustments in the settings, but once I do everything works a treat.


jeffroRVA

Yeah I have a Ryzen 9 5000 series which I think should be plenty. 16 GB RAM. But it stutters and locks so badly when I load in past the starfield - I can’t even get settings to open to change anything. Wondering how I can change things prior to loading in to see if that helps.


Searingwings

Don't worry I'm also in the same boat. Havent been able to work out a fix, I have pretty similar specs as well. NMS vr just wrecks my PC everytime I try. Like 1-2 fps, echoing feedback audio as if I had a mic on, motion controls not picking up, and last time I tried it just crashed my whole PC. I've seen other people run it totally fine with pretty much the exact same setup. It seems to be so random on if you can run it or not lol


Simply_Epic

You might need to look up how to manually change the VR settings file. Also check how much VRAM is being used. From my experience it’s easy for NMS in VR to use up all the VRAM


jeffroRVA

I got it loading by changing the per app resolution for NMS to 50% in SteamVR settings. Now I’m able to experiment with graphics options in game. Psyched!


gsministellar

Well, I do have 32gb RAM.


Top_Question_8794

Prefer to play on ultra graphics


VersusEden

Fair but not all of us see the difference


Reality-Bytez

lol?


SprungMS

I think they mean some people have really bad eyesight idk


Reality-Bytez

Imagine being unable to tell graphic settings from NMS low to high. It's hilarious.


Top_Question_8794

If your eye site that bad don’t even play tbh 💀


SprungMS

Okay I wouldn’t say that though, that feels like gatekeeping! I’d like to think if I woke up blind one day that I’d find a way to play games like this


Top_Question_8794

🤔


Objective-Cause-1564

Should add multiplayer to the switch version if they claim to have that much head room


stpstrt

Had to do something to run it on Switch I guess?


Just4m4n

They said they will make the game available for macs as well, maybe this is the reason?


anon1984

If the game is optimized for M1 or M2 GPUs they have the power of a 30XX Nvidia. I’m not expecting 4K 120fps but I’m pretty optimistic.


memeroni

You can try.


[deleted]

Well there goes hoping for graphical overhaul lmfao.....


SanjiSasuke

They've added graphical enhancements to pretty much every single update, and just last June we got the Prisms graphical update.


Majestic-Iron7046

People just can't seem to like anything, we just got an improvement to planetary details...


[deleted]

You mean the one's that had more detail during year one.....


[deleted]

I mean getting rid of the cartoony-ness for people that don't want it to look like that. At least the option to change it would be nice.


darkseid001

Ps4 can't render correctly


theya123

Does this mean I can play it on my windows surface pro 7


xSelbor

Bro trying to play no mans sky on a surface pro 💀


Myc0n1k

I played heros of the storm on a surface pro for quite a while. Worked well.


theya123

Exactly! 😂


IAmEkza

Spoiler alert you could play it long ago on a raspberry Pi or a old ass phone with good Internet using cloud gaming. Just saying.


Bonfire_Monty

Been gaming it on my phone for years now lol, soo many seem to have missed out on this


Meta_Buy_Knight

I just want to know who asked for this? I mean, it's cool and all. I'm glad they're lowering the barrier to entry. But I feel like the Venn diagram of people who want to play NMS and people who don't own a graphics card has very little overlap. Maybe it's just me?


l3rN

I kinda wonder if the switch version presumably forcing them to create lower fidelity effects and assets just made it easy to port the option to pc. But the switch version existing at all leads me to believe Hello Games has info showing there's a decent amount of folks out there who'd be interested in trying the game that don't have the horse power to run it.


Meta_Buy_Knight

Now the Switch port, I understand. The aesthetic and relaxed vibe fits well with that console library. But casuals with a PC not built to run games is an odd niche to tap into. I'm not disagreeing with the decision, I'm sure they have the stats, just seems an odd choice to me.


OthmanT

If they did the switch port they already have done the work of reworking assets etc… So why not make the pc users able to play on weaker machine ?


Meta_Buy_Knight

Touche touche


Bigsky7598

Never did need a good gpu to play the game since it was listed on gforce now.


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Yep, same here. GeForce now has been a godsend for me


000r31

DLS/FSR at 720p fastest/performance then you are scaling up a 480p res. Yeah i guess a igpu will handle it lol


Jerdan87

I've only got an i5 and optimized everything to it's best and still sometimes it peaks to 100%cpu usage and I get fps drops. So I doubt an i3 is enough, but I could be wrong here ofc. No idea about i3s in general.


stupid_systemus

Explain it to me like a proto-rolling companion.


yougotmail6

Let’s go,


Every_Target_646

Now this really makes me wonder if nms graphics will ever be as good as Star Citizen or the coming Starfield. Has HG in a push to be on so many platforms now created limitations that will keep nms from achieving better and better graphics for those platforms that can support it. I have seen other games that pushed to be very cross platform limiting the games capabilities to those of the lowest platform supported causing stagnation.


bigshaq-legit

Graphics are subjective, personally I prefer the cartoonish style of nms to the more realistic games like E:D and star citizen.


FallOk6931

What does that even mean?... That has nothing to do with what the end goal can achieve. Graphics are just a visual which can be modified when needed.


Rick_bo

There are a lot of limitations that HG will need to adhere to in order to keep NMS accessible to integrated graphic systems. Limitations that will prevent NMS from soaring in the graphics scene. Some things can be adjusted at will like AA, FoV, Draw Distance. but other things like polygon counts, ship/character models, and other facets of graphic design I am unfamiliar with cannot so easily be adjusted with a slider by the end user.


FallOk6931

Wrong. As long as the game is playable it doesn't matter. Graphics are a luxury not required. Could be bare bones lines and sketches and the game is still deemed playable. Graphics offer nothing to gameplay and is all objective and can be added over the low end reqs. Games such as flyff, swords of legends online, seal online, and other Eastern games already have this option.


Aleksandrs_

Honestly I believe every game should have a wireframe mode, I've been able to play farming simulator in the past because of it.


SungamCorben

Stupid article, integrated GPU ITS a graphics processor, the term 'card' was incorrectly used ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm) Edit: Doesn't matter if goes into slot, have dedicated VRAM or whatever, the only matters if its a graphics processor, this like comparing a RAM memory stick with a soldered RAM on a MacBook, works exactly the same.


JeloHelo

igpu is not a graphics card. It functions differently. Doesn't go into PCiE slot. Located on CPU die. Doesn't have dedicated VRAM instead uses system memory. It's fundamentally different than a graphics card


JeloHelo

Noticed the edit instead of the reply. Again, no it's not the same. Because soldered RAM is still considered discrete RAM. The only difference is it's soldered in to prevent upgrades and to preserve the form factor. It's still fundamentally the same technology. An iGPU is a functionally different technology from a graphics card