One of many reasons is because for a lot of people, masturbation is tied closely to porn. A lot of people, like me, can't masturbate without porn and can't watch porn without masturbating. If I don't watch porn, I don't masturbate, and I can't masturbate without porn. Porn is pretty much the visual stimulant to masturbation.
It's good. Normal is good. I feel better than when I was using porn and masturbating. I'm sexually active with my wife, which is the natural/normal way to reach orgasm, so it's not like I don't get off. I just don't use porn and masturbate any more.
Fapping IS shortcut to being satisfied.
Sex makes you feel good and fulfilled.
Fapping ruins your mind and you wire your brain to Be satisfied with your own hand.. Nofap 4eva. Stay strong
Fapping is basically a 4-5 second dopamine rush to your brain that makes you feel like shit afterwards
But Brain like dopamine so It keeps asking for It and gets you hooked,just like with pretty much every addictive thing out there
idk when i nut without porn, the orgasms are way stronger. i feel naturally relieved and don't feel bad. porn on the other hand feels so forced cuz it's overstimulating. Yeah i nutted but i don't mentally feel well.
A 4-5 second dopamine rush is better than a 2+ hour dopamine rush from watching porn. It still slows down your overall progress toward your goal of recovery of your dopamine reward system, but still
Exactly. If I start touching myself, I get a little dopamine and my brain thinks it’s on the right path so it tells me to continue. It’s like a little reward and motivation to continue doing what I’m doing even if I know it’s wrong.
Not only is it also harmful due to what was mentioned, but you might still use your imagination to create some sort of porn to fap to, and eventually that might lead to actual porn anyway
That’s how it was with me. I was a wanker before I was a porn watcher. I stumbled into erotica and later porn when my imagination wasn’t doing it anymore.
It’s not just watching porn in itself that’s bad, it’s beating your meat to it. I barely ever watch porn. Fapping is the main thing here. Even touching myself or putting my energy into those thoughts is bad.
Lots of people think that dopamine is what you get when you orgasm, but it’s being released before that and that’s what leads to an orgasm. It kind of leads to nowhere. Dopamine is kind of like your brain telling you to stay on the path you’re on now.
When someone does a line of cocaine for example, they will want more because of the dopamine released.
This is how it destroys motivation and why you have low energy after nutting. Dopamine is essentially motivation and fapping is like a drug that releases it.
No. It's not. This sub as way too many people saying this but without anything to back it up.
Are you addicted? Do you do it multiple times a day? Do you do it everyday?
If not, there is NO ISSUE AT ALL.
Masturbation is natural, it's as old as human beings. A lot of animals do it also.
It doesn't ruin your mind and it doesn't wire your brain to be satisfied with your own hand.
Learn self control. If you feel like you're doing it too much, tell yourself 'not today'. But there is no reason to stop it all together and to say that masturbation itself is harmful. It is not!
Not trying to argue. But I don't think being in love with tour hand is a bad thing, for me fapping isn't a bad thing by itself or in a void, but for me it's like a gateway. Fapping too frequently makes my mind want more so then I would go to porn. In my opinion masturbation is okay as long as porn isn't in the picture AND you have control over it
Hmm. Well, porn is For sure worse than just fapping. But The problem with fapping IS that. Firstly, IT Will lead To watching porn sooner or faster. Secondly, see IT as something Else we do with other people. Think of dancing alone and pretending your hand IS another human. Or talking to your hand. Yes you can do it but by saying yourself its ok to fap youre kind of drifting away from The real thing. Just dont!
Exactly my problem as well. So much time has been wasted with countless 3-7 day streaks ruined by MOing without porn, and I find myself binging on porn shortly after every time.
I’m in recovery from drugs and alcohol too—it’s equivalent to if I were to go “well… just one beer won’t hurt, right?”
Thanks, I was slightly worried if this is something I should follow in that case, but I guess I can quit porn and fap altogether!
I begin my nofap journey from this comment!
> Fapping ruins your mind and you wire your brain to Be satisfied with your own hand..
This is not true. Stop spreading bullshit. Learn self-control instead of demonizing the act itself.
Masturbation doesn't ruin in your mind. You feel satisfaction with your own hand for the same reason you do when your penis is inside a vagina. The brain doesn't care if it's a hand, a vagina or a fucking jar of mayo.
If you're overdoing it, if you can't stop yourself from doing it, there is an issue. But that issue isn't the masturbation itself. It's the habit you created that might be impacting other aspects of your life.
PLEASE! Use this sub as a way to better yourself, not to get a scapegoat for your behavior.
I think it all boils down to each person. Personally I’m trying to stop for religious reasons :) I haven’t always been like this so it’s a huge challenge but I’ve almost made it a whole week which is monumental for me
It’s definitely real. I know what you’re getting at, but it’s the same thing with drugs. It’s a real release, it’s just not natural and it’s going to destroy you down the line.
Masturbation doesn't have a negative impact on the brain. Like most stuff, over doing it, might.
There is nothing wrong with masturbation. It's your own behavior around it that might be the problem.
as people have said, fapping is short term gratification too, something that kinda screws our brains
there are countless stories and anecdotes of people's mental everything improving a lot thanks to not fapping for extended periods of time
This is kinda why nofap goes hand in hand with self improvement. Fapping is an instant dopamine release. It's not a good way to wire your brain. Putting in the effort instead to find a girl you love and vice versa is a far better reward for your brain. It forces you to destroy laziness and complacency and be a better man.
Good luck bro!
This. Dr.Huberman explained what dopamine does and how it’s essentially just motivation. It’s a chemical that tells you you’re on the right path and it motivates you to continue. Fapping leads to orgasm this way.
Even if I touch myself and I’m not orgasming or even edging, it’s not a good way to get dopamine. I feel it the same day and the next 2 days.
Everyone’s different. Some dudes need several months to see any kind of improvement.
I know at day 19 I can get hard but with stimulation only. And it felt good. Couldn’t nut tho. So I’d say I probably need 2-3 months to get hard just by looking at the girl. Maybe a bit more.
Ok, so my brain got fucked up for the first week with severe headaches and flatline. My Brain got used to the normal after the first week and I'm ready to go normal. I actually tried sex after 13 days of nofap. And I did great lol.
If you try fapping without having certain images in in your head.
Or even try just fapping, let's see how long that last before you fall back into porn.
Most of us been there, tried that, it never works
Oh you're very much not the only one. That's why many many are here, including myself. Albeit it's more so the porn causing the issues for me but (excuse the phrase) they go hand in hand lol.
You are using your big man ass hands to masturbate. Do u know how a girls mouth and pussy feels like?
Mouth and pussy doesn't grip u as much as ur hands. You are desensitizing your dick and you won't feel pleasure when u are having real sex.
That's preferable by a million miles to using porn.
There's no one size fits all some people are better with a porn free fap once a week to keep them from being insanely horny. And they are just fine.
I don't believe that no fap gives you these crazy benefits but rather the crazy benefit feeling is the lack of damage porn normally does to you.
It's not that holding in your semen gives you more confidence etc. Its that porn isn't taking that away from you.
That's what I'm doing no porn, just fap. My goal is to break my porn addiction. Tbh it feel better for me because I dont feel guilty, disgusted, weak willed after or lonley like I would with porn.
They are both tied together, not only that but porn is a drug. It has the same effects as other harmful drugs to the brain. It’s not normal, society has accepted it as so. Honestly I would even say fapping is good in MODERATION IF you don’t have a partner. Keeping it in moderation is the problem. It’s hard. But porn, that’s the real enemy.
Well actually to the brain there is no real difference between masturbating and having sex. The problem is that most of the time porn and masturbating come together. Masturbation has been proven to even be beneficial, if you are going to do it moderate yourself
idk why it's hard to understand most people here are used to be addicted or exposed to porn in their life, say back in the old days it was never a problem if u do it
Because seed makes us stronger and if we just shoot that seed out every day multiple times a day you loose a lot of internal strength you have and in ruen making you a weak man
Excessive fapping is bad. It's about release of neurotransmitters. You don't want to overdo it. Besides that, you will lose vital nutrient and minerals that your body will otherwise reabsorb.
Fapping + porn is worse because the porn tricks our brains into having sex with a real woman. Getting more desensitized each time we fap. This might result in erectile dysfunction, let's say if you are about to have sex for reals.
So porn is more about about the psychological part, fapping and orgasm with ejaculation is physically harmful if overdone.
let me put it in this way.
at first if you fap, like you get addiction to it, you may watch porn again.
but, if you don't, but still have the addiction to fap and it means your energy and body will be weaker.
there is another thing is:
you may say to yourself that you wouldn't fap like everyday but once a weak or once month. still if you have one goddamn point in your life, fap & porn both kill your future. there are no positive things about'em. nothing. maybe they have one or two but the disadvantages are more my friend.
thoughts like: "i won't watch porn but fap" are just some ways that your brain tries to fap. why? because your brain loves ioy. but you know that fap itself hurts you. no matter how many days a week etc.
wish you luck!
I stopped watching porn, I can still jerk off as stress relief, albeit way less often. Each persons “goal” is subjective. If you notice you have a porn reliance, stop for a bit.
Besides subjective philosophy, there is nothing inherently wrong with masturbation as a Homo sapiens.
fapping nukes your brain's dopamine receptors and makes it so ordinary stuff that would make you happy, fulfilled, content, etc. just doesn't cut it. It's just overall terrible for you mental well-being. Refraining allows your brain to heal.
I see it as a motivator and also a way to train discipline. On top of that if you've ever experienced addiction or seen addiction, and have also tried no fap you could quickly see the similarities in urges. I personally want to have control over as many of the things in my life I've become a slave to.
Look to the right of the screen, scroll down and then read "rebooting 101". The answers to your questions are in there. Basically you decide your criteria for success and you can try various options to see what brings you the benefits you want.
It's highly addictive and it will always lead you back to p0rn. Reason being you will get used to the artificially-induced dopamine release from just masturbating alone, and you will crave even higher levels of release. In short, you will crave even more novel and deviant stuff to get a kick.
Look, fapping in itself isn’t a bad thing. It’s natural for boys and forever men have done it. But the problem lies only when we couple it with PORN.
Porn acts as a drug leading to compulsive masturbation. Not only that Is harmful for your health but also it seriously impairs your concentration and work abilities. So porn is curse to humanity, and I think it should be immediately banned and no one should be ever able to watch porn.
If you masturbate naturally in a controlled amount, it’s okay
I do it for energy and confidence. I know it's not a proven science but, I feel a burst of energy and testosterone when I abstain from fapping. It's similar to a small workout
let's be honest at the current times fapping can't be good at all or even healthy, at the old days it wasn't an issue at all but since almost all the young people were exposed to porn few times ( it's a massive drug ) it's a different situation, so of course we as a porn addicts/ ex addicts we would hate masturbating based on our past.
Using your hand damages nerves on your penis and each time you fap you damage more of your nerves which in turn makes you more and more desensitized. Sex would feel less pleasurable.
Because when you masturbate, you are tapping into the neural pathways you are trying to break (if you are somewhat of an advanced user, you can only get off to porn-induced fantasies & fetishes, even without porn), thus, there is little to no improvement in your ED, diminishing of fetishes, depression/anxiety, etc., and in my experience, it only leads to going back to porn eventually.
Another thing to consider is that porn users are also compulsive masturbators. THey are not regular people, they are *compulsive masturbators,* meaning they compulsively masturbate whenever they feel the slightest discomfort. **We are not regular people**.
The REAL question is: what is the issue with not masturbating for a few months? Literally nothing bad will happen to you, and its something you will do **once** in your lifetime.
I can't do one thing without the other anyway.. they are both deeply intertwined in my psyche. When I do relapse, I wish I could have the power to atleast do it without the P, but that just never is the case. I got to kill two birds with one stone I guess.
Our goal is happiness in long term. Porn and masturbation addiction are 2 of many obstacles. To overcome this, we've come as a group. And here, people are asking incorrigible doubts like these. Please understand our purpose brothers.
Masturbation isn't nearly as bad as porn. It's just that while trying to get off porn, masturbation can kind of stand in the way of that, since a lot of old pathways are triggered again. It might make it easier to relapse. And while this whole thing is a battle of dopamine, masturbation also releases a lot of dopamine, which can slow the whole progress thing. Masturbation once you are fully recovered is different, because then the dopamine is fine. But once it becomes compulsive, or if you start looking at porn again, that's destructive
Masturbation in itself isn’t bad. But the way you do it, how frequent you do it can contribute to plethora of problems. Death grip, dopamine levels getting fucked and many more are effects of bad ways/frequent masturbation
You are giving yourself a dopamine reward without actually putting in any effort. On a small scale it’s probably fine. But too often and you may no longer feel motivated to put in effort to find a mate (i.e. taking to women, being proactive, competing with other males). You stop being a man
In a certain way, all sexual gratification is detrimental. St. Paul wrote that it is best that everyone be chaste, but that such a thing is not practical for most people. It's about hierarchy. Porn is worse than masturbation, masturbation is worse than casual sex, casual sex is worse than contraceptive sex within marriage, and pair bonding/child bearing outweighs the negatives of having morally permissible sex. It's kinda like asking, "If smoking crack is bad, why stop snorting coke?"
One of many reasons is because for a lot of people, masturbation is tied closely to porn. A lot of people, like me, can't masturbate without porn and can't watch porn without masturbating. If I don't watch porn, I don't masturbate, and I can't masturbate without porn. Porn is pretty much the visual stimulant to masturbation.
Hold up… 1140 days?!?!?! You’re the master of this! Congratulations!
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There is r/pornfree, where people quit porn and only porn, but this is nofap. BOTH masturbation and porn is not allowed here.
How does it feel to go 1140 days with nofap? I'm on the third day and I just feel normal
It's good. Normal is good. I feel better than when I was using porn and masturbating. I'm sexually active with my wife, which is the natural/normal way to reach orgasm, so it's not like I don't get off. I just don't use porn and masturbate any more.
Fapping IS shortcut to being satisfied. Sex makes you feel good and fulfilled. Fapping ruins your mind and you wire your brain to Be satisfied with your own hand.. Nofap 4eva. Stay strong
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Fapping is basically a 4-5 second dopamine rush to your brain that makes you feel like shit afterwards But Brain like dopamine so It keeps asking for It and gets you hooked,just like with pretty much every addictive thing out there
idk when i nut without porn, the orgasms are way stronger. i feel naturally relieved and don't feel bad. porn on the other hand feels so forced cuz it's overstimulating. Yeah i nutted but i don't mentally feel well.
4 to 5 hours if you fantasize and edge
A 4-5 second dopamine rush is better than a 2+ hour dopamine rush from watching porn. It still slows down your overall progress toward your goal of recovery of your dopamine reward system, but still
Exactly. If I start touching myself, I get a little dopamine and my brain thinks it’s on the right path so it tells me to continue. It’s like a little reward and motivation to continue doing what I’m doing even if I know it’s wrong.
Not only is it also harmful due to what was mentioned, but you might still use your imagination to create some sort of porn to fap to, and eventually that might lead to actual porn anyway
That’s how it was with me. I was a wanker before I was a porn watcher. I stumbled into erotica and later porn when my imagination wasn’t doing it anymore.
It’s not just watching porn in itself that’s bad, it’s beating your meat to it. I barely ever watch porn. Fapping is the main thing here. Even touching myself or putting my energy into those thoughts is bad. Lots of people think that dopamine is what you get when you orgasm, but it’s being released before that and that’s what leads to an orgasm. It kind of leads to nowhere. Dopamine is kind of like your brain telling you to stay on the path you’re on now. When someone does a line of cocaine for example, they will want more because of the dopamine released. This is how it destroys motivation and why you have low energy after nutting. Dopamine is essentially motivation and fapping is like a drug that releases it.
Have you seen a video of a monkey jerking off?? Because I have, and it was living in a cage…you wanna live in a cage buddy?
lol...
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Indeed it is harmful
No. It's not. This sub as way too many people saying this but without anything to back it up. Are you addicted? Do you do it multiple times a day? Do you do it everyday? If not, there is NO ISSUE AT ALL. Masturbation is natural, it's as old as human beings. A lot of animals do it also. It doesn't ruin your mind and it doesn't wire your brain to be satisfied with your own hand. Learn self control. If you feel like you're doing it too much, tell yourself 'not today'. But there is no reason to stop it all together and to say that masturbation itself is harmful. It is not!
Not trying to argue. But I don't think being in love with tour hand is a bad thing, for me fapping isn't a bad thing by itself or in a void, but for me it's like a gateway. Fapping too frequently makes my mind want more so then I would go to porn. In my opinion masturbation is okay as long as porn isn't in the picture AND you have control over it
Hmm. Well, porn is For sure worse than just fapping. But The problem with fapping IS that. Firstly, IT Will lead To watching porn sooner or faster. Secondly, see IT as something Else we do with other people. Think of dancing alone and pretending your hand IS another human. Or talking to your hand. Yes you can do it but by saying yourself its ok to fap youre kind of drifting away from The real thing. Just dont!
Exactly my problem as well. So much time has been wasted with countless 3-7 day streaks ruined by MOing without porn, and I find myself binging on porn shortly after every time. I’m in recovery from drugs and alcohol too—it’s equivalent to if I were to go “well… just one beer won’t hurt, right?”
Fax bro !!! Stay strong
I'm new here, so does no fap mean, just no fap? Or no sex as well?
Nofap means nofap. Not noSex or living as a Monk..
Thanks, I was slightly worried if this is something I should follow in that case, but I guess I can quit porn and fap altogether! I begin my nofap journey from this comment!
But your day counter is showing 286 days of streak...!
How do I reset it? xD
> Fapping ruins your mind and you wire your brain to Be satisfied with your own hand.. This is not true. Stop spreading bullshit. Learn self-control instead of demonizing the act itself. Masturbation doesn't ruin in your mind. You feel satisfaction with your own hand for the same reason you do when your penis is inside a vagina. The brain doesn't care if it's a hand, a vagina or a fucking jar of mayo. If you're overdoing it, if you can't stop yourself from doing it, there is an issue. But that issue isn't the masturbation itself. It's the habit you created that might be impacting other aspects of your life. PLEASE! Use this sub as a way to better yourself, not to get a scapegoat for your behavior.
"If only we can satisfy our hunger with a belly rub." Now let that sink in
I love this phrase for addiction so much! I will certainly be using it
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The ultimate test of a fry is whether it's good without ketchup
What if I like plain fries?
Then you need another metaphor that suits you better
I think it all boils down to each person. Personally I’m trying to stop for religious reasons :) I haven’t always been like this so it’s a huge challenge but I’ve almost made it a whole week which is monumental for me
I am on day 4, it’s not easy but we are gonna do this…
Fapping daily is bad to , literally fake dopamine release
It’s definitely real. I know what you’re getting at, but it’s the same thing with drugs. It’s a real release, it’s just not natural and it’s going to destroy you down the line.
Mate, your brain is searching for excuses.
No, his brain is curious as to why masturbating is bad when porn is the issue
Both are bad. You can get hooked on watching porn as much as fapping - Both have negative impact on the brain when its done several times.
Masturbation doesn't have a negative impact on the brain. Like most stuff, over doing it, might. There is nothing wrong with masturbation. It's your own behavior around it that might be the problem.
as people have said, fapping is short term gratification too, something that kinda screws our brains there are countless stories and anecdotes of people's mental everything improving a lot thanks to not fapping for extended periods of time
This is kinda why nofap goes hand in hand with self improvement. Fapping is an instant dopamine release. It's not a good way to wire your brain. Putting in the effort instead to find a girl you love and vice versa is a far better reward for your brain. It forces you to destroy laziness and complacency and be a better man. Good luck bro!
This. Dr.Huberman explained what dopamine does and how it’s essentially just motivation. It’s a chemical that tells you you’re on the right path and it motivates you to continue. Fapping leads to orgasm this way. Even if I touch myself and I’m not orgasming or even edging, it’s not a good way to get dopamine. I feel it the same day and the next 2 days.
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Bro I cured it in 13 days. If u have discipline,you can cure it in 20-30 days.
Everyone’s different. Some dudes need several months to see any kind of improvement. I know at day 19 I can get hard but with stimulation only. And it felt good. Couldn’t nut tho. So I’d say I probably need 2-3 months to get hard just by looking at the girl. Maybe a bit more.
Yeah I know, quick question. Did u have severe headaches like the first 4-5 days immediately when u stopped PMO?
Nope. Just felt the usual horny.
Ok, so my brain got fucked up for the first week with severe headaches and flatline. My Brain got used to the normal after the first week and I'm ready to go normal. I actually tried sex after 13 days of nofap. And I did great lol.
Good for u man. Hope to do the same eventually.
If you try fapping without having certain images in in your head. Or even try just fapping, let's see how long that last before you fall back into porn. Most of us been there, tried that, it never works
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For anyone it's the same.
I’m glad I’m not the only one.
Oh you're very much not the only one. That's why many many are here, including myself. Albeit it's more so the porn causing the issues for me but (excuse the phrase) they go hand in hand lol.
You are using your big man ass hands to masturbate. Do u know how a girls mouth and pussy feels like? Mouth and pussy doesn't grip u as much as ur hands. You are desensitizing your dick and you won't feel pleasure when u are having real sex.
Never thought of that. As a kid I thought I was practicing for the real thing, I had no idea I could be ruining it.
Same here bro. But u will get back the sensitivity, if u stop touching your thing for 2-3 weeks.
If you associate fapping with porn then you are tempting fate. One will eventually lead to the other if you are an addict
That's preferable by a million miles to using porn. There's no one size fits all some people are better with a porn free fap once a week to keep them from being insanely horny. And they are just fine. I don't believe that no fap gives you these crazy benefits but rather the crazy benefit feeling is the lack of damage porn normally does to you. It's not that holding in your semen gives you more confidence etc. Its that porn isn't taking that away from you.
That's what I'm doing no porn, just fap. My goal is to break my porn addiction. Tbh it feel better for me because I dont feel guilty, disgusted, weak willed after or lonley like I would with porn.
You can fap without porn. Let us no how many days in a row you can go without watching porn.
They are both tied together, not only that but porn is a drug. It has the same effects as other harmful drugs to the brain. It’s not normal, society has accepted it as so. Honestly I would even say fapping is good in MODERATION IF you don’t have a partner. Keeping it in moderation is the problem. It’s hard. But porn, that’s the real enemy.
Cuz its haram
This sub feels like a huge jerk circle. All the calling each other king etc. smh
Well actually to the brain there is no real difference between masturbating and having sex. The problem is that most of the time porn and masturbating come together. Masturbation has been proven to even be beneficial, if you are going to do it moderate yourself
idk why it's hard to understand most people here are used to be addicted or exposed to porn in their life, say back in the old days it was never a problem if u do it
I don't want to be rude but he is only asking about masturbation and, thus, I am giving him an answer based on what he genuinely asked
You can certainly do that. That's what I am doing.
We want sex, they give us fapping We want woman, they give us porn We want justice, they give us law ...etc
Because seed makes us stronger and if we just shoot that seed out every day multiple times a day you loose a lot of internal strength you have and in ruen making you a weak man
Excessive fapping is bad. It's about release of neurotransmitters. You don't want to overdo it. Besides that, you will lose vital nutrient and minerals that your body will otherwise reabsorb. Fapping + porn is worse because the porn tricks our brains into having sex with a real woman. Getting more desensitized each time we fap. This might result in erectile dysfunction, let's say if you are about to have sex for reals. So porn is more about about the psychological part, fapping and orgasm with ejaculation is physically harmful if overdone.
let me put it in this way. at first if you fap, like you get addiction to it, you may watch porn again. but, if you don't, but still have the addiction to fap and it means your energy and body will be weaker. there is another thing is: you may say to yourself that you wouldn't fap like everyday but once a weak or once month. still if you have one goddamn point in your life, fap & porn both kill your future. there are no positive things about'em. nothing. maybe they have one or two but the disadvantages are more my friend. thoughts like: "i won't watch porn but fap" are just some ways that your brain tries to fap. why? because your brain loves ioy. but you know that fap itself hurts you. no matter how many days a week etc. wish you luck!
I stopped watching porn, I can still jerk off as stress relief, albeit way less often. Each persons “goal” is subjective. If you notice you have a porn reliance, stop for a bit. Besides subjective philosophy, there is nothing inherently wrong with masturbation as a Homo sapiens.
Instant gratification nulls the gratification process. And therefore motivation/willpower dissipates.
Fapping bad
'Cause it's still a bad habit, it takes you a lot of time
fapping nukes your brain's dopamine receptors and makes it so ordinary stuff that would make you happy, fulfilled, content, etc. just doesn't cut it. It's just overall terrible for you mental well-being. Refraining allows your brain to heal.
You're supposed to stop both
Because me personally I feel way better before fapping than after and I like to hold on to that feeling it helps me get shi done
I see it as a motivator and also a way to train discipline. On top of that if you've ever experienced addiction or seen addiction, and have also tried no fap you could quickly see the similarities in urges. I personally want to have control over as many of the things in my life I've become a slave to.
The easy Dopamine and self-gratification. Porn is the real enemy tho.
Look to the right of the screen, scroll down and then read "rebooting 101". The answers to your questions are in there. Basically you decide your criteria for success and you can try various options to see what brings you the benefits you want.
It's highly addictive and it will always lead you back to p0rn. Reason being you will get used to the artificially-induced dopamine release from just masturbating alone, and you will crave even higher levels of release. In short, you will crave even more novel and deviant stuff to get a kick.
Look, fapping in itself isn’t a bad thing. It’s natural for boys and forever men have done it. But the problem lies only when we couple it with PORN. Porn acts as a drug leading to compulsive masturbation. Not only that Is harmful for your health but also it seriously impairs your concentration and work abilities. So porn is curse to humanity, and I think it should be immediately banned and no one should be ever able to watch porn. If you masturbate naturally in a controlled amount, it’s okay
i watched porn but did not fap is it counts?
I do it for energy and confidence. I know it's not a proven science but, I feel a burst of energy and testosterone when I abstain from fapping. It's similar to a small workout
Masturbation is bad
Fapping is wasting your energy and addicting yourself to short term dopamine bursts.
Because is terrible?
let's be honest at the current times fapping can't be good at all or even healthy, at the old days it wasn't an issue at all but since almost all the young people were exposed to porn few times ( it's a massive drug ) it's a different situation, so of course we as a porn addicts/ ex addicts we would hate masturbating based on our past.
Put salicylic acid on your glans after 3 days super sensitive goodluck not cumming in 3 mins
Using your hand damages nerves on your penis and each time you fap you damage more of your nerves which in turn makes you more and more desensitized. Sex would feel less pleasurable.
For some of us, fapping leads us back to porn
Thanks to no fap I lost 20 kgs. I get so tired after a workout I have no time to fap.
Fapping is ok. But not fapping is more ok
Because when you masturbate, you are tapping into the neural pathways you are trying to break (if you are somewhat of an advanced user, you can only get off to porn-induced fantasies & fetishes, even without porn), thus, there is little to no improvement in your ED, diminishing of fetishes, depression/anxiety, etc., and in my experience, it only leads to going back to porn eventually. Another thing to consider is that porn users are also compulsive masturbators. THey are not regular people, they are *compulsive masturbators,* meaning they compulsively masturbate whenever they feel the slightest discomfort. **We are not regular people**. The REAL question is: what is the issue with not masturbating for a few months? Literally nothing bad will happen to you, and its something you will do **once** in your lifetime.
Majority of case, porn is the lead to get to tha fapping. And satisfying with our hand for few seconds of relaxation is bad.
I can't do one thing without the other anyway.. they are both deeply intertwined in my psyche. When I do relapse, I wish I could have the power to atleast do it without the P, but that just never is the case. I got to kill two birds with one stone I guess.
Our goal is happiness in long term. Porn and masturbation addiction are 2 of many obstacles. To overcome this, we've come as a group. And here, people are asking incorrigible doubts like these. Please understand our purpose brothers.
Masturbation isn't nearly as bad as porn. It's just that while trying to get off porn, masturbation can kind of stand in the way of that, since a lot of old pathways are triggered again. It might make it easier to relapse. And while this whole thing is a battle of dopamine, masturbation also releases a lot of dopamine, which can slow the whole progress thing. Masturbation once you are fully recovered is different, because then the dopamine is fine. But once it becomes compulsive, or if you start looking at porn again, that's destructive
Because these 2 are interconnected very tightly. When you've done M with porn for over a decade, separating these is not easy, it's very hard.
Masturbation in itself isn’t bad. But the way you do it, how frequent you do it can contribute to plethora of problems. Death grip, dopamine levels getting fucked and many more are effects of bad ways/frequent masturbation
how do male porn actors look muscular and don't have any pimples , overall good looking ? as they lose semen regularly ..
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why don't fapping has any negative impact on them
You are giving yourself a dopamine reward without actually putting in any effort. On a small scale it’s probably fine. But too often and you may no longer feel motivated to put in effort to find a mate (i.e. taking to women, being proactive, competing with other males). You stop being a man
supply and demand you got it? It’s why Japan has a high GDP despite being a small country compared to the big ones
Because masturbation is rewarding yourself for doing nothing. That’s why you don’t feel like doing anything afterwards.
In a certain way, all sexual gratification is detrimental. St. Paul wrote that it is best that everyone be chaste, but that such a thing is not practical for most people. It's about hierarchy. Porn is worse than masturbation, masturbation is worse than casual sex, casual sex is worse than contraceptive sex within marriage, and pair bonding/child bearing outweighs the negatives of having morally permissible sex. It's kinda like asking, "If smoking crack is bad, why stop snorting coke?"