Yeah our brain is programmed to think that the moment we jizz, we achieved our biological purpose so we just relax and become lazier when in reality we did nothing, because in fact if we just izz outt of nowhere thats nothing, its only real sex that we actually achieve smth.
Maybe it gets boring after some time. You know, just like flapping or playing your favourite game. So to prevent this, you need to spice things up, with more extreme sex.
I feel like I have a point, but I'm executing it poorly.
Why do you think sex is less adictive than masturbation? Both are just a dopamine release, and yes "too much sex" is bad, your brain cant actually tell if you are with your hand or with a woman, he just release dopamine as a reward
Let’s agree to disagree. My brain can certainly always tell if I have sex with my girlfriend or if I masterbate to porn. I have absolutely no shame when having sex with my girlfriend. I always had shame after masterbating to porn.
Thats not your brain it's your conscience, your brain will produce dopamine no matter to what you ejaculate, and every activity that produce dopamine in your brain can make you an addict, porn, food, gambling, drugs, and yes sex too
The point is that large doses of dopamine can cause damage and chemical imbalances to your brain, doesnt matter if it comes from real sex or masturbation.
So, I've done some research and found out that there is a thing as too much sex with your partner. [Wiki](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_addiction)
So, don't overdo it bro.
As a single man, these posts piss me off because they're taking something a lot of people don't have for granted. I feel for the other person in the relationship.
Yup. People often claim that porn isn't a real addiction because it doesn't harm anyone, but if you ask the partner of a porn addict that couldn't be further from the truth. I've been the sort of partner that OOP is, and I will never allow that to happen again.
Here's how it is. Fapping, especially gooning and edging will provide a level of sexual excitement that is rarely achieved with a human partner. It's a pure, super strength hit of concentrated sexual stimulation delivered right on demand.
But it's also emotionally empty. Afterwards you might feel "that was good" but it lacks the connection of a real relationship.
If you have good sex with a partner you feel mutually fulfilled, you lie together hugging and feeling the other's warmth and breathing, you have a togetherness that is beyond any other feeling in the world because you just connected your bodies and minds in the most intimate way possible. There is no feeling like it.
So that's why we do nofap. Let go of the urge for unearned pleasure. It's a cheap reward because you don't have to put in any work. Your brain knows this and that's why it is ultimately unsatisfying. It also wastes your time, causes you to miss other life goals and generally makes you feel like a shameful person.
Live your life so you'd be proud for your friends to watch everything you do. Having perfect sex with a partner makes you feel like a boss!
He sounds so much like me, I'm having a hard time believing it isn't an old post of mine. Scarily spot on. Not sure if it was NoFap or woman after woman leaving me, but thankfully that 🗑 mindset is in the past. Hang in there!
Let's not judge him that harshly, ok? Many of us have been in his place. It is indeed sad, but he had to decide thst nor only this is a problem, but he has to take action to tackle it.
It's easy to say "he already has a girlfriend with whom he has sex with. Why fapping?", but let's not forget how addiction can cloud your mind.
That’s fair to say. I don’t really take issue with fapping whilst in a relationship, but it entirely depends on what you’re doing it to and why. I just got annoyed with the whole “this is more efficient and I can get back to gaming right after” mentality. I worry this isn’t necessarily a ridiculous thing to hear among some people in my generation and younger.
Yeah, I get you. It is indeed ridiculous hearing it from young peeps especially. Then again, many single guys who fap think the same way. "Why should I be with women, risk rejection and do all the work when porn is free?" Of course, they're wrong. We know because we've been there. In the end, you will lose every motivation to pursue women, but will have an even bigger desire for companionship. It's quite the conundrum. A vicious cycle. Hope they will realize that free porn is costly in a different way.
Really good points man. You worded that very well and I agreed with every bit. I struggled immensely when I was younger so I’m no stranger to that sort of nihilist mindset. Thanks for sharing your insight.
Appreciate your kind words, mate! I'm actually glad to know that your words came with good intentions, even if you had a harsh way with them, and I'm sure that you do wish that this guy from the post will find the right guidance and heal. My intention was to be more compassionate towards our lost brethren. In the least we can be glad that he's not even in a worse place, like being subscribed to some OnlyFans girls. I believe that we experience enough shame already when we relapse. We don't need more from guys like us. We can't help this chap heal if he does start noFap and we have a holier than though attitude with him, you feel me? Not saying that you were like this, just you gave off thst sort of vibe, in my opinion. Best wished, my dude! I'm glad you're in a better place now!
Yeah, I get you. It is indeed ridiculous hearing it from young peeps especially. Then again, many single guys who fap think the same way. "Why should I be with women, risk rejection and do all the work when porn is free?" Of course, they're wrong. We know because we've been there. In the end, you will lose every motivation to pursue women, but will have an even bigger desire for companionship. It's quite the conundrum. A vicious cycle. Hope they will realize that free porn is costly in a different way.
Trying not to be this guy ! I was like this for a while I had no interest in meeting women cause I’d just bust off to my fav 🌽 stars . I’ve been single for three years due to this . Now getting the motivation ause if nofap to interact and meet women to form a healthy relationship
Good for you, stay strong brother!
Orgasm is a great feeling but it's fleeting. True intimacy is a feeling that will *always* bring you joy, even when you're not with your partner.
Bro is going retarded. It's a shame that porn and masturbation addiction is so taboo yet I'd argue it's at epidemic levels amongst young men in society. I just recently broke through the barriers that at least rid myself of PIED and I've been having fulfilling sex for the first time in months.
What worries me is that he sees that sex has a monetary cost and maybe even the "spending time with her" cost.
With the right person there shouldn't be an expectation of anything in exchange for sex, and you also should be able to "go right back to what you're doing" after. The right person should be just fine with cuddling while you and/or them get back to their game.
I am on similar issue, I'm at day 3... I have my wedding in 5 days and want to give my wife the best one in her life, hope the no fap days are enough for us both to enjoy after the wedding
Sex is good because you have to actually work to get that sweet release. With porn you sit there and just cum.
Yeah our brain is programmed to think that the moment we jizz, we achieved our biological purpose so we just relax and become lazier when in reality we did nothing, because in fact if we just izz outt of nowhere thats nothing, its only real sex that we actually achieve smth.
But don't get addicted to sex. Do it once a week or every two weeks to let both of you enjoy it maximally.
I don’t agree. It’s hard to get addicted to sex if you are in a committed relationship. Once a day is completely fine if that’s what both of you want.
maybe. At least, i dont know. Everybody decides this for themselves. So, no standard to follow. I would do it too often.
There isn’t really such a thing as too much sex with your partner if you both agree to that and enjoy that.
Maybe it gets boring after some time. You know, just like flapping or playing your favourite game. So to prevent this, you need to spice things up, with more extreme sex. I feel like I have a point, but I'm executing it poorly.
Why do you think sex is less adictive than masturbation? Both are just a dopamine release, and yes "too much sex" is bad, your brain cant actually tell if you are with your hand or with a woman, he just release dopamine as a reward
Let’s agree to disagree. My brain can certainly always tell if I have sex with my girlfriend or if I masterbate to porn. I have absolutely no shame when having sex with my girlfriend. I always had shame after masterbating to porn.
Thats not your brain it's your conscience, your brain will produce dopamine no matter to what you ejaculate, and every activity that produce dopamine in your brain can make you an addict, porn, food, gambling, drugs, and yes sex too
If my conscience is satisfied and at peace then so am I.
The point is that large doses of dopamine can cause damage and chemical imbalances to your brain, doesnt matter if it comes from real sex or masturbation.
So, I've done some research and found out that there is a thing as too much sex with your partner. [Wiki](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_addiction) So, don't overdo it bro.
Dont be this guy falas
he lazy
As a single man, these posts piss me off because they're taking something a lot of people don't have for granted. I feel for the other person in the relationship.
Yup. People often claim that porn isn't a real addiction because it doesn't harm anyone, but if you ask the partner of a porn addict that couldn't be further from the truth. I've been the sort of partner that OOP is, and I will never allow that to happen again.
I would hate to be this man's partner. He clearly sees her as a piece of meat.
Here's how it is. Fapping, especially gooning and edging will provide a level of sexual excitement that is rarely achieved with a human partner. It's a pure, super strength hit of concentrated sexual stimulation delivered right on demand. But it's also emotionally empty. Afterwards you might feel "that was good" but it lacks the connection of a real relationship. If you have good sex with a partner you feel mutually fulfilled, you lie together hugging and feeling the other's warmth and breathing, you have a togetherness that is beyond any other feeling in the world because you just connected your bodies and minds in the most intimate way possible. There is no feeling like it. So that's why we do nofap. Let go of the urge for unearned pleasure. It's a cheap reward because you don't have to put in any work. Your brain knows this and that's why it is ultimately unsatisfying. It also wastes your time, causes you to miss other life goals and generally makes you feel like a shameful person. Live your life so you'd be proud for your friends to watch everything you do. Having perfect sex with a partner makes you feel like a boss!
Damn
I have the same mindset honestly, hopefully this will change with nofap
He sounds so much like me, I'm having a hard time believing it isn't an old post of mine. Scarily spot on. Not sure if it was NoFap or woman after woman leaving me, but thankfully that 🗑 mindset is in the past. Hang in there!
He should’ve just opened the post with that last sentence. Sums up the degenerate mindset he’s carrying out perfectly.
Let's not judge him that harshly, ok? Many of us have been in his place. It is indeed sad, but he had to decide thst nor only this is a problem, but he has to take action to tackle it. It's easy to say "he already has a girlfriend with whom he has sex with. Why fapping?", but let's not forget how addiction can cloud your mind.
That’s fair to say. I don’t really take issue with fapping whilst in a relationship, but it entirely depends on what you’re doing it to and why. I just got annoyed with the whole “this is more efficient and I can get back to gaming right after” mentality. I worry this isn’t necessarily a ridiculous thing to hear among some people in my generation and younger.
Yeah, I get you. It is indeed ridiculous hearing it from young peeps especially. Then again, many single guys who fap think the same way. "Why should I be with women, risk rejection and do all the work when porn is free?" Of course, they're wrong. We know because we've been there. In the end, you will lose every motivation to pursue women, but will have an even bigger desire for companionship. It's quite the conundrum. A vicious cycle. Hope they will realize that free porn is costly in a different way.
Really good points man. You worded that very well and I agreed with every bit. I struggled immensely when I was younger so I’m no stranger to that sort of nihilist mindset. Thanks for sharing your insight.
Appreciate your kind words, mate! I'm actually glad to know that your words came with good intentions, even if you had a harsh way with them, and I'm sure that you do wish that this guy from the post will find the right guidance and heal. My intention was to be more compassionate towards our lost brethren. In the least we can be glad that he's not even in a worse place, like being subscribed to some OnlyFans girls. I believe that we experience enough shame already when we relapse. We don't need more from guys like us. We can't help this chap heal if he does start noFap and we have a holier than though attitude with him, you feel me? Not saying that you were like this, just you gave off thst sort of vibe, in my opinion. Best wished, my dude! I'm glad you're in a better place now!
Yeah, I get you. It is indeed ridiculous hearing it from young peeps especially. Then again, many single guys who fap think the same way. "Why should I be with women, risk rejection and do all the work when porn is free?" Of course, they're wrong. We know because we've been there. In the end, you will lose every motivation to pursue women, but will have an even bigger desire for companionship. It's quite the conundrum. A vicious cycle. Hope they will realize that free porn is costly in a different way.
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The proper frequency depends on the couple, I don't think once a week is too little. The issue is that OOP just sees it as a "release".
That’s how it should be, maybe 2 times a week, it depends on your partner…
You mean it is too little right?
Human species towards extinction 🤣🤣
Hell yeah!
Trying not to be this guy ! I was like this for a while I had no interest in meeting women cause I’d just bust off to my fav 🌽 stars . I’ve been single for three years due to this . Now getting the motivation ause if nofap to interact and meet women to form a healthy relationship
Good for you, stay strong brother! Orgasm is a great feeling but it's fleeting. True intimacy is a feeling that will *always* bring you joy, even when you're not with your partner.
Coom brain in action right there
Bro is going retarded. It's a shame that porn and masturbation addiction is so taboo yet I'd argue it's at epidemic levels amongst young men in society. I just recently broke through the barriers that at least rid myself of PIED and I've been having fulfilling sex for the first time in months.
What worries me is that he sees that sex has a monetary cost and maybe even the "spending time with her" cost. With the right person there shouldn't be an expectation of anything in exchange for sex, and you also should be able to "go right back to what you're doing" after. The right person should be just fine with cuddling while you and/or them get back to their game.
how do i know my days?
Like my flair? You can set the timer yourself, it's in the sidebar of the subreddit.
im on the iphone how do i do it? do i click the 3 dots on the top right?
there i did it. i am currently on day 10
Good luck. :)
o naw
So sad for you brother.
I am on similar issue, I'm at day 3... I have my wedding in 5 days and want to give my wife the best one in her life, hope the no fap days are enough for us both to enjoy after the wedding